1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,000 Hi, my name is Ryan Paulie, I'm an alcoholic. 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:03,000 I'm Ryan. 3 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,880 This Friday date is 1-2-2-1-1. 4 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:11,200 I have a sponsor who has a sponsor, a sponsor, I got a sponsee, and he made it! 5 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:12,200 All right? 6 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:13,200 Oh, man. 7 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:20,960 I gotta be honest with you guys, I was digging for the bottom of the barrel here, I've been 8 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:27,420 very active in Alcoholics Anonymous in a number of years, so I'm gonna do my best to try to 9 00:00:27,420 --> 00:00:32,000 share my experience, strength, and hope on what it was like, what happened, what happened, 10 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:33,920 and what it's like now. 11 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:38,560 I was born in... my old sponsor used to say, "Don't say it, don't start like that." 12 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,480 I was born in Washington in 1984. 13 00:00:42,480 --> 00:00:49,960 I lived in probably 27 houses in my childhood, it was, I guess we're nomads, so to speak. 14 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:55,680 Mama was running from something, not exactly sure what it was, but eventually we landed 15 00:00:55,680 --> 00:01:00,480 in LA County, Willing Hills area, and I had arrived. 16 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,920 I found my home, the place that I wanted to be. 17 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:10,160 I always felt a little bit weird growing up because I'd look around and I'd see all these 18 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:17,640 happy families and people, homes that were put together, and there was always chaos at 19 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:18,640 night. 20 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:19,640 There was chaos. 21 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:24,960 Mom always had another guy coming around and there was drinking and whatever else was going 22 00:01:24,960 --> 00:01:26,000 on inside the house. 23 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,120 So it was funny, I was thinking about it just the other day. 24 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:36,080 My actual first drink, I remember husband two or three, or was it two into three, anyways. 25 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:42,560 Yeah, mom was married a couple of times, but I remember being here in LA and it was 4th 26 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:49,480 of July and they were drinking and they thought it would be cute to give kids a little shot. 27 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,920 So they gave us a shot of root beer schnapps. 28 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,080 And I'll never forget this. 29 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,160 I remember taking a shot of root beer schnapps. 30 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,780 I hadn't been like, I don't know, and something like that. 31 00:01:59,780 --> 00:02:04,520 And the first thing that came out of my mouth after I guzzled that down was I can have more, 32 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:05,520 right? 33 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:06,760 Can have more. 34 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,160 And that's kind of how my drinking went. 35 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:10,320 Can I have more? 36 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:17,400 I identify as an alcoholic because alcohol brought me to my knees, right? 37 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,300 That's what brought me to my knees. 38 00:02:19,300 --> 00:02:29,080 I do like the smell of health side issues and I like to see colors so I can definitely 39 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:30,080 identify. 40 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:34,000 But yeah, I remember when I was first in my first sober living walking down the street, 41 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,640 not trying to understand like, what is going on here? 42 00:02:37,640 --> 00:02:38,700 What's happening? 43 00:02:38,700 --> 00:02:43,880 And one of the roommates looked at me and he's like, because I was going to CAA, I was 44 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:48,080 going to NA, I was going to AA, I was just trying to figure out what you guys were doing, 45 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,720 what was all about, and he looked at me and he's like, Brian, every time you're doing 46 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:56,600 cocaine or, you know, tripping on acid or eating mushrooms or doing whatever you were 47 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,880 doing, what were you thinking about? 48 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,400 What were you thinking about the entire time you were doing other things? 49 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:06,440 And I started to think, I'm like, uh, he's like, I'll tell you what you're thinking about. 50 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:07,440 You're thinking about drinking, weren't you? 51 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,320 And I was like, no, you're right, you're right, you're right. 52 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:15,360 Whatever I was doing was trying to lengthen the amount of time that I could stay awake 53 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:16,880 and continue to drink, right? 54 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:18,160 That's how I got down. 55 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,680 You know, I was an atheist punk that just didn't care. 56 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,400 I had a real good time. 57 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:27,240 And you know, there was nothing you could do to get me to believe in anything other 58 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,440 than, you know, anarchy, right? 