Lisa's Journey: From Entitlement to Sobriety
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Lisa's Journey: From Entitlement to Sobriety

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Lisa shares her powerful story of overcoming alcoholism and finding a path to recovery. She recounts a challenging childhood marked by family dysfunction, early substance use, and a spiral of destructive choices, ultimately leading to a profound realization of personal responsibility and reliance on faith and fellowship for lasting change. Her journey highlights themes of family trauma, relapse, mental health struggles, and the importance of sponsorship.

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Hi, everybody. I'm Lisa. I'm an alcoholic. And I'm really grateful to be here. And I

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want to thank Oscar for asking me. It is an honor and a privilege. And I met Oscar a few

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years ago. And he's just a great example of this program. Always smiling, always helping,

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always willing. And I really need that. I appreciate that so much. So my sobriety date

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is January 13, 2004. And I have a home group. That's the Tuesday Night Pacific group. And

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I have a sponsor. And she has a sponsor. And she has a sponsor. And I am just so grateful

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to God and Alcoholics Anonymous that I'm sober here. Because I should be dead. I should be

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dead. Because for a long time, I did whatever I wanted, however I wanted, whenever I wanted.

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And it just simply did not work. And it took me a lot of places. So by the grace of God,

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I'm here. And you know, today I'm trying to make my life sacred. I'm trying to bring God's

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will into every action in all of my affairs. Because that's where I get my power and my

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strength. That's where I get my peace. It's not about money. It's not about property. It's not

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about prestige. It's about sharing this program with another alcoholic and staying sober. And

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you know, doing God's will for fun and for free. So I'm the oldest of four. And my father was an

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alcoholic. He was very abusive. When I was a little girl, I used to rescue my mom and try

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to fix everything. And for a really long time, I was trying to fix everything. And I was trying to

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fix everything. And I thought it was my parents' fault why I was alcoholic. Come to find out after

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working the steps and staying sober for a while, you know, that's all on me. You know, that has

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nothing to do with that. So I grew up like this. And you know, I thought I was entitled. My first

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drink was around junior high. We cut school. I went with a bunch of girls. We went to somebody's

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parents' house who wasn't home. And we drank a lot of booze. We got really drunk. We invited some

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boys. And one of the girls puked all over the place. And I was like, I'm going to go to a

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The other girl had a really bad experience. I guess she was making out with her boyfriend. And

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she had been sexually abused or something. So it turned into a big nightmare. We all got caught.

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And you know, we're never going to do this again, you know. And yeah, it was kind of scary. But the

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next time I really remember getting drunk, you know, my dad always had alcohol. I had tasted

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his alcohol. He also had marijuana and pills. And I am an alcoholic. I love alcohol. I love what it

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does for me. It makes me feel like Wonder Woman, you know. And I like that. I don't have to feel,

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anything. I just can just go on blazing, doing everything. But I think it was at a football game

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in my like ninth grade. I drank a bottle of Mad Dog 2020. And I was like, woo, this is awesome.

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I mean, I puked for three days and was super sick and, you know, swore it off. But you know,

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I did it again. You know, that was my first drink. And my best girlfriend, she met her husband,

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we, you know, later on, or that night, she ended up marrying him. And it was kind of,

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funny. But I continued to drink and to use. You know, I went, I graduated high school. I was

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supposed to be top of the class. I was like top of the class. But I always ditched school whenever

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I wanted. I was pretty smart. I did my work. But I didn't want anything to do with it. You know,

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I wanted to drink and do whatever I wanted. I lived with my parents for a while. I think I

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moved out around 17 and got my own little place. I was waiting on tables. And it was good. I went

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to trade tech. That was kind of interesting. And I was like, oh, I'm going to do this. I'm going to

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do this. And I wanted to go to the Rolling Stones concert. And I needed an oil change. And I didn't

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change my oil because I was too busy drinking and carrying on, smoking a little grass and having a

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good time. And I blew my motor at the Rolling Stones concert. So always check your oil. You

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know what I mean? Anyway, I was taking the bus. And I remember I was the kind of girl, you know,

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these guys asked if I wanted a ride. And I got in and we went to the West Side. And we drank booze

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and we smoked. I never freebased Coke, but we freebased cocaine. And then I was like, oh,

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and the one guy started chasing me around the room. And I was so scared. I remember being so

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scared. But I called my, you know, walked to a bus stop. The one, his buddy gave me five bucks and

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his other buddy to go get more beer. And I called my mom and she picked me up. And I, again, swore

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off alcohol. But these are, you know, my best thinking has gotten me here. You know, I think

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I know everything. You can't tell me anything. And I'm just like a whirlwind. So after that,

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I think I started working at another

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restaurant. And I worked at the Sheraton Universal. I was like 19. I got in because my friend was

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there. And I had roommates. And everybody would go drink at the casting office after work. So I went

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and we were drinking and having a good time. And I got introduced to my ex-husband. I didn't know

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at the time. He was 36. I was 19. I wasn't even legal to drink. And, you know, we were closing

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the bar and doing other things like cocaine and some other things you shouldn't be doing.

