Finding Relief Through Sobriety: Annie's Journey
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Finding Relief Through Sobriety: Annie's Journey

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Annie shares a poignant story of navigating a childhood marked by her mother’s stroke and a family culture of alcohol, leading to her own struggles with alcoholism and a search for belonging. She explores themes of family dynamics, early sobriety, mental health, and the relief found through fellowship and a connection to a higher power.

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I would like to introduce our main speaker, Annie A.

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Thank you.

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Annie, alcoholic.

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I don't ever need a microphone.

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I'd like to thank Alex for asking me to speak and Mariana for suggesting him that he asked

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me to speak.

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You guys are a really nice bunch.

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Jerry and Bridget, did I get your names right?

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You guys were awesome.

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I'm like, oh yeah, y'all are going to be disappointed and I'm the main act.

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Anyways, it's an honor and a privilege to speak at an AA meeting and to participate

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in my own sobriety.

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I hope that what I have to say helps somebody.

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It's my story.

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It hasn't changed and the whole time I've been sober, so here it goes.

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My sobriety date is February 19th, 1991.

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I have a sponsor, Jane W. I'm coming up on 29 years.

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Alcohol stopped working for me.

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If it still worked for me, there'd be another speaker up here tonight.

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I was born and raised in Santa Monica, California.

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When I grew up in Santa Monica, it wasn't this shishy place.

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It is now.

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It was just this quiet, little, small town because people hear, oh, you're from Santa

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Monica.

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It's like, yeah, no, no.

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It wasn't me.

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I had, I guess, a pretty normal childhood.

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I had two parents.

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I was loved.

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When I was three, my mother had a massive stroke and she was in the hospital for, I

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don't know, a couple of years.

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I was three.

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I don't really remember a lot.

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I have like little blips of what my mother was, like little memories of my mother before

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she came out of the hospital.

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But when she did, she walked out of the hospital.

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She was in the hospital.

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She was in the hospital.

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She was in the hospital.

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She walked with a cane.

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She had no peripheral vision, so she couldn't drive.

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And she was different, so I felt different.

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You know, I didn't have a normal mother.

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That was my problem.

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I felt like everyone that shared at the podium, you guys all knew how to act and I didn't.

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You guys all had the instruction.

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You were comfortable in your own skin.

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I was not.

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Honestly, if my mother didn't have a stroke, I'd probably still be an alcoholic and I probably

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would have still felt different.

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It just would have been something different, but that's how I felt different.

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And she was a constant embarrassment.

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And I just felt all through school, everyone else had a normal life and I didn't.

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And I was very shy at school.

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Nobody who knows me nowadays believes I've ever was shy, but at home I was okay.

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I was comfortable around cousins or people I knew.

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But if I didn't know you and if I was at school, I was terrified to talk.

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I was terrified to read.

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I was terrified to answer questions, even if I knew the answers.

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If I was picked on or bullied, I'd never tell an adult or my parents.

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I don't know why, I just felt that there was something wrong with me and that I deserved

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it.

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I would have been great for a child molester, thank God I never was, but never, ever talked

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about feelings.

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I was raised, I was born in 1960, so I was raised when everything had to look good from

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the outside.

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As long as it looked good on the outside, y'all went to mass on Sunday, didn't matter

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how you acted during the week, but everything had to look good.

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So that's how I was raised.

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And I'm a nice Irish Catholic girl.

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I'm a Catholic.

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So drinking was normal in our family.

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Getting drunk was not normal in our family, but drinking was normal in our family.

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Every holiday when we had First Holy Communions and stuff, the big question was where to put

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the bar because that was going to be the most crowded room.

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My dad had two drinks every night before dinner.

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He used a jigger because he didn't want it to be too strong.

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When I got older, that didn't make any sense to me.

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My mother drank a lot.

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She was an embarrassment.

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She would get drunk and she would get sloppy, and I always was going to drink alcohol when

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I got older because it was hip, slick, and cool.

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When I grew up, there were the Thin Man movies and Auntie Mame and a lot of the movies from

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the 30s.

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People who are old like me are shaking their head, excuse me for calling you old.

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I've been told by my students I'm old.