59 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:31,440 That was it. 60 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:32,440 Anarchy. 61 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:33,440 That's all I knew. 62 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:39,820 And, you know, growing up, it was, we had a good time and high school was a wonderful, 63 00:03:39,820 --> 00:03:44,020 wonderful place to find anything you want, believe it or not, right? 64 00:03:44,020 --> 00:03:49,200 Anything you wanted and I indulged, right? 65 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:55,780 So fast forward, you know, it got to a point where got a couple of DUIs accidentally, right? 66 00:03:55,780 --> 00:04:01,440 You know, I tried to try to not drive or get a license because all of my friends had license 67 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:09,360 and they could drive and I could proceed to do whatever I wanted and not have to be responsible, 68 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:10,360 right? 69 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,600 I have to be responsible for my actions or activities. 70 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:17,120 So I got to just be a lay down drunk or whatever, right? 71 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:18,120 All the time. 72 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,600 And then once, as soon as I, the funniest thing, right? 73 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:27,320 As soon as I got a license, I just happened to get a DUI, right? 74 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:32,640 You know, the curb, you know, crept up on me and crashed my car and the police found 75 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:33,960 me and gave me a DUI. 76 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:39,800 So then went to a DUI class and I remember sitting there talking about all this stuff, 77 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,600 all these things about, you know, alcoholism. 78 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:48,160 They kind of talk a lot about that kind of stuff and the effect of drugs and alcohol 79 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:52,800 that it has on a person's, you know, not only mental, but physical. 80 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,840 And I remember this little old lady, she accidentally got a DUI. 81 00:04:56,840 --> 00:05:01,600 I'm not certain what exactly what the circumstances were, or I didn't really pay attention, but 82 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:06,780 there was one thing that called out to me, she's like, and then there are those two that 83 00:05:06,780 --> 00:05:13,360 are incapable of being honest with themselves and they have no remorse. 84 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,440 And I remember she's like, is there anyone like that in this room? 85 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,960 I remember raising my hand said, excuse me. 86 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,080 Yeah, I don't give a fuck. 87 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:23,080 That's it. 88 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:24,080 I just don't care. 89 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:25,200 I did what I did. 90 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:26,200 I drank what I drank. 91 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,980 I'm going to continue to drink even though I have this. 92 00:05:28,980 --> 00:05:29,980 And I did. 93 00:05:29,980 --> 00:05:30,980 And I did. 94 00:05:30,980 --> 00:05:34,240 And then I promptly got a second DUI while I was in DUI class. 95 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:40,240 I had one more class left and then I go in there and go, Hey, you know, it's my last 96 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:41,240 class. 97 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:42,240 I got another DUI. 98 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:46,440 They're like, Oh, well, by the way, since you got another DUI, this is your last class. 99 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:47,880 It's not really going to count. 100 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,380 And now you're going to have to do an 18 month program. 101 00:05:50,380 --> 00:05:53,560 I was like, Oh, well, it's a long time. 102 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:59,440 So that's a long time to commit to something, you know, the cool thing was about the DUI 103 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:08,880 class is that there was a bar right next door, right next door. 104 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:15,760 So I ran, my lady at the time was here in LA, she was going to school and so I split. 105 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,620 She was going to set up shop and, you know, I split. 106 00:06:19,620 --> 00:06:24,960 So technically I was wanted by the police for, you know, I'm taking care of the UIs, 107 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:25,960 right? 108 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:26,960 I didn't do my community service. 109 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:27,960 I didn't clean my fines. 110 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:28,960 I took off. 111 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:34,120 And then over the next five years, I was basically walking on eggshells around, just make sure 112 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,360 I follow the rules, I didn't get caught by the police, right? 113 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:44,400 So I, I just kind of hid away and we proceeded to have, I don't know if it was fun, but we 114 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,400 definitely did a lot of things. 