Kim's Journey: From an East Coast Alcoholic Home to Sobriety
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Kim's Journey: From an East Coast Alcoholic Home to Sobriety

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Kim shares her upbringing in a Pennsylvania household where alcohol was normalized, recounts the discovery of her father’s daily drinking habit, and reflects on her own early binge drinking, blackouts, and double life as a gymnast. She discusses her sobriety since 2008, the role of her sponsor, and the ongoing process of uncovering family history while navigating marriage and motherhood.

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- Hi, my name is Kim and I am an alcoholic.

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I love that I can hide behind this thing.

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Like it really, it's like I can talk like this.

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I don't feel so exposed for some reason.

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Sometimes you stand in front of the room

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and there's like a podium and you're like,

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you feel very exposed.

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This one I feel like I can really hide behind.

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So thank you for that.

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Deep breath.

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I knew I was gonna take this off as soon as I got up here

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because I got a flash from the nerves.

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Thank you.

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Yeah, thank you for asking me to come out

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and share my experience, strength, and hope.

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And letting me participate in my sobriety and welcome.

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I, this is still really weird.

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Okay, there I go.

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I have a sobriety date.

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February 24th, 2008.

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I have a sponsor and she knows she's my sponsor.

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And I say that because I've heard that somewhere

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and I was like, oh, that's a really, you know,

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it's a good thing that your sponsor knows

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that she's sponsoring you.

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And my sponsor has a sponsor,

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which I think is really important too.

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I grew up in Pennsylvania.

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I'm an East Coast girl

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and I definitely was raised in an alcoholic home.

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Both of my parents loved to drink and party,

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but I didn't, like growing up,

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I didn't know it was an alcoholic home.

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Like I just thought this was how people live.

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You know, my dad drank every single day,

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every night when he got home.

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Still to this day, he has a rotor.

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Get in the car from work and he has a rotor.

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Whenever he gets in his car,

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he has a beer between his legs.

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It's a rotor.

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I mean, it's just something that he does.

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Rotor, oh, is that an East Coast thing?

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I don't know.

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Yeah, it was a rotor.

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Like he went, he didn't go anywhere without a rotor.

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Still doesn't, it's so weird to me.

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Anyway, I did not know that my dad was an alcoholic

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and I did not know that I was living in dysfunction.

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But you know, now with,

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after reading the big book of Alcoholics Anonymous,

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when I read the doctor's opinion,

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I was like, oh wow, yeah, that's alcoholism.

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And I did not believe I was an alcoholic

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because I didn't drink like my dad

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or drink like really anybody that I was related to, you know.

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My dad drank every night and he drank and got really wasted

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and my mom and dad would fight viciously.

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And growing up, I didn't meet my dad till I was seven.

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My parents did not get together.

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They weren't allowed to be together.

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So my dad's family kind of shipped him off

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and my mom had me and she had another baby by him

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and he was put up for adoption.

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So I met my dad when I was seven

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and I'm finding out now that I had a sister

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that was put up for adoption that I didn't know at the time

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until about two years ago.

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So I share this with you because all of these things

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I'm finding out in sobriety and it's so crazy to me

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because I thought I had a really close relationship

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with my mom and I probably did.

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I mean, I'm not saying that this information

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makes me not have a good relationship with my mom,

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but I felt like she was my best friend.

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She was my drinking buddy.

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I told her everything.

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I thought she told me everything.

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And she did, as I come to understand now,

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the more sober that I am, she did the best she could do

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with the tools she had, right?

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Like, and I respect her so much for that,

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for keeping me and I wanna thank the both of you

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for your stories, for your shares.

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I related a lot to them.

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I think I drank pretty normally.

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Like I went to keg parties on the weekends.

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I was a gymnast and a cheerleader.

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So I kind of lived that double life of partied

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at keg parties and then I still went to gymnastics

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and I competed in gymnastics.

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And it wasn't until my senior year that my coach said

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to me, could you please not drink this coming weekend

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because you reek of alcohol?

