1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,160 If you talk, they really need to see the top of my head for you. 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:05,160 Hey, I'm David. 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:06,160 I'm an alcoholic. 4 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:07,160 Thank you, Susan. 5 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:08,320 That was a wonderful talk. 6 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:10,760 I got sober in February of '95, so you're a newbie. 7 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:11,760 No, it's weird. 8 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,040 A friend of mine, I got sober in the Pacific group. 9 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:15,040 They had classes. 10 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,640 In fact, my class of '95 is going to have a banquet this September. 11 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:23,840 And a friend of mine, Dina Herrera, he passed away, and he had 40 days more than me. 12 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,720 And 20 years later, he still had 40 days more than me. 13 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:27,720 It's just the way that works. 14 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:33,320 But I've been sober for 30 years, and time is incredibly important, but it's not a tool. 15 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,600 There's no transition table in the back of the book. 16 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:36,600 You should be here by then. 17 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:38,280 And I've gotten in trouble thinking that. 18 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,040 But there's certain things that just heal. 19 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:41,040 It takes time. 20 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:42,040 There's no way around that. 21 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:47,160 Like, you know, people ask, "When is my family going to stop bringing up my drinking stories?" 22 00:00:47,160 --> 00:00:48,160 You got to give them time. 23 00:00:48,160 --> 00:00:49,800 There's nothing else you can do about that. 24 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:55,080 But the important part is I haven't had a serious depression in over 20 years. 25 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,020 I went through some legal stuff. 26 00:00:57,020 --> 00:00:58,560 My brother passed away. 27 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,440 And I haven't had an anxiety attack in almost 10 years. 28 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:06,280 And I haven't had a suicidal depression since the summer of 2001. 29 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,520 I was thinking of killing myself, seriously. 30 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:09,960 I was six years sober. 31 00:01:09,960 --> 00:01:11,200 That would scare me. 32 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,160 So I haven't thought of killing myself in, what, 24 years? 33 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,800 And most importantly, I haven't thought of killing any of you since Thursday. 34 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,200 Maybe I should still go to business. 35 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,040 But I'll tell my story. 36 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,760 I love talking about the steps and recovery. 37 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:28,520 But the best I can tell you is get a sponsor and whatever your sponsor says, he's right. 38 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,880 In '99, we read the same book, so 99% of it's going to be the same. 39 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,560 But if he tells you to do it four steps one way, and I tell you to do it a different way, 40 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,360 you really can't go to your sponsor and say, "You know, some speaker I never heard about 41 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:42,800 on Saturday night was tall and balding, and he said do it this way, because he's not single." 42 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,840 So the way I drank, I drank so I could be with people. 43 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,320 I knew that before I ever made it to an AA meeting. 44 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:49,320 Can't be over yet. 45 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,760 You know, I drank so I could be with people. 46 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,240 I knew that before I ever made it to a meeting or ever talked to a shrink. 47 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,000 A room just gets friendlier when I have some booze in me. 48 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,880 My dad was a doctor on the West Side, and he used to have huge jars of amphetamines. 49 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,080 And if I ate a bunch of those, I could be with a whole lot of people. 50 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,200 And then I found cocaine and realized I'm just wasting my time with people. 51 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:09,320 And this is an AA meeting. 52 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:10,800 I've got wonderful CA stories. 53 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,700 You know, cocaine, my cocaine stories, my drinking stories are pretty much the same. 54 00:02:14,700 --> 00:02:17,160 Just a different demographic of hooker, basically. 55 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:21,280 But when I got here, I thought because I had a real relationship with cocaine, I heard 56 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,080 people say that I did cocaine so they could drink more. 57 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:24,840 I did cocaine so I could do more cocaine. 58 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,600 I thought that meant maybe I couldn't sit here. 59 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,060 And it was so fortunate that I found a bunch of guys and says, you know what? 60 00:02:30,060 --> 00:02:31,320 This is your seat. 61 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:32,320 You're dying. 62 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:33,320 You stay here. 63 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:34,320 This is your seat. 64 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:35,320 Nobody throws you up. 65 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,640 But you can go somewhere else where you can talk about cocaine, whatever's killing you. 66 00:02:38,640 --> 00:02:39,640 Go there also. 67 00:02:39,640 --> 00:02:40,640 You still come back here. 68 00:02:40,640 --> 00:02:41,640 And I needed that. 69 00:02:41,640 --> 00:02:44,480 I didn't even know that I didn't have to quit here and go somewhere else. 70 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:48,840 And I needed to hear, and I say this, you need to hear if you have a relationship with 71 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,960 a rig or a pipe, you need to hear somebody who loves doing that and they stop. 72 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:54,440 And you need to honor that. 73 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:55,440 You're still welcome here. 74 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,240 I still want to hear your stories and get, you know, you get free coffee for life. 75 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:00,520 All the benefits of it. 76 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,360 But, uh, the way I drank was always different. 