1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,760 Good evening, everybody. My name is Bill Knox, and I am an alcoholic. 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:12,160 And I'd like to first thank Karen for allowing me the opportunity to share my experience, strength and hope with you this evening. 3 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:17,800 And I also want to thank my sponsor, James Cole, who is coming up on a year. 4 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:22,640 And I'm very proud to tell you what it was like, what happened and what it's like today. 5 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:28,720 We start out by saying I love Alcoholics Anonymous. Alcoholics Anonymous has truly transformed my life. 6 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:33,600 You know, I came from a very dark place in my life. You know, I'm still a liar cheating a beat. 7 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:40,840 Let me just get that out the way right now. I mean, I'm dressed up tonight, but I never want to forget where I came from or how it started. 8 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,520 You know, I came from two good parents that were married 10 years. 9 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:49,920 They had an OK marriage for the first 10 years, and then it got a little dicey. 10 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:57,200 They were both very young, 19 years old when they had me. I was actually born in Mexico City because my mother and father had me out of wedlock. 11 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:07,240 Now, that doesn't make me an alcoholic, but I spent the first three years of my life in Mexico City and my mother's father at that time was running a newspaper down there. 12 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:14,800 And that was where she could afford to raise me for a few years until her and my dad ultimately did tie the knot. 13 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:22,760 I grew up in Inglewood, California. I attended St. Bernard High School and I became a pretty good ballplayer, played basketball. 14 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:31,560 I was a scholarship athlete, ended up going to St. Mary's College, and my drinking probably took off graduation night from high school. 15 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:36,120 My mother lived off of Hardy and La Brea, right just north of Century Boulevard. 16 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:43,280 I used to, you know, buy all my liquor at the liquor stores on Century and the surrounding areas and top my dope on Inglewood Avenue. 17 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:54,200 And, you know, I could totally identify with what Bruce said because my story is about alcohol, but I did a lot of drugs and I stole a lot of money to get those drugs. 18 00:01:54,200 --> 00:02:01,880 And I did whatever it took to get loaded because from the earliest time of my life, as Bruce had alluded to, I felt inadequate. 19 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,160 I never felt comfortable in my own skin. 20 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:15,960 You know, some guys wanted to be taller. I wanted to be shorter. I wanted to be slimmer. You know, I was a really good athlete. I was big, strong, agile, fast, but it seemed like the smaller guys were always getting all the girls. 21 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:29,120 And when it came to talking to girls, I mean, my tongue would be tied up like a knot, you know, I stuttered, I perspired when I was in front of them, my knees shook, and I wanted to be so like my dad. 22 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:44,360 You know, my dad was this tall, like black Omar Sharif looking guy, 6'6", you know, lean, wore impeccable suits, wore that great cologne, you know, you could smell that great flannel coming off his skin. 23 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:50,240 And he was, you know, when he walked, he just looked like a gazelle, you know, and I wanted to be like that guy. 24 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:56,400 You know, he played basketball just like me. He was a golfer, had the most beautiful golf swing you ever want to see. 25 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:04,560 And as long as I can recall, I just wanted to be like my dad, you know, and I tried to be like him. I tried to mimic him, but I could never be like him. 26 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:20,040 Now, ironically, his father was 5'10". You know, my dad's 6'6", but my grandfather was 5'10". Louisiana man, Pullman Porter, grew up in the deep south during the height of segregation, was born shortly after Emancipation Proclamation and had a third grade education. 27 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:28,680 Pet his grass, trimmed his hedges, worked around his house till he was 90 years old, drank ancient age and gin and vodka and chased him with Kool-Aid. 28 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:36,400 And I love spending the weekends with my grandfather because my grandfather did a lot of exciting things. He'd kill chickens. 29 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:47,360 Sorry, James raised his chickens, but my grandfather, I'm sorry, James, but he would, you know, kill these chickens, skin them and then we, you know, have them for dinner. 30 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:56,120 And, you know, and afterwards, you know, we'd sit under this tree. He lived on 61st and Burdon and he'd give me a sip of his drink. 31 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:08,040 And I just remember the first time I ingested that ancient age, it was, I can't remember if it was whiskey or what kind of liquor it was, but I just remember how much it burned going down. 32 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:19,160 It just burned going down my throat. And I remember just, you know, spitting it out and my eyes were watering and my nose was running and I was thinking to myself, how do people drink this stuff? 