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And I was like, oh yeah, sure, I won't.

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No worries, no worries.

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But you know, looking back on that,

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I don't think that's something that a high school coach

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should probably be saying to her 16 or 17 year old gymnast.

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Looking back on that now.

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Anyway, I'm gonna pause for a minute

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and just take a deep breath because.

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So I thought I was drinking pretty normally.

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However, I did have an older boyfriend

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that I think the first time I ever drank,

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the first time I ever got drunk was actually the first time

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I ever drank and I blacked out.

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So that might be a clue that I would be an alcoholic.

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Not to me then, but now like duh, who drinks and blacks out

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and then continues to live like that the rest of their life?

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I mean, it's kind of baffling to me now thinking about it.

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But I didn't drink like that my whole life.

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Like there were periods of time that I controlled

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and enjoyed my drinking.

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It wasn't something that like I drank from high school

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until, you know, I decided to get sober.

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I mean, I went, I had a job, I got married.

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I have had a child.

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We moved out here from Pennsylvania.

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I moved out here from, I'm sorry, from Florida.

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I met my husband in Florida.

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We lived in Florida for 15 years before moving out here.

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But I met my husband in Florida.

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I was a hairdresser, I did his hair.

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And, you know, I just thought it was normal.

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We would go out every weekend.

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I was probably one of the only girls

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that went out with all of his guy friends

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and we would party every weekend.

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I mean, I didn't think that was a big deal, right?

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I was the only girl, which I don't,

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I mean, looking back on it now, I don't know.

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I just felt like that was okay too.

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And I guess I didn't black out every time I drank,

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but most of the time I did.

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And it was never an issue.

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Like I didn't think it was at the time.

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Looking back on it, the day we got married,

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I was so nervous and I just did not want

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to walk down the aisle and be a blubbering idiot

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standing up there saying my vows to my husband.

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So my friend was like, "You should take a Valium."

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And I'm like, "Well, I don't wanna take one

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the day of my wedding.

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Let me try one the day before,

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because I wanna know what I'm gonna feel like.

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Like, I don't wanna just pop something

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and not know what I'm gonna feel like."

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So I took that Valium the day before.

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I know this is a medium alcoholics anonymous.

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Drugs are a part of my story.

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However, I absolutely, my drug of choice is alcohol.

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It's the easier, softer way for me.

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But this Valium was like, I really liked how quickly

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and without having the breath,

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like the smell of alcohol on my breath,

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I loved how it made me feel.

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Like it just literally, it was like that glass of wine

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without the glass of wine.

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And my shoulder just went from like being like this to,

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and I like walked down the aisle.

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It was on the sand.

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And I just remember thinking, "Oh yeah, I like this."

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And then of course I drank and drank and drank and drank

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after that, because I mean,

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I didn't take the Valium to like get messed up.

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I just wanted to chill out, right?

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Drank so much on my wedding night.

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All of my friends stayed up all night long.

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My family too.

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We slept out on a beach chair on the ocean.

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My husband and I woke up in the middle of the night

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and it was like, you know, all dewy, misty.

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This is in Florida.

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And I just thought, "Oh, this is normal."

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And he left the next day to come out to California.

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And he gave me two days of his life for our wedding

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because he was working and he was working on a show

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in Florida and then he was coming out here

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to start a new show.

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And I, again, thought nothing of it, no big deal.

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But it's interesting how we pick our partners that,

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like he's not always there and he's still not always there.

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And it works for our, it works for us.

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But it's interesting how even back then,

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like it wasn't apparent to me that,

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"Oh, he's not gonna be around.

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And that's gonna be a great marriage

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because he's not gonna be there.

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And I'm gonna be able to drink and do what I want,

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when I want, how much I want.

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And he's not gonna even know."

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So we continued to live like that.

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We moved out here when I was pregnant,

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six months with our son.

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And I think that's really when my drinking career kicked in

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because my family lived in Florida.

