1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,000 My name is Ken and I am an alcoholic. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:05,000 I'm Ken. 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:12,000 I'd like to thank the friends that came out tonight and I can thank God for the program 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,160 of Alcoholics Anonymous for my life today. 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,800 Literally owe it to this program. 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:23,920 My sobriety date is March 12th, 1994, just not my first one. 7 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:28,880 There's a story about me being two years old and my parents were having a party and 8 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:34,160 there were factories going around and I got ahold of one of them and I spun around in circles 9 00:00:34,160 --> 00:00:36,320 until I passed out. 10 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:37,320 That was two. 11 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:41,320 I grew up as a kid in a house, middle kid of three. 12 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,480 My dad was an airline pilot, grew up in Camarillo. 13 00:00:44,480 --> 00:00:50,400 My mom was a stay-at-home mom and I had a little brother with cerebral palsy that I 14 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:54,160 could put a weight on the house. 15 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,600 We always had that weight. 16 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:05,080 So my old man was a Navy pilot before he became an airline pilot and so his thing for relaxing 17 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:09,040 in the evenings was barbecuing and Jim Beam and Ginger Ale. 18 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:13,320 And I learned early that, you know, I can go get a little bit towards the end of that. 19 00:01:13,320 --> 00:01:16,920 Things get a little better for me as a five-year-old little kid. 20 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,120 That's just a good weight. 21 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,640 I can see the pressure come off when he did that. 22 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,960 I could use the pressure coming off, you know, from a very early age. 23 00:01:24,960 --> 00:01:29,200 I would spin around on a bar stool until I couldn't stand up. 24 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,320 That's where I wanted to be, exactly, except that I got sick, so I don't go too well. 25 00:01:33,320 --> 00:01:40,600 But always, always, whatever I could find growing up through that to take my head out 26 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:41,600 of the game. 27 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:48,600 I got in trouble in grade school because somebody brought a mixed jug of something from home 28 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:53,700 that they got out of their liquor cabinet and all these girls were going to share it. 29 00:01:53,700 --> 00:01:58,600 They wanted to tell me about it and they showed it to me and I drank it all. 30 00:01:58,600 --> 00:01:59,600 And they were mad. 31 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,080 So they ratted me out and I was lit. 32 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:07,320 I'm in the principal's office and I'm getting yelled at, you know, you tell my parents to 33 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:12,080 send me home and I just don't let them know you're drunk, you know, just so I got, I think 34 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:17,760 I got mindfully busted, but not as much as I should have with my dad and I knew. 35 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:23,080 So, you know, my story involves a lot of other things, but that's how everything started 36 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,440 on my problems starting in with drinking. 37 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,920 Every relapse I never had started with, you know what, I'm just going to have a beer, 38 00:02:30,920 --> 00:02:37,020 just a beer, or I'll smoke a little pot on the weekend, it'll be fine. 39 00:02:37,020 --> 00:02:42,680 So there it is, you know, high school started and I got turned into marijuana earlier, which 40 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,280 was easier to get than alcohol for a kid my age at that time. 41 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,440 So that became my thing. 42 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:49,960 And of course I was chewing tobacco. 43 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,520 I got busted chewing tobacco at nine years old. 44 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:58,400 You know, I was smoking early on, I had to buy my first pack of cigarettes the day my 45 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:04,080 dad quit smoking and I was 13 because I couldn't steal anything anymore. 46 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:08,400 So it's just, it was something, you know, once I was smoking or dipping or whatever 47 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:14,920 it was that it's something to take the edge off and it's always been that way. 48 00:03:14,920 --> 00:03:21,080 I went to my first 12 step meeting at 16, because I thought I might have a problem doing 49 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,280 cocaine, which I did. 50 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:28,640 I got arrested at 18, fresh out of high school, just because I was in the wrong neighborhood 51 00:03:28,640 --> 00:03:30,720 because I was. 52 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,880 So that that led my first trip to my first rehab. 53 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:39,200 So I got out of my first rehab on Memorial Day in 1988 and moved into the Kepra house 54 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:40,200 up in Ventura. 55 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:45,480 I spent six months in the halfway house and I got a job sort of working in the oil fields. 