1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,520 - Hi, I'm Linda, I'm an alcoholic. 2 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:02,400 - Hi, Linda. 3 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,240 - I forgot one thing, my water. 4 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:06,920 Always need my drink. 5 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,520 My sobriety date is June 2nd, 1999. 6 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:11,560 My sponsor's name is, what is my sponsor? 7 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:12,400 No, I'm just kidding. 8 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,000 My sponsor's name is Sharon C. 9 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:15,400 My home group is Pacifica Group. 10 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,480 Thank you, Ben, for inviting me to share tonight. 11 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,360 It's an honor and a privilege 12 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:21,080 to do anything for Alcoholics Anonymous. 13 00:00:21,080 --> 00:00:23,440 And I wanna thank our speaker, our 10-minute speaker, Nancy. 14 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:24,560 That was so wonderful. 15 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:25,560 I just loved her share. 16 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,000 And I felt the same way about my life and my family. 17 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,040 I grew up in Lancaster, that was my first resentment. 18 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,680 And if you're from Lancaster, I'm sorry. 19 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,720 You know, it was just really windy and hot 20 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:39,440 and really windy and cold and just really windy. 21 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,000 And there wasn't much to do except, you know, 22 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:42,760 drink and a little bit of crystal mud. 23 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,720 But I mean, come on, I mean, what else can you do? 24 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,520 So that was my life back then. 25 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,520 And my first drink was actually 26 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,320 with my Mexican-American family. 27 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,760 I have like, my mom was one of 13. 28 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,680 And so my aunts were four years older than me, 29 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:57,160 four and five years older than me. 30 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,040 So we would all just hang out. 31 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,480 So I had my first drink in the park with my chola aunts 32 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:02,520 and it was Budweiser. 33 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,440 And I just remember just drinking that 34 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,800 and just feeling so good and feeling like I fit in. 35 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,920 And three, I was 11 and a half. 36 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,600 And I had all this makeup, lipstick, hairspray. 37 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,000 I mean, eyeliner, the whole chola thing. 38 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:17,680 And I just, the Aquanet. 39 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:18,880 And I just loved it. 40 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:20,400 And I was not a smoker then, 41 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,280 but they encouraged me not to, 42 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:24,720 but they were fine with me drinking. 43 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:25,560 That's so funny. 44 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,120 So that was my first night drinking. 45 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,280 Drink one, then I drink another, 46 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:31,640 or then I drink another one. 47 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:32,680 So that was three. 48 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,360 And then these cholo guys came 49 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:35,440 and they're low rider car. 50 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,280 And then we jumped in the car with them. 51 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:38,520 And then they had more alcohol. 52 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,360 And I was so drunk that I was starting to throw up 53 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,600 half in the car and half out of the car as it was moving. 54 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,600 And then it splashed back in my hair 55 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,920 when I pulled my head in from outside. 56 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:50,200 And it was just so much fun. 57 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,560 Yeah, I was like, oh my God, this is so much fun. 58 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,520 There weren't a lot of consequences that night. 59 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,040 And if it continued to be that way, 60 00:01:58,040 --> 00:01:59,480 I would probably still be out there. 61 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:00,880 What's a little throw up in your hair? 62 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:01,720 I mean, really. 63 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,240 But what happened for me is I had that allergic reaction 64 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:06,800 that it talks about in the big book 65 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:08,080 and the obsession of the mind. 66 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,280 'Cause I couldn't wait to go out with them again. 67 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:11,480 I hadn't even finished that night. 68 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:12,480 And I asked my aunt Becky, 69 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:13,600 could I go out with you guys again? 70 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:14,440 And she said, yes. 71 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,200 And I always thought about that fun feeling 72 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:17,320 I had way down deep. 73 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,160 And it was so powerful. 74 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:20,200 I have never forgotten. 75 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:21,520 I'm 53 years old now. 76 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,600 And I, that was what, how many years ago? 77 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:24,560 40 something years ago? 78 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,520 I still remember it like it was yesterday. 79 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,920 What I wore, how I felt, who I was hanging out with. 80 00:02:28,920 --> 00:02:30,960 And all that stuff went down on my fourth step. 81 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:32,400 And so fast forward a little bit, 82 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:33,920 I had to go back up to Lancaster 83 00:02:33,920 --> 00:02:35,320 'cause that's where I lived. 84 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,080 I was in Orange County. 85 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,440 But when I went back to Lancaster, I just wanted to drink. 86 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:41,720 And so I started sneaking out 87 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,040 and hanging out with older friends and drinking. 88 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,360 Not a lot, just every weekend, you know? 89 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,160 'Cause it's hard to get alcohol when you're 12. 90 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,760 And I could tell already that my drinking had a hold of me. 91 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,320 That's how powerful alcoholism, it is the fatal malady 92 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:55,320 that was shared earlier. 93 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,800 It is serious as a heart attack. 94 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:58,880 But I didn't think so. 95 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:00,400 I just thought we were having fun. 96 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:01,800 I thought it was because of my age. 97 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,000 I thought it was my friends. 98 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:03,840 And you know what? 99 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:04,800 I was the one that was sneaking out. 100 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,800 Those good girls were not sneaking out. 101 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,040 So fast forward, I ran away for good, 102 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,880 finally, forever, never went back. 103 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:13,320 My stepdad was terrible. 104 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:14,840 Things were going on in that household 105 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:16,400 that never should have happened to a little girl. 106 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:17,760 So I was out of there. 107 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,000 And even when I did tell the truth, nobody believed me. 108 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:20,840 But you know what? 109 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:22,640 Drinking really helped put all those feelings down. 110 00:03:22,640 --> 00:03:24,920 All those terrible thoughts and memories. 