77 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:08,800 And uh, I mean, my drag in high school, I mean, my first real drink was Halloween, 1970. 78 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,060 I stopped throwing up around Christmas. 79 00:03:11,060 --> 00:03:12,060 I was at Halloween party. 80 00:03:12,060 --> 00:03:14,480 My date left with some guy named Skippy. 81 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,100 I got sick to death. 82 00:03:16,100 --> 00:03:17,100 Somebody punched me in the mouth. 83 00:03:17,100 --> 00:03:18,100 Best day of my life. 84 00:03:18,100 --> 00:03:19,100 What a change. 85 00:03:19,100 --> 00:03:23,280 And this is what happens to me and doesn't happen to other people. 86 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:28,440 My dad paid a lot of money for piano lessons and we lived on the corner of Bedford in Santa 87 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:33,480 Monica and we used to have parties every Friday night for years, 15 years. 88 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,840 And even if we were out of town, the house would be open and people would come by and 89 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,600 we'd have like anywhere between 30 and 50 people. 90 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:44,080 So the D-list celebrities would come by, they would entertain like a big celebrities, a 91 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,960 guy named Mario Machado and you know who Mario Machado is? 92 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,000 Nobody else knows who he lives against. 93 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:50,560 And dad would ask me to play piano. 94 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,840 And he spent a lot of money for me to take lessons, but I can't play in front of people. 95 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,140 And sometimes I would throw a temper tantrum or I'd go to the bathroom and never come out 96 00:03:57,140 --> 00:03:58,140 or I just leave. 97 00:03:58,140 --> 00:04:02,720 I cannot play in front of people, but this time, and I want to say I'm not yet 20 years 98 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:03,720 old. 99 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,520 I was drinking vodka, vodka martinis, cause that's what James Bond drinks. 100 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:12,160 I had a good buzz on and he asked me to play and I just took a huge, I had a big tumbler 101 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:13,160 of vodka. 102 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,520 I just took a huge gulp and what it does for me, you know what it does for me if it doesn't 103 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:17,520 do it for you. 104 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,880 It's like explaining the color brown to a blind person, but it just goes down the back 105 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:25,560 of my neck, settles just at the base of my neck and just goes, and I went into the wonderful 106 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,400 world of, I don't give a damn what you think about me. 107 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:33,160 And I sat down at the piano for the first time in front of people, in front of an audience, 108 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,920 you all went away and I didn't care about performing for you. 109 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:37,840 I didn't care about how accurate I was. 110 00:04:37,840 --> 00:04:39,440 I didn't care what you thought of me. 111 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:43,040 And I was just willing to let my hands surprise me and just explore the things I was going 112 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,040 to play. 113 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,120 Whether I was an artist or a musician, that was an amazing feeling. 114 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:51,280 And then something clicked that day and I thought, if I drink, I can do this. 115 00:04:51,280 --> 00:04:53,920 That transferred to everything else and I wasn't wrong. 116 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,280 I have never once asked to go to the dance and been turned down in my life because I 117 00:04:57,280 --> 00:05:01,080 grew scared to death of the girls asking me to go on the dance music at the Chippendales 118 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:02,080 on Overland. 119 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:03,080 And I'm 6'1". 120 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,120 I used to have a lot of hair that was really frizzy and I used to wear a leisure suit. 121 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,740 I was about 145 pounds, so I'm getting wet. 122 00:05:08,740 --> 00:05:10,000 So it looked like a big Jewish dark. 123 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:15,080 They would set me up with apricot brandies because I like sweet drinks and I get a buzz 124 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:16,080 on. 125 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,240 And I have never once asked the girls to dance and been turned down because I know who wants 126 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:20,360 to go on the dance floor. 127 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,720 I used to avoid them like the plague, but you give me some booze and I'm going to go 128 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:24,720 dancing. 129 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:25,720 I'm also going home alone. 130 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:26,720 And those were some great times. 131 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,080 I mean, sorry if I could go back to being 20 years old, I drink. 132 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:31,920 There's no way I could stop. 133 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:36,840 Because I heard people say, you know, I went in trade my worst day sober for my best day 134 00:05:36,840 --> 00:05:40,120 drinking and go, "Hey, go drinking with you." 135 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:41,720 They just can't say anything to me. 136 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,740 I don't get that because I had some wonderful times. 137 00:05:44,740 --> 00:05:47,600 And then just slowly stuff started happening. 