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And it was just, you know, I was like, I'm not going to drink. I'm not going to drink. I'm not

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going to drink. And it was just so much fun. I couldn't believe you could do these kind of things

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as grownups. You know, I was like, wow, this is really cool. We went to David Carradine's house.

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We partied with Sylvester Stallone and his brother, Peter. I mean, just all these, you know,

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I thought it was so cool. It was like the 80s. And it was really cool. But our relationship

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didn't really go very well. After a while, I had a daughter. And I remember he didn't

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quit drinking. I did when I was pregnant. And after I had her about four months,

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up nursing her, I started drinking again. And it was just on. You know, one time I forgot her

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birthday when she was four. I mean, we had been partying all night. And I was just puking and

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couldn't get up and take care of this little girl. And I felt so guilty. That didn't stop me. And

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this went on for a long time. He was quite abusive. I managed to get out of that relationship. And

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then I put myself back in school. I went to Valley and got my real estate license. And then I was on

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my own again. And I thought I was all cured. I went to the Church of Religious Science,

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for a while. And I thought I had found God. You know, they taught you, you know,

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the power of positive thought and how if you say affirmations, it kind of heals you. So my

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drinking kind of calmed down. I was no longer using for a while. And I got bored, started

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hanging out with the bar again, joined a dart team. Yeah, met my next boyfriend who I was with

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for like seven years. And one of the first things I asked him is if you you know, you don't do drugs,

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right? Because I didn't want to do any more of that. He said, Yeah, yeah, no, no. And so we

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started drinking. And I move them right in right after. And right after, you know, we're in love.

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And then we live together for like seven years. And this relationship is, it goes from kind of

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good to really sad and really bad. There is more drugs. There's crystal meth now. And I have this

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little girl, I forgot her at school one day until like seven o'clock. She's in fifth grade. And I

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didn't remember to get her. You know, I was too busy hung over throwing up from booze. And then,

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you know, I also worked in a bar. And

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the drinking at that bar, you know, I'd have double shots of tequila to do my job. And I drink

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all night, party all night. And that that gentleman ended up killing himself when I was like 33. He hung

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himself on my front steps. And it just really kind of set me before I was kind of controlling and

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enjoying it. And after that, I was no longer controlling and enjoying it. And it was really

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hard. You know, I gave my daughter away to her dad who was an alcoholic as well. But he was dry at

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the time. And I did a geographic, I moved to the high desert. And I was like, Oh, I don't want to go

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to the desert. I moved to state line got a job and got fired shortly after because I couldn't stop

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drinking. And those trays are really heavy. And you have to have balance. You know, when you stack

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them all up, and you've been drinking a lot, it just is not good. I got fired for dropping trays.

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And so then, of course, I get a job at a bar in searchlight. And it's just on and I'm just

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drinking a lot of booze. I gave my daughter to her dad, I'm feeling really sorry for myself. And

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it's just not a pretty sight and shortly thereafter I'm meeting all sorts of men you know

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some of the speakers talked about that I don't even know their names but if they had booze they

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were my friend and you'd wake up and you're like oh how'd I get here who are you you know you have

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no idea but on one of my trips back I remember I was bartending at Searchlight and her dad was

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yelling at me telling me I had to get my shit together and I was telling him screw you you know

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it was my day off it was early in the morning I had a couple of beers I had a Bloody Mary had

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a tequila sunrise and I remember driving from Searchlight Nevada to Van Nuys in like an hour

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and a half I don't know how I got there I have no idea how I got there and I knock on this door

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and this little girl opens the door and she's like mommy you smell like beer and then her dad

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comes over and um so I leave he's gonna call the police and of course we run I'm I'm a coward you

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know welcome to the newcomers I forgot to say that I hope that I say something that will help you

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stay here um Alcoholics Anonymous is a