111 00:03:24,920 --> 00:03:25,920 I just drank them all away. 112 00:03:25,920 --> 00:03:27,120 It was so powerful. 113 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:28,400 So I left, I'm hitchhiking. 114 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:29,240 This guy picks me up. 115 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:30,080 I jump in his car. 116 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,800 He's a local drug dealer, you know? 117 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,040 The outside business was really successful 118 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:36,520 'cause I was good at weighing and measuring. 119 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,080 But I should have been in high school. 120 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:39,320 So I dropped out of high school. 121 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,120 The only thing that put the brakes on my drinking 122 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:42,560 is that I got pregnant really young. 123 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,800 I was 15 and I had my son and I told the boyfriend, 124 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:46,760 we're having a baby. 125 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,040 And he's like, oh no, you're having a baby. 126 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:51,400 Like, what are we gonna do? 127 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:52,840 And he's like, what are you gonna do? 128 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:54,600 I mean, it was just a mess. 129 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,560 The stuff and the experiences that I came in here with, 130 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,640 it's just amazing how the 12 steps 131 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,000 can put our lives all back together again. 132 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,720 First, I had to burn it all to the ground 133 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:08,440 'cause I didn't know I was alcoholic all the way back then. 134 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,000 I had my son. 135 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,560 I promised him I was gonna be a good mom. 136 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:13,560 This breaks my heart. 137 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,120 And I have to just say it really fast 138 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,720 'cause I really wanted to be a good mom. 139 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:19,240 My mom was a good mom. 140 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:20,960 So I couldn't stop drinking. 141 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:22,880 I was back in the park drinking with some guys 142 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:24,160 two weeks after he was born. 143 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,720 And my mom would say, why do you drink so much? 144 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,560 And I'm like, I don't know, I'm just trying to have fun, mom. 145 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,840 Stressful being a single mom. 146 00:04:30,840 --> 00:04:31,680 I moved. 147 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,120 I moved all the way from Lancaster to Simi Valley 148 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:38,360 'cause it's just as windy in Simi Valley as it is. 149 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:39,480 I fit right in. 150 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,240 I found my people and started going to Chewy's. 151 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,800 I turned 21 and I was drinking and I was dancing 152 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,240 and I won $500 in a drinking, excuse me, 153 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,000 in a dance contest at Quiet Cannon. 154 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,120 And I don't know if you know where that is, 155 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,680 but I ended up there in Simi Valley to Quiet. 156 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,040 And I won $500. 157 00:04:58,040 --> 00:04:59,000 I was in a blackout. 158 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:00,600 I didn't know I won, but I still won. 159 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,400 So I was really proud of myself when I came to the next day. 160 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:04,920 So drinking wasn't so bad. 161 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,360 But then there was another time I went drinking 162 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,440 in the valley and it just, this guy like drugged me 163 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:10,600 and he took me away. 164 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:11,760 It was terrible. 165 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,200 My friends couldn't find me. 166 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:14,040 So what did I do? 167 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:14,960 I kept that all a secret. 168 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:16,440 Like when I came to the next day 169 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:17,840 and he actually released me. 170 00:05:17,840 --> 00:05:19,840 It was somewhere in the valley, I don't remember where. 171 00:05:19,840 --> 00:05:21,280 And I'm glad he knocked me out 172 00:05:21,280 --> 00:05:23,000 'cause I don't wanna remember everything. 173 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,160 But I shouldn't stop drinking then, but I didn't. 174 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,720 But when he released me and I got back to Simi Valley, 175 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:28,560 I closed the door. 176 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,200 The first thing I did was look all our bruises. 177 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,280 And then I thought, yeah, I could hide that with makeup. 178 00:05:32,280 --> 00:05:34,160 But then I needed a drink. 179 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,400 So I went straight to the refrigerator and got a drink. 180 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,360 I don't know if it was the wine in the fridge 181 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,460 or if it was the vodka in the freezer, 182 00:05:40,460 --> 00:05:41,820 but I did have a drink. 183 00:05:41,820 --> 00:05:45,280 I did not stop drinking for four more years after that. 184 00:05:45,280 --> 00:05:48,120 But what I decided to do instead was I got married. 185 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,040 So that doesn't stop me from drinking. 186 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,360 I thought I would be a good, settle down, be a good girl. 187 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,080 And like person that I married, I guess that's my husband. 188 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,600 The husband that I married was my coworker. 189 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,280 Cuckoo, this is a crazy story. 190 00:06:01,280 --> 00:06:02,560 And we were just roommates. 191 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:03,760 And then I don't know what happened. 192 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,000 All of a sudden we got married. 193 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,680 So surprise. 194 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,920 My mom was like, who are you gonna marry? 195 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:10,920 She had no idea like what was even happening. 196 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,280 And I remember walking down the aisle 197 00:06:13,280 --> 00:06:17,440 and nobody would let me drink before the wedding. 198 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:18,540 No one would let me drink. 199 00:06:18,540 --> 00:06:20,840 So I elegantly walked down the aisle. 200 00:06:20,840 --> 00:06:22,520 And I remember I looked down the aisle 201 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,200 and I saw the people on his side 202 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:25,960 and I saw the people on my side. 203 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:27,040 And I thought, I need a drink. 204 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:28,160 Like this is real. 205 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:29,620 Have you ever made a decision and thought, 206 00:06:29,620 --> 00:06:31,660 oh no, now I have to actually do this. 207 00:06:31,660 --> 00:06:34,960 Luckily there was a lot of alcohol. 208 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:36,840 So the whole thing went down and we drank. 209 00:06:36,840 --> 00:06:38,800 And then this is towards the end of my drinking. 210 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,200 What happened for me was like I just could not stop drinking. 211 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:42,040 Now I'm married. 212 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,080 I have my son and two of his sons 213 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:45,880 and a dog and a house and a car. 214 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,880 'Cause I thought having those wonderful family things 215 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,000 and having like a nice stable home 216 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,560 would make me be good or stop drinking. 217 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,340 I used to equate being good with not drinking. 218 00:06:56,340 --> 00:06:58,680 Like I learned in Alcoholics Anonymous, I'm not bad. 219 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,280 I was just really spiritually sick. 220 00:07:00,280 --> 00:07:02,840 I was so sick that I had to come to AA. 221 00:07:02,840 --> 00:07:06,280 And the end came because I could not stop drinking. 