56 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:50,880 And then I started doing alcoholic math because, you know, I don't know about you, but when 57 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,880 I was in school, I didn't study, I didn't do my homework. 58 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:59,760 I crammed before the class to the next class and I would take the test and I would get 59 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:00,760 by fairly well. 60 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,160 Just, you know, I always took shortcuts. 61 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:08,200 I always took shortcuts and I thought doing it all, following all the rules, you know, 62 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,500 it's for suckers, you know, it's for other people. 63 00:04:10,500 --> 00:04:15,680 I mean, I, I wanted to skip to the end and think, you know, can we just straight line 64 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:20,160 it and be done with that and move on to the next thing because I need to go have a cigarette 65 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,960 or, you know, smoke a little something in the bathroom or. 66 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,720 So there was a lot of near misses along that line of stuff. 67 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:32,240 You know, I got smoke in my freshman year, I got smoke in my senior year. 68 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:38,160 But my senior year, my principal just yelled at me for bombing cigarettes from underclassmen. 69 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:45,440 Told me if I really needed one come see him, just graduate, go away. 70 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,880 So anyways, back to the rest, Kepper House and my alcoholic math. 71 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:53,240 So I would do the first three steps on the wall and I would agree with all of them. 72 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,000 No, no, no on that fourth one up there. 73 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:02,280 And then, then I would get a job and I'd start making some money and, and you know, I'd go 74 00:05:02,280 --> 00:05:03,280 to some meetings. 75 00:05:03,280 --> 00:05:07,440 We could go into meetings, I get a job, I'm living in a halfway house and then I find 76 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:11,120 a power greater than myself and her name was. 77 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:17,160 And as long as those then, you know, I would say cocaine is the problem. 78 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,840 And I'm just going to have, you know, a couple of beers and smoke a little weed. 79 00:05:20,840 --> 00:05:23,040 It'll be, you know, just take the edge off. 80 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:29,260 But as soon as I did that and the inhibitions came down, you know, it was just that much 81 00:05:29,260 --> 00:05:33,560 easier for me to go, you know, I'm already here. 82 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,320 And then the next justification would happen and, you know, at some point I would be a 83 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:38,320 resident in recovery. 84 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:39,320 It was possible. 85 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:44,080 But the whole kind of how it, how it went up the second treatment program I was in after 86 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:48,200 that kind of went away, I ended up going to one with my parents. 87 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:52,680 It was a place called be free up in thousand Oaks and it was for young adults that were 88 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:53,680 having trouble. 89 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:58,720 And it was a kind of a group therapy thing where the parents did therapy and the problems 90 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:00,880 that they're in the other room. 91 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:06,360 And yeah, there were some AA base to it and quilt and then encourage going to meetings 92 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:07,360 and that was really good. 93 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:12,160 And I was doing that and then I got rehired again on another way of plot warm. 94 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:18,040 So once again, I am making money and I'm doing good and staying sober and everything is just 95 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:19,280 working out great. 96 00:06:19,280 --> 00:06:20,280 Right. 97 00:06:20,280 --> 00:06:25,160 Um, I successfully completed probation off of the first thing and that all went away 98 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:26,160 and just disappeared. 99 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:30,860 And, uh, and then I started taking my therapy. 100 00:06:30,860 --> 00:06:33,520 Once again, we are doing the math that I'm doing. 101 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:39,360 I am making money and I found my heart power and, and even worse now it's a secret because 102 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:40,360 that's more fun. 103 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,880 Um, but I can't tell anybody that I'm going to meetings with who I'm dating. 104 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,960 So I basically shut down my entire support system. 105 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:47,960 Right. 106 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:49,560 So all that's got to go away. 107 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:54,440 So now I am completely and totally untreated and hope by the way, one, two, three hike 108 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,320 because we need to do number four. 109 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:00,760 There's no sponsor in here because you know, I'm smarter than the average bear and not 110 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:01,760 a good recipe. 111 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,680 I want to do the first three steps and they'll do the fourth and the fifth and forth with 112 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,960 a sponsor actually do all of that. 113 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,840 You know, you're listening because it gets worse. 