138 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:53,440 And I've got the drama stories, I have my kind of, I've lost a car, there's a 76 Buick 139 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,480 Riviera that I don't know what it's called, but it still hasn't turned on and I'm slowly 140 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:58,800 giving up hope. 141 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:04,360 I have this amazing knack of bringing my sarcastic sense of humor to already tense situations. 142 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,800 So I have a 0 and 20 barside record, but that's not the problem. 143 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,960 The problem was that my life just slowly, slowly turned into my bedroom. 144 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:12,960 I like meeting this size. 145 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:14,840 I got served in the Pacific. 146 00:06:14,840 --> 00:06:19,000 And the Pacific is a wonderful place to get served, it truly is, but it's a big place. 147 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:23,240 And you put me in a room with a thousand people and I can hide, I'm meeting this size I can't 148 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:24,240 hide in. 149 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,760 The problem is when I'm sober, I'm in a room full of people. 150 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:28,760 That's when I feel lonely. 151 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:32,880 Now when I'm home by myself, now when I'm in my bedroom, I might feel thinking my life 152 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,680 sucks and bitch about everything, but I'm lonely when I'm among the whole of you. 153 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,560 And you always have this wonderful way of communicating with each other that I never 154 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:41,560 experienced. 155 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,840 And when I drink, my head stops telling me you're different, that's all. 156 00:06:44,840 --> 00:06:48,440 And slowly, like I said, my life just basically just turned into my bedroom. 157 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:53,440 I have some jackpots, you know, I got stabbed once chasing after I got through MacArthur 158 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:54,440 Park. 159 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,920 And the stabbing wasn't there, I'm pretty still at the hospital afterwards. 160 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,260 None of those got me, so I've been robbed a few times, but none of those got me. 161 00:07:00,260 --> 00:07:04,120 What happened was my dad, he was a doctor, he would have backed me into anything I wanted. 162 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:09,800 You know, I'd be going to any school I wanted to go to, I could open the business I wanted 163 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:10,800 to. 164 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,860 I chose to hang out in the bowling alley and work in casinos. 165 00:07:13,860 --> 00:07:16,760 And bowling alleys, by the way, are great because the way I drink, see, I can't drink 166 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,600 in a Fufu bar because I get kicked out in the bowling alley, they kick you out, but 167 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,040 they always let you back in the next day. 168 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,200 To this day, I still like girls who went on for longer than the other one, that still 169 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:25,200 gets me hot. 170 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:33,360 I was working at the bicycle club, and one of the cast years was, we had a two-year relationship, 171 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:37,160 and she knew I drank too much, we had many conversations, she didn't know I was smoking 172 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:38,640 free-basing all the time. 173 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:39,640 You can hide it. 174 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,480 I know this is me, but that's a big, bad discovery. 175 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:46,680 And she broke up with me, not because I was ever abusive to her, ever screamed at me, 176 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:47,680 you know. 177 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:48,680 She just got tired of me not showing up. 178 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,800 Because what happened is, like, I'm the one who brought the camels back, we wanted to 179 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,240 go to the Pomona State Fair. 180 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,080 She lived out in Ratchikookamongo, we lived out in Ratchikookamongo. 181 00:07:56,080 --> 00:08:00,820 And she wanted to take the kids to Pomona State Fair, and Friday night, I started drinking 182 00:08:00,820 --> 00:08:01,820 in the bar. 183 00:08:01,820 --> 00:08:03,280 Then I go buy my stuff and I start smoking. 184 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,640 And Saturday morning, I haven't slept, you know what, I promise you, we'll do it next 185 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:07,640 weekend. 186 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,600 I swear to God, I will do it next weekend. 187 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,200 And she just got tired of the two years of me promising we're going to do it next weekend. 188 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:18,080 And so, she breaks up with me, and like a good drug addict, I go, "Well, you love breaks 189 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:19,080 up with you." 190 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:20,080 You go, "Great. 191 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:21,080 I can party without hiding it." 192 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:22,080 I did that for a couple weeks. 193 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,400 And this is why drugs are an important part of why I have to tell my story, because I've 194 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:29,480 never once opened up a bottle of Seagram's and gotten Pepsi, never opened up a bottle 195 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:30,480 of vodka and gotten 7-Up. 196 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:34,960 I go down to MacArthur Park and I buy a $20 bottle, and I rush back to my apartment in 197 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:35,960 Downey. 