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I'm turning 60 this year.

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I always watched movies, and there was a TV show called M.A.S.H. where they would play

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checkers with shots.

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I don't know.

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Drinking just looked really cool.

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Hangovers even looked cool.

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I couldn't wait to do it.

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My family would go out, and the adults would order their cocktails.

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We'd have Shirley Tentles.

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Moving right along, everyone talks about their first drink.

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I didn't have a first drink because we had sips of our parents' drink.

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I remember one Christmas Eve, we were allowed to have champagne.

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Every time we had parties, we'd have our own cocktails, and we'd pretend to smoke, and

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we were all very adult.

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I just couldn't wait to grow up so I could drink.

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When I was in high school, I remember the first drunk.

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I never felt popular.

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I never felt with it.

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I never felt like I belonged.

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I had friends in high school.

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I was with the cool crowd.

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I just never felt like I belonged, and I was just waiting.

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I was just never comfortable.

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I don't know what it was.

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Anyone that identifies with it, when I had my first drunk, I didn't care if I belonged.

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I just felt that relief.

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That relief.

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Yeah.

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That sigh of relief.

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I've heard it described as my shoulders finally relaxed.

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I felt cool.

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I had fun.

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I had something.

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I don't know.

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It was ale or something.

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It was like a really strong beer, but I had it at a party in high school.

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I don't remember a lot about that party, but I remember the next day, everyone was talking

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about me, and I got a lot of attention, and boy, from then on, I wanted to have a drink

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at a party.

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If I went to a party in high school and there was no alcohol, it wasn't going to be any

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fun.

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I was supposed to get out of high school.

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You talked about being great at school.

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I don't know.

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I got Bs and Cs.

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It was the 60s, and I was supposed to get married and have children, and school was

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not a career for me.

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In high school, I went to classes.

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I was on the swim team.

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I was boys volleyball team manager, and every Friday night, we were drinking beer, and there

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was a kegger, and I was having parties, and it was fun.

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I didn't really care about college or going anywhere.

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I think I went to SMC for a year.

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Actually, let me correct myself.

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I signed up for classes.

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I showed up the first week or two.

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They had something called a syllabus, and they wanted us to do stuff, and they would

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explain what it was, and oh my God, it sounded really hard.

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I was not smart.

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I was just waiting for him to come along because he was going to support me because I was born

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in 1960, and that's how it was.

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Women got married, and their husbands took care of them.

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That's how I was raised.

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Real tricky, though, because it was the 70s, and things started to change.

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Anyways, I got a job at Henshey's Department Store in Santa Monica, and I made $2.50 an

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hour.

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I was making minimum wage.

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I hung out with some older people.

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We'd go to the bowling alley, and we'd get drunk and shift ahead because I don't have

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that long to talk.

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You guys talked.

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Bridget got pregnant.

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She had a child.

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You had a career.

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I don't know how long you've been teaching.

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I didn't teach until after sobriety.

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I've heard speakers.

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They went to college.

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They got married.

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They had jobs.

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They had this.

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They had that.

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That's not my story.

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I got drunk and stayed drunk.

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I don't know how you people functioned.

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I did work in a couple restaurants.

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But luckily, I got a job.

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I got a job.

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But the alcoholism really took hold of me.

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I graduated from high school in 1978, and the 80s came around, and one of the outside

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issues in the 80s was that white stuff.

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And yeah, that accelerated my drinking because a great big line of that and shots of tequila,

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and I was off and running.

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And what happened was, again, I was a cocktail witch, which was a great job for an alcoholic.

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The busboys all dealt drugs to us, and we could drink all we wanted.

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We had a lot of fun.

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We had a lot of fun.

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And I would lose jobs.

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I argued that I didn't want that job.

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There was another restaurant that was hiring me, so I let it go.

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I got too drunk to show up for work.

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We would close down the restaurant, open up the service bar, and party all night until

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the morning crew was coming.

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And then that was my life.

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And that was when I was functioning.

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And then it got to where I really was having some problems.

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I was losing jobs, and I didn't have another one lined up.

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I was starting to feel the heat.

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Alcoholism.