114 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:16,960 Um, so, uh, so that happened, uh, things went bad with her at all was horrible. 115 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:23,400 I ended up in a cross country motor home trip as a designated driver to Laughlin with a 116 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,200 motor home full of oil bill workers. 117 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:30,920 And uh, and there were some things in the back of the motor home that were transpiring 118 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,800 and I decided, sure, I'm going to have a little of that. 119 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,600 So now I'm on a run in Laughlin. 120 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:42,080 I'm afraid that if I don't have a drink before I go from one casino to the next, then I'm 121 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:46,360 going to sober up in between and we all know once you start sobering up, so the hangover 122 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:47,360 hits. 123 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,040 Uh, so you can't do that. 124 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:54,960 Um, so once you get off to the races and that ends me up with a getting called in and asking 125 00:07:54,960 --> 00:08:01,120 me by the department of transportation, if I have a prescription for me, um, cause I 126 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:07,200 came up dirty on the D O T drug test oil file form and uh, put me in another rehab of the 127 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,760 Ventura trying to save my job. 128 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:15,320 And I, uh, I did that and they tried to give me a bunch of, uh, segments when I went in 129 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:21,040 there and I kept asking, Hey, there was a really good stream value and how did those 130 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:22,040 smoke? 131 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:27,720 And, uh, I don't really think giving me more drugs is the answer, um, to any of this. 132 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:32,280 So they brought me in and then the guy that was in recovery and we just started to get 133 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:33,280 sober. 134 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:37,440 Um, I seem to think I knew way too much about the program at the time and didn't do what 135 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:38,440 they said. 136 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:43,200 Still thought I knew what I was doing and I got loaded, uh, I think two weeks out of 137 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:49,520 that rehab under the guys, I would just have a couple of beers on the weekend and I would 138 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,680 be done on Monday, go back to work. 139 00:08:52,680 --> 00:08:58,520 Eventually I couldn't go to work anymore cause I couldn't test clean, so I had to stop going. 140 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,560 Uh, meanwhile I lost a house. 141 00:09:01,560 --> 00:09:04,980 I break down all the relationships with my parents. 142 00:09:04,980 --> 00:09:09,560 I ended up living in the back of 70 Dodge Dart smashed in the front of the passenger 143 00:09:09,560 --> 00:09:17,000 door to the rear bumper and uh, I had warrants in Ventura County, so I met a nice girl from 144 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:22,880 that V3 program and we lived in Agora and she took me in off the streets and started 145 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:28,640 taking me to games down here, valley, Davis, Oliva, and she saved my life and she introduced 146 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:35,000 me to some people up at the Topanga fireside meeting and down at St. Mel's Friday night 147 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:36,000 book study. 148 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:42,760 And I was sitting in there loaded and I was listening to her read to begin to get me and 149 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:48,460 they talked rarely have we seen a person fail who is thoroughly followed our path. 150 00:09:48,460 --> 00:09:50,160 That's one thing I had not done here. 151 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:56,000 I had not done thoroughly called path and work on steps, have a sponsor to get on instead 152 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,440 of me to the old heel. 153 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:02,480 Um, so of course during all that whole time I planned to get sober for new year's. 154 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,000 That's why my sobriety day's March. 155 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:16,200 I remember hearing a guy named Rick Chevy take a cake for 10 years and uh, he was talking 156 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:20,640 about his experience and I had to listen to him in this book study for some weeks then 157 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:25,040 and I finally realized that maybe just maybe I can give this a shot. 158 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:30,560 So uh, I made the right decision two days after that to not buy any more pot between 159 00:10:30,560 --> 00:10:35,560 meetings and that was my first first day sober during that time. 160 00:10:35,560 --> 00:10:40,640 A couple of weeks after that I was leaving that book study on a Friday night stop by 161 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:45,120 to see one of my friends growing up who was closing down a liquor store because that's 162 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,040 what he worked and I was telling him about how good I was doing. 163 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:52,240 I hadn't had any big look at my back pocket with the highlights in it that I'd been taking 164 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,680 it to being bad about two weeks sober. 