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I was really close to my mom and dad.

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And I lived like within minutes of walking to them.

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And we moved out here and my husband went straight to work,

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you know, 14 hour days and I was lonely.

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And I felt isolated and I couldn't wait

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for him to leave for work so that I could drink.

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Alcohol was my best friend.

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It was like, it just did for me

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what I could not do for myself.

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Like it just, it was, I took a sip

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and I drank and drank and drank

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and he would come home and be kind of disgusted with me

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because I guess I'd be really wasted

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or passed out or incoherent or whatever.

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And you know, for a few years,

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he never said anything to me about it.

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At least my recollection,

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he never said anything to me about it.

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And that's when my, like I drank every single day,

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every weekend, I would put my son to sleep and just drink.

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That was my life, drinking, sleeping, eating, drinking.

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I mean, it was just kind of pathetic.

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Then my next little, my next little level of alcoholism

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really kicked in when my mom died.

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And I really related to what was shared earlier.

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I was in so much pain physically, mentally,

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obviously spiritually that all that I could do was drink

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and take pills to numb my feelings.

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I didn't want to feel anything.

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I did not want to feel good, bad.

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I didn't want to feel my toe hurt.

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I, you know, I didn't want to,

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if I had a headache, no matter what.

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So for me, I just drank to oblivion every single day.

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And I was in a car accident

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and I really don't remember it

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other than I was sitting there and when I came to,

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I saw the flashing lights behind me in my car

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and I was just sitting there

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and I remember I had a coffee cup

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'cause it was like 11 o'clock in the morning.

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I had just dropped off our son at school

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and my coffee went all over the dash.

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And I was like, oh wow, I guess those fire trucks

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and police are here for me.

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And I'm like, oh wow, yeah, I'm in a,

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I was in a car accident on Ventura Boulevard,

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right in front of this yellow balloon kid's

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hair cutting place and I do not remember calling AAA.

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I don't remember, I don't remember anything.

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The next thing that I remember is being at home

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and locking myself in my room.

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And I don't know how I managed to get ahold of someone

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to pick up our son from school, bring him home.

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I locked myself in the bedroom.

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I wouldn't let my husband in.

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I was just, I was just so embarrassed

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that I had just wrecked, totaled our car.

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And it was minutes after I had dropped off my son at school

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and I was like, waking up out of that,

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I was so disgusted with myself,

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but not disgusted of course enough to stop drinking then.

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So, you know, that's just how I drank.

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I drank to blot out my feelings, I guess.

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I mean, yeah, I just drank to cover up things.

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I'm just trying to kind of qualify as an alcoholic

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that like I drank like maybe some of you did, I don't know.

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Another memory that I have of my drinking

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was waking up in my car, I don't even remember where I was,

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but I woke up and I was in my passenger seat

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and I was like, what the, where am I?

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And calling my husband and being like,

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I just woke up and I'm at my friend's.

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And he's like, I've been looking for you forever.

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I'm so worried about you.

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I'm like, I'm fine, I'm at so-and-so's house

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and I'll be home as soon as like we have plans,

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we're going sleigh riding up in the mountains.

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And I'm like, oh God, with the kids and families.

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And I'm like, I can't handle this.

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But I went home and I snuck a little thing of vodka.

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I'll never forget.

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And I like went in the bathroom

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and like chugged this little thing of vodka

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just so that I could deal with driving up to the mountains.

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And then we had to go get like a sticker in your car

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to go in to the Frasier mountains.

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I don't remember exactly, but when we went into this,

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I don't know, into this store,

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they had little bottles of alcohol

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and I grabbed a tomato juice and I was like,

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oh yeah, I'm going to get a tomato juice

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and I'm going to get two of those vodkas.

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I'm going to take some of the tomato juice.

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And like, I had it planned out.

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I could not physically or mentally deal with

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being around my husband, his friends, their kids, my kids.

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I was just like, I can't do this.