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I swear I don't remember when it happened, but the list of stuff that I needed to be comfortable for to be okay got to be so big that I couldn't get out of bed without a drink.

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I was having trouble getting to work because I would be drinking and doing drugs all night, and it would be 2 in the afternoon, and I didn't want to stop drinking.

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And yeah, I had a job to get to, and I actually needed a job because they paid me for showing up, but that powerlessness, that step one, powerless over alcohol, I so identify with it because once I took a drink, it took me.

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And as I said, I started losing jobs.

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I drank at home alone.

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I didn't drink in bars anymore.

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I worked at Acapulco's, and it was maybe five, six minutes from my house, but the time that I had to leave the bar at Acapulco's to the time I got home without a drink,

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that five.

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To seven minutes was way too long, so I drank at home alone.

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This will shock you, but my romantic life was not going too well.

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I was still looking for him.

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Drinking at home alone and passing out is not really an attraction for you, and I put a lot of emphasis on guys because I needed a guy to fix me because he was coming along.

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Like I said, I was born in 1960, and in the mid-70s, something changed.

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It was women's lib, and women went to work, and I was still waiting for him.

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He did not come along.

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What did come along was my disease.

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It was in full swing.

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People who think it's cool to drink, and oh, yeah, I had fun.

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I partied.

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My disease took me to I needed to have a drink to get out of bed in the morning, and oftentimes, I would just chug out of the bottle of vodka that I had next to my bed, and sometimes, I'd throw some of it up, and I'd keep drinking, and eventually, enough would stay down, and I'd be off and running.

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This is why I didn't have a career.

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This is why I was not married.

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This is why I did not have children.

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My disease took me really quickly.

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It's fortunate because I got sober at 31, but I had about a two-year spin where I was just drunk around the clock.

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I had very few sober moments.

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I was driving around drunk.

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When I talk about it, it just floors me how bad my disease was.

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I would lose jobs.

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My father, God, he was the best enabler.

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I love my dad.

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He would help me pay my rent and things, and life wasn't good, and there was something wrong.

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It had to be.

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That white-powdered stuff because I'm a nice Irish Catholic girl.

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My whole family drank.

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That was a normal thing, so it wasn't the alcohol.

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It was the white-powdered stuff, and I was going to quit that.

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My definition of quitting it was if I had to buy it or if it was a school night.

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I didn't go to school, and I didn't work at a school, but I referred to it as school night.

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If I had to work the next day, I would not do it.

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If it was offered to me for free, yeah, I was there.

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I really did stop doing a lot of the white-powdered stuff.

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And I kind of was a little perplexed because I got just as high off of booze as I ever did off of the other stuff.

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And I'm like, oh, shoot, I could have saved myself a lot of money.

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And, yeah, my disease of alcoholism was kind of staring me in the face because I knew that drinking wasn't good for me.

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And I would just, it was Thursday night, I was going to have a couple glasses of wine.

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Wine is okay.

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Ladies drink wine.

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It's okay to have a couple glasses of wine.

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I don't know what happened.

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But this is my disease.

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I would come to on Sunday with two empty wine bottles and two empty vodka bottles.

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And I remember Sunday, I would be in a cold sweat, and I'd be shaking.

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And I wouldn't want that drink, but I would need that drink.

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And I'd just gulp the vodka, and I'd hold it in my mouth, and it tasted awful.

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And I'd swallow it.

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I didn't want to drink anymore, but I didn't know how to live.

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And that would be Sunday.

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Monday, I would be in a cold sweat.

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Tuesday, I'd be a little better.

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By Wednesday, I'd be okay.

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I'd be feeling somewhat okay.

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And by Thursday, I was just going to have a drink.

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I was just going to have a glass.

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Wine is what ladies drink.

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It was okay.

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It wasn't a lot of alcohol.

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I was going to have a glass of wine.

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You guessed it.

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I'd come to Sunday with the vodka bottles and the wine.

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I didn't know what to do.

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I knew that if I had a drink, I figured out I had the good sense.

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If I had a drink, it took me.

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I do need to let you know that I would come out of blackouts,

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and there would be people in my home who I didn't know.

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There would be days that I wouldn't remember.

