1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,540 Hi everybody, my name is Peter Green and I am an alcoholic. 2 00:00:03,540 --> 00:00:04,380 - Hi, how are you doing? 3 00:00:04,380 --> 00:00:06,480 - And I want to thank Callan for a greeting 4 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,880 and I want to thank to be invited to participate, 5 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:11,920 but I don't want to take any more time. 6 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:13,420 Sean, thank you. 7 00:00:13,420 --> 00:00:18,420 I'm sober, I love sober, and I love listening. 8 00:00:18,420 --> 00:00:21,040 And man, you're on the top of your game. 9 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:22,320 You can sponsor me. 10 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:23,520 Honestly, God, I mean, 11 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,340 I would trust you with what you have now. 12 00:00:26,340 --> 00:00:30,200 And if you hadn't noticed, the dust coming off my jacket, 13 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,640 it's been over a year since I put a sports jacket on 14 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:35,960 and probably twice that with a tie. 15 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,000 But I read Nat Snap, right? 16 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:39,840 - Nate. 17 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:40,660 - All right, Nate. 18 00:00:40,660 --> 00:00:42,280 We've been fighting that for the last three days. 19 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,520 Nate texted me in my time going to meetings 20 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:46,560 and we're going to respect, 21 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,440 'cause he asked me to respect 22 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,400 the fellowship of Alcoholics Anonymous 23 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,800 by leaving my coat and tie. 24 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:53,960 So I'm going to step it through. 25 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,600 And you can all feel bad. 26 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:57,440 Thanks, Nate. 27 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:58,640 I love sober. 28 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,320 And Sean, I'm going to start off 29 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,360 prophesizing right off the bat 30 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:03,560 before I tell you who I am. 31 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,720 I have two, I have a pair of socks. 32 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:06,980 One's red, one's blue. 33 00:01:06,980 --> 00:01:08,920 You're not here in those that are on Zoom. 34 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,000 I'm asking about my daughter, Molly. 35 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:12,240 I'm talking about her. 36 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,000 She gave me a pair of socks that have photographs 37 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,240 of her two kids, which is Molly's, 38 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,320 and the other blue socks of Lauren, 39 00:01:19,320 --> 00:01:21,800 my older daughter, of her two, my grand. 40 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,880 So I got four grandsons and they're all sober. 41 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:25,320 And Lauren and Molly are sober. 42 00:01:25,320 --> 00:01:27,400 And for history, how much time do I got, Nate? 43 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,120 - About 35 minutes. 44 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:30,960 You're going to go until 8.25. 45 00:01:30,960 --> 00:01:33,800 Just pay attention to those lights on the podium. 46 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:34,920 - Okay, all right. 47 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,200 Well, being that I had a stroke last year, 48 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,220 I'm not going to remember it. 49 00:01:39,220 --> 00:01:41,440 So just tell me what I got to do. 50 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:42,920 I take direction today. 51 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,180 So, all right, Lauren and Molly. 52 00:01:45,180 --> 00:01:47,200 And I got these socks on with these photographs. 53 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,820 About six, let's go back. 54 00:01:49,820 --> 00:01:51,360 Two years ago, I had a stroke. 55 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:52,560 And I'm up and I'm about, 56 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:53,960 did you just call it a mid start? 57 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:55,360 Christians call it a blessing? 58 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,120 And their drunk says, "Hey, you're even lucky. 59 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:58,960 You're going to respect the language of the heart." 60 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,840 Trust me, it's going to be very difficult, like I said. 61 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,360 So the kids are with me right now. 62 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,800 My sobriety date, it's October 27th. 63 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:12,060 At 7.10 a.m. tomorrow morning, 64 00:02:12,060 --> 00:02:16,280 October 27, 1985, 65 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,560 I will be 39 years sober tomorrow morning. 66 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,520 And not a single second, you're listening on there on Zoom? 67 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,800 Not a single second had I been separated 68 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,080 from the experience that you gave me. 69 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,080 It didn't come from me. 70 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,360 It came from listening 71 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:40,840 to the Fellowship of Alcoholics Anonymous. 72 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,720 Listening was taught to me by Joe Quinn, 73 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:44,880 who became my sponsor. 74 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,720 He got sober in '52 and he found me, 75 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,920 and I'll do a little later on that. 76 00:02:49,920 --> 00:02:52,160 But he said to me, "Peter, you don't listen." 77 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,120 In my very early years, 39 years ago, 78 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:56,180 I said, "What are you talking about? 79 00:02:56,180 --> 00:02:58,420 Of course I listen to the business that I've been in." 80 00:02:58,420 --> 00:02:59,840 He says, "No, no, you don't listen." 81 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:00,920 I said, "What are you talking about?" 82 00:03:00,920 --> 00:03:03,760 He says, "Listening is an act of unselfish." 83 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,060 When I heard the word, I went back 84 00:03:06,060 --> 00:03:07,320 to when I was seven years old 85 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,440 and I failed the Latin test to become an altar buddy. 