115 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:53,760 And it came down to a point where it got so bad that we had a knockdown drag out fight 116 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:54,760 me and her. 117 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:59,540 And I knew things weren't ever going to be the same, I'm not proud of it, it happened. 118 00:06:59,540 --> 00:07:03,720 And she told me to leave and I had already been like four or five forties bold English 119 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,360 need. 120 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:09,900 And I knew she had, she had gone through some surgery or something, so she had some bottles 121 00:07:09,900 --> 00:07:10,900 of pills. 122 00:07:10,900 --> 00:07:17,760 So she had flex roll and old tramp and a bottle of flex roll and the bottle of old tramp and 123 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:25,100 which I've switched it down with the rest of my 40 and I'll never forget that, that feeling 124 00:07:25,100 --> 00:07:31,160 of being completely comfortable with not being on this plane of existence any longer. 125 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:37,400 I'll never forget that it still gives me chills just thinking about the taste of those crunched 126 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:43,360 up pills as I was walking out that door knowing that I was going to perish and that was it. 127 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,840 I was no longer to be on this plane of existence. 128 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,760 And so the police found me face down at a bus stop with respiratory failure. 129 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,760 And if I just would have laid behind a dumpster, it would have been done. 130 00:07:54,760 --> 00:08:01,880 But they they took me to Northridge Hospital and I woke up cognitive, I could my brain 131 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:06,680 was understanding what was happening, but my body because of the pills that I had taken 132 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:11,440 in the booze that I drank in, it wouldn't allow me to do anything, right. 133 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:16,360 So I took all my physical strength to write down my name and number because on my my band 134 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,280 is setting like Mr. John Dell or something like that. 135 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:24,240 And you know, I and then once I finally came to and I was able to write down some contact 136 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:30,080 information of my lady at the time, I realized there's cat catheters are not cool, by the 137 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:31,080 way, right. 138 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:32,080 Really, really uncomfortable. 139 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:33,080 Right. 140 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:34,080 Really, really uncomfortable. 141 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:39,640 I remember her asking the nerves of like, I got the sake out of me. 142 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,760 Oh, boy, she got it out of me. 143 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:42,760 All right. 144 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:48,320 I think I was a little obnoxious, more obnoxious than I am today, if you believe it or not. 145 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:53,080 So at that point, at that point, she's like, I don't know what you're gonna do, you can't 146 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:54,080 stay here. 147 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:59,360 So, um, you know, I had a ton of vintage video games, I grabbed a bunch of video games, went 148 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,680 to the GameStop, sold them first money for booze, right. 149 00:09:02,680 --> 00:09:10,320 And then I proceeded to grab a was that thing sleeping bag and slept on next to the LA River. 150 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,880 And it was in the middle of January. 151 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:14,880 So it was very cold. 152 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:19,840 And I just remember drinking enough to to just warm up and just bundled up and everything 153 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,560 was going to be all right until I can figure out how to get some more money the next day. 154 00:09:23,560 --> 00:09:24,560 Right. 155 00:09:24,560 --> 00:09:28,840 And in the middle of the night, I remember here, you know, I got my knife in my hand, 156 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:29,840 right. 157 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:35,600 And then in the morning, I woke up, it was about 10 there was a nice guy forget his name, 158 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:36,600 but he came up. 159 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:37,600 He's like, Hey, you're homeless. 160 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,880 And I'm like, Oh, yeah, I guess you could put it that way. 161 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:41,880 Yeah. 162 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:42,880 I'm here sleeping in the LA River. 163 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:48,240 I guess you can call me homeless and, and he goes, all right, you're around here a little 164 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,400 bit later on my we might be able to talk about whatever. 165 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,920 So I go figure out some booze money, go get some booze. 166 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,880 And then later on in the night, it was probably like five or six right about dusk and he comes 167 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:02,780 in, he's like, hurry up, don't say anything, hurry up, don't, you know, and so we got gathered 168 00:10:02,780 --> 00:10:03,780 my stuff together. 169 00:10:03,780 --> 00:10:06,920 And he showed me this nice little tent in the bushes, right. 