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disaster and it's a disaster and it's a disaster and it's a disaster and it's a disaster and it's

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a disaster and it's a disaster and it's a disaster and it's a disaster and it's a disaster and it's a

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design for living and it's just really really saved my life excuse me I'm gonna cough again but

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anyway so I'm carrying on on my way back I meet another guy he's really big he talks really slow

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you know I've never met anybody from prison he asked for a ride in my truck and I say sure

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because I'm crazy and so um I give him a ride and he moves in like in two more weeks you know

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we're living together and I had no idea but I thought he could fix me you know I was always

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looking for something on the outside to fix me and um I didn't and I didn't and I didn't

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like me I had all of this pain I didn't want to feel anything and I would lay at home in that

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little trailer I lived in a little trailer nipped and it was a travel trailer probably like from

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there to maybe here by myself no locks on the door alone and I cried myself for hours and I didn't

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know why I would just sob for hours I was so miserable but of course I'm not done yet um we're

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still you know he we're going out he's buying me margaritas but I'm not doing drugs I ended up

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getting pregnant and um we end up moving in together and I'm like I'm not gonna do this I'm

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not gonna do this I'm not gonna do this I'm not gonna do this I'm not gonna do this I'm not gonna do this

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for a little while we kind of have a good life I think it's I'm all better you know he fixed me

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I have a baby I'm a beautiful baby boy I was about um 36 when I had James and I I didn't drink when

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I was pregnant and we had this little life but you know as time goes on he's working as an uh um

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he got a job in some construction thing making good money and so I'm a stay-at-home mom and

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you start getting a little bored and you know the guy in back drinks and he's drinking and so I'm

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thinking what's a little drink gonna do you know so I have a little drink there's always a little drink

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is Jack Daniels and Bacardi. And before you know it, we have a keg of beer in the garage. And

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before you know it, I need to go back to LA to see my friends for a little minute to have a little

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something extra so I can drink a little more. And all of a sudden, I wake up one morning in my

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garage and there's five brand new generators. You know, he was in jail for like grand theft and

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stealing and things and he had started drinking and using and now we have like a whole garage

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full of hot merchandise. And I'm crying and I'm begging him, you know, and he goes to jail. So

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he goes to jail. I'm feeling really sorry for myself. I have a two-year-old and a 17-year-old

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and my best idea is to, you know, because she's drinking. She's doing beer runs with her buddies.

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They go to a liquor store. They run in and grab alcohol and get in the car and run out. And she's

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been caught in trouble. And I'm just like, oh, it's no big deal. It's no big deal. Just start

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to drink with me. I mean, this is the kind of mother and person that I am. This is where my

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alcoholism is taking me. And, you know, I also did meth with her.

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Because she was going to do it with her friends. And I'm like, well, maybe you should do it with

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me. It would be a lot safer. So I'm a really sick person. And, you know, when I got here,

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I didn't think I was an alcoholic and I didn't think I had a problem. And I thought you people

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were really weird. And I wasn't quite sure. But I stayed because I was super desperate. So to the

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new people, I hope you're super desperate. You know, so this went on for a long time. And I had

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nine jobs in like a two-year period. Couldn't work. Had to go get welfare. When I went to get

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high desert, they're like, well, you have college and you have a real estate. They were really mean

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to me. And I was thinking, God, that's another reason to drink. It's so not fair, you know.

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But anyway, so I just continued to drink and have these jobs and get fired. You know, I could work

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for a few days and then I'd have to have a drink. And then I couldn't show up. Or if I showed up,

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I was hungover and I tell you how to do your job. And that just doesn't work very well.

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So it's a mess. He gets out of jail and,

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I'm going to try to get sober. And, you know, it's really hard. And I remember he crashed all

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of our cars. I drove one of the cars. He gets out and I drive one of the Suzuki Samurai and it got

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stuck on the railroad tracks. But he doesn't have a problem either. He was drinking. And I drive it

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to the meeting. There's no doors. It's all smashed in the front. I mean, I think everything's just

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fine. But I get a little depressed and I call AA and somebody picks me up and they take me to a

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meeting. And they make me drink. And I'm like, I'm going to get sober. And I'm like, I'm going to

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read the promises. And I just cry and cry. But I don't stop. And then I go to an outpatient program

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because I don't know what to do. And the lady says, well, okay, you're going to have to do this,

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this, and that. And I'm like, I'm not that bad. And you don't get better. You don't get better.

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So what ends up happening is I get really scared because now he's getting high with my daughter.