86 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,240 So the word act was religion. 87 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,400 That fast, I was out of game. 88 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,560 And I said, "Screw you, this is Peter." 89 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:16,440 All right, then explain. 90 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,240 What are you talking about, I don't listen? 91 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,960 If you're not listening to me here or on the Zoom, 92 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:22,880 you're thinking about yourself, and that's what he told. 93 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,400 That was my introduction 94 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,400 to the fellowship of alcoholic synonymous 95 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,940 and the beginnings of what will become, 96 00:03:31,940 --> 00:03:36,800 and still today, 39 years of listening. 97 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,080 Doesn't make me any bit different than you guys. 98 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:43,120 It just happens to be a practice that was given to me early 99 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,840 so that when I tell you I love sober, 100 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,800 it's because I've done the work. 101 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,200 My book right now, I'm sad. 102 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,320 I'm detoxing a guy in my house. 103 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,600 I've got a two bedroom apartment over in Sherman Oaks. 104 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,040 I didn't do speed, I didn't do speed, I did acid. 105 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,440 Hey, oh, by the way, Sean, thank you. 106 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,160 You know, you're on top of it. 107 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,600 You were a juvenile delinquent, thank you. 108 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,240 I related 100%. 109 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:07,980 (laughs) 110 00:04:07,980 --> 00:04:10,240 And I forget two years of community college, 111 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,200 another miracle in sobriety. 112 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,640 And I plunked everything leading up to. 113 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,160 I couldn't even get out of grammar school. 114 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:17,920 I was still drinking on the seventh grade. 115 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,680 And then we got out of there and I went to La Salle Academy 116 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,520 and then I plunked out to the Christian Brothers 117 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,580 because again, the Catholic vision and the authority. 118 00:04:26,580 --> 00:04:28,920 And I went, I was the first in the family 119 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,000 of all of the families to go to a public school. 120 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,760 That's how religious Catholic we were. 121 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,680 All the cousins and all of that business. 122 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,800 And I was in Newtown High School and I was a gymnast 123 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,760 and we drank and we used and it helped the whole, 124 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:45,720 the whole high school. 125 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,000 And that was the introduction. 126 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,200 And we have shortly after that, 127 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,440 I started a career with my brother-in-law. 128 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,680 My brother-in-law and I, I could bring his anonymity 129 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:59,120 as passed on with Kevin Dobson and Kojak and Matt Slanda. 130 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,840 And he and I were drunks, trust me. 131 00:05:01,840 --> 00:05:05,000 We needed to be high all the time. 132 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,160 Through this, I did Guiding Light in New York 133 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,000 and I came out here and did General Hospital 134 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,320 and I did a movie. 135 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,280 You guys are, you go on Netflix tonight, 136 00:05:12,280 --> 00:05:14,080 you're gonna see me on 16th. 137 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,560 The original title was Like a Crow in a June Bug. 138 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,460 So I went into film and television 139 00:05:19,460 --> 00:05:23,160 and until I got sober in '85, it wasn't a sober day. 140 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:24,680 There had to be something. 141 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,080 Three months ago, I met Radford Hall, 142 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,680 which is the North Hollywood group and Sherman Oaks 143 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,600 and a young member of our fellowship gets up 144 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,080 and I'm listening to the dialogue and says, 145 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:42,080 now I'm coming up on 39 years and I am working all day. 146 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,680 Every day is a new day and he says I needed alcohol 147 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,480 and it hit me like a bullet. 148 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:51,960 38 years sober and I never heard and I've done everything. 149 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,340 I've done the retreats, I go to the studies, 150 00:05:54,340 --> 00:05:57,160 the big book and then I love sober. 151 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,800 I love sucking you guys dry. 152 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,720 I want everything you got that I hear that I can use. 153 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:08,720 A newcomer says I needed and I immediately in no time 154 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:15,500 related that my entire life until October 27, 1985, 155 00:06:15,500 --> 00:06:21,240 when I came to that entire life, I needed alcohol. 156 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:22,160 Son of a bitch. 157 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:26,840 I am 80 years old and I know that you are hearing me 158 00:06:26,840 --> 00:06:30,280 but feeling me that we can't put a lid on this. 159 00:06:30,280 --> 00:06:32,560 When I die, I'm coming back the way I go out. 160 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:33,920 And that's my consciousness 161 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:35,000 'cause I'm gonna get into that 162 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,840 because Karen used the word tonight. 