170 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:14,240 And you know, it was a commune of individuals that participated in the method means so. 171 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:19,840 And they're very nice gentleman, they offered me into their home and, and he looks at me 172 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:25,920 because she's small Chris, I drink booze he's like good more for me. 173 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,240 But then it came to a point where my little sister came down with a bunch of information 174 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:33,160 and a recovery woman like Salvation Army. 175 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,000 The other one was like a real house and she lives in Fresno. 176 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,120 So she came down, she heard what had happened to me and where it was. 177 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,320 And she says, Ryan, what are you gonna do? 178 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:42,560 I'm like, I know I'm fine. 179 00:10:42,560 --> 00:10:46,680 I got this nice place these guys I'm hanging out with and we're good. 180 00:10:46,680 --> 00:10:49,440 And she's like, how are you gonna live like this? 181 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:50,800 I'm like, yeah, it's fine. 182 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:55,400 She gave me a box of leftover Chinese food and I remember saying, here's information 183 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:59,840 that I found for you maybe should I I'll take you right now, you know, my dollar. 184 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:00,840 She's like salvation army. 185 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:01,840 I'm like, is there a God there? 186 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,840 She's like, yeah, mandatory Bible studies. 187 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,880 I'm like, nope, there's no way but absolutely not. 188 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,600 And she's like, What about this cover your house in my eye and I'll think about it. 189 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:15,920 And then I remember going down back to the LA where my box leftover Chinese food and 190 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:20,600 didn't have a fork and how dare she not give me. 191 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:26,640 I need for don't you know, and I remember the great beautiful sunset, I'm sitting there 192 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:31,760 box of leftover Chinese food eating it with my face ball and just what I'm gonna do and 193 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:38,360 I had a moment of clarity, a moment of clarity that I cannot live this way any longer. 194 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:43,640 So I broke it and broke the news to the nice gentleman say, Hey, listen, I'm I'm probably 195 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:44,640 not going to be around anymore. 196 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:49,640 I'm going to go try to get sober and they're like, Oh, well, you know, I get ISS on the 197 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,720 first month come back we'll party like no problem. 198 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:58,240 So I decided to ditch the spot and gather my belongings and go to this cabrillo house 199 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:03,640 situation and remember there's the house cook at the time the assistant manager his name 200 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:04,640 is James. 201 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:09,120 He was laying out the rules and I was listening to all these rules and don't you know who 202 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:10,120 I am? 203 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:16,400 I don't have to do anything anyone has to say but I got nowhere else to go and that 204 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,800 carne asada smell pretty good and I'm pretty hungry. 205 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:25,280 So I was like, alright, whatever you say, I'll do whatever you say that I know what 206 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:31,000 happens right and literally have nothing else and and that's how my journey started my little 207 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:36,080 sister basically saved my life by providing me the information and taking the effort and 208 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:40,840 showing me that she cared about my well being and what my future may look like. 209 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:45,600 So then I started doing the deal and then part of that that responsibility was obviously 210 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:52,800 get a job pay your your part and go to meetings and get a sponsor and do the steps what an 211 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,960 order I can't go through with it right. 212 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,720 But I did it right and I started hanging out with the boys and we started running around 213 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:05,120 to see an AAA all the A's and trying to figure out I was trying to figure out where I belong 214 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:09,860 because I didn't know how to identify but then what was really attractive is that I 215 00:13:09,860 --> 00:13:16,360 came to I came to the realization that I wanted to stick with the winners want to stick with 216 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:25,240 the winners and I found a plethora of Men's Stags and I primarily went to Men's Stags 217 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:31,000 primarily went to Men's Stags because these guys had jobs they had wives they had cars 218 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:37,500 they had businesses they had answers for problems that I didn't know how to solve or have problems 219 00:13:37,500 --> 00:13:41,640 for and I just didn't know what they were talking about but I knew that they