165 00:10:54,680 --> 00:11:01,160 And I love the camera rail on Centro Boulevard with blue stations down the street from the 166 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:02,160 liquor store. 167 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:06,640 And three patrol cars go to the exhibit by like they're going back to the station and 168 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,680 they're going, "Yeah man, all good. 169 00:11:08,680 --> 00:11:13,040 You know good stuff that those guys when they come back and talk to me they'll be fine." 170 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:14,040 They did. 171 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:19,400 They took me that night because I had a warrant because one of my stubers, I thought it was 172 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:24,360 really good to transpose a couple of house numbers on the uh, address when I was reporting 173 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:28,720 again and they were sending the notices of failure to appear to the next door neighbors 174 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:34,120 and they weren't bothering to send them over so I didn't know I had a warrant the way I 175 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,720 went with my big book on my back pocket. 176 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:41,600 But hey successful that night I didn't pick up any new charges right? 177 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,960 So there you go small, small things. 178 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:50,960 So um, I had to go clean up the wreckage of my past and I had a guy that his name was 179 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:55,940 an unblocked head of step study at his house on Wednesday nights at the time and I'm in 180 00:11:55,940 --> 00:12:01,600 Ventura County jail doing 60 days or do a 90 day sentence he let me out at 60 and he 181 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:06,640 let me call into his step study meeting collect on Wednesday nights and he looked at the speed 182 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:12,080 book and that's what I did when I was in jail and then I got out for two weeks on bail before 183 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:13,080 my next charge. 184 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:18,440 Um, this is all under damn for this type of stuff and uh, and I had to go back to work 185 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:23,240 furlough of the camera reel and I was one of the only ones that would read chapter five 186 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:27,560 or chapter three and then 12 traditions at the start of the meetings that the panels 187 00:12:27,560 --> 00:12:32,440 brought in to work furlough and uh, did that for another nine days. 188 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:39,840 Uh, then I did a lot of meetings, my first 10 years I was uh, you know, the book study 189 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:47,360 on Friday night was my uh, my home group and we, we got after that and then the best highlighters 190 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:53,660 intellectual rules, lots of dictionaries and we just tore up that first hundred 64 pages. 191 00:12:53,660 --> 00:12:59,900 We did that for years and years, um, commercial Saturday night from the dawn, uh, Topanga 192 00:12:59,900 --> 00:13:03,160 fireside was a regular app for many, many years. 193 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:07,060 I had a sponsor, his name was Paul Johnson and uh, and things were going good. 194 00:13:07,060 --> 00:13:12,760 You know, I had relationships, uh, my current wife, I had dated before we broke up and I 195 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:13,760 changed jobs. 196 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:19,640 I was working as a mechanic, oil field, and uh, I was a starving to death as a mechanic, 197 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:23,760 so I decided I would go back to school for electronics, learn something about it because 198 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:25,880 the electronics in the cars are baffling me. 199 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:31,200 So I did that and I got out of school and uh, went to work in the medical field as a 200 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:32,680 violinist at a hospital. 201 00:13:32,680 --> 00:13:37,040 Your circumstances about that time as I'm getting ready to graduate, I reunite with 202 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:42,200 my, my now kernel wife, I'm dating and things are going good and I'm still going to a bunch 203 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:47,520 of meetings and I finished school at the top of my class and I got the new job and two 204 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:52,180 weeks into that new job, they handed me the keys to the narcotics pumps and said, you're 205 00:13:52,180 --> 00:13:56,240 going to be doing maintenance on these IV pumps to deliver the medication. 206 00:13:56,240 --> 00:14:00,980 And I just went, no, these people can't know me, they can't know my past, they'll never 207 00:14:00,980 --> 00:14:01,980 trust me. 208 00:14:01,980 --> 00:14:02,980 So now I'm pulling. 209 00:14:02,980 --> 00:14:03,980 Is that me? 210 00:14:03,980 --> 00:14:04,980 Nope. 211 00:14:04,980 --> 00:14:05,980 Nope. 212 00:14:05,980 --> 00:14:06,980 Okay. 213 00:14:06,980 --> 00:14:11,960 So that's, um, I had to kind of pull in my program there, you know? 214 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:16,080 I think things quiet and I want everybody to know what's going on with that. 215 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:21,160 So my, uh, my outside life kind of became a secret in my work life. 216 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:28,880 That's the start of some, you know, some stuff, um, I sponsored after nine years, I got colon 217 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:29,880 cancer and died. 218 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,400 Uh, it was a big time for me. 219 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:36,720 I was still dating my wife who used to wear this big shirt that said, don't marry, be 220 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:37,720 happy. 221 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:42,360 And, uh, and here I am, I'm, I'm advancing in my career. 222 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:46,120 I'm moving out of, uh, uh, the biomed field inside the hospitals. 223 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:52,480 I'm going to move over to imaging, work on CT scanners and MRIs, more money, more responsibility, 224 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:53,480 different stuff. 225 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,200 And I'm looking to go settle down. 226 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:59,040 So I'm, I tell my wife, we've got a breakup and you don't want to get married. 227 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,200 And I do, I want to go buy a house and settle down and do this. 228 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:03,600 So we're going to do that. 229 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,640 We're at my sponsor's funeral. 230 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,120 She's completely torn up over this thing. 231 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:09,120 I'm a mess. 232 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:14,320 And, uh, and I'm burying my sponsor and I don't do anything about it. 233 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:15,320 I'll go get a new one. 234 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,000 I got to go to a bunch of meetings. 235 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:18,000 Sure. 236 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:19,000 I'm going to stay doing that. 237 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,480 I'm going to hang out with the people that know me, you know, the, the Rick Shevit, uh, 238 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:26,480 Tom O'Brien, Tom Blount, the people at the book study, you know, I'm still there, but, 239 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,640 uh, you know, things are changing. 240 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:33,160 Um, me and my, my girlfriend, wife, we get back together. 241 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,000 We decided maybe we're going to do this. 242 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,400 She comes to a thing that maybe marrying me isn't going to be horrible. 243 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:43,580 Um, thank God it wasn't, um, but, uh, so that's going better. 244 00:15:43,580 --> 00:15:44,580 We're getting back together. 245 00:15:44,580 --> 00:15:45,580 I shouldn't have a sponsor. 246 00:15:45,580 --> 00:15:49,760 I just don't have a sponsor, but I got a job, job with more responsibility, job that works 247 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:50,760 evenings and afternoon. 248 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,840 So that's, that's kind of rough because now I'm working from noon to nine and all those 249 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,440 meetings that I wasn't regular at, I can't get to anymore unless I'm cutting work. 250 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:02,000 So I'm trying to substitute one in one there and once in a while I'm showing up at the 251 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,560 valley club at noon sometime. 252 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:07,880 You know, I'm still trying to, you know, do the right thing, do the right stuff, but I'm, 253 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,520 I'm not a regular part of AA anymore. 254 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:16,120 This is a tale of, you know, for you guys to learn, this is not the way to do it. 255 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,720 This is not an example about it to work your program. 256 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:25,160 So for, um, 10 years, these 10 years, that's what I was doing working nights. 257 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:30,680 I was going maybe three meetings a month and I was just standing sober and I wasn't doing 258 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:31,680 anything. 259 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,800 I wasn't really talking to people in the program much. 260 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:38,280 I was fishing with my friends and doing things and you know, going to parties with other 261 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:42,440 people and my wife and they're all drinking and they go, Oh, well now I know I'm doing 262 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:43,440 it. 263 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:44,440 So I just don't drink. 264 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,600 I actually had a dear friend of mine that came and spoke here a couple of weeks ago. 265 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:52,480 Um, he was having some trouble with, uh, with drinking and he reached out to me and he wanted 266 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:56,760 to go to a meeting and I took him to his first meeting and I introduced him to some people 267 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:01,760 that did the Saturday night commercial and I am listening to some people and said, you 268 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,620 need to do what that guy's doing and what that guy's doing and what that guy's doing. 269 00:17:05,620 --> 00:17:06,620 Don't do what I'm doing. 270 00:17:06,620 --> 00:17:10,960 You'll never make it if you're doing it when I'm doing what I do because I'm barely making 271 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:11,960 it. 272 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:13,440 Well, and you'll never make it doing this. 273 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:18,840 And he did, he picked on some good examples, became a regular over at the Valley Club and 274 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,640 got a sponsor and it's going to be great for him. 275 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,200 I was dying on the line. 276 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,360 I was dying on the line and didn't even know it. 277 00:17:26,360 --> 00:17:27,360 You know what I'm saying? 