33 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:26,400 And, you know what, you know, I don't get it, you know, but I didn't want my grandfather or my dad, for that matter, to think I was weak. 34 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:33,600 So I continue to every time they offered me a little sip of something, I take that sip, you know, and they weren't forcing it down my throat. 35 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:43,920 But I wanted to be like them so bad, you know, I wanted to be like my cousin who drank. And one day my grandfather gave me some, I think it was some vodka and I took a couple of sips of that. 36 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:50,200 And all of a sudden something changed inside of me. All of a sudden my feet didn't seem so big. All of a sudden I wasn't stuttering. 37 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:56,440 Everything was clear. It was like what Bruce was saying, that hole closed up. Those hot lights went down and the cool lights went up. 38 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:02,360 And I found the magic elixir. I figured out what was wrong with me. Nobody had given me this stuff. 39 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:09,000 Now that I had this stuff, now I have the cure-all. I can talk to every girl I see with confidence. 40 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:16,400 I never had a problem on the court. I was a very gifted athlete, but that was like the only game I had as far as conversation. 41 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:25,000 And that liquor and those drugs just did it for me. And it started on recreation, you know, at my graduation party. 42 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:32,640 Somebody brought me some weed. I smoked that joint. I think they called it indica at that time or the chronic, you know. 43 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:41,000 And I just remember being so high and I couldn't dance. But that night I could do everything. I could pop lock. I could break dance. 44 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:49,360 You know, I could tango. I mean, I could do absolutely anything and everything that night because I had just felt totally uninhibited. 45 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:57,000 And this is what I had been missing my whole life. Now, I was raised Catholic. My father's mother was a Catholic woman. 46 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:03,440 Raised me at St. John Evangelist in Inglewood or no, St. John's on 60th and Crenshaw. 47 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:11,000 And, you know, I just remember going to church with her all the time and looking up at those stained glass windows and thinking to myself, 48 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:22,720 God, I feel very spiritual, you know, and I see Jesus carrying the cross and all those stained glass windows, biblical scenarios. 49 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:28,160 And I'm thinking to myself, I just feel I'm supposed to feel or how everybody else looks. 50 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:32,760 There was such great reverence in the in the church. And I just didn't feel that reverence. 51 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:40,960 You know, the thing that was going through my mind was this poet, this beautiful girl that was standing in front of me and my hormones just raging out of control. 52 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:47,240 And I just I had guilt and remorse because of it, because I'm thinking to myself, I shouldn't feel like this. 53 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,720 I shouldn't feel like like out of control like this. 54 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:58,760 And, you know, my grandmother would impart all these sayings, you know, on me and recite the Ten Commandments and, you know, Psalms 91. 55 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,840 You know, she'd have all these sayings that she would impart on me. 56 00:07:01,840 --> 00:07:07,040 And and she was a God fearing woman, you know, one of the most God free women I have ever known. 57 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:13,960 You know, she was a seamstress. So we would go to her house on the weekend and she would be in the back sewing. 58 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:20,680 She had that old Singer machine and with the pedal. And, you know, I was sneak and she would make these rum cakes. 59 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:27,320 And, you know, if you know anything about these Louisiana rum cakes, what they do is they just keep pouring alcohol all year after year. 60 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:32,600 They just sit. And, you know, I'm hungry all the time. I mean, you know, I want to eat all the time. 61 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:43,480 And she had this tin can canister up in the cupboard and I would have to sneak because, you know, you know, back in those days, you know, those those those that generation. 62 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,240 You couldn't turn their lights on too long because then you were running their bill up. 63 00:07:47,240 --> 00:08:01,360 And and then when you took a they'd have this big kettle of gumbo and you get one bowl of gumbo because there were seven or eight other family members that had to come over and share the gumbo. 64 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,320 And and it was like, you know, all you need is one boy. Don't be so greedy. 65 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:10,000 And I'm I'm hungry like all the time. I could eat I could eat a cow, you know. 66 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:17,200 And, you know, so I start sneaking those cookies up in the canister, you know, because, you know, I'm I'm a severe alcoholic. 67 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:24,360 You know, when we sit down to eat, I want mine, I want yours and I want everybody else's that they're leaving behind. 68 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:34,120 I just that's that's the way I'm a taker and I'll do anything to take, you know, and, you know, I'll smile in your face and I'll you know, I'll steal your wallet. 