163 00:06:37,840 --> 00:06:39,520 God, I'm glad to be here. 164 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,280 I hope you guys on Zoom can feel me. 165 00:06:42,280 --> 00:06:46,040 I am here 100%. 166 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,080 I come in and I get greeted by Karen 167 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,920 and she says that she knows energy and looked and showed me. 168 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:53,320 All right, so let me tell you now 169 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:54,360 so that you don't get bored. 170 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:55,240 The word got me sober. 171 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,280 There was a guy, I did property management 172 00:06:57,280 --> 00:07:00,000 and I got married, got the two kids. 173 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:04,600 But on February 27th, I came to after five days of detox. 174 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,240 Five days, Tommy Zetowoski had eight years. 175 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,520 He was a part of a group that I'm gonna lead up to. 176 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,440 This was a guy that was, now here I wrote a book 177 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,840 and you can get it in the libraries and it's free. 178 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,240 The title is "Never Pay Rent Again." 179 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,080 I hope you're all laughing out there and saying, 180 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:21,400 "What the hell did he just say?" 181 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:22,240 But that is your book. 182 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,320 It's in the library so you don't have to buy it. 183 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,120 I'm not promoting sales. 184 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,120 If you're unemployed or your career, 185 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,280 I've been a resident apartment manager 186 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,720 and all of the titles above for over 30 years. 187 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,040 That was my supplement to allow me to do 188 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,400 guiding light and general hospital deliveries. 189 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:42,800 I was in the business for 40 years. 190 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:44,160 I'm retired now 12 years. 191 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,000 I didn't do anything along those lines. 192 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,680 But the book is in the libraries 193 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,000 and if you get ahold of me, if anybody asks, 194 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,080 I'll give you the book for free. 195 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:52,400 Okay, "Never Pay Rent Again." 196 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:56,240 So here I am, I'm coming out of a five day detox. 197 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,800 I am 41 years old. 198 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,440 You're not gonna get me to in any way 199 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,240 listen to your religions. 200 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:08,000 But Tommy was a janitor in a building that I managed 201 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,000 which was several hundred units in North Hollywood 202 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:15,000 and he nursed me for five days. 203 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,360 And for those that are out there and know and feel it, 204 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,000 you don't have to go there. 205 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,480 You don't have to go. 206 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,560 But that's where I was taken. 207 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,880 My God put me through hell. 208 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:26,960 That's my opinion. 209 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,800 If we believe everything or nothing, 210 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,600 he either is or he isn't, 211 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,000 then that son of a bitch put me through hell 212 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,080 to find him, which I have found. 213 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,000 I have found consciousness, conscious, conscious. 214 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,800 Five days out of detox. 215 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,720 And Tommy takes me the down time 216 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,520 to the Wagon Senate on Skid Row. 217 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:49,280 Now I grew up in Greenwich Village in New York City. 218 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:53,680 La Salle Academy was on the side of the Bowery 219 00:08:53,680 --> 00:08:54,680 in New York City. 220 00:08:54,680 --> 00:08:56,120 So I grew up with the bums. 221 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,080 Brooklyn bums, the bowery bums. 222 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,280 I grew up and I come up to a little LA to do my life 223 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,680 and get married and have kids in the whole nine yards. 224 00:09:03,680 --> 00:09:05,440 But at that five day awakening, 225 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,680 Tommy takes me downtown to the Wagon Center. 226 00:09:08,680 --> 00:09:11,000 And in the front door, Nate, come on up. 227 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,800 I'm gonna go off camera for a second. 228 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:13,640 Come here, baby. 229 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:17,880 My introduction, the Alcoholics Anonymous Fellowship. 230 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:19,800 300 pounds, all right? 231 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,560 300, 300, 300 pounds. 232 00:09:23,560 --> 00:09:25,600 You sit there at the front door of the Wagon Center. 233 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,160 And I'm just coming out of five day detox. 234 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:29,600 This is how I met. 235 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,200 Now I had 82, 84, and 85 D-Rice. 236 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:34,560 Sean, you talked about it, buddy. 237 00:09:34,560 --> 00:09:35,640 So you and I are the same. 238 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:39,000 I had 11 arrests, all alcohol related. 239 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,240 And I'll finish up my year on this. 240 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,080 I did a year in a Puerto Rican prison. 