were living 220 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:47,400 good lives and I wanted to be like them I wanted to hang out with the Rockstones I wanted 221 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:52,580 to be with the winners right because I saw probably during my tenure at the Cabrito house 222 00:13:52,580 --> 00:13:59,580 you know 60 70 guys come and go and only six of them graduated finished the six month stay 223 00:13:59,580 --> 00:14:05,200 and then stayed sober so it was like I learned real quick to like maybe it was a good thing 224 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:09,760 maybe it was a bad thing but I kept people at an arm's length I'm like you stick around 225 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:15,160 get a commitment start doing things around here maybe maybe we could become friends and 226 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:19,400 like I'll be friendly with you but it's like you want to ride with me we're gonna go and 227 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:26,560 do it and this is what I do come see what I'm into right so I would go to Stags to Sobriety 228 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:33,240 Frank Kelly and then I go to you know learning to live I go to USR I go to at the time my 229 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:38,360 sponsor I'll backtrack when I first picked up my sponsor I had one sponsor and then all 230 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:42,540 of a sudden he called me up and he was like hey Ryan you're gonna have to find another 231 00:14:42,540 --> 00:14:47,920 sponsor I got I got like an itch in my vein or something like that so I can't be your 232 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:52,200 sponsor anymore I didn't understand at the time but you know all of a sudden later on 233 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,880 I found that he was in a detox facility when he gave me that call so I was like all right 234 00:14:55,880 --> 00:15:01,320 maybe I understand what that itch in the vein was afterwards but that day I was like I knew 235 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:06,360 I had to get a sponsor in order to stay in the place and I didn't want to break the rules 236 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:11,440 I was the golden boy I was following the rules I was a prime example and I wanted to you 237 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:16,400 know look good you know cuz I was having a lot of fun and I was hanging out with a lot 238 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:20,000 of boys and we're playing games every now and she said I was having fun if this shit 239 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:25,440 wasn't fun I would not be here right and I was having a ton of fun I am the games master 240 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:31,360 and I remember there's one of the the guy that is still in contact with I remember him 241 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:37,640 sitting on the bed of the moon board I said what did you say no I'm bored I don't mind 242 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:43,720 don't you ever say that around me ever again I go get up get to the table let me show you 243 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:48,460 something and there's like let me smoke a cigarette I'll be waiting at the table so 244 00:15:48,460 --> 00:15:54,860 I shown him critics and I proceeded to smash his face into the ground playing critic and 245 00:15:54,860 --> 00:15:59,760 he was so mad that he couldn't beat me that he couldn't stop playing until he could beat 246 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:04,120 me right there's two different players that I have I either have people that never want 247 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:10,160 to play a game with me again because I'm just that good or you will not stop playing with 248 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:15,280 me until you beat me right so either way you know that that was my get down and I got all 249 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:20,720 the boys together and we did that so yeah so that Sunday night it happened to be that 250 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:25,860 this guy used to he'd only come every other week and he just happened to show up and I 251 00:16:25,860 --> 00:16:29,440 remember thinking about two different individuals it was this guy and another guy and they were 252 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:35,020 talking next to each other to different individuals and I remember this guy kind of like talking 253 00:16:35,020 --> 00:16:40,560 a newcomer and then this guy was kind of listening to the newcomer and I found that attractive 254 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:44,400 so I came up to him I said I need a sponsor to be my sponsor and he was just like sitting 255 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,640 there on the on the side of the wall smoking a cigarette he's like well I'm trying to be 256 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,720 out I'm like man I got like 60 days he's like willing to go any length to stay sober I'm 257 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:56,200 like yeah I'll do that and he's like all right what do you do uh Tuesday night so I'm like 258 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,820 I got this uh you know I got this meeting over here he's like no you're not you're gonna 259 00:16:59,820 --> 00:17:03,640 go to this meeting on Tuesday nights okay I'll go to your meeting he's like what do 260 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:08,600 you do Thursday nights I go well I got this MA commitment at this meeting um you know 261 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,900 but I can blow that off and go to your meeting he's like no you're not you're gonna finish 262 00:17:11,900 --> 00:17:16,600 that commitment of its term and then you're allowed to come to my home group the unity 263 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:20,760 service and recovery group what I'll do that and uh he goes what do you do Friday nights 264 