198 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,760 I remember taking the steps because the elevator was too slow, and my hand is breaking on the 199 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,360 sweat, and my heart is pounding because I know how I'm going to feel. 200 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,880 I go up into my bedroom and I pull the pipe out of the drawer, I throw the rack on the 201 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,800 pipe, I take off my cigarette lighter, and I put the cigarette lighter up to the pipe, 202 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:50,800 and it doesn't burn. 203 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,780 I just spent $20 for a piece of soap. 204 00:08:52,780 --> 00:08:57,120 And I traded a family that really loved me a $20 piece of soap. 205 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,520 And Anna Adelphi was raising three girls that had grown up. 206 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:05,880 I made my amens, they made all they had, just like they knew when they were five. 207 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:10,000 But Linda was seven, but Linda was nine, Amy was seven, and Anna Daisy was five. 208 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,640 And I still remember when Anna Daisy would run to me when she was scared, and one time 209 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:19,380 there was a movie called Chucky, but there was an evil doll on TV. 210 00:09:19,380 --> 00:09:23,560 She saw it and she started screaming and crying, and I remember picking her up, and I held 211 00:09:23,560 --> 00:09:27,120 her till she stopped crying, and I held her till she fell asleep, and that was the first 212 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,600 time in my entire life I ever felt like I was worth anything. 213 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,640 All of a sudden it occurred to me that I traded the love of that good ol' for a $20 piece 214 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:34,640 of soap. 215 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:35,640 And I was struck sober. 216 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:36,640 This is in 1991. 217 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,680 I did go down to the bar at the bicycle club, and they were going to set me up, and I said, 218 00:09:40,680 --> 00:09:41,680 "I can't. 219 00:09:41,680 --> 00:09:42,680 I've got to get my life together." 220 00:09:42,680 --> 00:09:44,360 You ever tried to go out and get your life together? 221 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:51,560 Sixty days later, I am playing Russian roulette with a Model 15 Dan with less than 357 mag. 222 00:09:51,560 --> 00:09:55,120 And the interesting part of that, Model Dan with less than 357 mag, and the cylinder doesn't 223 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:59,160 spin which takes all the sport out of Russian roulette, but I reached a level of depression 224 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:00,880 I didn't even know was available to me. 225 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:01,880 I'm 60 days sober. 226 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:03,320 Your life's supposed to get better? 227 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,560 I'm scared to go to sleep because at three o'clock in the morning, I'm waking up wanting 228 00:10:06,560 --> 00:10:08,180 to kill myself, and I'm scared. 229 00:10:08,180 --> 00:10:13,520 I spoke to a girl who worked at another club, and the reason I spoke to her is because she 230 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,240 was a cutter, and I don't understand cutting, that's not my deal, but she shared her pain 231 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:18,240 with me. 232 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,120 I was able to share my pain with her, and the worst part about the depression and the 233 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,080 loneliness and all the hate in my life, I thought I was the only person that felt like 234 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:25,080 that. 235 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:26,080 I had no excuse. 236 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,400 I knew she wouldn't laugh at me because I felt like less of a man for being the best. 237 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,720 I'm supposed to John Wayne my way out of everything. 238 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:32,720 So I spoke to Debbie. 239 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:38,080 I said, "Debbie, I haven't free-based and I haven't drank in 60 days now, and I want 240 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:39,080 to kill myself. 241 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:40,080 This is, I think, weird." 242 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:41,080 And she goes, "Oh, yeah. 243 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,400 When you stop drinking, you have to replace it with something spiritual." 244 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:45,400 Now I'm totally screwed. 245 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:46,400 I'm Jewish. 246 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:47,400 It takes years to become a rabbi. 247 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:48,400 I'm in trouble today. 248 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,640 So I go talk to Jeannie, and so now we've got to back up. 249 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:56,120 Jeannie met her like four years before, and she flirted with me, then she goes into the 250 00:10:56,120 --> 00:11:00,160 bar, and I see her again for two years, and I remember because when I met her, she was 251 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:04,520 maybe 60 pounds overweight, and now she's lost all the weight, and she looks amazing. 252 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:09,120 Jeannie just, oh, she was in this brown t-shirt, and I can still see her today, and she's walking 253 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,280 down the concourse of the bicycle club, and I go up to her, and I say, "Hey, Jeannie, 254 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:13,280 let's go get a drink." 255 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:14,280 She goes, "Oh, no. 256 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:15,280 I mean, you're sober." 257 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,120 And I had no idea what sober meant, except it meant I wasn't getting lucky then. 258 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:19,840 But Jeannie thought I was her lucky dealer. 259 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:24,800 Now the reason I don't deal cards anymore is because the way I dealt cards, if I liked 260 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,680 you and you were a good tip, you'd win. 261 00:11:26,680 --> 00:11:29,120 If I don't like you, you're going to pay him off. 262 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:30,960 You don't tip, so you don't even get a hand to play. 263 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:32,400 They had videotape of that. 264 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:33,800 No sense of humor about that shit. 265 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:37,360 So I just retired as a computer programmer in healthcare, and Jeannie thought I was her 266 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:38,360 lucky dealer. 267 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:39,360 And I had nothing to do with it. 268 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,120 She was a great tip, and she had a rack of one-stop. 269 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,680 And so Debbie says, "Go talk to Jeannie," and Jeannie's like, she got sober, and she 270 00:11:44,680 --> 00:11:46,400 was like five years sober at that point. 