241 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,320 A Puerto Rican prison, not New York City. 242 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,160 I went to New York on the weekends 243 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,400 and I wound up taking account of the credit card 244 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,280 because we're involved with the business of New York. 245 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,120 And Ann and I, we got popped. 246 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,280 And I did a year in a Puerto Rican prison. 247 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,320 I was the only white boy in a 200 native. 248 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,840 And I wound up teaching English for the year. 249 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,400 This is the introduction. 250 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,080 If you can see it, this is the introduction 251 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:07,920 to you that are untreated. 252 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,400 If you haven't done the work, I wanna curse at you. 253 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:11,280 I really do. 254 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:12,120 If you don't do the work, 255 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,560 what the hell are you listening to me for? 256 00:10:14,560 --> 00:10:15,680 Think about what I'm just saying. 257 00:10:15,680 --> 00:10:18,760 If you haven't done the work, all right. 258 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,000 This is how I got introduced 39 years ago. 259 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:27,000 Tomorrow morning at 7.10, a handshake and a hug. 260 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:31,880 That's how I found Alcoholics Anonymous. 261 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,520 Whoa, God bless Zoom. 262 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,840 God bless me and God bless all of you. 263 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:42,400 So from there, Chandler Lodge is in North Hollywood. 264 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,720 It's a men's recovery facility. 265 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:49,520 And Tommy took me to Chandler Lodge and the 9 to 12. 266 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,080 And as he scraped me up and sat me down, 267 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:54,600 and I was not alcoholic, 268 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,640 you couldn't convince me that I had anything to do 269 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,800 with anything other than I wasn't an alcoholic. 270 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,800 I hope somebody can relate to denial. 271 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,320 It was beyond denial. 272 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:04,160 It was psychotic. 273 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,360 We're talking about '82, '84, '85, which is recent. 274 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,440 And here it is in October of '85. 275 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,000 So the awakening is the realization 276 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,960 that if I can get through to you, whether you're seasoned, 277 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,520 I used the word seasoned instead of old. 278 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,760 I'm 80, I'm not old, I'm seasoned. 279 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,880 That's for the women, single guys. 280 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:25,720 Follow me. 281 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,920 So here we are coming to Chandler Lodge. 282 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,120 And Tommy was in a literal sense of the word. 283 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:34,760 He took me down with Mac. 284 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:38,560 But from there, I was introduced to Father Terry, 285 00:11:38,560 --> 00:11:40,640 Richie and John McAndrews, 286 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:45,160 who have been two mentors to all of us Catholic priests. 287 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,280 And it began the journey. 288 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,440 But more important is although I had 289 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:54,760 the tremendous energy of sober in a room with others, 290 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:55,960 I didn't know who I was. 291 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,320 I was a celebrity to a greater extent and on the street. 292 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,720 But I was a bar fly for 14 years 293 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:07,240 at the Rain Check Bar and Grill in Santa Monica. 294 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:08,400 And I lived in the Valley. 295 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,920 And every night and going to work, I lived that way. 296 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:15,360 And until a few months ago when a young member 297 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,600 of our group said I needed alcohol. 298 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,000 And that's the disease powerful. 299 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:24,320 But now I'm 39 years hoping to get through 300 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,040 not only doing the work, 301 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,400 and I hope everybody's listening in here or on the Zoom, 302 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:30,240 you're missing out. 303 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,680 Joe Cramrud is 1952. 304 00:12:32,680 --> 00:12:34,960 Three months into sober, Tommy, 305 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,880 I got a job with American Savings down in Laguna Beach, 306 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:39,200 down south in Orange County. 307 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:40,960 Now here I am, three months without a drink. 308 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:42,600 Tell her what it is, a miracle. 309 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:43,600 I'm a miracle. 310 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:44,760 You're listening Zoom? 311 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:49,400 You better say to yourself, you are a miracle. 312 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,840 I want to tell you effing, but I can't do it out of respect 313 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,520 because I was told, don't you effing in this meeting. 314 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:56,640 And I'm going to do that. 315 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,360 I'm going to get through this meeting painstaking. 316 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:00,920 All right, but if you have to do it, 317 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,000 I did it with Joe Quinn. 318 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,120 He took me through the steps. 