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:25,540 I'm like I don't I kind of go here and there he's like well you know you gotta we go to 265 00:17:25,540 --> 00:17:29,780 mason lassen as a group so why don't you come to mason lassen and if you can't get there 266 00:17:29,780 --> 00:17:33,360 I'll pick you up and I go he's like dress nice I'm like what suit and tie he's like 267 00:17:33,360 --> 00:17:41,520 no no just don't be a scumbag he's like oh I'm gonna see me last night um and uh and 268 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:46,480 then he just said don't lie to me I don't want to hear anything about women and this 269 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:51,600 is what you're here I want you to call me every day he's like you pick the time but 270 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:57,960 you come every day at that time and that man his name was Tony Tony Grossi and um he was 271 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:04,560 an absolute rock star stud he was everywhere he did everything he showed me exactly what 272 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:10,320 it took to to stay sober and to share this with another man to achieve sobriety so it 273 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:16,360 was it was such a wonderful experience being with him um you know we went to central office 274 00:18:16,360 --> 00:18:21,440 and answered phones we would go to like the Windsor club or whenever U.S.R. was asked 275 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:28,120 to speak at a a gathering like a Al Capone or whatever and um we just ran around and 276 00:18:28,120 --> 00:18:31,520 we just had a good time and he just showed me the way and you know I had nowhere to go 277 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:36,640 on Thanksgiving I'd go to his house for Thanksgiving dinner you know and he showed me how to be 278 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:43,000 uh be helpful in a in a socially awkward situation it's socially awkward for me because I don't 279 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:49,400 want to behave and he just kind of showed me how to be be a regular guy right and um 280 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:55,080 took me through the steps and he showed me how to pass it on and um now I I had commitments 281 00:18:55,080 --> 00:19:00,120 at every meeting and I was doing everything that I could I was so excited about this I 282 00:19:00,120 --> 00:19:05,040 mean I got to a point where I was so excited that that Tuesday night meeting there was 283 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,520 a couple of things that I saw that they were missing I was like man this could be the greatest 284 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:13,320 meeting in the valley however I've been going to general service and you guys ain't doing 285 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:18,680 it right this is what's going to happen I'm going to get a GSR commitment here we're going 286 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:25,120 to start donating to central office and we're going to start donating to uh to New York 287 00:19:25,120 --> 00:19:30,060 and you don't have an intergroup rep and uh and we're going to start answering phones 288 00:19:30,060 --> 00:19:33,980 at central office you do those things and you will be the greatest meeting in the valley 289 00:19:33,980 --> 00:19:40,160 and those old timers are really all stupid but I annoyed them for so long I said look 290 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:45,000 I'll do the GSR and intergroup commitment for a year simultaneously and then we'll pass 291 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:50,880 it on see if it works out and uh and I I made a deal with the central office I'm like look 292 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:57,880 got a time slot one Sunday all I'm asking for is one Sunday show up and uh and I got 293 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:04,000 him the commitment and um at a certain point um everything was going well I found a nice 294 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:09,840 lady and um you know she was a normie she could put down a a cocktail halfway and just 295 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:15,720 leave it right it's like I don't get that once I start I can't stop and there's nothing 296 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:20,880 you can do to stop me until I'm based down in the gutter right and that's that so it 297 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:26,200 just didn't make sense so she was real attractive to me and you know I was able to um propose 298 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:32,360 to her in a very special magical way um and uh and then we got married right then we got 299 00:20:32,360 --> 00:20:39,600 married um and I advanced in my career right I was I was sorry I was a telemarketer then 300 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:45,600 I became a dispatch manager at a conditioning company and then I realized that I wanted 301 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:52,780 to do better monetarily so uh the owner didn't see it that way she's like well no you make 302 00:20:52,780 --> 00:20:57,600 too much money you need to make less money I said well that's not really what I'm interested 303 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:02,840 in right now and I don't think that's going to happen so then I uh I cried about it my 304 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:08,760 USR men's group hi my job these guys want to pick up this money and then there was this 305 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:14,400 guy that said hey I'll give you a shot I'll put you out there and you know I ran and I 306 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:20,560 gave it my best right I gave it I gave it my best and it was it was awkward and it was 307 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:27,360 uncomfortable but it was okay then shortly thereafter I um I was presented because none 308 00:21:27,360 --> 00:21:33,400 of the the guys at the heating air conditioning companies would