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I had to have alcohol in my system.

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I was like, I chugged one of the little bottles of vodka

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and then I drank the other one afterward or in my, in that.

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And I was like, again,

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then I could deal with life on life's terms, I guess.

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I mean, thank God today, that's not my life.

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I didn't get, I went to my first AA meeting

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two or three days after that car accident.

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And I had met a girl, I went to yoga teacher training

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and I had met a girl in this yoga teacher training

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that was a member of Alcoholics Anonymous.

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And I did not know she was a member of Alcoholics Anonymous.

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She was simply a girl that listened to me

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in my drunken stupors.

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I would call her and tell her what was going on.

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And she never shared with me that she was sober.

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And what I find so compelling about this woman is that,

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I mean, probably for two years, she just listened to me.

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And I remember her saying things to me like,

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I wish I could drink like that.

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And why can't you?

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I mean, just thinking, I didn't bother to ask her

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why she couldn't, I was probably so self-absorbed, right?

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That I didn't care why she couldn't drink like that.

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But I also noticed that every weekend she was like,

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went to picnics and had all these friends

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and she was always answering the phone.

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Oh yeah, we're going to celebrate so-and-so's birthday

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and never talk about attraction rather than promotion.

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I mean, she was such an example of this program

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and she turned out to be my Eskimo as they call it.

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And then she also ended up being my first sponsor.

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So she brought me to my first meeting of Alcoholics Anonymous

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and it was a woman's meeting on like,

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I think it was in Burbank Boulevard.

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The meeting is not in the same location,

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but it's still there.

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It was a Tuesday night women's meeting.

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And I remember walking into that room

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well, before I left to go to the meeting,

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my husband was like, I said, oh, I'm just too tired.

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I don't think I'm going to go tonight.

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And he's like, you had better go somewhere

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because you're not staying here.

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And I was like, whoa.

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I was thinking to myself, he's serious.

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Wow, I better go.

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Go to this meeting.

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And I walked in and I was like, you know,

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I have my hat on and I just remember walking in

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and everyone was in a circle and I was like,

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go to the back of the room, you know,

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the back of the circle with my hat on and my glasses.

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And I was like, oh,

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their life is all that I could think of.

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I was like, oh no.

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And I had really never heard of Alcoholics Anonymous.

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I mean, I had, you know, I grew up in a really small town

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and my dad, I think had several DUIs.

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He wrecked many vehicles.

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I remember my mom picking him up several times

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where his Jeep would be like literally driven

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into a tree and he would come home like his face bleeding.

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And like, I could, I never, I was like, wow,

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this is kind of crazy.

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He's a crazy drinker.

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But never, it was never talked about.

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sobriety was just never talked about.

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It was not in the vocabulary where I grew up in Pennsylvania.

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I mean, it just wasn't.

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People just drank.

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They were serious alcoholics, I guess.

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And I lost my train of thought, sorry.

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So I'm in this meeting and I started listening

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to Women's Share and I really related

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to what these women were, their feelings.

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And I was like, wow, I kind of feel like that too.

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And I don't want to say that I sat in that meeting

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and felt like I was at home.

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That was not my experience, my first AA meeting.

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And I don't know if it was my first,

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it wasn't my experience for a little while,

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because again, I did not believe I was alcoholic.

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It wasn't until Joy read the book with me.

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She went through that big book of Alcoholics Anonymous

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from the very beginning of the book,

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through each page she read with me.

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I met with her once a week

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and we read for several hours actually.

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And when I read that doctor's opinion,

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I knew the gig was up.

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I was like that I'm an alcoholic.

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That was the first time in my life.

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And I was 39 years old.

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And it was the first time I ever tried to get sober.

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And I was not convinced that I needed to quit drinking.

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I was convinced that I needed to get my husband off my back.

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I needed to get the heat off of me.

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And I was gonna learn how to drink like a lady.

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Because I mean,

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that's why I thought I was coming to Alcoholics Anonymous.