222 00:07:06,280 --> 00:07:08,300 I would fly to Las Vegas every Mother's Day 223 00:07:08,300 --> 00:07:09,560 and say my name was Sarah. 224 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,840 And then the last time I was hanging out with this pimp guy 225 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,360 with the hat and a feather and the chain and the fur coat, 226 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:15,460 like a real pimp. 227 00:07:15,460 --> 00:07:17,480 And I just remember he looked me in the eye 228 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,540 and he's like, Sarah, you sure you wanna do this? 229 00:07:19,540 --> 00:07:21,280 And I said, yes, I wanna party. 230 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:22,800 And I don't even know where my friends were. 231 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:23,640 They were gone. 232 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,080 Like the friends I flew to Vegas with. 233 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,480 And I got out of his car. 234 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,100 He went into this liquor store and I only got out of his car 235 00:07:31,100 --> 00:07:33,280 because at the time I was hearing voices. 236 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,000 And this voice said, Linda, get out of the car and run. 237 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,020 And I did, I actually did what it said. 238 00:07:38,020 --> 00:07:39,200 It was a great idea. 239 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,720 And it grabbed me by the collar or something. 240 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,680 I believe now that was divine intervention 241 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,460 or maybe my prayers from my grandma. 242 00:07:46,460 --> 00:07:49,400 She prayed like the rosary over us every day, it seemed like, 243 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:50,960 'cause we were all crazy at that time. 244 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,120 So I went running and that was the last time I drank. 245 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,440 The last time I drank and I'm so grateful. 246 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,200 When I look back, nobody was following me. 247 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:58,840 I was running across the street, 248 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:00,920 made it to my hotel, called that husband. 249 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:01,760 All my money was gone 250 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:03,440 and actually my friends were gone as well. 251 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,480 And he flew me home and I flew home in and out of a blackout. 252 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,720 And back then in '99, 253 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,320 you could still meet your family at the gate. 254 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,560 He wanted to know what happened 255 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,040 and what happened to my friends. 256 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,680 And I told him, you know, they stole my money 257 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,680 and they left me and I didn't tell him about the pimp. 258 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,200 And so I was gonna just take me to my car 259 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:24,740 and I was just gonna crash my car 260 00:08:24,740 --> 00:08:26,240 into the pillar on the freeway. 261 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,880 'Cause I had been searching for an answer for so long 262 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:31,420 about the way that I felt. 263 00:08:31,420 --> 00:08:34,200 And I'd gone to support groups, not AA. 264 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:35,920 I've gone to like therapy. 265 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:37,640 I've gone to psychoanalyst. 266 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,800 I've gone to, they used to call it, 267 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,080 some people call it est 268 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,120 and some people call it life spring. 269 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,360 I went there and spent thousands of dollars 270 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:46,780 to figure out what was wrong with me. 271 00:08:46,780 --> 00:08:48,840 And this one guy, normal guy there is like, 272 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:49,800 I don't know why you're here. 273 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,200 You don't belong here either. 274 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:52,360 And I said, are you sure? 275 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,340 Like nobody could, and I was such a liar. 276 00:08:54,340 --> 00:08:56,360 So that weekend I had been polluted 277 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,040 with alcohol up to my eyeballs. 278 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,120 Like seriously, like I was sweating it. 279 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,240 I had the shakes. 280 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:02,320 I was bloated. 281 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,080 I was like jaundiced color. 282 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,440 I was sunburned 'cause I passed out of the hard rock 283 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,840 hood tub pool on my armpit and my mouth like this. 284 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,680 And I thought, I'm just gonna kill myself. 285 00:09:11,680 --> 00:09:12,520 I'm just gonna crap. 286 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,120 And I did it 'cause when I looked in the rear view mirror, 287 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:16,920 my husband at the time was following me. 288 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,040 And I'm forever grateful for that man 289 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,320 that was following me because that was the end. 290 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,840 Like I was either gonna get help or kill myself 291 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:26,120 and call this lady. 292 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,900 I called this lady 'cause we were in a class 293 00:09:28,900 --> 00:09:30,160 and we had gone to a bar, 294 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:31,600 but then we'd also gone to a play 295 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,760 and she didn't drink at both places. 296 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,920 The first time I had my eye on her, 297 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:37,840 'cause that's weird that you're here with us 298 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,920 and you don't even drink, you drink sparkling water? 299 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:41,760 What? 300 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,920 And then we went to a play and I said, let's get a beer. 301 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:45,980 And she said, no, I don't drink. 302 00:09:45,980 --> 00:09:48,200 I have three years of sobriety. 303 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,400 I'm an A&A and I call my sponsor every day. 304 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,400 And I go to a meeting at 7 a.m. in Burbank every day. 305 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,400 And I go to work right after that. 306 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,560 And then she told me she stays there the whole eight hours. 307 00:09:59,560 --> 00:10:01,960 And I thought, good God, how? 308 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:03,960 Like, what, you stay there all? 309 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:05,520 The whole day, I was so impressed. 310 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,960 And then she also was really shiny. 311 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:09,920 And I thought in my mind, 312 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,680 oh, she must take a shower every day. 313 00:10:12,680 --> 00:10:15,320 That's how she's so shiny. 314 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:16,560 So I called her. 315 00:10:16,560 --> 00:10:18,400 She's the only person I knew that didn't drink. 316 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,300 And I told her about the pimp story and all that. 317 00:10:20,300 --> 00:10:22,540 And she said, this is great. 318 00:10:22,540 --> 00:10:25,400 I was just praying for a baby today. 319 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,100 And when I got out of my meeting and I said, 320 00:10:28,100 --> 00:10:29,940 well, you know, I wouldn't do that 321 00:10:29,940 --> 00:10:32,060 'cause being a single mom is really hard. 322 00:10:32,060 --> 00:10:35,200 So not a good idea. 323 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:39,600 And she said, do I think I cannot drink today? 324 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:40,920 Do you think you cannot drink today? 325 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,240 And I said, yes, because I don't have to drink every day. 326 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,060 Just want to drink every day, but I don't have to. 327 00:10:45,060 --> 00:10:46,320 But for you, I won't. 328 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:47,620 She said, oh, great. 329 00:10:47,620 --> 00:10:49,920 When can you go to a meeting at 8 a.m.? 330 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:51,520 And I remember I hemmed and hawed and I said, 331 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,280 well, you know, maybe when I'm feeling better 332 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,220 and I'm not so sunburned or whatever, 333 00:10:56,220 --> 00:10:57,120 I don't even know what I said. 334 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,280 I think I just said maybe later, like in a few days. 335 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:01,700 And she's like, no, do you think you can go 336 00:11:01,700 --> 00:11:02,720 to a meeting right away? 337 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,640 So I lied and I said yes. 338 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,800 And I actually did go to AA two days later. 