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She's still getting drunk. I have like a three-year-old and I think she's 17, almost 18.

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And it's a big mess. And,

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I take off and I go to this place called Angel Steps. It's a recovery center in East LA near

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Chavez Boulevard or something like that. And I'm there for like 90 days. I have my little boy.

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They give us counseling. They give us anger management. They feed you. They give us a book

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like this to a bunch of girls for domestic violence because there was some abuse. And

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they say, do a meeting. So they leave. We don't do a meeting. We're screwing off. We're not taking

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this seriously. We're thinking, really? What's this all about?

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And I'm there for 88 days. And the lady tells me, you're going to get loaded. And I'm like,

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who are you? And sure enough, I take the train to my friend's house. By the way, I left my

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car there with my friends that drink and use just like me. And when I get there, there's

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no tires on my car. There's no starter. And my friend who was diabetic that drank just

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like me has missing a leg. And you know what? Probably within a few hours, I have a Budweiser

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in my hand. I didn't go to a meeting. There's just all this drama going on. And I continue,

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like this, until I really can't. Anyway, right after that, his dad calls and says he's going to

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take my son. So I give my son to the grandma. And then my mom says, if I go to treatment,

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she'll help me with my daughter. Because I left my daughter at her friend's house who drank just

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like that and do all sorts of crazy. I mean, I was so unaccountable. I just really didn't care.

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And my kids are the things that mean the most to me in my life. And alcohol took that away from me.

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It makes you care about nothing. It makes you care about nothing. It makes you care about nothing.

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This is truly, truly sad. But anyway, I did go to Tarzana Treatment Center. I was there for like

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five and a half months. It was really hard. I didn't want to stay. But I was desperate because

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on the way, before I went to Tarzana, we had gotten high one more time and drunk together

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because we had court. And I was really nervous. So you have to stop by and see your old friends.

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And there was Jack Daniels. And then there were other things. And we left the court paper on the

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top of the car and then showed up to court like wasted. And really, I don't know. I don't know. I

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really don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

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Really bad idea. Really bad idea. And I was thinking to myself, I tried to buy my daughter lunch. And

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she's like, Mom, Mom, did you see these people? They're after us. And she was so paranoid. And

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I should have taken her to the hospital. But I was so worried that I was going to get arrested

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because I'm selfish, self-seeking, just another really sick alcoholic. I don't do that. So that's

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why I finally decided to go to Tarzana's because you know what? I'm going to lose my daughter. And

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I finally realized that my life has been a mess. And I'm going to lose my daughter. And I finally

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realized that my life has been an incredible mess. It's all been whatever I wanted to do.

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And if I want something different for my daughter, I need to be an example. And so I go. And I get

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sober. It was super hard. I'm there for five and a half months. I clean in the kitchen. I clean the

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bathrooms. I get a sponsor off a panel. I remember she took me to a meeting and she had me write

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about powerless and unmanageability. And I'm like, oh, I mean, I'm powerless over alcohol,

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but my life is not unmanageable.

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She starts laughing and goes, where are you? And I was so angry for so long. I slammed the car. She

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had this really fancy car. She was doing really well. And she told me, you know, if I ever do that

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again, she wasn't going to help me. And I remember going back in and just crying and calling her and

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saying, okay, whatever you want me to do. It was hard. I was so full of self. And this like survivor

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part in me that just takes over and just like mows down everybody. And thank God for this program.

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I started working my, my steps with this sponsor. And, um, I got a job on a bus from there. I'm still

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at that same job. It hasn't been easy. I said, that's impossible, but I got two jobs and I picked

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one. And, um, then I got visitation to my son and I started staying sober and I started going to

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court and I started doing whatever they told me to do, even though I was mad, even though he wasn't,

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it didn't matter. It was all about my side of the street. And, um, I put him in, uh, I had him three

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days a week and I got him started.

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I started coming home and being with, you know, taking him to the park and swimming and riding

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his bike, like things a normal mother should do. And, um, it felt really good. I remember, um, I

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had the worst credit when I finally, um, got it. I went to sober living for a few months and then I

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got an apartment because somebody in the program helped me, um, because my credit was just ruined

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and we were watching TV and it was sad. It was some monster movie and he started to cry and I

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started to cry and he turned around and looked at me and said, mom, don't cry.