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I was like, there is no way these people don't ever drink.

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They're too happy.

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They're having way too much fun.

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I was like, they're all liars.

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Uh-uh, there's no way that this is alcohol,

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these people are sober.

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So I forget where, at what point my sponsor said to me,

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maybe she didn't even say something to me about it.

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I just remember making the decision

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to do this for one year.

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I was gonna do this for one year.

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And like, I read the steps and the traditions

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and I thought, okay, well, I'll do that one and that one,

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but I'm not doing that one.

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And never in a million years did I think

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that I would go through one through 12 steps.

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I was like, there is no way I'm gonna go through all that.

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And thank God, thank God I did.

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Because it has been my experience,

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that that has given me a new life.

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It has given me, I have learned more about myself,

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good and bad, through walking through those steps

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with my sponsor than I would have cared to know.

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But I am so grateful that I've had that experience.

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And it says, the 12 steps of alcoholics,

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and it says that's, I mean, that's our program.

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It's not not drinking.

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I also remember, I'm gonna backtrack here for a second.

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Before my friend Joy would sponsor me, she said,

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are you willing to go to any lengths?

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And I was like, okay, yeah, sure.

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I didn't know what that meant.

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And then she said, I want you to get this book.

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It's called "Dr. Bob and the Good Old Timers."

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And she said, I want you to order this book and read it.

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And when you're finished, call me.

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And then we can talk and I'm like,

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oh, this is like homework, I don't know.

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I got the book and I think it took me a good month

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to read that book.

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It was pretty dry, but I highly recommend it.

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And what she said to me was, I'm like,

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why do I have to read this?

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And she's like, listen, if you're gonna join something,

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don't you wanna know what you're joining?

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And I'm like, okay, sure.

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I didn't really wanna join anything.

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I just wanted people to get off my back about drinking.

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So I highly recommended that book,

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"Dr. Bob and the Good Old Timers."

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And I lost my train of thought again, I'm sorry.

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So I read that book and we went through the steps

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and I am grateful for strong sponsorship.

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I am grateful to be sober today.

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I wasn't so grateful in the beginning.

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And I think I went, I forgot to mention anything

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about my childhood that I did go to Catholic school.

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I was a good Catholic girl.

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And I was brought up with the fear of God

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and that punishing God that is no longer my God.

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I have found a God of my understanding.

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And for me, my God changes on a daily basis.

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But I also loved when I went through that step

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with my sponsor and how she had me put on one side

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of the piece of paper, what my God was today.

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And on the other side of the piece of paper,

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what I would want my God to be.

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And it was one of the, Alcoholics Anonymous

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isn't somewhere that we, isn't something that we do.

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It's not somewhere that we go.

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Like Alcoholics Anonymous is a way of life.

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Like this is, I can't imagine being anywhere else

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on a Saturday night.

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Like I'm so grateful for my friends that drove me here,

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that came out to this meeting with me.

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I don't get to see them very often,

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but what an honor to have two women

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that want to spend a Saturday night with me

20:19

and pick me up and take me somewhere.

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I mean, and they don't want anything for it.

20:23

Like it's just so, it's this program of Alcoholics Anonymous

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has been, it's given me a life.

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And I don't want to say beyond my wildest dreams

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because really I don't, I didn't have a dream.

20:37

Like I don't, I didn't know what I was doing.

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I was just, you know, going through life drinking

20:41

and doing drugs and I was a party girl

20:44

and having a good time.

20:45

Now, you know, and I did, I enjoyed drinking.

20:48

Like I had a lot of fun.

20:49

There were times in between all of those bad times

20:51

that I enjoyed it and had a lot of fun.

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And I too, I don't think I ever left my house

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without drinking.

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I like to call it, it was a social lubricant for me.

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I didn't, I don't know if I was shy.

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I just was very scared of people.

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I, you know, I was so in my ego and wanted to make sure

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that whatever came out of my mouth that you would like me.