271 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,640 And I go up to Jeannie at the table, and I said, "Jeannie, I need to talk to you. 272 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:53,640 I haven't smoked any crack, and I haven't any drink in 60 days. 273 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:54,640 I killed myself." 274 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:55,640 And she goes, "That's great." 275 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:56,640 I go, "No, no. 276 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,640 I don't think you're hearing me, really. 277 00:11:58,640 --> 00:11:59,640 I'm not kidding. 278 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,800 I am scared to go to sleep because I wake up at 2 o'clock in the morning thinking I need 279 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:03,800 to blow my brains out." 280 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:04,800 She goes, "That's fantastic. 281 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:05,800 What are you doing?" 282 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,680 She goes, "No, you're doing—you're going to be all right." 283 00:12:08,680 --> 00:12:09,680 "Yeah?" 284 00:12:09,680 --> 00:12:11,440 She goes, "Why don't we meet tomorrow?" 285 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,280 So she couldn't talk to me then because she was winning at the table, and you don't get 286 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:15,280 up winning for anything. 287 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:19,400 She goes, "We'll meet tomorrow for lunch," and we met in the Wilshire area at this Chinese 288 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:24,080 restaurant because I'm Jewish, Jeannie's Jewish, and when two Jews 12-step each other, we go 289 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:25,080 for Chinese food. 290 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:30,120 I don't know what a 12-step call is, but then she starts describing my feelings, and I didn't 291 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,480 have the vocabulary, but she knew my insides better than I did. 292 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:37,900 And she described that loneliness that you can hear coming out of the walls. 293 00:12:37,900 --> 00:12:42,760 Everybody else on the planet learns how to put together a life, and you just got me with 294 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:43,760 basic. 295 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:44,760 You never got the basic instructions. 296 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,680 Then she asked me, "Have you been walking on this planet your entire life waiting for 297 00:12:48,680 --> 00:12:50,360 the mothership to come take you home?" 298 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:51,600 And I've always felt like that. 299 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:52,600 That's my earliest memory. 300 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,160 So she could have taken me anywhere. 301 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,640 Where she took me was a place called Chandler Lodge, and Chandler Lodge was just loving 302 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,640 and accepting, and I had no idea what was going on. 303 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:05,040 They were calling people to share, and I had no idea what they were talking about or that 304 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:06,720 they knew what to say. 305 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,200 The steps looked ridiculous. 306 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:12,080 I mean, one was like, "Your life's on the map, I only have a life." 307 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:13,600 Two was, "I'm not in the store." 308 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:18,000 Three was the God thing, and the God thing was, "Not that I didn't believe in God, it's 309 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,000 just that I wasn't worth it. 310 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:20,000 There were so many other people. 311 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,720 They should be in front of me in mind, in my cell." 312 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,360 Fourth step was homework, fifth step was giving yourself up. 313 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:27,360 We don't do that. 314 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,800 Third and seventh was complete poetry, and eight and nine was no effing way, and that's 315 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,120 exactly how you work the steps without a sponsor. 316 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:34,120 Perfect. 317 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:38,080 Here's the thing about me that makes me do my drinking different than other people's. 318 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:39,520 Alcohol fixed my life. 319 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:40,520 It did something for me. 320 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:44,280 We don't let it do what it does to us if it didn't do something for us. 321 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:48,040 And so, I honestly, I've never been mad at alcohol because I honestly believe that alcohol 322 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:49,960 just kept me alive long enough to get here. 323 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,080 The second thing is, when I stop drinking, life gets worse. 324 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,240 When I get sober, that's when life gets painful. 325 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,720 And the third thing about the, I don't know about you guys, but I can't have a bottom 326 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,320 bad enough that'll keep me sober for the rest of my life. 327 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,440 It just gets my attention for a little while. 328 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,640 And losing Delphi and those kids was a real bottom. 329 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:06,840 I had other bottoms too. 330 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,840 But a few months later, I'm just forgetting how bad it was, and I'm thinking maybe I can 331 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,780 just have one drink and I'll be fine. 332 00:14:12,780 --> 00:14:16,200 And then, you know, maybe I'll, I only have like seven, eight months, and I'm scared to 333 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,400 death because I don't know how to share anyone I'm going to share if I take a birthday talk. 334 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:23,440 And by the way, I've given 30 birthday talks, I don't remember any of them, so if you're 335 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,480 sweating it out, don't worry about it, you're not going to remember either. 