339 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,280 And she asked me to call her every day. 340 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,680 And she asked me to be willing not to drink. 341 00:11:10,680 --> 00:11:12,480 Had no idea what I was stepping into. 342 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,740 I went to Alcoholics Anonymous in Westlake Village 343 00:11:14,740 --> 00:11:17,360 or it was Agoura Hills, right on that borderline 344 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,040 off the 101 freeway. 345 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:20,400 It was at a bank. 346 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,520 There were men lined up and women lined up outside. 347 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,280 They were drinking coffee and smoking cigarettes. 348 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:26,600 It was the summer, it was June. 349 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:27,880 It was hot. 350 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:29,880 And I'd come walking up, not crying. 351 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:31,500 I don't know why they thought I was crying. 352 00:11:31,500 --> 00:11:32,740 I was just sweating. 353 00:11:32,740 --> 00:11:35,000 I was so sweaty. 354 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,120 You know, like when you're really like, 355 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,520 and you walk in and I was like bloated and sweaty. 356 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,060 Okay, I was crying, but in the car, 357 00:11:42,060 --> 00:11:43,720 but not when I walked out. 358 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,520 And they said, are you new? 359 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:46,880 And I said, no. 360 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,240 I just thought they meant new to that area, 361 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:50,080 not the meeting. 362 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:50,900 I didn't know. 363 00:11:50,900 --> 00:11:52,440 And they were so kind. 364 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,240 The power, they talk about it in those steps. 365 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,240 Like the power in our rooms, 366 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,020 the power greater than ourselves in our room, 367 00:11:59,020 --> 00:12:00,280 expressing members. 368 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:01,780 Man, they really just saved me. 369 00:12:01,780 --> 00:12:03,320 They showed me unconditional love. 370 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:04,920 And when I said I'm Linda, I'm an alcoholic. 371 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:05,820 They all clapped. 372 00:12:05,820 --> 00:12:07,760 They're like, yeah, we knew you were new. 373 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,560 And I burst into tears. 374 00:12:09,560 --> 00:12:11,620 No one was clapping for me back then. 375 00:12:11,620 --> 00:12:13,720 You know, most people would like turn their back on me 376 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,400 and I don't blame them 'cause I was a mess. 377 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,360 I was 28 years old when I entered AA. 378 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,000 My kids were a little affected by my drinking. 379 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,840 My husband at the time never trusted me 380 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,840 'cause I wasn't a trustworthy girl. 381 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,600 I would say, I'm gonna go drinking for a little while. 382 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:29,940 Like I'll be back at 10. 383 00:12:29,940 --> 00:12:32,120 Then I would call him at like 11 and say, 384 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:33,240 I'll be back at 12. 385 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:34,880 And then I would call and it's one. 386 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,600 I'm like, okay, I'm gonna come home at two 387 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:38,440 when the bar closed. 388 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,940 And then I wouldn't come home till like Tuesday 389 00:12:40,940 --> 00:12:42,000 and I would go missing. 390 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:43,300 And he reported me missing. 391 00:12:43,300 --> 00:12:45,400 And I told him, now that's not gonna happen anymore 392 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,160 now that I'm an alcoholic synonymous. 393 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:48,000 He's like, what? 394 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,920 He just didn't even know what AA was either. 395 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:51,440 And I started going to women's meetings, 396 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,000 Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. 397 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:54,440 And I would go to a meeting on Sundays 398 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,880 and I would go to a meeting on Wednesday evenings. 399 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,960 And I met a kind woman there named Becca. 400 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:00,600 She got to be one of my closest friends. 401 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,680 I just talked to her the other, like Thursday. 402 00:13:02,680 --> 00:13:04,560 That's how long she's been my friend. 403 00:13:04,560 --> 00:13:06,880 Tamara took me through the 12 steps of Alcoholics Anonymous 404 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:07,880 that first year. 405 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:09,160 It was a rocky road. 406 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,080 I mean, I came so close to drinking 407 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:12,560 at least a couple of times. 408 00:13:12,560 --> 00:13:14,480 That one time, I don't remember if it was, 409 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:15,600 it must've been 60 days. 410 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,440 I climbed up to smell the vodka 411 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,200 just 'cause my mind where the illness is centered said, 412 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:24,320 you should sniff vodka to make sure that it smells like vodka 413 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:25,880 and I said, okay. 414 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,800 So I sniffed it and I wasn't prepared for the favors 415 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,000 to go up into my mind, into my head. 416 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,280 And then I remember holding it. 417 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:34,560 I thought, oh my gosh, 418 00:13:34,560 --> 00:13:36,400 this is when they say you should call someone. 419 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,800 And I put it back and I climbed down and I called 20 women. 420 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,720 And God said, okay, if no one answers, 421 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,280 after these 21 women, you call everyone, then you can drink. 422 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,180 And then I called the last woman. 423 00:13:48,180 --> 00:13:49,460 God didn't really say that. 424 00:13:49,460 --> 00:13:50,560 That was my illness. 425 00:13:50,560 --> 00:13:51,600 That's a joke anyway. 426 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,680 But anyway, so I called her and she answered the phone. 427 00:13:54,680 --> 00:13:55,840 It was a workday. 428 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,040 She was a teacher. 429 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,080 She hadn't started school yet. 430 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:00,520 That's why she answered. 431 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:01,680 This is before cell phones. 432 00:14:01,680 --> 00:14:04,080 And we had the ones that were on the wall. 433 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,640 Anyway, I told her, I said, I just sniffed vodka. 434 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,480 And she's like, oh, no, no, no, no. 435 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,580 We don't sniff vodka in AA. 436 00:14:12,580 --> 00:14:13,640 No, we don't do that. 437 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,080 I'm like, I know that we don't drink, 438 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:16,080 but we don't sniff either. 439 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:16,920 She's like, nope. 440 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:18,960 And she's like, don't you have some kids? 441 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:19,620 Where are they? 442 00:14:19,620 --> 00:14:20,840 I'm like, oh, the kids. 443 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,320 And I was like a squirrel. 444 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:23,960 So I had to go-- 445 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:24,840 I don't know where the kids were, 446 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,460 but I had to go get them from somewhere. 447 00:14:26,460 --> 00:14:28,120 And I got to stay sober that day. 448 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,400 And I just remember my husband was going to throw me out. 449 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,400 Now it's like 90 days and all my belongings 450 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,720 were all in the front yard and on the porch. 