69 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:38,680 You know, if it means me getting my bottom line, which is getting high and getting low. 70 00:08:38,680 --> 00:08:43,200 And I live my life like that for so long. But I was a clean cut kid. 71 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:54,320 I oh, so anyway, my grandmother would be back there and she'd be she'd be she'd be, you know, wheeling that pedal. And as soon as that I'd hear that that that pedal go on. 72 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:59,160 I would make my way for the cookie jar because, see, when I opened that tin can up, she could hear me. 73 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:11,320 But when she had that that foot on her on that pedal, I could reach in there, get as many cookies as I wanted, and then go back in the room and just and just scarf and hoard that food. 74 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,800 And sometimes she'd catch me and I'd see that shoe flying around the corner. 75 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:20,320 It was like a boomerang and she'd hit me upside my head, you know, because she knew me, you know, but she loved me anyway. 76 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:26,120 She she she knew that I was, you know, you know, a lie and cheat and a thief. 77 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:32,000 But she she would tell me, she said, William, one day, you know, straighten up and fly right, you know, and I believe that. 78 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:41,040 But I didn't know when that was. Anyway, long story short, I I graduated from high school and I got a scholarship to St. Mary's College up in Northern California. 79 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:50,040 Where I played for the Gales, you know, I played Division one men's basketball at a very high level from 81 through 85. 80 00:09:50,040 --> 00:10:01,120 During that time, I was introduced to all those kids up in Contra Costa County near San Francisco, and they started turning me on to some of the best weed. 81 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:10,880 I got all that Humboldt County weed, all the best alcohol you can drink. And all the weed and the and the cocaine did was allowed me to drink longer. 82 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:16,880 But, you know, I started, you know, you know, because these kids are enamored by me because, you know, I'm an athlete. 83 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:22,000 I'm coming in and, you know, I'm one of these guys that's supposed to save the program and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 84 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:28,240 And and I had the best of intentions. I came in, I was in shape. I was ready to play, play against all the greats. 85 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:34,160 You know, John Stockton, Charles Barkley played against Magic Johnson over the over the summer. 86 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:40,320 You know, everybody but Michael Jordan, you know, so I've seen every type of basketball athlete imagine. 87 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:50,160 And, you know, I left L.A. very decorated athlete, all American, but came back as a highly disappointed son and athlete. 88 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:57,520 I remember my senior year, you know, just like crying because I just pissed away this grandiose career. 89 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:05,840 And I remember being at home in the summer and I ended up getting a phone call from a guy who asked me if I wanted to go play down in South America. 90 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:12,400 And I ended up playing in Buenos Aires, Argentina, and I played in Argentina for two years. 91 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:17,760 And it was the best time of my life. I got a chance to reinvigorate my career. 92 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,200 I continued to drink because they had some really good beer down there. 93 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:28,240 But I did not use any dope because I had heard that they arrested several guys who had been smoking pot doing cocaine. 94 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:32,400 So I managed to elude the law enforcement in South America. 95 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:38,160 And it kind of scared the crap out of me because, you know, all those guys were walking around downtown with AK-47s. 96 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:42,720 A little different modus operandi down there than it is here in the States. 97 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:48,880 You know, they don't play down there, but I continue to drink and I would drink myself into a drunken stupor every night. 98 00:11:48,880 --> 00:12:01,120 And that pitiful, incomprehensible demoralization that you feel because you've made you've had all this resolve and you've made all these promises to yourself. 99 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:07,280 And for whatever reason, you know, I could not stay so I could not. 100 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,400 My willpower was not enough, but I didn't know about you people. 101 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:17,280 I had no idea that you people existed back then, you know, and I remember walking by this newsstand. 102 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:31,520 And I saw the cover of Time magazine and there was this really, really great basketball player named Len Bias who had just signed this major contract with the Boston Celtics back in like 1985, 86. 103 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:37,360 And he signed a big contract with Rebate simultaneously for like seven million dollars. 104 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:44,000 And then there was a coffin in the corner of the magazine and the headline said Death of a Dream. 105 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:49,040 This guy had signed this contract and then the next day he obeyed on a big rock of cocaine. 106 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,560 You know, now you think that would have detoured me or scared me. 107 00:12:52,560 --> 00:12:53,360 It did. 108 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:58,240 It jolted me for a minute, you know, but I did not think that I was that severe. 