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Because before when I used to cry, I would go lock myself in the room, drink lots of booze and not come

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out for days. And he, he, I was like six, seven months sober, maybe, maybe nine. It was in my

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first year. And I told him, honey, you know what? It's different today. I have God. And I got on my

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knees and looked him eye to eye and told him I loved him. And you know what? I really meant that

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third step. You know, that's a contract with God, with all of my heart, turn your will and your life

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over. Um, and he would go and tell all his friends, yeah, my mom goes to church. It's all

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about God. They hold hands because I, I used to take him to meetings because I had no choice. I

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had no money. And, um, I took him to meetings until he was like eight and, uh, continue to

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work my steps. And, um, it really, really helped. Um, got a girl, got a couple sponsees like around

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a year and it felt really good to try to give it away. Um, the fourth step, the first time was

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really hard. I remember writing all that stuff down and I remember saying like, I'm never going

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to say a few things, but I did it anyway. I told her before she left because after I read all the

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things, the resentments, she's like, is there anything else? And I decided, you know what?

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This is my life. I really want to stay sober because if I don't do this, my daughter's going

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to be on the street. My son's going to be with the crazy in-laws because they were really crazy.

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And, um, and they're going to blame me. Like I blame my dad and I don't want that. I want them

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to have hope. And so I just did whatever I could. You know, I started going on panels. I was an

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alternate GSR. I had a home group. It was, you know, I had a home group. I had a home group. I

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had women's conscious contact. I had that group for eight years. We had a lot of service. Um,

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it was really awesome. But at the end of eight years, it started to really fall apart because

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they didn't follow the traditions and there was a lot of animosity. So I changed. My sponsor was

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like, no, you need a different home group. So the Tuesday night Pacific group is my home group. Um,

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you know, it was really hard. I had to go back to court. I remember when James was 11 and he was in

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junior high, he started having a lot of problems because his dad was telling him he was out of jail

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with his mom and he was telling my little boy he could do whatever he wanted. And I was like,

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no, you can't. And so he started ditching school and starting fights and failing school.

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And then he, you know, his mom mortgaged her house so he could get an attorney. And, um,

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it was just super hard. He, I had to one time call the police on him because he threatened to

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run away. My sponsor made me call the police and, um, have a talk with him. Um, I took him

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to counseling for like three, four years, every Friday, come hell or high water,

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went to counseling. And, um, and then I enrolled him in all sorts of different sports and he used

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to kick me and hit me and tell me he didn't love me. And I would tell him that's okay, honey,

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I love you anyway. And he'd be like, well, my dad and my grandma. And I said, I understand,

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but you live with me and I'm sober and we're, we're going to get through this. And I love you.

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And I was just so scared. Um, my sponsor also made me get a gal from that conscious contact

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meeting. And every time before I would, cause I would go off, you'd become in a rage. I'd call

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her up and I'd share with her before I talked to my son. And I would call her up and I'd share with

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him. So I start to talk to him like a normal person instead of raging. Um, that little boy

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is doing really well today. He's like 19. He doesn't, he's not like me at all. Um,

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it's just like so amazing. And, um, you know what? And he, and he sees his dad,

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you know, for a long time, he was really, um, mad at his dad. Cause his dad doesn't show up

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for birthdays or Christmas. He doesn't give presents. And I always tell him, you know what?

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It's the only dad you have just love him for what he is. And you know, he's a good guy and I don't

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hate him.

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You know, I had to do a lot of 10 steps because I was pissed that I didn't get child support.

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And at the end of doing all those 10 steps, and he also took me to court, I had to pay for an

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attorney to try to, you know, keep my son. I get to be James's mom sober. I'm, it doesn't matter

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if you ever give me a penny, you know, all the things that I did, who the heck am I to judge

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anybody? So that was really huge, that revelation. And we kind of became friends for a little while

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on and off. He still drinks. He, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he,

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he had pancreatitis a few years ago, you know, he's not an alcoholic, that's okay. I'm here. I

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always tell him if you ever want to talk, you know, I'm here. Um, that little girl, she's a nurse,

22:02

you know, she went to, um, she has two bachelors and an associate's degree. And I was able to make

22:08

my living amends by putting her through nursing school. And it wasn't easy. It was really hard.