451 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,080 Even my chonies were out there. 452 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:39,120 Everything was out there. 453 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,560 He was throwing me out because he read my first step. 454 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,640 So if you're writing, hide your stuff. 455 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,960 And so he saw all the stuff about the pimp. 456 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:47,160 I wasn't even doing anything. 457 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:48,200 I just rode in a car. 458 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,480 But anyway, see how I was still trying to defend myself 459 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,000 and throwing me out. 460 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:53,000 And I said, wait, wait, wait. 461 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:53,600 The kids were crying. 462 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:54,200 The dog was barking. 463 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:55,600 My husband was yelling, look at him. 464 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:56,600 Look what I found. 465 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,040 And I said, I can't do anything until I call the sponsor lady. 466 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:00,240 Let me go upstairs and call her. 467 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:01,280 And he's like, who's that? 468 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:02,720 And I go, you haven't met her yet. 469 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:04,440 And so I ran upstairs and I called Tamara. 470 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,100 I'm like, Tamara, stuff is going down. 471 00:15:06,100 --> 00:15:06,940 You got to help me. 472 00:15:06,940 --> 00:15:08,560 And she's like, what's happening? 473 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:09,200 Did you drink? 474 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:09,860 And I said, no. 475 00:15:09,860 --> 00:15:11,520 She's like, oh, thank god. 476 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,280 She was always so happy when I behaved sometimes. 477 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,920 And she only had three years of sobriety. 478 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:18,320 She's like, thank god. 479 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:19,600 So my husband's kicking me out. 480 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:20,600 She's like, oh, no. 481 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:21,760 What did you do? 482 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,640 And I said, he read my first steps. 483 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,520 She's like, I told you to hide it. 484 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:26,600 She's so funny. 485 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,840 Anyway, she's like, do you have anywhere to go? 486 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:29,800 Do you have any money? 487 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:30,380 Do you have any friends? 488 00:15:30,380 --> 00:15:31,240 No, no, no. 489 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:32,800 OK, this is what you're going to do. 490 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,180 You're going to tell him that you're staying. 491 00:15:34,180 --> 00:15:36,040 So go downstairs and just tell him that you'll be staying. 492 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:37,000 I said, OK, I can do that. 493 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:37,360 Bye. 494 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:38,280 I'll call you back if I need to. 495 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:38,780 OK, bye. 496 00:15:38,780 --> 00:15:39,280 We hung up. 497 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:40,000 I went downstairs. 498 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,680 My husband's face is in the refrigerator 499 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:42,480 because he's hungry. 500 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:47,600 And I said, well, I talked to Tamara, and she says I'll be staying, and he's like, what? 501 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,340 And the kids were like, yay. 502 00:15:49,340 --> 00:15:52,840 And he slammed the refrigerator, and he's like, what's for dinner? 503 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,360 So I got to stay. 504 00:15:55,360 --> 00:16:00,120 I got to stay for a while, because I really had nowhere to go. 505 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,440 And I got through those 12 steps. 506 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:03,520 I started going to meetings. 507 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,680 I would report-- I don't know if you even know this, 508 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:09,920 but at women's meetings, we report you when you're not being nice to us. 509 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:14,400 And then the women would say, you could stay sober, in spite of him. 510 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:15,480 I'm like, that's true. 511 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:19,000 And then they would say things like, you don't have to drink over that, 512 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,800 or this one lady. 513 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,920 All the women had nice things to say. 514 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:29,720 It's not nice to stab them if you don't stab them, and we don't do that today. 515 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:34,440 And then this other woman's like, if you need help, if you want to get divorced, 516 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:38,760 I have been divorced five times, so I'll pay my lawyer's number. 517 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,760 And I was like, all these women have my back. 518 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:43,000 I'm going to be fine. 519 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,080 And it really was fine. 520 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:46,360 A year-- I got a year. 521 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,640 We all celebrated with coffee and cake. 522 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:49,480 It was really nice. 523 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:50,520 They were so kind. 524 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:54,600 And that relationship ended up not staying together with him, 525 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,920 because he wanted his old wife and his old life back. 526 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,480 We were drinking buddies, and he just didn't want a sober wife. 527 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,760 So we ended up separating and getting divorced, 528 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,040 and I got to walk through all that completely sober. 529 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:07,960 It was very hard. 530 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,280 I was up close and personal with the carpet for a while. 531 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:16,000 I was just devastated, especially hard on my boys, all three of them. 532 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,480 But because of the 12 steps of alcoholics and onions, 533 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,720 I was able to make amends to all the children and the husbands. 534 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,480 And then we went to counseling, and we worked all through that, 535 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,440 because I needed to know I was making a decision not based on self. 536 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,960 I was making a decision based on going through the 12 steps, especially 537 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,440 step 10, and turning my will and my life over to the care of God 538 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,720 in step three, including that family, that it's not supposed to work out. 539 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,080 It's not supposed to work out. 540 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,800 And I wasn't doing anything to harm them anymore, 541 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,640 and continued to live that way even until today. 542 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,960 And that ex-husband and I, we're friendly. 543 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,000 Like, if I see him, he's not afraid. 544 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:51,320 He knows I'm cool. 545 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,720 And I've been to the children's wedding and graduations. 546 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:59,280 And it's just nice, because Alcoholics Anonymous has shown me a way out 547 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,120 from drinking, but it's also shown me a way 548 00:18:01,120 --> 00:18:03,800 how to be a good sober wife and mother to children. 549 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,120 Like, my oldest son is 38 years old now. 550 00:18:06,120 --> 00:18:07,720 He just had his own son. 551 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,920 He and his girlfriend had their own son, and now that baby's two months old. 552 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:12,640 And I get to be a good sober mom for him. 553 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:16,840 I made that promise to his father, you know, all those years ago, 554 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:17,760 and I couldn't keep it. 555 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:21,040 And today, because of Alcoholics Anonymous and just doing this thing 556 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,880 daily, every day, praying for the knowledge of God's will for me 557 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,680 and the power to carry that out, when I looked at my little grandson 558 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:28,880 and said, I'm going to be a good sober grandma for you, 559 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,960 I can keep that promise, not because of me, 560 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:35,040 but because of the power of a higher power in our meetings and steps. 