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It didn't dawn upon me this was not normal behavior.

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Luckily, I got...

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I got my one and only DUI.

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How I only got one DUI, I don't know.

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But if you guys don't believe in a higher power,

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I'm here to tell you I do because I drove drunk at least six months,

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and I only got one DUI, and nobody got killed,

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and I didn't get killed, and that's a miracle,

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and that's someone looking out for me,

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and I thank God every day that I didn't have to go through that

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because I know people that did come in after killing someone.

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I don't know if I could have dealt with that.

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But I got my one and only DUI.

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It was a Halloween party at Toppers.

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It was a restaurant bar in San Francisco.

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Santa Monica.

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I showed up drunk.

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I left drunk.

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I came out of a driveway.

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I don't remember a lot.

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The 80s is like really a fog because I just don't remember a lot.

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I used to have to fill out job applications.

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I'm like, I know I worked at places, but I don't know where.

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Thank God I don't have to do that anymore.

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Anyways, I came out, and I guess I made a wide left turn,

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and I hit some construction pylons.

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I don't know, and this one lady was making a great big deal,

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and they called the police, and I'm like, what the heck?

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I spent the night in the Santa Monica drunk tank.

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Actually, not that big a deal.

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For me, I was mortified.

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Oh, my God, I was going to jail, and I'd never been to jail,

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and they actually handcuff you, and they don't put your handcuffs on

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so they're in front so you're comfortable.

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They have them behind your back, and then they put you in a car,

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and that's really not conducive to comfort.

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I don't know about these police officers, but they were in front.

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I remember trying to get them in front, and he goes, what are you doing?

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I said, I'm not comfortable, and he's like looking at me like,

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lady, just stay still.

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So anyways, I spent the night in the Santa Monica drunk tank,

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and I got released on what they called my own recognizance.

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I didn't know what that meant.

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My father picked me up that next morning,

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and I was just totally mortified that I'd spent the night in jail.

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It's like I said, I heard people go to Twin Towers now.

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I got off easy.

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I actually was lucky because I got my DUI in October.

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My sobriety date's February, by the way, and that was the end of October,

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and that mandatory that you had to go to jail if you got a DUI happened in 91,

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and my DUI was in.

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It was in 1990, so yeah, I was really lucky.

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Anyways, my father took me home.

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He decided that it was a good idea that I never drank again,

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and I went home, and I was upset because I spent the night in jail,

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and it was not a fun party, and I needed a drink,

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and I had a bottle of vodka, and I had to look for it.

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I had a one-bedroom apartment, and I used to hide my bottles,

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and I was looking all over for my bottles.

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I've heard lots of people that hide their bottles.

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The thing is I lived alone, so I still to this day don't know

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why I was hiding my bottles.

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But I had to find it, and I did, and I drank it,

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and I was never going to drink and drive again.

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My father says, I don't think you should drink again.

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I said, well, I'm not going to drink and drive again,

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and he looked at me like, I don't know, and he didn't know what to do.

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He suggested AA because I had cousins in the program.

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Now I think they'd charge you for that.

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Anyways, so I got my DUI at the end of October, and I did drive drunk.

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I remember another time.

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I swore I wasn't, and I don't even remember the circumstances, but I was.

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And you know when you have enough alcohol,

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and you feel real brave.

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Luckily, I didn't get pulled over by the cops.

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Luckily, I did not have any trouble.

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But when I went to court, they sentenced me to so many AA meetings,

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and I had to go to this like alcohol counseling classes.

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I don't know.

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My dad paid for it.

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My dad was a really good guy.

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He was an enabler.

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And I showed up, and basically it was kind of like AA.

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We would share.

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This guy Norm would come and share, and Norm had done everything.

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After Norm shared.

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He was the leader.

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You're really comfortable sharing just about anything, because he had done it all.

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And I met some guys there, and I'd always gotten along with guys better than girls.

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And so, by the way, I have to back step.

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I didn't call this place, the alcohol counseling place, until the day of the deadline.

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I was a procrastinator.

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That was one of my biggest defects.

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And I waited until that day, and I guess it was around February.

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No, actually it was end of January, beginning of February.