319 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:07,560 He has a meeting. 320 00:13:07,560 --> 00:13:11,520 He sobered Clancy, the Midnight Mission. 321 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,640 The Arlington group of Beverly Hills 322 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:18,280 was the home group for a man that's got millions, 323 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:22,040 millions of people around the world today, 324 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:23,040 Clancy Ingram. 325 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,240 Joe was part of the Arlington group. 326 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,720 Joe had an abandoned car on the street. 327 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,720 And when Clancy came scraping up, 328 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,240 he detoxed in Joe Quinn's car. 329 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,800 The energy that we are talking about, 330 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,440 you better investigate who, what, where, and how 331 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,520 brought you to Alcoholics Anonymous 332 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,360 because I believe those are the angels. 333 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:48,480 I believe that the energy that I'm about to talk about, 334 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,000 that I believe today as Karen does. 335 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:52,320 We talked earlier. 336 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,280 She doesn't know how big of a deal it is for me. 337 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,480 And I'm hoping to get through to you, anybody. 338 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,880 It's about doing the work, spiritual experience. 339 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,800 So when I went downtown, Joe in 1950, 340 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,360 he started a meeting at the Canyon Club. 341 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,600 It is still there today. 342 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,360 It's 2024. 343 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:12,600 He got sober in '52. 344 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,240 And I got sober in '85. 345 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,760 And I wound up months later, downtown in Laguna Beach. 346 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,200 Listen to this, guys. 347 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:24,320 The intensive study of the big book of Alcoholics Anonymous. 348 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,480 That's the label of a meeting. 349 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,000 It's still down there at 7 o'clock on Thursday. 350 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,640 And I tapped into that energy. 351 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,120 The Jews call it a mitzvah. 352 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:35,600 Christians call it a blessing. 353 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,480 And they says, effin' lucky. 354 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:41,200 So the gift that we all have is the ability 355 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,920 to listen and want a desire to change. 356 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:44,560 Can I? 357 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:45,760 Yes, human condition. 358 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,600 We have 10 million people that are doing it. 359 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:52,080 So if you don't do it, call yourself what you are. 360 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:53,200 Selfish. 361 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:54,840 I got a kid over at my house now. 362 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:56,680 I've detoxed him for the last three days. 363 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:57,880 And he went out. 364 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,680 He was supposed to drive me here. 365 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,040 If anybody in the group is in Sherman Oaks, 366 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,080 even though Nate has offered me, if you're in Sherman Oaks, 367 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:04,880 I need a right home. 368 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:06,240 I just thought I'd throw that out. 369 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,160 You can't do it, Zoom, because you're on camera. 370 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:10,280 All right, you news. 371 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,920 All right, so I'll be going home sometime tonight. 372 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,040 So with Joe, I tapped into the sources 373 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:17,680 we are doing here and now. 374 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,480 But the study of the big book-- wow, what are the years? 375 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:27,400 I mean, we're talking about a 41-year life of I need alcohol 376 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:28,240 and don't know that. 377 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,920 And the wreckage that I cause is tragic. 378 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,080 But the fact that I'm even standing up here now, 379 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,320 Puerto Rico alone, I had to take out five guys. 380 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,120 I stepped over, and there it wasn't. 381 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:39,000 I have not. 382 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:43,040 The lady that I put in jail because of my actions, Annie, 383 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:43,960 she was released. 384 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:44,560 I was released. 385 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,720 She went out six months, and I went out in a year. 386 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:47,680 Never saw her again. 387 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,520 Can't imagine what that event was all about. 388 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:55,400 But that's the love that I have of able with sober mind clear 389 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,800 to just, gosh, god, it's great. 390 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:58,760 It's good. 391 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:04,680 So with Tom and the meetings, a meeting back downtown. 392 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:09,160 And Tommy took me over to a meeting, Skid Row Drifters. 393 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,040 Louie Law, he's got about 55, 57 years sober. 394 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,320 He founded the Skid Row Drifters. 