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I was, you know, such a people pleaser

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and would do anything because it's what I,

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what you would want me to do

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or what I thought I should do or what, you know,

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in school, what they told me I should be doing.

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And not for, I would not give, I would not,

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I don't even know how to say it.

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So I'm not, I can't say it, but like my worst day sober,

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I would take it any day over my best drunk, any, any day.

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I had, my son was five when I got sober and, you know,

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thank God, I don't,

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he says that he doesn't remember me drinking.

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Like I didn't, you know, I usually,

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I was good about not drinking and, you know,

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being intoxicated until after he went to sleep at night.

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But I do know that I have a daughter that's,

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she just turned seven.

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And so I have been sober her whole life.

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And I definitely noticed the difference between parenting,

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my five-year-old, well, zero to five.

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And then my daughter, like I'm so much more present.

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And when I got sober and went to things for my son,

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I would, I just could not stop crying.

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Like I would sit at stupid things with him

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and just look and be like in awe of the fact

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that this is someone that my husband and I have,

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like this person comes from me.

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Like, how did I do that?

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And how are they like, like it's, it's fascinating.

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It's, it's a miracle that like, it's just a miracle.

22:45

And then to have a daughter,

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to have someone mirror you when you were that age

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is also really enlightening.

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And she is my, like, I just learned so much from her.

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I'm so grateful that I'm sober to parent.

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I do say at least once a week,

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no wonder my grandmother drank vodka

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first thing in the morning.

23:08

Like that was my grandmother.

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I didn't know it until way later on,

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but she would have a glass of what I thought was water,

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ice water next to the refrigerator and a straw.

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And she would like stand there and, you know,

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sip on her water and drink,

23:21

smoke her cigarette in the kitchen.

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And I thought nothing of it to find out

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that my grandmother got up in the morning

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and drank straight vodka.

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And I'm like, she had four kids.

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She had my mom, my mom's older brother.

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And then she had another family when her dad died.

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She had two more boys.

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And one of them, my uncle is sober 18 years.

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And I just laugh all the time because I'm like,

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I know why people drink.

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I know if I could drink without,

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drink like a normal person, I don't know.

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I don't know that I would.

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I have, there's no reason for me to drink.

23:55

I never enjoyed a glass of wine.

23:58

I was never in to having a glass of wine

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to sip a glass of wine.

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I mean, I don't know about any of you,

24:04

but there was nothing, that's disgusting.

24:06

That wine is disgusting.

24:08

Like I drank because I like the effects

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produced by that alcohol.

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There was nothing.

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I mean, and I probably did drink glamorously sometimes.

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I don't know.

24:18

My mom drank beer her whole life out of a wine glass.

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She would drink her beer out of a wine glass.

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I mean, talk about glamorizing alcohol.

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I mean, yeah, anyway, but I do drink bubbling water,

24:30

bubbly water.

24:31

So now I kind of like the very thin lip.

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It's nothing to do with the glass, whatever,

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that it's a wine glass.

24:36

I just like the thin lip of the glass.

24:39

I can't see what time it is from here,

24:40

but I think I have more time.

24:42

And I, I'm just now relaxing.

24:45

So thank you for, thank you so much for having me here.

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And I'm grateful for my, I'm grateful for my sobriety.

24:52

I'm grateful to Alcoholics Anonymous.

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I'm grateful for my sponsor.

24:56

I'm grateful for Dr. Bob and the good old timers.

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And I never thought I would say this.

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I will be 12 in February.

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I never thought I would say I love AA.

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I love what AA has done for me,

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but I also share with you that AA has done for me,

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but also you have to, we have to walk this walk too, right?

25:18

Like I was listening to someone speak on Wednesday morning

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at a meeting that I've been going to.

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And she was talking about, I mean,

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she has like 40 something years talking

25:27

about long-term sobriety and how, you know,

25:29

each time she goes through her steps,

25:31

like the layers of, you know,

25:33

she was talking about how she just goes deeper and deeper.