336 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:30,280 But I said, I can't remember how bad it was, I've been sober 30 years, you hear someone 337 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,560 talk about, you know, I don't want to forget how bad it was, you forget, we're human, we're 338 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:34,560 just good. 339 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:35,560 I can still remember this. 340 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,560 I can remember going down, getting, you know, getting my medicine, going back to my apartment, 341 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:45,040 going up to my lips, having to go down, and thinking, oh my god, this feels so amazing, 342 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:49,080 how could I ever give this up, immediately followed by, you just fucked up. 343 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:55,320 And I'm sorry, yeah, Nathan, he sent me a text saying, you know, no profanity, no biggie 344 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:56,520 if you look at it. 345 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:00,560 I tried telling the story without that, but it just, can't do it without the ministry, 346 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:01,560 sorry. 347 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:02,600 I still remember that. 348 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:06,300 And my sobriety though, it didn't mean much to me, I just went down to zero, and you can't 349 00:15:06,300 --> 00:15:09,480 buy it back, you can't get a letter from the governor, so what I did is I went back to 350 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,420 my meetings and people asked me, how are you doing, and I said, fine, how long are you 351 00:15:12,420 --> 00:15:13,420 sober now? 352 00:15:13,420 --> 00:15:17,280 And I tried to remember sobriety, I went to meetings for two and a half years telling 353 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:21,320 people I was sober when I was getting loaded or drunk every single night, and that's loneliness 354 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:25,320 on top of loneliness, 'cause now I'm like, I'm covered with this plastic bubble. 355 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:30,560 And I just got tired of lying, and I get fired from every casino, i.e. all I've been doing 356 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:34,120 is working casinos, hanging out in bowling alleys, so I have no marketable skills and 357 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:35,360 very high salary bonus. 358 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:41,560 So I'm scared, and this one girl calls me February 14th, 1985, and her name was Peggy, 359 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:42,560 and Peggy was a slipper. 360 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,560 Is that when everybody stayed sober from their first AA meeting? 361 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,480 Peggy, first time I met Peggy, they were pulling the vomit out of her ear. 362 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:54,880 Her last week was in February of 1992, and now it's 1995, she's got three years, and 363 00:15:54,880 --> 00:16:00,020 I said, hey, if you don't have a job, you may have to go up north, this is Wofford Frasier 364 00:16:00,020 --> 00:16:02,880 Park, and I'm scared to go up there, and she goes, oh, you're three years sober, aren't 365 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:03,880 you? 366 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,640 They go, no, I got loaded last night, I think I was able to talk to her. 367 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,560 And so she said, well, get to a meeting, and the reason I'm here today is because it was 368 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,800 a Tuesday, and the only meeting I knew about was on a Tuesday, and I went to a meeting 369 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:18,480 on the Tongan River side, and the first person I run into was Jeannie, Jeannie Ardeo, she's 370 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:22,000 gone, and Jeannie's glad to see me, and she goes, what are you doing, Dave, why aren't 371 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,000 you sober? 372 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,640 I got loaded last night, please don't tell anybody, and she was still glad to see me, 373 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:31,640 so I thought you had to be sober to go to alcoholics, and she was still happy to see 374 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:32,640 me. 375 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,760 And then the secretary comes out and asks me if I'd leave the meeting, and says I can't 376 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,200 because I don't have 24 hours, please don't tell anybody, and the person she did ask to 377 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,400 leave would ask me if I would be one of the people who would share at the meeting, because 378 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,920 I can't, I don't have 24 hours, please don't tell anybody. 379 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,640 I told every single person I met that they stayed up with me till it was four in the 380 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,720 morning to give me my first day, and the next day this guy named Mike, who I liked because 381 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,280 he was balder than I am now, picks me up and takes me to this huge meeting in Brentwood. 382 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:59,040 There's over a thousand people there, I don't remember a damn thing about the meeting, except 383 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,080 when they sang Happy Birthday, they just go keep coming back. 384 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,320 The channel, they go keep coming back sober, which I meant that's the only way you're welcome 385 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:06,960 back, but here they just go keep coming back. 386 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,640 That's all I remember about the meeting, and he takes me home, and I'm feeling good, and 387 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,560 he goes, "Well, go to a meeting tomorrow, I'll pick you up," and I go, "I didn't think 388 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:14,560 so. 389 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,320 I've been to a meeting two days in a row, don't you think I've done enough?" 390 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:20,840 And he goes, "No, no, no, no, we'll go to a meeting tomorrow," and says, "No, no, really, 391 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,680 I've turned myself over to God, I've gotten out of this meeting two days in a row." 392 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,920 And he goes, "I'll be honest with you, you're probably not going to stay sober." 