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You know, her dad passed away when she was like 14. So there's just, you know, us. And it's just

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Alcoholics Anonymous has taught me that I can do whatever, whatever is good, whatever is right

22:25

with my God. I mean, I have a God of my own understanding and it's just really, it's so

22:31

awesome. You know, I've sponsored a lot of people in the beginning. I had like seven girls and I

22:37

remember that's why I changed that one meeting because they weren't following the traditions

22:41

and all of the women thought they were being talked about. They weren't. The girls were

22:45

talking about shopping or some other drama and there were other arguments, but in the Pacific

22:50

group, they don't do things like that. The traditions come first. The newcomer comes first

22:54

because if I don't do God's work and stay sober and help another person stay sober and take the

23:00

actions, not just the words, then I'm going to drink. And there was a time too when I had to

23:06

go to court. I remember that was a long time ago. I was at conscious contact and I went to court and

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I got lost and I got a ticket for using the cell phone.

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I was late to court and they threw out all the child support that he owed me. And I remember I

23:21

was so mad because he's a really good, you know, he was in prison for like probably 14 years. He

23:25

wrote a really good letter and he said he didn't know, but he did know. And we were supposed to be

23:31

together and I wanted to drink on the way home. And the girl, Carrie, that was a really good friend

23:36

of mine called me and I told my sponsor I was going to get drunk and I was like, F this and F

23:41

that. And she came to my house that night because I told her I don't want to go to the meeting. She

23:45

walked up the steps, knocked on the door. I said, I'm not going. And she said, yes, you are. And I

23:50

was willing. I got in the car with her and I went to the meeting and I led the meeting, you know,

23:55

because there's been a couple times where, you know, you just don't think you can do it. It's

23:59

freaking not being, you know, being sober from the neck up with all of this drama. And I had

24:05

no tools. I mean, it's taken me a long time to get some tools and a design for living. You know,

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for so long, I was just, uh,

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to stay sober and, and I would just go to my meetings and just, you could feel God like I felt

24:21

God, but it wasn't a hundred percent. There was still so much of Lisa left. And, um, today there's

24:27

a lot more God than Lisa. I mean, that's how, and I'm so much more comfortable and at ease. Uh, and

24:33

that comes from being of service, you know, taking commitments, you know, um, picking up newcomers,

24:39

making coffee, um, you know, being of service at home, being at service at work,

24:45

being at service anywhere you can, you know, putting someone else's needs ahead of yours,

24:50

thinking of them more and you less. Um, so, you know, half, and I remember when I was new to that

24:57

one, um, line, half measures availed us nothing. We stood at the turning point, you know? And so

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that's why I always made sure I never stopped going to meetings and I always had commitments

25:06

and I wasn't happy. I was so pissed off for so long. I mean, I think just in the last, maybe

25:11

three or four years, I started to really kind of acceptance,

25:15

without approval and just kind of like be where I am. And, um, it's such a better way and to find

25:21

some joy and to find some love because you know what? There's also, I have a really good life.

25:27

I live in a sober home. I get to go to meetings. I have sober friends. My family loves me. My

25:33

brother's actually paying for me to go to Hawaii at the end of the month. Um, my mom before didn't

25:38

want to see me. I mean, I remember one time when I was in a drunken stupor, I gave all of her jewelry

25:43

back because they used to spy on me because I'd bring all sorts of stuff. I mean, I remember

25:45

it's a creepy people home and she lived in the apartment over here and I lived over here. That's

25:50

also when I drank in the closet. I was a closet drinker. Um, and you know, she would worry and

25:55

I would always be, I'm fine. It's none of your business here. Take all your stuff and, you know,

25:59

stick it up. I mean, I was just so mean. I mean, where else can you come where you can take your

26:05

worst things and share them with somebody and have a little light and a little hope?

26:11

You know what I mean? I didn't want to die anymore. Um,

26:14

I worked for a company called The Lover. I worked for a company called The Lover. I worked for a

26:15

with this one gal for eight years. It was awesome. And I loved her very much. But at the end of the

26:20

time, she just couldn't hear me. And she was getting herself really mixed up. And then I

26:24

worked with a bunch of other girls and, um, they would get sober for like a year and a half or two

26:28

years. And then they'd stop calling. They stopped going to meetings. And all of a sudden you're

26:33

drunk. And all of a sudden, you know what? It's someone else's fault. So I'm so grateful that I

26:38

haven't done that. Um, I did a, a, a big book study, a lengthy 10 month, big book study when

26:44

I was like 12 years. And it kind of saved my life. Um, because right before that I had a girl that I

26:51

worked with and, and she moved to Texas and then she got drunk and I let her move with me and she

26:56

never moved out. She was with me for like four months. And at the end of those four months,

27:00

I think I had lost all of my serenity, all of my peace. And, um, I remember sitting on the patio