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Anyways, I called.

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And the woman asked if I had a problem with alcohol.

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And I don't know why, but I said yes.

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And I had the phone to me, and I said yes.

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And then I pulled it away, because I was waiting for her to scream and tell me what a weak,

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awful person I was.

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And most people can handle their alcohol.

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And there was something wrong with me.

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Because that's how I was made to feel, because alcoholics were the people in the gutters

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with the raincoats and all that stuff.

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And I was just waiting for her to yell at me.

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But I pulled the phone away, because I knew I was going to get yelled at.

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But what happened was, she said,

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I said, that's okay, I do too.

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And I pulled that phone so close.

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I was like, wait, wait, what did you say?

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Can you repeat that, please?

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And basically, I ended up going to my first AA meeting.

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And everyone was really nice.

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And they gave me their cards.

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And I thought, why is it you people want to know me?

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And they were nice, clean, lovely people.

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And I have 15 minutes, so I have to go ahead.

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I got a sponsor.

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I worked the steps, but I didn't really.

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When I did my fourth step, I'm like, I didn't sleep with Mr. Jones' wife.

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And I didn't.

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I didn't really understand the columns and stuff.

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And I'm like, I didn't covet.

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Yeah, no.

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So anyways, my sponsor said, who did you do damage to?

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And I told her the truth.

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I did a lot of damage to myself.

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I did.

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I didn't think clearly enough that, you know, now I tell my sponsors, who pissed you off.

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Okay, that's a really good way for me to do a fourth step.

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But she told me just to forgive myself.

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And met my husband in AA.

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He came in when I had six months.

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And we were really good friends.

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We were really good friends for five years.

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I remember I did do what was suggested.

18:19

I stuck with the winners.

18:20

I sat in the front of the room.

18:22

Went to a lot of meetings.

18:24

I used to go to six meetings a week.

18:27

Waited that year to date.

18:28

Dated Mr. Oh-So-Wrong.

18:30

I dated a very angry, very abusive, verbally abusive alcoholic.

18:36

And I was with Mr. Oh-So-Wrong for four years.

18:39

And I don't bring this up to put him down.

18:41

I bring this up to show you just how bad my self-esteem was.

18:44

And around four years of sobriety, four and a half years of sobriety,

18:49

my life did get better.

18:51

I got better jobs.

18:52

I was with Mr. Oh-So-Wrong because I was still waiting for him

18:55

because I was never going to do anything with my life

18:58

because I was not smart and I was not talented

19:00

and I still was looking for him to take care of me.

19:03

And I always heard not to make a list of everything you want

19:07

because you'll do yourself short.

19:08

My higher power gave me nothing that I wanted

19:12

when I first came in this program.

19:13

And I thank God every day that he didn't

19:15

because the life I got is so much different than what I wanted.

19:18

What happened was when I was about four and a half years sober,

19:22

I got a call at work and my father had fallen down the stairs

19:25

and he was in the hospital.

19:27

And I swear I just raced out of there.

19:29

I was driving on the wrong side of the street.

19:31

I got there as quick as I could.

19:33

And I found out the next day that he had severed his spinal cord

19:37

and he was paralyzed from the neck down and he was going to die.

19:40

And I love my father more than anything in the world.

19:43

He was a great man.

19:43

He was a great man.

19:43

He was a great man.

19:43

He was like my life.

19:45

And boy, that was a hard time.

19:47

And I remember I was waiting for the...

19:48

And he's been dead over 20 years and it still gets to me.

19:51

But I remember I was waiting for the family to show up

19:53

because I live close by him.

19:55

My siblings live down in Orange County and I was waiting.

19:57

And every time the elevator bell would ring, I would look out.

20:01

And one time the elevator bell rang and I looked out

20:03

and Jack N., who has since passed away,

20:06

he's one of the old-timers from my Monday night meeting,

20:08

he was there and I said,

20:09

Jack, is that you?

20:10

And he said, yes.

20:11

He goes, oh, honey, what's wrong?

20:12

I guess he could tell.

20:13

I was a little...