393 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:28,920 And I go, "What?" 394 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,000 "I'll be honest with you, most people don't stay sober, I don't think you're going to 395 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,000 be one of them. 396 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,200 I only went out of 10 to stay sober, you're probably going to get loaded," and he was 397 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:37,200 right. 398 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:38,760 I was planning on my connections open 24 hours. 399 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,280 And I said, "Well, why the hell are you taking me to meetings if you know I'm not going to 400 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:42,280 stay sober?" 401 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:46,360 He goes, "I don't know what it does for you, but it keeps me sober, and I do shit for you." 402 00:17:46,360 --> 00:17:51,080 This is why I have 30 years, not because I've worked a fantastic program, I have not found 403 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:52,080 God. 404 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:53,080 I don't know what God means. 405 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,800 That's the wonderful thing about that whole accident, was you ask somebody what they believe 406 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,680 in God, you've learned nothing about them. 407 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,200 You ask 300 people what their idea of God is, you get 300 completely different answers. 408 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:05,120 But I stayed sober that night just so I could call this complete stranger until I didn't 409 00:18:05,120 --> 00:18:08,000 get loaded the night before, and I don't know where that comes from. 410 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,680 I couldn't stay sober for Delphi, the kids, my own parents, for decent jobs. 411 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:15,120 I stayed sober just so I could call up this guy and tell him I didn't get loaded the night 412 00:18:15,120 --> 00:18:16,120 before. 413 00:18:16,120 --> 00:18:18,120 And that's how I stayed sober my first 30 days. 414 00:18:18,120 --> 00:18:22,200 I call up Mike every single day, and of course I called him to ask him to be my sponsor, 415 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:23,760 and then I would call him and name him. 416 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:28,200 Well, there were times it was so hard, and I would call him and say, "The sobriety is 417 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:29,200 too tough. 418 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,280 I feel like I'm going to die if I don't have a drink." 419 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,280 He talked to me, he says, "Look, you want to have a drink tomorrow, maybe I'll go drinking 420 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:35,280 with you." 421 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,240 I know he's playing a 24-hour-a-day game with me. 422 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,920 He would get me to promise not to drink today, not to drink tonight. 423 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,840 I would go to sleep, hang up the phone, looking forward to taking a drink tomorrow. 424 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,800 And the reason to help me God that I've got 30 years is simply because I've never once 425 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,320 woken up, and I've been grateful I didn't get loaded the night before. 426 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,960 And I still haven't spent much time on that. 427 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:54,960 Oh, cool. 428 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:55,960 I'll tell you, well, thank you. 429 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:56,960 How Mike took me through the steps. 430 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,680 I had a problem with the God thing in the third step, and I didn't think he was available, 431 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:01,720 so that's all. 432 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,680 And Mike was really sweet and gentle, and he always asked me, he says, "Do you believe 433 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,280 that your attitude towards God today will be different a year from now?" 434 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:09,280 I said, "Yeah." 435 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:10,280 He says, "That's all we've got to talk about." 436 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,520 And I go, "Well, then you turn your will over," he says, "Turn your will over to the life 437 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:14,520 of this program. 438 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:19,680 Turn your life and the care of your will over to this program, and you'll experience the 439 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:20,680 evil." 440 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:21,680 I was able to do that. 441 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:22,680 It's always made sense to me. 442 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,480 It still makes sense to me today. 443 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,040 And I've always felt I've always been the third step once. 444 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:31,200 Every time I waver, instead of doing the third step again, I go back and I go, "Did I really 445 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,720 meet up when I said it back then 30 years ago?" because I haven't kept many words in 446 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:35,720 me. 447 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,720 I'm not the most unreliable person coming here. 448 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,200 And he was gentle and easy with me. 449 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,680 And this is the story that, I'll tell the story again. 450 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:49,080 My mom passed away in 2019, and I was a conservative from her state, and my brother died previously. 451 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:55,060 And so, my dad died in 2009, so all my mom's money was spent on my mom, every single penny 452 00:19:55,060 --> 00:19:56,060 other than mine. 453 00:19:56,060 --> 00:19:58,960 This is pretty good, because what I used to do for a living is basically wait for my parents 454 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,960 to go to sleep so I can go through their works. 455 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:01,960 And we were clean. 456 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:06,400 My brother, that litigation we had, I wish I could make an immense dream today that I 457 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:07,400 didn't back then. 458 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,200 So, if you're holding back on your immense, I get it. 459 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:11,200 I really do. 460 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:12,200 I don't. 461 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:13,200 Because I didn't get it. 462 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:14,200 Satisfaction. 