25:36

And I'm like, I'm also glad that like,

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we get to come here and I feel like I learned something

25:41

every single day, whether it's in my daily reflections,

25:45

whether it's in my, I mean,

25:47

I read a bunch of different things in the morning.

25:49

I love when I start my day off with prayer meditation,

25:53

even if it's five minutes,

25:55

but if I read something and then I sit quiet

25:57

for a few minutes,

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it is amazing how much better my day goes

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when I give my day up to somebody else,

26:04

because me running the show, it's not, it doesn't look good.

26:07

It's not good.

26:08

It's not a good, it's not a good day most of the time.

26:10

And I have to go back there so many times, you know,

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I have to let it go and give it to God

26:16

and all of those great slogans that I have written down

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in all of my books.

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And I think you have some of them up here.

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Like there's just so many, so many nuggets of truth

26:25

and just, you get to learn so much here.

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I hope that all of you have another 24 hours of sobriety.

26:35

You don't have to drink if you don't,

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if you don't want to ever feel like that,

26:39

you don't ever have to drink again.

26:40

And thank God it's a one day at a time program.

26:43

Like it's just for today, right?

26:46

I'm going through some stuff with my family.

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I have a brother that lives out here and you were speaking,

26:51

someone was speaking of the Visions, or not Visions,

26:54

Tarzana Treatment Center.

26:56

And I have a younger brother that was out here

27:00

and was trying to help him out.

27:02

And he ended up back in treatment.

27:05

And I just had to go through some pretty big things

27:10

with my brother and in my marriage.

27:12

Because when these things happen,

27:14

you kind of have to share them with your husband.

27:16

And he did not want my brother to be around.

27:19

And I let him come to our house for Thanksgiving

27:22

because I thought, well, he hasn't been around

27:24

for four years.

27:24

He's been in jail.

27:25

And I thought, we had family in town.

27:27

I'm like, just let him come to the house for three nights,

27:30

right?

27:31

He needs to have a Thanksgiving.

27:32

He needs some hope also, right?

27:35

And so as it turns out, he took my engagement ring

27:40

and pawned it.

27:42

And it's not the first time he's pawned something of mine,

27:46

but it's the first time he's pawned something of mine

27:48

and I've been sober.

27:49

And I took it really personally.

27:53

Imagine that.

27:54

But what I love about where I am today is that

27:58

I was able to walk through that with dignity and grace

28:03

and share that with my husband and say, what should I do?

28:07

I'd like to go kill him.

28:09

I'd like to call the cops.

28:11

I actually went to my husband and asked him

28:13

what he would want me to do.

28:14

And I have never, if my husband tells me to do something,

28:17

I usually do the opposite.

28:19

And if he tells me not to do something,

28:21

I'm for sure doing it.

28:22

So for me to do that, there's just been this psychic change

28:26

that every once in a while I see it and I'm just like,

28:29

I stand back and I'm like, who are you?

28:32

Where does that come from?

28:33

Comes from Alcoholics Anonymous, from God,

28:36

from walking the walk and talking the talk.

28:39

And yeah, so I got my ring back

28:42

and I didn't have to cause any wreckage with my brother.

28:45

Like I did it.

28:46

I just said, hey, you need to meet me at the pawn shop

28:48

and get my ring back.

28:49

And I got my ring back and I haven't talked to him since then

28:53

and that's fine too.

28:54

But for me to not drink over something like that

28:58

or not, like I was beside myself.

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I wanted to, I didn't want to feel that.

29:04

I didn't want to go through that.

29:05

I didn't want to feel the pain and the, you know,

29:08

I've also learned here too not to take it personally.

29:10

Like had nothing to do with me,

29:12

had everything to do with him, right?

29:14

And when I can get out of myself for just a little bit,

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it's a gift because I definitely relate

29:22

to the committees in your head.

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But now I don't have to stay there as long as I used to.

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So thank you again for having me, and yeah, another 24 to you.