278 00:17:27,360 --> 00:17:30,600 It's like you put a frog in the water and you start turning it up to heat, they don't 279 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:31,600 even know they're boiling. 280 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,360 I had no idea I was boiling. 281 00:17:33,360 --> 00:17:38,400 The book study that I was a regular at was down to like six or eight people. 282 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,280 It was just, it was a dying meeting. 283 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,800 It wasn't, you know, it wasn't a bunch of newcomers who weren't, you know, spreading 284 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:44,800 the message. 285 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:45,800 I wasn't helping. 286 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:46,800 I wasn't doing any of that stuff. 287 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,060 They talked about working with others, doing none of that. 288 00:17:50,060 --> 00:17:53,580 It was all about can getting his, you know, what about mine? 289 00:17:53,580 --> 00:17:56,640 And my alcoholism was coming down in different ways. 290 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:01,320 You know, most people don't understand when I say that anything worth doing is worth doing 291 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:02,320 until it kills. 292 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:08,280 Because they don't have that let's take it to the nth degree drive in them, which I was 293 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:14,560 doing house projects, whatever it was, I would kind of overshoot the mark with my alcohol. 294 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:20,520 And then sometime before COVID, almost six or eight months, I got turned on to go into 295 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,760 the, I made a change in my life. 296 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:28,300 I started doing martial arts and some other things on the weekends, and then made a change 297 00:18:28,300 --> 00:18:31,680 to actually do more martial art training, sort of working a day shift. 298 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,120 So I'll be like, yeah, I'll go to war meetings. 299 00:18:34,120 --> 00:18:37,640 We're married by then for several years, I've got a house and everything's looking really 300 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:38,640 good on the outside. 301 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,040 And I said, yeah, you know, I'll go to some war meetings. 302 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,600 I'm going to get invited to this Wednesday night men's stat and I'm sitting there in 303 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,360 the back and they're reading, working with others. 304 00:18:47,360 --> 00:18:51,360 And I realizing that there's all this stuff these guys are doing in the program of Alcoholics 305 00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:54,720 Anonymous and I'm doing it and not working with newcomers. 306 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:59,320 In fact, I don't even have anything I can give a newcomer because I've been crispy and 307 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:00,320 dry for so long. 308 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,600 I don't even know if I could take it back to the steps. 309 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:07,520 So I'm just starting to get good with that and go on to war meetings and becoming a regular 310 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:08,520 to commit visit meetings. 311 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:12,860 I'm doing all the stuff that I used to do when I was in and my life is getting better. 312 00:19:12,860 --> 00:19:13,860 And then COVID hits. 313 00:19:13,860 --> 00:19:18,680 And I kept this one guy kept asking me if I wanted to attend the steps study and I kept 314 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,920 telling him, you know, I'm busy on Thursday nights. 315 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:22,440 COVID fixed that for me. 316 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,660 I was no longer busy on Thursday nights. 317 00:19:24,660 --> 00:19:28,640 I was completely and a hundred percent available and that steps study meeting was on. 318 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:35,380 So I did have a lot of stress going on during that time because I was still in the hospitals 319 00:19:35,380 --> 00:19:38,680 because I work on medical equipment during the whole COVID thing. 320 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:39,680 I have elderly parents. 321 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:45,760 I have a handicap little brother who has since passed and I kept worrying that I was going 322 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:50,360 to be the guy that was going to take the COVID to his nursing home, swipe everybody out. 323 00:19:50,360 --> 00:19:53,040 So that was a little bit stressful. 324 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,840 So I doubled down on my AA program. 325 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,700 I had 25 years sobriety, did steps all over again. 326 00:19:59,700 --> 00:20:04,600 And I did them from the viewpoint of I need to write all this stuff down so that I can 327 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:09,000 take somebody else through the steps and use it as a sponsor guide. 328 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,080 And that's what I did. 329 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:17,300 I started a meeting where we get on Zoom every morning. 330 00:20:17,300 --> 00:20:22,160 We do the third step prayer, we read a daily reflection from the night before, do the seventh 331 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:23,160 step prayer. 332 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:28,680 We go through the 24 hour day for today and then we do the St. Francis prayer and it takes 333 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:29,680 us 10 minutes. 