20:13

I was a little upset and I told him

20:14

and he sat there with me

20:16

and he waited until the rest of the family showed up

20:18

and he let everybody at the meeting know what was going on

20:21

and you people carried me through that.

20:24

It was really, really hard.

20:25

In fact, we had to ask the hospital

20:28

to have my father unplugged

20:29

because they didn't want to do it.

20:31

He wanted to be unplugged

20:32

but they weren't going to do it

20:33

and it was just ironic or a God shot

20:36

or my higher power working,

20:38

whatever you want to call it.

20:39

But the night that my father was being unplugged,

20:41

Jack Nisan and his...

20:43

or Jack N and his wife showed up

20:46

and this is one of the kindest, most loving men

20:49

that I knew in the program

20:50

and you know what?

20:51

Having him there just meant so much to me

20:53

and after that, I was still with Mr. Oh So Wrong

20:59

and I remember he said,

21:00

your father's been dead a week.

21:02

Can you quit being so self-absorbed?

21:03

You need to be over it.

21:05

And I said, well, I'm over you

21:07

and I was done.

21:09

I didn't care if I ever got married.

21:12

I was like...

21:13

I was like 35 years old

21:14

and had never been married and was single

21:16

and that was it.

21:17

I was going to raise my nephew

21:19

because my brother was on his second or third wife.

21:21

I don't remember

21:22

and I was just going to get on with my life

21:25

and what happened was

21:26

this guy came into our Monday night meeting

21:29

when I had six months

21:30

and his ex-wife was my girlfriend

21:33

that I went to school with.

21:34

My dad was her teacher.

21:35

Very small world, AA.

21:36

Anyway, she and I became friends

21:38

and I remember Mark was just really nervous

21:40

when he first came in

21:41

and I said, hey, you know,

21:43

we're all in our first year.

21:44

We're all nervous.

21:45

Don't worry.

21:45

Hang with us.

21:46

We'll show you what to do.

21:47

And he and I were really good friends

21:49

and after my dad died,

21:51

I remember I tried calling him several times

21:53

because he was a really good friend.

21:54

Long story short,

21:55

we've been married, I think, 21 years.

21:58

20 or 21 years.

21:59

I know we got married the day of the SC Stanford game.

22:02

I know it was in November

22:03

but I think it's 20 or 21 years.

22:05

Anyways,

22:06

and I got busy.

22:09

I got busy in the program.

22:11

I was married.

22:13

I decided to go back to school

22:15

and I didn't think I could

22:17

but I worked with a girl

22:18

and she goes, I'll help you.

22:20

And I went back

22:20

and I was just going to get an associate's degree

22:22

so I'd be more hireable

22:23

because the companies I was working for

22:25

would downsize

22:26

or they were taken over by another corporation

22:29

and you know what?

22:30

There was not a lot of job security

22:31

and when I was in college,

22:32

I heard them talk about the future teacher's track

22:34

and I went, oh, I could be a teacher.

22:36

They get Christmas, Easter, and summer vacation.

22:38

I can do that.

22:40

And I went back to school

22:41

and you know, at first,

22:43

I thought, no,

22:43

at least some more people can go to school.

22:45

That's not true

22:46

because I went to school

22:47

and I graduated

22:47

and I did pretty well.

22:48

I did what you people taught me.

22:50

I sat in the front of the room.

22:51

I stuck with the winners.

22:53

I got a teaching credential.

22:55

I've been teaching,

22:56

I think, 17 or 18 years,

22:57

somewhere around there.

22:58

I was meant to teach.

22:59

I love teaching.

23:00

Not every day.

23:01

Jerry and I were comparing war stories

23:03

but I love my job

23:04

and I get paid to do it.

23:05

Problem is, I got busy.

23:08

I was going to school full time.

23:10

That invalid mother

23:11

that was such an issue,

23:13

embarrassment.

23:14

Yeah, most parents leave money.

23:15

Dad left his mom

23:16

and I got to take care of her

23:17

and I took care of her for 13 years

23:19

and I made a living amends to my father

23:20

by taking care of her.

23:21

My husband and I would throw her in the car.

23:23

We'd take her to the beach.

23:24

We'd take her to the movies.

23:25

We'd take her to the Amundsen.