27:06

and saying, God, I just need a drink. And then I called up my girlfriend and then I called up my

27:11

sponsor. And then I made a, a way to get her out, you know, because I'm an, I learned how to take

27:16

care of people. That's what comes natural to me to make it better for you as well as being an

27:22

alcoholic. And, um, I was just really not doing this woman any service at the end. Besides she

27:27

had already gotten drunk, having a new person in your house with your kids was just crazy. Um, but

27:32

doing this workshop, it was so funny. Uh, we went line by line to the book and you just see there's

27:41

such, so divinely inspired. Um, just how if we trust in God, trust God, clean house, be of

27:48

service, you know, um, how that our oversensitivity is a huge handicap and how it takes many of us

27:55

many a long time to get over how that just at one day at a time, we can find hope. Um, just find

28:02

hope. I've always prayed. I get on my hands and knees since I've been three years sober and ask

28:07

God to direct my thinking and to do his will and not my will.

28:11

And that really helps. And, um, doing that workshop, I remember, uh, we got to the, uh,

28:17

four step and she's like, do you have resentments? And I'm like, no. Oh my God. I had like 30

28:22

resentments and they were different resentments. They weren't like actually actions. They were

28:27

like how people treated me. And like my sponsor sponsor always says how I'm carrying myself and

28:34

what I'm bringing into the group instead of sharing, instead of being light and happy,

28:39

I'm like pissed off. I'm just like,

28:41

like doing it. Um, okay. Just, uh, doing it, uh, you know, just not with such joy. I mean,

28:47

I see a lot of people and they feel so they look so light and I've always, I think I'm wrapped

28:53

really tight. Lack of power is my dilemma, you know, and I want to control and enjoy things.

28:59

And really that's not what God's about. You know, we have to come here, follow direction,

29:04

put one foot in front of the other and keep doing the actions on one of the 10 minute speakers

29:09

talked about that.

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The actions bring us into right thinking and it's like service and service and more service.

29:16

And, um, one of those resentments was over my sponsor. I remember she didn't have time to see

29:22

me and I had gotten my real estate license and she was buying a house and she was going to use

29:27

someone else. And she came to the Tuesday night meeting with her group of friends and I was just

29:31

sitting there and I just started to shake. I was, and I haven't felt that in a long time.

29:37

And, um, I don't know how I stayed, but I stayed.

29:41

And, um, and as she left, I said, we need to talk. And, um, I called her and told her I really

29:46

need to talk. And I wrote about that 10 step because I was thinking she needed to be everything

29:52

that I had expectations. You know, she has a life. She's a person. She's busy. It's not all about me.

29:58

I mean, this selfishness, self-seeking, um, dishonesty, fear, it's just, it just drives us.

30:05

But I ended up doing a 10 step on her and really making amends and taking a good,

30:11

look at it and seeing that I was at fault. It's all me. Wherever I go, it's frigging me.

30:17

And, um, it's not always pretty. It's not always pretty. Um, so we got over that and we've been

30:23

working together. She's been my sponsor since I've been a year and a half. And, um, you know,

30:28

my life is pretty good. I just went to Massachusetts. I wanted to make an amends to this

30:33

young man's mother. I never went to the funeral, the guy that killed himself. And, um, you know,

30:37

it's really hard. I got to bring my daughter and, um, she caught,

30:41

I, I called her. I had a dream about him and I called her and she invited us. And then I called

30:45

her a week later and she changed her mind, but I had already bought the tickets. So, um, we went

30:50

anyway and I just, you know, wrote about it and just wanted to let her know that I really loved

30:57

her son and she was a good mom. She was a good mom and, um, she did everything she could. It

31:02

was not her fault. I didn't keep it heavy. I kept it really light. I bought her lunch and I brought

31:07

her flowers. We only had lunch, but, um, she told me when I left, she gave me a hundred dollars.

31:11

And she said, please keep in touch. Um, you know, one of the girls at my work, uh, her, her son is 23

31:17

years old. He just OD'd like a month ago. And, uh, he's been having alcohol and drug problems for a

31:22

while. And I, you know, I've offered to try to help and he was fine. She's fine. You know, this

31:26

girl drinks and smokes and whatever. But, um, that's when I really realized I saw from a mother's

31:32

point of view, how that must feel to lose a son. Because when Steven died, it was all about me,

31:38

what he did to me, how dare he left me behind. And I drank behind that for years. I mean,

31:43

that's just, I'm just such a selfish person. Um, but I was kind of able to put that behind me.