109 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:02,480 First of all, I wouldn't sign a contract that big, so it never happened to me. 110 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:11,680 So I ended up I ended up finishing my career in Argentina, had a great career, averaged about 46 points a game, had an 87 point game down there. 111 00:13:11,680 --> 00:13:19,520 I mean, I was a pretty decent athlete at that time and I probably could have been a better athlete if I could have just stayed off the blues and the sauce. 112 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,320 But like I said, I didn't know about you people. 113 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,000 I didn't have a sponsor. 114 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:25,680 I didn't have an AA Big Brother. 115 00:13:25,680 --> 00:13:28,640 Well, as luck would have it, I did manage to learn the language. 116 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:32,480 I do speak Spanish, Castilian Spanish fluently. 117 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:41,120 And, you know, I had this idea, you know, when I came back to the States, you know, I could probably get myself a good job since I'm bilingual now, but I didn't know what I was going to do. 118 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:50,160 And, you know, it's interesting, you know, I so identify with Bruce's talk because my dad was in the mortgage business and he said, why don't you get in real estate? 119 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:54,720 You know, it's a great business, you know, it gives you the freedom and liberty to do what you want to do. 120 00:13:54,720 --> 00:14:06,240 It's a great business for athletes, you know, and I was like, yeah, you know, and I'm and I'm seeing all these guys driving Mercedes and BMWs and, you know, making all this money and dressing in Brooks Brothers suits. 121 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,080 And I'm like, yeah, that's who I'm going to be. 122 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,480 I'm going to be a real estate tycoon, you know. 123 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:16,000 And but I had one little caveat that kind of prevented me from success. 124 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:17,360 I want to get out of bed every day. 125 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,000 And when you're doing real estate, you got to get out of bed. 126 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,000 You see, I would take these jobs. 127 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,560 I'd stay on these jobs for a minute, these temp jobs. 128 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:31,160 And, you know, until they found me out, I get there late, leave early, take these long lunches and then they fire me. 129 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:32,360 I file for unemployment. 130 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:36,920 All my unemployment checks would go to, you know, to to booze and drugs. 131 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:43,200 And and that cycle just continued for 10 years after my basketball career in Argentina. 132 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:49,600 And I just remember getting to a point because I was now living in my mother's garage conversion in the back of her house. 133 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:58,920 And, you know, she came to me one day and she said, you know, baby, I hope I'm not coming to identify you in the morgue with a toe tack because that's where you go. 134 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:00,600 Because I was getting in fights now. 135 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,680 I was stealing more. 136 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:08,480 You know, I was in and out of, you know, houses of ill repute, if you know what I mean. 137 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:09,640 I just didn't care. 138 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:14,280 I let my parents go and I and I did not know what to do. 139 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:19,160 And my whole family, even my brother and sister, everybody's yelling at me, what's wrong with you? 140 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,960 You know, why can't you why can't you straighten up? 141 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,760 You were all you were this and that in high school, blah, blah, blah. 142 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,080 Look at you. You're a bum now. 143 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,400 And I absolutely felt like a bum. 144 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,320 And I got comfortable with being a bum. 145 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:38,240 I absolutely did, you know, because I didn't think a guy of my type was capable of putting together a productive day. 146 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:39,880 I just I just give it up. 147 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:44,520 I didn't know what to do because I always felt inadequate, always felt less than you. 148 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:49,080 Like Bruce said, I judged your outsides by my insides. 149 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:55,320 If you look like if you looked like you had it all together, it just made me feel less and less and less. 150 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:59,160 Even if you did, I didn't know that nothing is as it seems today. 151 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:00,640 You know, it's all perception. 152 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:01,680 I had no idea. 153 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:05,040 You know, that's that's I'm going to get to that short. 154 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:09,680 But I just had so many defects of character that I didn't know how to address. 155 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:10,680 So luck would happen. 