561 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,000 And my experience is, is that several times-- 562 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,840 I shouldn't say several times-- 563 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,880 at least for a good long while, in the middle of Alcoholics Anonymous, 564 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:44,200 I almost didn't make it. 565 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,400 Like, at two and a half years sober, even though things 566 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,920 were going OK on the outside, I was still dying on the inside. 567 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,160 I was in the-- you know guys know my home group. 568 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:56,120 It's like the busiest home group ever, and strict, and busy. 569 00:18:56,120 --> 00:18:57,720 And I just was suffering. 570 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,920 Like, I still hadn't had that spiritual experience. 571 00:18:59,920 --> 00:19:04,840 I was dry, and I was becoming drier, and so sad, and depressed, and lonely, 572 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:05,680 and blah, blah, blah. 573 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,320 And then my mind would never shut up, no matter how many meetings I went to, 574 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,120 and how many newcomers I helped, and no matter how many times I 575 00:19:12,120 --> 00:19:13,200 acted better than I feel. 576 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:14,660 And I'm very passionate about this. 577 00:19:14,660 --> 00:19:15,680 I'm not angry. 578 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,360 I'm angry at the disease, because it almost got me. 579 00:19:18,360 --> 00:19:21,120 And I thought, in my mind, where the illness was centered, 580 00:19:21,120 --> 00:19:24,920 that I'm doing everything in AA that they asked me to do. 581 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,160 How come I don't feel better? 582 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,400 And my friends didn't get it. 583 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:30,920 I'm going to sponsor that move. 584 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,160 She's like, you better find someone close. 585 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:34,120 I'm concerned. 586 00:19:34,120 --> 00:19:38,820 And I finally met a woman after I had gotten myself $68,000 in debt. 587 00:19:38,820 --> 00:19:40,520 I was behind on the mortgage two months. 588 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,560 I was behind on all the car payments two months. 589 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,960 I had not filed my taxes on time, so they kept sending me all these letters, 590 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:47,760 and interests, and calling. 591 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,040 And no, they weren't calling. 592 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:50,460 They were just sending me letters. 593 00:19:50,460 --> 00:19:53,380 It was the credit card companies that were calling. 594 00:19:53,380 --> 00:19:54,000 They found me. 595 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:54,720 They found my mother. 596 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:55,600 They found my brother. 597 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,200 They were like, where's Linda? 598 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,840 Then I would wake up in the middle of the night with panic attacks. 599 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:01,960 And then I thought, oh, no. 600 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:02,880 It's got me. 601 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,840 I met this kind, loving woman, and the power of God spoke through her. 602 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,360 And she told me what was wrong. 603 00:20:07,360 --> 00:20:08,920 She said, I know what's wrong with you. 604 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,720 You just have untreated alcoholism while sober. 605 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,680 And have you had a spiritual experience yet? 606 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:14,280 I said, yeah. 607 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:15,160 I thought I did. 608 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:16,280 [INAUDIBLE] 609 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:17,640 She's like, no, you haven't. 610 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,560 You either have had one, or you haven't. 611 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,440 You're either pregnant, or you're not. 612 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,080 It's very simple. 613 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:24,240 She was kind of upset. 614 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,320 She's like, you have all this time-- 615 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,360 two and a half, three years-- and you're still suffering. 616 00:20:28,360 --> 00:20:29,880 You're walking right towards a drink. 617 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,760 Oh, and I was dating two guys at the same time. 618 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:35,600 And I had gotten engaged to one guy on the third date, cuckoo. 619 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:36,480 Cuckoo loony. 620 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,680 Who proposes to someone a cuckoo to another cuckoo on a third date? 621 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:41,480 Who does that? 622 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:41,960 Cuckoo. 623 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,640 So she said, I'm afraid that you're either going to drink, 624 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:45,720 or you're going to die. 625 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,720 And I don't know how much time we have left. 626 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,480 And it's definitely untreated alcoholism while sober. 627 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,900 It's definitely the spirituality manifesting in all this deading 628 00:20:53,900 --> 00:20:57,280 and all this trip-taking-- because I was going to Hawaii all the time-- 629 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,600 and in the men, in the shopping, and that if you don't do the 12 steps, 630 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:01,520 you're going to drink and die. 631 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:02,360 She was serious. 632 00:21:02,360 --> 00:21:04,580 And I said, are you sure? 633 00:21:04,580 --> 00:21:06,700 So I'm a secretary of a meeting on a Friday night. 634 00:21:06,700 --> 00:21:07,440 I can't drink. 635 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,200 You're like, there's no way. 636 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:10,160 I have commitments. 637 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:10,880 I'm in PG. 638 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,160 There's no way. 639 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,200 And she said, I'm going to get insurance on you. 640 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,400 And I'm going to collect, because I know you're going to die. 641 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:18,640 I'm going to collect insurance. 642 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,400 So just let me know. 643 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,000 I was told she was nice, because she was from Texas. 644 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,640 And I thought she was got that southern withdrawal. 645 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,280 No, she was very serious and very upset. 646 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:29,860 And I said, OK, what do I got to do? 647 00:21:29,860 --> 00:21:32,040 She's like, I got to take you all the way through the 12 steps again. 648 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,120 I said, I don't know what I could possibly learn. 649 00:21:34,120 --> 00:21:36,240 I've already been through them three times. 650 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,120 She's like, you're not going to learn anything. 651 00:21:38,120 --> 00:21:41,160 You're going to have an experience, a spiritual experience. 652 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,780 And you're going to have an experience and know the love of God. 653 00:21:43,780 --> 00:21:47,520 And that's what's required for you to overcome this fatal malady that you 654 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,560 have, and that your higher power loves you. 655 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,560 That's why you're here still today. 656 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,560 You're getting one more chance. 657 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:54,940 Higher power loves everyone. 658 00:21:54,940 --> 00:21:56,440 Some people take the chance. 659 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:57,240 Some people don't. 660 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,240 Some people are too far gone, or some people just will not. 661 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,840 And then some people become a will not, and then they become a cannot, 662 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,640 because they drink and then they die. 663 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,880 So they don't get to say, no, I don't want to do this. 664 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,040 I'm not going to your meeting. 