463 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,880 I've been sending a letter to a grave site, and I wish I could talk to him now. 464 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:17,880 I can't. 465 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:18,880 It's the way it is. 466 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:19,880 My dad and I were pretty clean. 467 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:20,880 He had a dementia. 468 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:24,040 You can lose people, you know, mentally, before you lose them physically. 469 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,560 But when I talk about what A has done for me, it's really hard for me to say because 470 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:31,600 I don't live in a parallel universe, and when I was 20 months sober, it was the first time 471 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,480 I was ever asked to speak at a meeting, and I was nervous, and now I love doing this. 472 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,120 In fact, I'm the reason most of my meetings have a title. 473 00:20:38,120 --> 00:20:44,160 I was asked to speak at a meeting called Barney Street, and my uncle Jerry in Chicago had 474 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:48,080 cancer and my parents went back to Chicago to be with me in his final days. 475 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:52,120 My mom calls me on Friday night at about five, and she goes, "Jerry just died. 476 00:20:52,120 --> 00:20:55,400 He wanted you to come back and be a Paul man, so you're going to make an entrance to come 477 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:56,400 back. 478 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:57,400 The funeral is going to be Monday." 479 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:58,400 I call up my sponsor, Mike. 480 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,040 I say, "Can you speak for me?" 481 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,040 He says, "You can't do that." 482 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,440 I call up my eight brothers, "Can you speak for me?" 483 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,000 None of them can speak for me. 484 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,000 I go through with this. 485 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,360 I show up there at Barney Street, a guy named Ted Bracey was the secretary, he takes me 486 00:21:09,360 --> 00:21:10,360 out for dinner. 487 00:21:10,360 --> 00:21:11,920 I go, "How many people are going to be at this meeting?" 488 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:12,920 He goes, "About 500." 489 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,080 And now I can't keep it too talented. 490 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,080 "What are you going to have for dinner?" 491 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:18,080 "Water. 492 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:19,080 Water would be fine." 493 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:20,080 I get to Barney Street. 494 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,080 There's about the same amount of people there, is there? 495 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:23,080 That was all. 496 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:24,080 Twelve people there. 497 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,680 Four of them were people that I asked to speak for me, and they showed up just to watch me 498 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:27,680 make a fool of myself. 499 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,720 And then they stayed with me all Friday night. 500 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:34,200 Saturday, I went to a GSR function, I was an assistant GSR. 501 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,840 And Saturday is a Pacific Day meeting, and they stayed with me all night. 502 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:41,120 Sunday, they took me to the beach, took me to LAX to get me on a plane to Chicago. 503 00:21:41,120 --> 00:21:45,000 They gave me phone numbers to call, and I called people, and I was able to go back and 504 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,000 be with my family. 505 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:50,360 I didn't have to find a hooker so I could score some drugs, and I didn't make a fool 506 00:21:50,360 --> 00:21:51,360 of myself. 507 00:21:51,360 --> 00:21:53,680 I didn't have to share my opinions because I joined too much. 508 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,800 I was able just to be there and be a service to my dad who just lost his kid brother. 509 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,840 And for years, I shared how wonderful A's been to me because I would always carry you 510 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,480 through the rough times, and I was six years sober. 511 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,520 Again, Richard Levy, if I told this story, came up to me. 512 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:10,120 Richard's gone too, and he says, "That's a wonderful story, but you missed the whole 513 00:22:10,120 --> 00:22:11,120 point of it." 514 00:22:11,120 --> 00:22:12,120 I go, "What do you mean?" 515 00:22:12,120 --> 00:22:16,100 I'm grateful for A.M., grateful for the fellowship, and he goes, "When your mom called at five 516 00:22:16,100 --> 00:22:18,480 o'clock in the morning, you were able to answer the phone." 517 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:19,480 And that hit me. 518 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:24,400 In sober 30 years, I can't tell you how many amends I have not had to make simply because 519 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:25,800 I'm hanging out with you guys. 520 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:30,700 If I'm stuck on gratitude, and I'm one of those people I resent November, I'm not grateful. 521 00:22:30,700 --> 00:22:34,160 My sponsor asked me to do a gratitude list, and now I'm still just as pissed off, and 522 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,040 now I'm pissed off I'm not doing the gratitude list. 523 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,880 But I can always be grateful for the amends that I don't have to make just because I've 524 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:40,880 been here sitting with you guys. 525 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:41,880 And for that, I'm eternally grateful. 526 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:42,880 I'm done. 527 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:43,880 No, I'm done. 528 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:44,880 Thank you. 529 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:44,880 See you tonight.