23:27

We took her everywhere.

23:28

We took her to the concerts in the park.

23:29

My mom and I got to be really, really close.

23:33

Thing is, I was going to school

23:35

and I was married and I was busy.

23:37

And I told you I hadn't completely worked

23:40

the 12 steps

23:40

and I definitely wasn't working the 12 steps.

23:43

I didn't go out and drink

23:45

but you know that restless,

23:47

irritable and discontent?

23:48

Yeah, I had that hat.

23:51

I was going to a meeting once a week

23:53

but I don't think I was really going to the meeting.

23:55

I'm sure I was thinking of a grocery list

23:57

or this or that.

23:57

My head wasn't in AA

23:58

and I got restless, irritable and discontent.

24:01

And I was at my school

24:03

and we were merging with the primary center

24:05

and there was a woman.

24:06

They had all the meeting of the special ed teachers

24:08

and there was a woman

24:09

and I knew her when my husband and I

24:11

used to go to a meeting Friday night

24:12

in the valley.

24:13

When I moved out here,

24:14

the only meetings my husband went to

24:16

were on the west side

24:17

because he worked there.

24:18

And we never went to any meetings out here.

24:20

There are meetings out here, by the way.

24:21

We've found them since then.

24:23

But I said to her,

24:25

I said, who's your sponsor?

24:27

And she said, why do you want to drink?

24:29

And I said, no, I just get pissed off a lot.

24:31

And so she introduced me

24:34

to a group of her girlfriends

24:35

and I started working with a sponsor.

24:36

My friend Bruce told me

24:37

about a Saturday night meeting.

24:38

Bruce lives in Santa Clarita

24:40

but he goes to my Monday night palettes.

24:42

Palisades meeting,

24:43

which I still go to.

24:45

My husband and I still go there every Monday night.

24:46

The rest of our meetings are in the valley.

24:49

And what happened was

24:51

I got back in the program

24:52

and I started going to more meetings

24:54

and my husband's like,

24:55

you can go to a meeting every Saturday.

24:57

And I said, yes, you don't have to,

24:59

but I'm going to.

24:59

He's like, fine, I'll go.

25:01

He actually loves the meeting.

25:02

He actually goes to more meetings than I do now.

25:04

What happened was

25:05

when I first got sober,

25:07

I call it, I dipped my toe in the AA pool.

25:11

I am now completely submerged

25:12

in the AA pool.

25:12

I am now completely submerged in the AA pool.

25:12

I am now completely submerged in the deep end.

25:14

If I don't say anything tonight,

25:16

these 12 steps that are on the wall,

25:18

I have them in my pocket.

25:20

I actively work them.

25:21

Physical sobriety is okay,

25:23

but emotional sobriety is so much better.

25:25

Working these 12 steps on a daily basis

25:28

is what I do.

25:29

And when I do that, my life's pretty good.

25:31

I was telling Jerry that when I remember to pause

25:34

and that God's in charge in the classroom,

25:36

the days go a lot better.

25:38

I haven't had a drink

25:40

in over 28 years.

25:42

I haven't had a drink in over 28 years.

25:42

I have been an alcoholic

25:43

on numerous occasions

25:44

during those 28 years

25:46

and my alcoholism

25:47

can look something like this.

25:48

I have one kid

25:49

that was like throwing things

25:50

and running around the classroom

25:51

and just behaving terribly.

25:54

And a half hour later,

25:55

her behavior is letting her color.

25:58

Now, when I work my program,

26:00

I stop and pause and go,

26:02

okay, she's quiet, I can teach.

26:04

When I forget to work my program,

26:05

it's like, what are you doing coloring?

26:07

You did not behave.

26:08

You interrupted the lesson.

26:09

You're not going to color.

26:10

Now, Jerry already knows what happened.

26:12

She's just going to melt down

26:13

and start throwing things

26:14

and run around the room again.

26:15

And me, the sober member of Alcoholics Anonymous,

26:18

says, you're not going to color.

26:19

You don't get to color.

26:20

That is my disease today.

26:22

You know, it's just, it never goes.

26:25

I try and work this program

26:27

to the best of my ability.

26:29

I sponsor some women.

26:31

I listen.

26:33

Honestly, when I sponsor,

26:34

I think about God and the steps.

26:36

All I have is the steps.

26:37

That's what the program is to me,

26:38

working the steps.

26:39

Mariana has heard this.

26:41

I tell everyone,

26:41

when I have a circle around me,

26:43

step one, two, and three is that circle.

26:44

Everything in that circle,

26:46

I have complete control over.

26:47

I have no control over the children in my room.

26:49

I should know that by now.

26:51

As I said, I've been teaching 17, 18 years.

26:53

They don't listen to a darn thing I say,

26:54

and they don't do what I tell them to.

26:55

I have five minutes left.

26:57

Okay.

26:58

I have no control over how people feel about me,

27:01

whether or not people like me,

27:02

whether or not there's traffic on the freeway.

27:04

I have no control over any of that.

27:06

I do have control over who I associate with,

27:09

whether or not I leave early enough to get somewhere,

27:11

all that other stuff.

27:14

When things don't work well, I turn it over.

27:17

I like turning it over to God.

27:19

Like I said, when I first came here,

27:21

I was looking for him,

27:22

and him was going to marry me and take care of me,

27:24

and I was going to be a housewife

27:26

that just went to the gym all day.

27:28

I've actually ended up kind of supporting my husband

27:30

because he lost his business for a while.

27:32

We're both working now,

27:33

but it wasn't what I wanted when I came in.

27:36

I love my life today.

27:37

I have a life that is absolutely,

27:41

truly amazing.

27:42

I have the best life.

27:45

I'm not rich.

27:46

I'm not famous.

27:47

I don't want to be famous.

27:50

I work for a living.

27:51

I have to do dishes.

27:53

I break nails.

27:53

I've already told you I work with little people

27:55

who don't listen to me.

27:57

I'm married to an alcoholic,

27:59

and when I wake up with the sober eyes,

28:03

I have a wonderful, loving, great husband.

28:06

When I wake up on other days,

28:08

it's like, well, he didn't clean up this,

28:10

and he didn't do that,

28:11

and oh my God,

28:11

he's screaming at the people in the car,

28:13

and where is his program?

28:14

I have a good sponsor.

28:16

She tells me to take my eyes off of him

28:18

and look at me.

28:19

There goes that circle.

28:20

See, my husband's not in that circle.

28:22

I'm in that circle.

28:22

Everything in that circle is my business.

28:24

I can control that.

28:25

Everything else,

28:26

I don't get to have any control over.

28:28

If something bothers me,

28:30

it's not why is that bothering me.

28:31

It's what the heck's the matter with me

28:33

that it's bothering,

28:33

and I have to go to my fourth step,

28:36

and I have to look at what's wrong with me.

28:38

And I do that a lot,

28:40

and life's,

28:41

pretty darn good.

28:43

Like I said,

28:43

I still gotta go to work.

28:44

I get up at 5 a.m.

28:46

I'd like work a lot better

28:47

if I didn't have to get up at 5 a.m.,

28:49

but I get paid for something I love.

28:51

I have a lot of friends.

28:54

I love being sober.

28:56

There is someone here that's new.

28:58

When I first came here,

29:00

I remember someone said,

29:01

do you have a sponsor?

29:01

And I said,

29:02

well, I'm not really jonesing

29:03

for a drink in the middle of the night,

29:04

so I don't need one.

29:05

And they said,

29:05

no, they help you work the steps.

29:07

And I remember looking at a flight of steps,

29:08

and I'm like, huh?

29:09

I had no idea.

29:11

I had cousins that were sober,

29:13

and I came here,

29:14

and I thought maybe you'd let me drink

29:15

and teach me how to drink.

29:16

How I thought that,

29:17

I don't know,

29:18

because I had two cousins that were sober.

29:20

But this program works if you work it.

29:23

It's the best thing that's ever happened to me.

29:26

I'm gonna stop early

29:28

because no one wants somebody rambling.

29:31

And thank you very much for having me

29:32

and listening to me.

29:34

You guys have been an absolutely wonderful crowd.

29:36

Thank you very much.