665 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:10,160 I don't want to go earlier. 666 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,240 I don't want to do the steps yet, or I still want to date, 667 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:13,480 or whatever it is they say. 668 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,280 So do you want to be a will not, a cannot, 669 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:16,420 or do you just want to do the work? 670 00:22:16,420 --> 00:22:17,960 I said, I guess I'll just do the work. 671 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:18,920 Did all the work. 672 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,920 We went through step one, and it blew my mind. 673 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,880 I'm like, what book is she reading from? 674 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,400 Why haven't I heard it like this? 675 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:25,640 I think I was finally-- 676 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:30,040 all those-- there's a part in the book that says it was blocked by something. 677 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:31,840 Do you guys remember that part in the book? 678 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,560 Not property and prestige. 679 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,760 But anyway, oh, worldly clamors. 680 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,840 I was blocked by the worldly clamors. 681 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,520 And I had been selling real estate, so I was making a lot of money. 682 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:41,160 I bought a house. 683 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:41,720 I bought a car. 684 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,080 I did all these things, and nothing worked. 685 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,560 I still felt empty inside, and I still felt not very spiritual. 686 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,800 So what happened for me was when I saw all of step one, 687 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,200 like I was really hopeless. 688 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,860 Like I wanted to stop thinking and suffering, 689 00:22:55,860 --> 00:22:57,400 and I didn't want to drink anymore. 690 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,800 And I couldn't stop myself from feeling those things 691 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,800 or thinking those things, like powerless over my thinking, 692 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,320 because now I'm not drinking. 693 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,680 That's when I got that I was really hopeless. 694 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,240 There's no other way out for me. 695 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,320 And so I got on my knees, and I did step one. 696 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,520 And then I got to identify a new higher power 697 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,120 and be willing to open my mind to the power of the universe 698 00:23:16,120 --> 00:23:17,680 or whatever I wanted to call it. 699 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,400 And I got to write down all the old ideas that I had about God. 700 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,360 I didn't even know I had old ideas. 701 00:23:22,360 --> 00:23:23,840 And none of them were working, because I wasn't 702 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:24,880 going to the higher power. 703 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,120 And when I would go to the higher power, 704 00:23:26,120 --> 00:23:27,640 I was blocked by all the thinking. 705 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:28,720 And all of it was negative. 706 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,800 And then by the time I got to the third step, 707 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,400 it seemed very serious. 708 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,240 She had me write a list of all the things 709 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:35,560 that I needed to be OK. 710 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:36,680 And the list was long. 711 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:44,000 A college degree, money, house, peace, sponsees, money. 712 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,760 I always wanted more money, so money. 713 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,240 Because when we grow up broke, you think money's going to fix 714 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:49,640 it, it doesn't fix it. 715 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,560 And then I gave her the list of everything 716 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,440 I think I need to be OK, like papers. 717 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,640 So she's like, OK, give them to me. 718 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,080 And then she took the list, and she was holding on to my list. 719 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,320 And I was like, I don't know. 720 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,480 When she pulled it out, I was trying to pull it back. 721 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:04,600 Like, I need those. 722 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:05,640 It was all a lie. 723 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,040 It was all an illusion. 724 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,880 It was a delusion in my mind. 725 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,640 And then she took the paper, and she wrote three letters on it. 726 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,880 G-O-D. And she said, this is going 727 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,320 to take care of all of this. 728 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,640 I was raised to believe that I had to get mine. 729 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:22,560 I had to hustle. 730 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:23,360 I had to work. 731 00:24:23,360 --> 00:24:25,080 I've been a single mom since I was 15. 732 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,560 I was really good at hustling and working my tail off. 733 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,240 And she's telling me, God's going 734 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,560 to fix all these things on this list. 735 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:32,400 I was floored. 736 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,680 Only if I turn my will and my life over to the higher power. 737 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,200 So I waited, and we were on our knees praying. 738 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,720 And then the hot flew by, and I was like, that's not the sign. 739 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,000 She's always wanting me to look for a sign from God. 740 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,720 Butterflies flew by, and I said, OK, that's the sign. 741 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,800 And I promise you, my experience is this, 742 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,840 is that that feeling came in, and it just sat right here 743 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:54,920 and just filled me up. 744 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,280 Like, everything's going to be OK. 745 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:57,040 I don't know how. 746 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,680 Nothing had changed on the outside. 747 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,240 I'm still getting my house taken over by the bank. 748 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,120 I feel like the house is being taken over 749 00:25:04,120 --> 00:25:05,880 by the mortgage banker. 750 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,640 The car is about to be repoed, because by day 99, that's 751 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:09,360 when they come get it. 752 00:25:09,360 --> 00:25:12,520 And I was hiding it in places so they wouldn't come get the car. 753 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:13,320 So ghetto, right? 754 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,040 Sorry, it's so terrible. 755 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,160 So anyway, that happened. 756 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:17,920 And then I went all the way through the 12 steps. 757 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,560 And then by the time I got to step nine, 758 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,480 I was making amends, paying money back. 759 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:22,520 I sold my house. 760 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:23,600 I got rid of the cars. 761 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,040 I filed taxes. 762 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,760 I didn't actually owe all that money. 763 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,000 I still owed $68,000. 764 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,280 But it wasn't more than that. 765 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,280 Once you file your taxes, they're like, oh, yeah, 766 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:33,480 you're not making any money. 767 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,400 So we'll adjust this. 768 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,920 And they patched me through to a special line at the IRS. 769 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,380 I don't know if you guys know that. 770 00:25:39,380 --> 00:25:42,040 They're like, oh, yeah, we have a special guy you can talk to. 771 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,480 I'm like, oh, my god, there's more of us? 772 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,280 And he's like, I bet you'll feel better 773 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,240 once you get this cleaned up. 774 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,480 I was like, ah. 775 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,480 My son was in Iraq during this time. 776 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,160 And he was really upset because I had to sell the family home. 777 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:55,960 He thought we would never have a home again. 778 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,240 Because when you grow up like that, I said, I'm sorry. 779 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,000 I have to sell that family house. 780 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:01,760 I can't do it. 781 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,480 So when he was in Iraq, he decided to buy a house online. 782 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,960 This was many, many years ago, like 23 years ago. 783 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,000 And he bought a house from Iraq. 784 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,520 And I remember talking to the-- 785 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,920 there was something that happened with this credit. 786 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,240 And it got sent to collections. 787 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,320 And this is the power of God for me. 788 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:20,400 I just needed a sign. 789 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,480 And then I talked to the Verizon guy on behalf of my son 790 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,440 because I was selling real estate at the time. 791 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:26,880 And they were going through escrow. 792 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,040 And I asked him, could you please help 793 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:29,720 correct my son's credit score? 794 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,200 It looks like Verizon is taking him to collections. 795 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,080 But he doesn't even have a cell phone. 796 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,040 They told him to use his deployment papers to cut it 797 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:37,720 off. 798 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,960 And he said, oh, yeah, I could take care of that right now. 799 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,240 You must have been so scared. 800 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,360 He was a Vietnam veteran. 801 00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:45,680 And he's like, we just take care of these things one thing 802 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:46,200 at a time. 803 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:47,240 Don't you worry. 804 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:48,560 I'm like, are you in program? 805 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,160 And he's like, yeah, how'd you know? 806 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,020 I said, because we're going to take care of these one thing 807 00:26:52,020 --> 00:26:52,520 at a time. 808 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,800 No customer service person says that. 809 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:56,840 Who are you? 810 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,760 Who in AA sent you? 811 00:26:58,760 --> 00:26:59,760 It all got cleaned up. 812 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,280 And my point in sharing that story 813 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,640 is that every little thing, seemingly good or seemingly 814 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,880 bad, every little thing I give to the higher power, 815 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,200 I give over to the higher power in step 10, 11, 816 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,280 and then continue to do 12, be here with you guys tonight, 817 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:15,240 gets taken care of. 818 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,000 It may not be what I want, but it's always, always-- 819 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,480 I don't want to say it's always OK. 820 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,240 I never know what's coming down the pike. 821 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,760 And I don't want to know because some terrible things have 822 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,840 happened while I've been in sorority, none of which 823 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,120 is anyone's fault. It's just that I have people pass away. 824 00:27:30,120 --> 00:27:31,840 There's alcoholics that I tried to help, 825 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,400 but they went out and drank and killed themselves. 826 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:35,520 And it's like, I get it. 827 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,200 I get it because I was one of those gals 828 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,560 that I almost didn't make it. 829 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,000 So what it's like today is that I have a sober home. 830 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,200 I married a sober man. 831 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,800 I have a four-year-old son. 832 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:44,680 He has four years. 833 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,320 No, I'm just kidding. 834 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,240 He's four and a half. 835 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,040 I have a grandson. 836 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,840 I sponsor women. 837 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,760 I talk to my sponsors. 838 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,280 My sponsor texted me earlier today. 839 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:57,600 My sponsor, Sharon, is amazing. 840 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,480 She's got, I don't know, maybe 50 or 70 women she sponsors. 841 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,800 And she always takes time for me. 842 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,960 I feel like I'm the only one, and I know I'm not. 843 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,480 She sent me this text message 844 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,480 because wishing me good luck tomorrow, 845 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:11,680 not because I'm Irish, 846 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,080 because she knows that I've been working really hard 847 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,520 for the last few months to run the LA Marathon. 848 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,400 And it's hard because juggling all your schedule, 849 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,280 juggling your child, juggling work, 850 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,640 your loved ones, your sponcies, going to meetings, 851 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,840 staying sober for me is the only way to live life. 852 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,600 It's full from the time I get up 853 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,000 to the time I go to bed tonight. 854 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,680 And so she gets it, and she does more AA than me. 855 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,400 And she sent me a little text saying, 856 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,400 "I know you're gonna do great, girl, just smile. 857 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,120 And when you're running, think of me." 858 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,880 And I'm like, "I'm never gonna think of you, but I will. 859 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,680 I'll try, I'll really try." 860 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:43,520 And I'm thinking of me. 861 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,360 I'm like, "How the hell am I gonna finish this thing?" 862 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,320 And just think of me and God shining on you, 863 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:49,600 like all these lovely things. 864 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,920 And I just like sit in the kitchen, you know, 865 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,320 like she really cares, she really loves me. 866 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,520 And she's so kind. 867 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:57,960 She's like, "If you wanna run the marathon, 868 00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,080 go run a marathon." 869 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,080 And so I never thought I would have the discipline. 870 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,600 And I ran LA back in 2005. 871 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,200 I ran New York in 2022. 872 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,720 And now I'm running LA tomorrow. 873 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,520 And it did cross my mind, Ben, I'm so sorry. 874 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:12,760 I can't be here tonight. 875 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,120 (laughing) 876 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,520 And then I said, I texted you back, 877 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,120 "I'll be right back, I'll see you on Saturday." 878 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,680 Thank you everyone for listening.