395 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,640 Any of you on Zoom have been downtown, 396 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,920 and you know what we're talking about with Skid Row. 397 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,560 There is a group, the Skid Row Drifters. 398 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:26,040 And the second Friday of the month, I am a sponsor. 399 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,160 It was given to me one week without alcohol. 400 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:33,880 So I have had, the second Friday of the month, 39 years. 401 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:35,240 Just once a month. 402 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,080 Pack a month, the panels. 403 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,200 Just about every group in San Fernando Valley 404 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:41,480 has been down the Skid Row. 405 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:43,160 And for those that have been down there, 406 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:44,160 you know where I'm at. 407 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,120 The Skid Row Drifters, it doesn't mean you have to run 408 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:47,400 and become a Skid Row Drifter. 409 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:48,200 No, no, no, no, no. 410 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:52,080 But the energy that I have been given was given. 411 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,400 But I want-- there's the difference. 412 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:55,920 I want to hear you. 413 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:57,120 I want to listen. 414 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:03,320 I believe that that is sober, the gift, if I choose to utilize. 415 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,440 So that when I die-- and I'm going to die. 416 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:06,320 I got born again. 417 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,080 If you're on-- and you're a Christian, and you love Jesus, 418 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:10,600 I was born again at 76. 419 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:11,200 Searches. 420 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,440 Every one of you on Zoom, we're here. 421 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:14,960 Now I'm prophesizing. 422 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:16,160 Now I'm teaching. 423 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:17,840 We are searchers. 424 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:24,680 I've listened to a quarter of a million shares in my 39 years. 425 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,080 I did the arithmetic. 426 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,480 Just 64,000 just out of the gate listening. 427 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:30,720 And the gift. 428 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,480 So Tommy introduces me to Louie Loy. 429 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:37,760 And I get a meeting downtown in the park, at Gladys Park, 430 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,600 that we gave it up at because of the COVID. 431 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,840 So for 36 years, I gave up. 432 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,680 We all gave up that meeting. 433 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,280 And trust me, it was the homeless on the streets 434 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,000 that were coming into the park. 435 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,640 And the panels, we'd bring the panels, seven panels a week. 436 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,920 And that's the Skid Row Drifters. 437 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:55,520 I got born again in 76. 438 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,560 Let me go back there, because that's the recovery. 439 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,880 In 76, now I'm doing theater. 440 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:04,000 I'm drunk all the time and everything else that supports 441 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:04,520 it. 442 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,560 And I can't think of his name. 443 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:07,600 It's off the top, man. 444 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:12,040 But a guy took me to the Hollywood Presbyterian Church. 445 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,000 And he thought that Jesus would save my soul 446 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:19,280 and help me stop drinking and being regressive, angry, 447 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:20,240 all the time. 448 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:21,960 Bad, bad, bad, bad to the phone. 449 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:23,440 So I meet the minister. 450 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:27,760 And with this name, Lord Olgovey was the guy's name. 451 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,400 I think he's still the pastor 40 years later. 452 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:30,960 I don't know. 453 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:32,360 But after this meeting, I'm going 454 00:18:32,360 --> 00:18:33,760 to find out if he's still alive. 455 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:35,840 But I met a guy by the name of Lord Olgovey. 456 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,520 And I started thumping the Bible on the goddamn boulevard. 457 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,640 Hollywood Boulevard, the actor in me comes out. 458 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:42,760 And I'm theatrical. 459 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,400 I'm on the streets saving souls. 460 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:48,480 Oh, man, it was bitchy. 461 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:54,160 And I'm drinking and I'm getting content. 462 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:55,600 This is a while, 76. 463 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,320 Just using his name as a blessing. 464 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:58,900 I'm getting a best friend for the Jews 465 00:18:58,900 --> 00:19:01,440 and getting my blessing and my-- 466 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,200 what the-- wow, sober. 467 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:04,440 So I spent the year. 468 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,960 And then it was time for me to leave, like we all get two 469 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:07,880 at some point. 470 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,520 And it was time for me to leave, very close with this. 471 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,560 So he catches up to me outside. 472 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:14,640 It's nighttime. 