156 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:14,920 I ended up taking a temporary job at First Nationwide Bank. 157 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,080 Yep. In near the airport. 158 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,680 And I was working for this guy by the name of Tim Krueger. 159 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,280 And I know Marty real well. 160 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:23,720 Me and Marty are like this. 161 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,160 Yeah, I've seen you think I've seen you around the group. 162 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,120 Yeah, no, no. 163 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,840 But anyway, I was working for Tim. 164 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,520 And again, I was getting to work late, even early. 165 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,360 And Tim's a successful loan officer. 166 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,040 He's doing these, you know, it's a top notch guy. 167 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:42,600 And, you know, I'm handling his files and he never got angry with me. 168 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:48,240 But one day he called me into his office and he says, he says, Hey, Bill, why don't you come talk to me for a second? 169 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:54,400 So I go in there and he says, you know, I know this, you know, you're getting to work, you know, like almost an hour late. 170 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,320 You're leaving early and, you know, you're handling my files. 171 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:58,920 And, you know, I have family to feed. 172 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:04,040 And, you know, it's like, I don't want to let you go before I give you a chance to explain yourself. 173 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,960 And I just said, you know, I don't know what made me open up to this guy. 174 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,320 I had no idea what made me open up to this guy. 175 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:15,560 And I said, Tim, he said, wait, he says, before you go on, he says, you're Bill Knox that played at St. Bernard High School. 176 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:16,640 And I said, yeah. 177 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,080 He said, you were a pretty good ball player. 178 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:18,680 I remember you. 179 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:19,760 I said, oh, really? 180 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:21,000 You know, and he says, yeah. 181 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,960 He says, you were in all the headlines, all newspapers, blah, blah, blah. 182 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:31,520 I remember you, you know, and, you know, and now all of a sudden I'm thinking, oh, well, you know, I recognize the skills, you know. 183 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,360 And he goes, but you know what? 184 00:17:33,360 --> 00:17:35,560 That doesn't mean a jack to me. 185 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,640 That's just another tale of wasted youth. 186 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,480 And man, did he stick a pin in my balloon and just deflate me. 187 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,240 This guy knew exactly what to do. 188 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:44,280 He knew what was going on. 189 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:51,080 He smelled the alcohol on my breath, smelled the pot, you know, because I was out in the parking lot getting high, coming back, trying to work, you know. 190 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:59,880 And, you know, the mortgage business, you know, it's a lot of rules, a lot of regulations, a lot of numbers, a lot of compliance. 191 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:11,880 I mean, you have to be on your game every day because you're handling millions and millions and millions of people's assets, you know, and you have to be on point when you're there. 192 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:13,320 And I'm processing loans. 193 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,800 That means I'm the point of contact for his underwriters. 194 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:26,080 So when he gives me a loan, I have to, you know, go through all the findings of that loan and to determine whether or not his clients qualify for that loan. 195 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,880 And every single loan that I did looked like crap for him. 196 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:42,400 I mean, everything he sent me was, you know, because they give you a stacking order of all the things that you need, all your financials, all your assets, credit and the collateral, blah, blah, blah, blah, just this whole laundry list of stuff you need. 197 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,760 And I just could not answer the bill every day. 198 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:48,040 And he said, he goes, man, look, what's up with you? 199 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:49,120 You took this job. 200 00:18:49,120 --> 00:18:51,320 You managed to get a foot in the door. 201 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:52,960 So you have some intelligence. 202 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:53,680 What's going on? 203 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,280 You wouldn't have no drinking problems. 204 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,200 And I don't know what, why I opened up to this guy. 205 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,040 But I said, yeah, I do too. 206 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,000 Can't stay so no matter how hard I try. 207 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,280 And every day I wake up with the same result. 208 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,120 Today, I'm going to get myself together. 