David's Journey: Finding Family and Friendship in AA
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David's Journey: Finding Family and Friendship in AA

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David, an AA member, reflects on how the program turned his loneliness into a supportive family, from his early days in Life’s in Session to lasting friendships in New York. He underscores the power of fellowship, sponsors, and a higher power in sustaining sobriety.

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Now I would like to introduce our main speaker, David.

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>> Good evening.

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My name is David.

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I'm an alcoholic.

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First of all, I want to thank Alex for asking me to come

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out and share with you tonight.

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It's an honor and privilege for me to share in my own sobriety

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and participate in any AA activity.

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It's amazing.

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It's amazing, this program.

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If you're new here tonight, I want to welcome you

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to Alcoholics Anonymous.

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And I hope you find what I've been able to find here,

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which is a different way of life, you know.

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And a lot of new friends, people that I now call my family,

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that I know that I can rely on, because we're here

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to support one another, and we do that.

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And it's in our actions that you get to experience that

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and feel the love and see the love,

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because it's happening around you.

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I was a member of this group, the predecessor group,

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Life's in Session, and that's where we all got started,

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you know, