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 That's what we got here, and we'll open up with, I'll help you through this one and the next time you'll have anything for us.

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 So meeting is called order. We didn't have any minutes sent from the last meeting.

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 Okay, so Nate, did you mention that you were going to...

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 Yeah, I'm going to work on it.

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 So we're in Leon.

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 I'm going to have minutes to you.

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 I'm not learning it.

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 Five days before is normal.

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 So we have to do a roll call, a secretary roll call.

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 Starting with Tuesday with Joe-Joe.

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 Joe-Joe? We did?

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 We generally do, yes.

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 Brad?

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 Brad?

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 Next up.

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 Next up.

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 All right, we have a fresh news report.

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 I'm sorry, Brad.

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 Can we finish the roll call?

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 Can we do a roll call?

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 You're covering for Joe?

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 Where is Joe-Joe?

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 Okay, no Joe-Joe.

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 Wednesday.

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 Second by Abe.

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 You would ask for discussion.

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 Any discussion?

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 You could ask.

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 That's the basic business.

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 Do you want to report anything, Billy, on the last meeting?

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 Anything from the last meeting?

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 Any of the old business?

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 Were we going to talk about the traditions for the phone list?

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 Qualifications?

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 You mentioned us reviewing our traditions.

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 I think we can do that if everyone's willing to stay for, I don't know, 30 minutes at a

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 time so we can actually go through them after we've conducted the normal business.

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 If not, we can kind of take the phone list as an item and we can probably nail it.

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 I think all of us pretty much agree, and then I'm happy to make a motion to speed things

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 up, that if you are attending a quality of life meeting on a regular basis, a meeting,

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 whatever that a meeting is, and you want to be in a phone list, you should be entitled

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 to be in that phone list.

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 That doesn't mean that we throw you a picnic and have a watch for you, but that you're

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 You get to declare whether your kids would be on it or not.

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 I think we were pretty much in consensus that for a regular tender, one that got sober here

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 generally, follow instructions when 90 and 90 goes to two meetings of quality of life

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 at least a week with commitments at those meetings.

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 And with the support of your sponsor at that point, you can bring forth a request for a

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 picnic or a watch, right?

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 And I think that I didn't see anyone objecting to that.

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 That's probably about as lenient as we can possibly get.

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 That's good.

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 But I still think it upholds our traditions.

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 I think it allows people to get on a list, okay?

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 I think it allows some of our other people that weren't able to before to be a part of

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 the family, which we need.

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 We need to grow the family.

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 And yet it does still put a requirement on newer people that want to have events, right?

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 So I'd like to make a motion that we change the criteria and I think we should have to

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 update our traditions, right?

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 Make a note of that.

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 And, Abe, you just said, so that's a great thing to do, Abe, and we're all grateful for

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 So I guess what I'm hearing is that we're not going to really have a traditions workshop

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 or meetings that if you review them and you have comments or suggestions for change, you

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 would get those and you would bring those to this meeting, right?

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 We who have access.

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 So they'll come to us.

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 All right.

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 Let me get to finish this part of the business and then let's continue that.

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 I'm going to make the motion, and we'll update it in the traditions permanently, that anyone

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 that comes to a quality of life meeting who wishes to go on the phone list can go on the

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 phone list.

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 And that picnics, parties, all of that will be subject to two quality of life meetings

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 with commitments at those meetings in support of their sponsor.

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 That's my motion.

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 Second that motion.

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 Any discussion on that?

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 Well, it's an interesting question because when we had meetings, say, we have business

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 meetings at all, but only quality of life members can participate in discussion and

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 So we're really saying two things.

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 The criteria for the phone list may be different than being a member of our group, okay?

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 Unless we want to basically say that you're a member of this group, if you're going to

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 have one meeting with a commitment, you can call yourself a member, we'll consider you

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 Will you accept that as a friendly amendment?

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 So that would define membership, define member, and vote list.

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 I think that's fine, guys.

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 Let's get over ourselves.

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 Not really.

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 The chairs, they rule 62 me.

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 All right.

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 Any other discussion?

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 You should be doing this, Billy, but I'm going to do it for you so we can get over this.

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 All in favor.

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 I'm making an announcement that I'm going to be organizing a 30-year birthday party

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 Hello, Susan.

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 Hi, Susan.

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 Hi, Susan.