31:49

You know, I make sandwiches with a gentleman named Ray Casanelli, um, for Frontline. He's

31:54

been doing it for 30 years. And so every Sunday morning at 630 in the morning, I'm making tuna

31:59

sandwiches and he takes them to Skid Row. And I find that acts like that are, um, they're just

32:05

selfless. It's just like a really, really beautiful,

32:08

beautiful thing. And, um, he always tells me that we come to Alcoholics Anonymous and we have a

32:13

head full of our own ideas. And we work these steps and we take these actions and it slowly

32:19

kind of saturates all of our stuff. So sooner or later, there's only God left and all the confetti,

32:27

he goes like this, the confetti, Lisa, that you have, it just all kind of disappears. And it's so,

32:33

it's so true because God is the director. We are the children, you know, um, he,

32:38

he's the principal, we're the agents. And if we follow his will in all of our affairs,

32:43

whether we like it or not, um, it just really works. And, um, that's kind of where I'm at

32:48

trying to make my life sacred and trying to do God's will. You know, I'm a waitress,

32:52

been there for a long time. Uh, it's kind of hard. They, they, I get moved around a lot

32:57

and it's hard. I have to show up and be of service if whether you're nice or not,

33:01

whether you tip or not, whether it doesn't matter. And, uh, Sunday on Mother's Day,

33:05

after coming back from Massachusetts,

33:08

my order got lost and the manager, I think I know better than her. Of course I know better

33:13

than everybody. And, um, she doesn't go over there. My order's missing the sausage patties

33:19

missing. And then, you know, so I'm complaining and I'm whining and I'm pissed. And she says,

33:24

will you stop complaining? And I turn around and I look at her and I said, well, if you know how

33:28

to do your job, I need the food to serve the people. Okay. Really? Okay. I'm a spiritual

33:33

giant. But, um, so I say this and, um, anyway, I get in trouble. I get in trouble. I get in trouble.

33:38

I get in trouble on Tuesday. I call my sponsor on Wednesday. I tried calling her. I left her a

33:42

message. Couldn't get ahold of her. I get ahold of her on Wednesday morning and I'm like defending

33:47

myself and saying, it's not my fault. And she's like, okay, Lisa, you know, you have tools do a

33:52

10th step. So I did a 10th step and you know, I read it to her. And on Thursday morning, I brought

33:58

this woman a coffee and I said, you know, Judy, I'm so sorry. You work really hard. You really

34:03

do a good job. And I just need to keep my side of the street clean, being a good waitress. And I am

34:08

so sorry. Can we, can you please forgive me? And, um, you know, that's how I live. I feel it right

34:14

here when I don't do the right thing. And so far I haven't really wanted to drink. I mean, it's like

34:20

when I was new and I was alone, I'd be so afraid. Like when I was sick and she'd say, you have to

34:24

call in sick. I'd be like, oh my God, oh my God, I got to call people. Now I know that wherever I

34:30

go, God is, and he's right here. And I have this inside of me and I don't want to drink or use

34:36

anymore. I mean, sometimes, you know, it flies by.

34:38

And you go, no, no, thank you. Or if you think about it, then I'm raising my hand in a meeting

34:43

going, guess what my head told me? My head told me to go to the bar and have a Coke. What do you

34:48

think? No. And so you stay sober. So I'm just so, so blessed to be here. And, um, it is an honor and

34:55

a privilege. I'm sorry if I'm all over the place. Um, I love my life and I want to give more and do

35:02

more for God's will. And I want Lisa to get even smaller because when I have more humility and,

35:08

um, less of me, I'm just so much more powerful. I can actually really help people and you can see

35:14

their light. And I love the identification in Alcoholics Anonymous. I mean, that was the first

35:19

time I ever laughed when I came here. You guys were talking about all your deep, dark secrets

35:24

that I was like shoving. And I'm like, oh, you guys are my people. This is a we program, not a

35:29

me program. And, you know, I tried getting sober with my first husband and I sat in the back and I

35:35

didn't raise my hand and I didn't say I was an alcoholic. I didn't say I was an alcoholic. I

35:38

was an alcoholic. And if you're not powerless over alcohol, it isn't going to work. So it's

35:42

really simple. So, um, thank you all. I am really, really grateful. I'm going to stop because I think

35:47

I'm babbling now, but, um, it's an honor and a privilege and, um, I really appreciate it. Thank

35:52

you for letting me share.