give me an opportunity to 309 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:40,520 to actually go out there and and learn um I was presented an opportunity to go and give 310 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:48,480 it a shot so I I politely asked uh the gentleman to allow me to move on uh as much as it broke 311 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:54,540 my heart because he gave me a shot um but I I wanted to I wanted to give it a try right 312 00:21:54,540 --> 00:22:00,160 so I gave it a try and I was doing okay it wasn't amazing I was okay um and then I figured 313 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:07,520 out that they couldn't pay on time I'm like well America you gotta pay on time so and 314 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:12,080 uh I moved on to that last the the first company that wouldn't give me a shot they just looked 315 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,520 at him I said hey I've been out here selling I've been doing this thing I've been making 316 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:20,840 it happen um give me a shot and if you ain't gonna give me a shot someone will what do 317 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,880 you want to do and they're like well I guess we can give you a shot I'm like and the only 318 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:30,840 reason why I'm coming to you guys is because I know you pay on time that's it right because 319 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:38,480 I did it on time so I did it so then I started to you know learn and grow and get better 320 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:44,280 at at what I do and and then they even started doing goofy things with the money so I was 321 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:51,780 like hey maybe I need to figure out something else so during that time um my meetings depreciated 322 00:22:51,780 --> 00:22:57,720 uh because I was busy running around middle of summer and and uh long hours so I had to 323 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:04,260 sacrifice uh some of the meetings that I was going to and then those meetings that I was 324 00:23:04,260 --> 00:23:10,000 going to I I had like three or four meetings um instead of like seven meetings a week it 325 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:14,840 was three or four meetings um and I also wanted to spend time with the with the lady too because 326 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,880 I thought it would be fair I can't devote everything they have to devote a little bit 327 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:25,720 of time to her to make sure that she's getting what she needs um then I started getting a 328 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:32,620 resentment um after my sponsor died uh things started started to change and it wasn't the 329 00:23:32,620 --> 00:23:38,560 same people weren't doing the things that that was attractive to me at first and and 330 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:45,200 I was trying to promote and get uh people to do those things and collectively get together 331 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:49,920 and I wanted to to be the way that it was when I first got there and it just wasn't 332 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:56,240 I was I was mad I was mad so um I I effectively finished all my commitments and I kind of 333 00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:00,120 took off I didn't come back it was around covid it was around covid when it was like 334 00:24:00,120 --> 00:24:04,440 it was like a clean break I'm like okay there's no more bees I'm gonna come back right that's 335 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:09,020 it all my commitments are done and um I didn't right what Alcoholics Anonymous taught me 336 00:24:09,020 --> 00:24:15,440 was how to be consistent and think the tape through um I put in so much work I built up 337 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:21,640 such an account in my spiritual bank that I thought that I was going to be okay I was 338 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:27,920 going to be okay and for a time it was um I I went through uh a series of unfortunate 339 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:39,200 events through the covid time where my wife broke the trust and my as much as it breaks 340 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:46,560 my heart uh my opinions on her had changed she had developed not just a cute little drinking 341 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:52,740 thing it was a pretty serious like hey you're doing some gnarly stuff in the house drugs 342 00:24:52,740 --> 00:25:00,040 and alcohol right and um she broke my trust and and from not really um it never really 343 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:05,920 was the same in there I don't know if I ever really truly forgave her um and how dare you 344 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:11,440 I gave you everything my whole heart all of my money just and it's like I I just couldn't 345 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:16,560 understand why you would do that to me and you know there was no physical violence no 346 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:23,840 uh nothing nefarious on my part of I just wanted her to be happy and I don't know if 347 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:29,020 she took advantage or she just didn't know what to do or she developed these these addictions 348 00:25:29,020 --> 00:25:36,480 and there's there's there's nothing I could do to to make those feelings go away um and 349 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,760 fast forward you know we went through marriage counseling and this and that and and I tried 350 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:48,960 to hold on uh to my feelings as close as possible and I didn't really dissolve them um and I 351 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:55,920 I essentially you know we would get into arguments and I would just tell her say hey if you don't 352 00:25:55,920 --> 00:26:01,480 like it kick rocks