209 00:19:07,120 --> 00:19:14,720 By five o'clock, I'm totally inebriated, you know, that pitiful, incomprehensible demoralization, you know, just day in, day out. 210 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:24,600 I stole so much money from him, snuck so much money out, popped all her coins, did all kind of stuff that I'm so ashamed, you know, and this woman just loved me. 211 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:32,960 Had multiple surgeries, aneurysm, the elective surgeries, came back from the dead, I don't know how many times, this woman probably died 100 times. 212 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,760 And I kept trying to send her unintentionally to an early grave. 213 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:38,840 I was stressing her out, but she continued to love me. 214 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,640 She continues to love me to this day. 215 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,160 He said, you want to meet me somewhere? 216 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,160 I said, sure, I thought he was going to take me to dinner. 217 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:49,320 We ended up going to Emerson Middle School, Westchester. 218 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:50,280 I think that was the school. 219 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,240 And there I met my sponsor. 220 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:53,640 They had an AA basketball team. 221 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:57,240 The Pacific League had a basketball team. 222 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:58,880 There were certain rules for me. 223 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:00,640 They knew who I was. 224 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,120 They knew what my skills were as far as sports religion. 225 00:20:04,120 --> 00:20:04,800 They didn't care. 226 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,840 What they wanted me to learn how to do was be a team player. 227 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,200 It wasn't about winning. 228 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,520 It was about me being a team player. 229 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:15,920 It was about me learning how to be a worker among workers in a minimum place. 230 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,960 And it was hard for me because I had this gigantic ego. 231 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,320 We all know ego stands for edging down. 232 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,200 I had this huge ego, and it had to be deflated. 233 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:26,960 And I met my sponsor. 234 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,800 And he has remained my sponsor. 235 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:34,800 And my surviving date is July 22nd, 1996, which makes me over 26 years old. 236 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,160 And he has a sponsor. 237 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:37,480 And his sponsor is Tim Creek. 238 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,120 He was my Eskimo. 239 00:20:39,120 --> 00:20:41,440 His sponsor before Tim was Clancy's. 240 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:46,360 And I remember showing up at Clancy's office several times downtown. 241 00:20:46,360 --> 00:20:49,160 One time, the first time, I got there a minute late. 242 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:50,960 And he told me to get your ass out of here. 243 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:51,480 Excuse me. 244 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,680 I'm not supposed to trust you. 245 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,520 These are Clancy's words now. 246 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,200 And the next day, I was 15, 20 minutes early. 247 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,160 And he learned how to respect them. 248 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,240 And the first talk I ever had, it blew my mind. 249 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,240 He said, I drove all the way down there. 250 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:10,320 Because I'm thinking this man is God. 251 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,120 And he was a powerful man. 252 00:21:13,120 --> 00:21:14,480 I learned a lot from Clancy. 253 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:15,600 I went to his office. 254 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:16,760 And I sat down. 255 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,400 He goes, OK, I got some advice for you. 256 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,680 And I leaned in, listening, and I said, I left. 257 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,920 But today, I know what he meant by that. 258 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:25,420 I get it. 259 00:21:25,420 --> 00:21:28,920 See, Clancy talks about the difference between an alcoholic and somebody 260 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,400 who suffers from alcoholism. 261 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,280 And there is a fundamental difference. 262 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,000 See, somebody who suffers from-- thank you-- from alcoholism 263 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,040 can solve their problem by not drinking any. 264 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,640 Or somebody who has an alcohol problem can solve their problem 265 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,040 by not drinking alcohol. 266 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:47,800 Somebody who suffers from alcoholism as a living being, and that's what I had. 267 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,800 I'm so glad I know what's wrong with me today. 268 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,720 I have an allergy to the body and it's such another mind. 269 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:54,760 I've worked the steps. 