473 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,280 And last week, we had a full moon. 474 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,560 And if you guys look up and saw the moon on you on Zoom, 475 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,200 if you saw that full moon last week, it was-- 476 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,200 I understand it was one of the phases 477 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,760 was like hundreds of years ago. 478 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:32,520 And I happened to catch when I was in 1976 with Lord Olgovey 479 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:36,560 after a year of Jesus' teachings, 480 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,280 the Bible and the fellowship and the street 481 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:40,440 and the whole nine years. 482 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:41,760 And it's now-- 483 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:42,840 I got to go. 484 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:43,440 I got to go. 485 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,120 And he catches up to me. 486 00:19:45,120 --> 00:19:47,040 And he says, Peter, I'm out at night. 487 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:47,840 I'm saying goodbye. 488 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,240 And I'm drinking. 489 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,040 And he says, Peter, how did the moon get up there? 490 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:51,840 I got a green light. 491 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:52,920 I'm doing good, all right? 492 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,320 How did the moon get up there? 493 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,240 Now, when you're dealing with fundamental mentality 494 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,960 on the Zoom, if you guys are fundamental, you don't give up. 495 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,080 This priest was fundamental. 496 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,840 And I've been dumping for a year. 497 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,480 And he's asking me, how did the moon get up there? 498 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,280 And I told him, who gives up? 499 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,000 And he shut the door on me. 500 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,000 Because he knew I was psychotic. 501 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,240 And there was no hope for me, no hope. 502 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:21,440 And he let me go. 503 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,760 And back eight years later, tomorrow morning at 7 10, 504 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,320 I came to 39 years ago after telling 505 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,000 the minister of a church what I thought of him. 506 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:36,880 And eight years later, on October 27, 1985, 507 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,360 and I had religion in '76. 508 00:20:40,360 --> 00:20:42,880 And because of Tom and his teachings 509 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:47,040 and the studies and the big book in Alcoholics Anonymous, 510 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:54,680 I flashed back eight years that I carried that F-U 511 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,600 to the priest about Jesus. 512 00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:00,000 But in 1985, when I came to get Tommy, 513 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,080 eventually I realized eight years later 514 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:04,840 because I was on a retreat. 515 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,360 Eight years after, that guy pointed out the moon in the sky. 516 00:21:08,360 --> 00:21:09,760 And I'm going to close with this. 517 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,800 Because the full moon is going to be coming up. 518 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:17,400 And what got me sober, that gave me the conscience of sober. 519 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,720 Believe me, 100%, in a single second, 520 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:26,080 have I altered what my realization was. 521 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,400 And you'll be reading it, even if you've 522 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,120 been it 100 times before. 523 00:21:30,120 --> 00:21:31,640 But I'm the speaker tonight. 524 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,240 When I looked up in the sky, eight years later, 525 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:36,480 the moon was full. 526 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,720 And for the first time in eight years, 527 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,000 I realized what Lord [INAUDIBLE] 528 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,520 was trying to tell me. 529 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,480 Hey, Peter, you didn't put it there. 530 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,440 Something big, conscience, energy. 531 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:51,640 And that has been my higher power for tomorrow morning. 532 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,760 And for this night, energy. 533 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,360 I didn't put the moon up there. 534 00:21:55,360 --> 00:21:59,160 But I needed a priest and all of you 535 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:00,840 to carry me every single day. 536 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:05,480 Every single day, I depend on your energy, your belief 537 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:10,240 system, and I hope to God, on Zoom or physical, 538 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:14,200 that if you're having any challenges, my number unlisted. 539 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:18,880 Peter Green, G-R-E-E-N-E, call me 24/7. 540 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:19,840 I'm not a priest. 541 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,040 I'm not a minister. 542 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,480 I'm a [INAUDIBLE] alcoholic. 543 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:24,800 [INAUDIBLE] 544 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,200 Because I've done the work with all of you and given to me. 545 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:32,280 And I want to thank Nada Ken for giving me a time to share. 546 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:33,200 I'm not a speaker. 547 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,240 I haven't done this. 548 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:38,000 I'm a participant in my sober life. 549 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,640 And if anybody's got a challenge, please take my number. 550 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:41,200 Do the work. 551 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:42,040 Thank you, everybody. 552 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:43,600 I'm good.