right beat it you know I'm giving you everything that I can paying 353 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:07,400 for everything what else do you want from me right um my part is is I probably didn't 354 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:13,640 provide as much emotional support as I could have but um just recently she left right she 355 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:18,880 left and um as I said it one more time you know if you don't like it kick rocks beat 356 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:24,200 it fuck you and it's not the right thing to do you know and I've been I've been back probably 357 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:30,560 about 14 days I mean 14 meetings in 14 days um day number three this nice gentleman came 358 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:35,900 up and asked me if he texted me texting me if I show him what this whole big book thing 359 00:26:35,900 --> 00:26:41,040 was all about all right I'm like all right well I haven't talked to my sponsor in like 360 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:46,640 eight years so I probably should talk to my sponsor and then I was talking to a gentleman 361 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:53,580 before the meeting on that Thursday before I belted out my all of my sorrows um and uh 362 00:26:53,580 --> 00:26:58,360 after talk to him like face to face and personally there was a lot of similarities of the things 363 00:26:58,360 --> 00:27:03,320 that I was going through currently right now um and I I just asked him I was like hey look 364 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:08,080 I I can't sponsor someone if I don't have a sponsor that is not a good example right 365 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:13,360 I have a sponsor I haven't talked to him but now my old sponsor is my my grand sponsor 366 00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:18,640 right so now I got a sponsor who has a sponsor who has a spot grand sponsor and a great grand 367 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:23,800 sponsor right so and that's the way I like it right there is a lineage associated um 368 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:30,800 right now it's I'm going through it it's tough I wake up in absolute pain and despair it's 369 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:37,400 absolutely devastating I want things to work out so badly I want things to work out so 370 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:42,760 badly and I don't know if it's gonna get better I just don't know but I have my finances in 371 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:48,240 order I I make reasonable enough money to accommodate for my needs but the most important 372 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:53,320 thing is that two weeks ago when I was sitting there with that decision of like well what 373 00:27:53,320 --> 00:28:00,680 am I gonna do to to resolve my financial situation um I have the pistol in my hand and then I 374 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:05,440 realized that there's no bullets and I have to put in effort to go bible is to actually 375 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:10,720 do the thing I'm like well that's a pain in the ass and um then I'm sitting there thinking 376 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,120 I'm like well you know she wants a drinking partner it'd probably be a good idea to just 377 00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:19,820 start drinking then she'll have someone she could party with right all a good time and 378 00:28:19,820 --> 00:28:24,720 and then as soon as that thought crossed my mind like Ryan you stupid son of a bitch just 379 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:34,840 get up go to the Valley Club and and just go but it doesn't matter so I am I don't see 380 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:40,040 anything to anyone and then I quickly realized that I had more time than everyone combined 381 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:45,200 in that room and I was like you guys don't have what I have I know what I need to do 382 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:51,960 so I started making phone calls I have a lot of of contacts and and guys that I've worked 383 00:28:51,960 --> 00:29:00,040 with in the past and my life got so full so fast in this two weeks where have I been and 384 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:05,840 why did I let it go I am such a fool I am such a fool I didn't have to go through this 385 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:12,720 pain I could have done a lot of things um now I'm here tonight speaking to all you wonderful 386 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:17,240 people my buddy Ari he told me he's like make sure you take a picture of everyone so I can 387 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:23,320 make sure that I know who is there all right to support you yeah I'll tell him all right 388 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:28,800 in spirit of anonymity I want to do that all right but um my time is just about up probably 389 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:34,560 a little bit over up but the one thing that I can say is you know find a god of your own 390 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:40,800 understanding that will solve your problems it started off as a group of drunks god the 391 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:45,760 thing that I hung on to was the gift of desperation I'm so desperate not to go back to the way 392 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:50,840 I used to live that I would do whatever you guys did you know and I was following the 393 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:56,280 guys around and I learned how to be consistent show up and do what I say I'm gonna do and 394 00:29:56,280 --> 00:30:01,080 and today the best thing that I have today is I I'm I'm one of the rats in the rat race 395 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:05,360 ra double t double s regular asshole trying to stay sober thanks guys