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 My birthday is coming up from San Diego.

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 Oh, my.

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 Oh, I don't like it.

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 Hey, do you kind of suck?

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 I had a wish.

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 Now I've done the list.

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 With me number 26, I think it was.

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 Oh, is that right?

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 Let's see what it is.

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 1026 is Sue M's party.

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 I'm throwing it.

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 I'm coming to you for conventions.

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 Where is it?

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 Same shtick.

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 It'll be over at--

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 When we're at Dearborn, we can't have people from all over the world.

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 The chapters in other states join us.

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 Do we want to start thinking about doing those picnics here?

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 Of course, we'll have to talk to Victor.

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 This way, you can attend virtually, too, if you want to participate or--

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 No, that's not great.

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 No, it's just a thought, you know.

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 You don't have to worry about saving the park.

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 That, too.

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 That's--

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 Oh, that's a big one.

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 It's a little bit easier.

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 Oh, she's going to beat her things.

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 Okay, so why don't we just leave it at Dearborn Park.

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 I think if there was anything-- Oh, there's one other thing.

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 You know, our Tuesday night meeting has really launched well, okay?

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 There was a couple of things for the notes that I took.

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 Our meeting format is great.

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 We don't have a name, and the three names that we've arrived at, we should really decide,

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 so we can stick it in the format and get off the list.

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 "Living Sober."

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 This was through Shenzhen BT.

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 There were 30 of them.

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 We had them turned down for two weeks, and we came up with three.

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 "Living Sober," "Principles in Practice," or "Recovery Remix," unless you can think

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 But this is another name already.

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 So if we talk from Tuesday, we'll just get one.

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 John K. came up with "Recovery Remix," being the-- not the millennial-- the Gen Z.

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 The Gen Z.

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 The millennial.

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 Yeah, I'm a millennial.

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 I was born in India.

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 Hey, Bennett.

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 Bennett liked "Principles in Practice," right?

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 We've already had two meetings on Tuesday.

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 Let's figure it out tonight already.

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 Let's get it done.

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 I want to get the formats done and off my list.

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 If you are going to one meeting of Quality of Life with a commitment, and you call yourself

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 I mean, I understand what you're saying, Bennett.

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 I think we need to hang loose, and let's just change this for now.

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 Yeah, and then we'll have a fun time for someone to have a milestone picnic.

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 I think we'll all be able to get on the same page.

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 Right?

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 Getting back to the story of the Tuesday Night Meeting, there is one additional name that

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 came up tonight from Scott, and that was the Quality of Life Tuesday Night Taco.

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 Okay, so let's do a poll.

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 All in favor of the Quality of Life Taco Tuesday meeting of Alcoholics Night.

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 Okay, two, three, four, five.

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 Any others?

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 I can't see anyone else on Zoom.

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 Taco Tuesday?

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 Listen, if we're going to have fun, let's hustle.

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 Hi, you've got a great big taco.

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 It's going to be great.

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 Put a little taco next to it.

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 That's good.

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 I wonder if people are going to think that this is a bad time to share.

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 We can do some taco.

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 Yeah, I like it.

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 Anyone for recovery remix?

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 One for principles in practice?

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 I'll work for that one.

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 One, two, three, four, five.

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 Is that five?

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 Five.

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 Was that five?

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 Wait, did you count two?

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 Wait, back.

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 That was five.

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 One, two, three, four, five.

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 That's a tie.

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 No one for summer?

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 Okay, so let's...

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 I'm going to report.

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 Okay, round two.

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 Round two.

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 Principles of...

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 I mean, I don't know what I'm going to do.

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 Oh, Nancy's defected.

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 Nancy's defected.

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 Come on.

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 Come on.

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 We're going to go with principles in practice.

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 Hey.

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 I'm going to go to the H&I meeting with Billy.

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 I'll meet you there, Billy.

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 You mean the other group?

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 Huh?

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 The other group.

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 What did I say?

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 The other group.

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 You said H&I.

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 Oh, we probably need to find people interested to go in H&I.

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 We want to get out and bring people here.

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 It's like panels.

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 The next thing, and maybe we could talk about this at the next meeting, is Alex is working

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 on the flyers.

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 I've put up a few different drafts.

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 Ben suggested Alex take a stab at it.

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 Maybe we'll see that in this decade.