334 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:33,440 It's the best 10 minutes of my day, absolutely every day and we're doing that seven days 335 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:34,440 a week. 336 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:38,360 This is my fifth week this week so things have changed. 337 00:20:38,360 --> 00:20:42,540 Since that time, I am a hundred percent all in for AA. 338 00:20:42,540 --> 00:20:47,440 I got to sitting in that meeting when I was coming back and I was realizing what I wasn't 339 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,440 doing and what was lacking in my life. 340 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:57,160 My happiest time in my life was my first 10 years of sobriety and work in my life at that 341 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:01,080 time was that thing I had to do between meetings. 342 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,960 Once I reset my priorities, I put that on the back burner. 343 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,040 Now work is that thing I do before I go to the meeting. 344 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:09,840 But the goal is always going to the meeting. 345 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:14,800 I don't know about you, but I start feeling better as soon as I point the car at the meeting. 346 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,240 I know it's going that direction. 347 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:21,280 I started getting that same ease of comfort I used to get when I was going to the bar, 348 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:22,280 the connect. 349 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:23,280 8 minutes. 350 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:24,280 8 minutes. 351 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:25,280 Looking alike. 352 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:30,320 So let's talk about the good stuff that I have in my life that AA is good. 353 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:35,200 I have a wife that's been married to for 20 years and she still likes me. 354 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:36,200 That's something good. 355 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:42,120 That means I haven't destroyed that relationship with alcohol for 21 years or given her a reason 356 00:21:42,120 --> 00:21:43,780 to hold the grudge. 357 00:21:43,780 --> 00:21:47,520 So I'm doing the right thing when it comes to that. 358 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:53,600 I have a house and a career and all the other cash and prizes that you get when you don't 359 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:54,600 drink them away. 360 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,320 So I have a host of friends. 361 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,480 Some of them came up to see me tonight and thank you for that. 362 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:05,200 I have a community within this program of ours that I wouldn't trade for the world. 363 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,980 I've actually decided what retirement looks like for me. 364 00:22:07,980 --> 00:22:10,440 I'm going to be furniture at Clubhouse. 365 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,200 So I'm going to be, I'm going to be that guy that's always up in the house because why 366 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:14,200 not? 367 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,200 This is where magic happens. 368 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,360 I don't see why. 369 00:22:18,360 --> 00:22:22,800 Before I got here, I told you about living in the back of that car when I was dying in 370 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,180 the back of that car. 371 00:22:24,180 --> 00:22:25,180 I was semi-psychotic. 372 00:22:25,180 --> 00:22:27,520 I was 20 pounds underweight. 373 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,720 I wasn't even going crazy. 374 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,200 It was just, it was not good. 375 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:38,360 But you know, it's something about being fond of accelerates when you add that to your alcohol 376 00:22:38,360 --> 00:22:41,320 and it really helps you hit bottom faster and add speed. 377 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:42,800 It's a big balance for that. 378 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,080 I guess we'll start talking about the steps. 379 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,280 So I actually think I'm going to end this stuff. 380 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,740 I want to thank you so much for having me come out. 381 00:22:50,740 --> 00:22:55,780 I am so sorry I couldn't get some more time out, but I think that's the important part. 382 00:22:55,780 --> 00:23:00,600 Which the best thing about doing this thing is please, please, please be all in. 383 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:01,600 Be all in. 384 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:02,600 Do it all. 385 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:03,600 Just go to the conventions. 386 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:04,600 Hang out with the new people. 387 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,480 One of my favorite things to do, I'm the secretary of a meeting. 388 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:13,320 I spend more time standing up front, shaking hands in the way of the door outside. 389 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:14,320 It's being a breeder. 390 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,320 It's one of the best people to get to know everyone. 391 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:17,320 It's comfortable. 392 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:18,320 It's underappreciated. 393 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:19,320 So thank you so much, guys. 394 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:20,320 And that's enough. 395 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:21,320 I'm leaving. 396 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:22,320 Thanks. 397 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:22,320 Bye.