270 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,640 I work the steps with my Sponcys. 271 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,880 But it's not just working the steps. 272 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,080 My sponsor informs me all the time. 273 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,360 We're working the steps every day. 274 00:22:03,360 --> 00:22:08,280 It's not just sitting down with a Sponcy and going through steps 1 through 12. 275 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:12,560 When you walk through these rooms, you're working steps 1 through 6 276 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:13,720 by your action. 277 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,000 You see, I had to get my way into good thinking as opposed 278 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,400 to thinking my way into good action. 279 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,200 Thinking my way into good action got me in a lot of trouble 280 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:23,840 because the devil's mind-- 281 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,520 I don't mind the devil's workshop. 282 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,280 Steps 7 through 12 are what kept me here. 283 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:33,240 Steps 1 and steps 11 to me are synonymous with each other 284 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,600 because I had to admit to my innermost self who I was 285 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:37,920 and what my problem was. 286 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,320 Step 11 gave me that conscious contact 287 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,720 that I needed to guide my understanding today. 288 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,680 And I could identify-- even though this is chapter 5 today, 289 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,800 I could identify with chapter 4, the agnostics and the atheists. 290 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,560 You see, I was raised as a Catholic. 291 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,040 But there was a point where I really doubted my religion 292 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,360 and my spirituality. 293 00:22:56,360 --> 00:22:58,560 And today, it's a matter of the heart. 294 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,880 I don't argue about what I believe. 295 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,520 I don't argue about politics. 296 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,920 I don't argue with people because it's 297 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,680 more important that I'm comfortable than right. 298 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,000 Right will get you killed. 299 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,840 I want to be comfortable. 300 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,400 Sometimes I let people just win arguments 301 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,640 for the sake of my emotional and mental health 302 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,280 because I don't need to know everything. 303 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:19,960 This is where the answers are for me. 304 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,800 In these rooms, these steps, these steps 305 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:23,880 are to the individual. 306 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,720 Those traditions are to the group. 307 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,600 The group must exist or I will die. 308 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,040 And then encompassing that are the concepts. 309 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,840 So my sponsors turned me on to the 36 concepts 310 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,440 because it all works like the link on a chain. 311 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,440 Everything has to be in unison. 312 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,680 And today, I'm still the same guy. 313 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,280 That fool is still in here. 314 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:45,560 He still lives in here. 315 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,480 I don't have to act on him anymore. 316 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:52,520 Today, I get to be a member of Alcoholics Anonymous. 317 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,000 I get to reach my hand out. 318 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,960 I'm not the message, but I am a messenger. 319 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,400 And my life is wonderful today. 320 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:00,560 I spent it with my mother. 321 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:01,640 I paid her back. 322 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,600 I've made restitution with her. 323 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,520 I've made a lot of living amends. 324 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,160 I have three beautiful sons that I've raised. 325 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:09,560 I've been active in their life. 326 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,560 They've never seen their dad loaded. 327 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:12,680 My cup runneth open. 328 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,960 And I have everyone in this room to thank as a result of that 329 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,640 because without you people, I never-- 330 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,480 my life would have taken a turn for the worse. 331 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,080 And I want to thank you for allowing 332 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,520 me to share my experience, strength, and hope with you. 333 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:27,360 [INTERPOSING VOICES]