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 And what we need to do is we'll get engaged.

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 We need to...

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 Oh, there is one other thing.

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 David Figueroa.

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 No, I went to Central Office.

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 I had lunch with David.

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 We talked about all this.

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 So everything we're trying to do, he's 100% on board.

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 Okay?

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 And we know that Lucky and everyone working in recovery centers has been in great direction

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 in terms of how do we gain exposure.

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 Well, it means that we have to take some action.

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 And not just one person.

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 A bunch of us need to do it.

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 So what does that mean?

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 Going to Tarzana to pick up people.

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 Okay?

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 If you can do it, we need to get it done.

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 Going to H&I, that's how we get active on panels and people get to see us going to other

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 meetings.

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 One of those issues was the...

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 The whole of this guy had an Alkathon this last weekend, which David wanted to know.

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 If we were interested, I couldn't give him an answer because we need for the group to

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 talk about this.

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 In the past, we've been invited to Alkathons.

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 Sometimes with enough advanced notice, sometimes without.

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 Sometimes we were given flyers that said we were going to speak the next day.

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 We didn't even know about it.

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 Okay?

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 But in the case of...

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 And despite how we feel and arrived at the conclusion that we were being asked because

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 we were a large group, that brought a lot of seventh tradition fundraising to this Alkathon.

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 Okay?

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 That was a legitimate point.

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 But now we're small, trying to grow.

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 And the question is this.

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 Do we want to make ourselves available to go participate in Alkathons?

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 Because there's a lot of them out there.

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 Okay?

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 That's the only way people are going to get to know us.

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 We're going to get to meet other people, get to invite them to our meetings, and get on

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 the same roadmap that everyone else is on.

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 Okay?

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 There's lots of groups out there that are constantly having meetings in Alkathons and

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 are actively involved in a community.

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 We're not.

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 Okay?

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 So again, I'm happy to do as much as I can, but not just groups.

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 So the message is that you give us some thought.

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 I think what I'll do is I'll ask David to let us know about Alkathons as far in advance

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 as possible so we can talk about them.

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 Okay?

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 I don't know who can go pick up.

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 That's what Adam was talking about very seriously, and that was we need to go out and bring people

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 here.

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 Okay?

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 In the case of Lucky, he talked about van meetings.

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 So there's a way to reach out to these sober living facilities that have vans and the vans

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 take them to meetings.

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 We need to get on their list.

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 Okay?

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 So I'm happy to work with Lucky on that to find out who they are.

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 And once these flyers are created, I'm happy to go to a hole in the sky and do whatever

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 and stick it on their goddamn boards just like we have here.

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 Okay?

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 But amid central office, David said now that we've changed our format for Wednesday to

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 more than a 15 minute, you know, have a half a doughnut in the oven, that he's going to

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 send people to our meetings because they're actually a meeting and not just a 15 minute

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 social hour.

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 Okay?

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 If we're going to grow, this is what we have to do.

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 They can't be just one person.

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 The convention planning committee is another way, right?

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 Yeah.

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 The convention is great.

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 It's all about, yeah.

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 And your sisters, Nissi in particular, have done a great job of working at that convention

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 for years.

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 I mean, we did when we were together, but you continue to do it, including Lacy being

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 the convention chair.

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 I mean, and organizing the big go and doing all that stuff.

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 Yeah.

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 That's right.

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 We were sleeping on the floor during convention at two o'clock in the morning on security,

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 sleeping on couches.

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 Anyway, so give it some thought.

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 I understand everyone's busy, everyone works, everyone has a career, everyone has a family.

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 I sure the fuck did when I was early in sobriety too, and somehow I did it.

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 Okay?

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 So I will tell you that I'm personally committed to doing this, working with FID and bringing

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 back all the opportunities.

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 Okay?

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 But we should not be accepting what I think is we don't want to accept how good thought

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 invitations with three people.

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 We either shut up at four so we don't do it.

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 Okay?

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 Otherwise it's an embarrassment.

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 Yeah.

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 Okay?

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 So unless there's anything else, we can call the meeting and...

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 Motion opposed.

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 And with that, good evening.

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 Good luck.

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 Good luck.

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 Good luck.

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 Good luck.

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 Good luck.

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 Good luck.

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 Good luck.

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 Good luck.

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 Good luck.

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 Good luck.

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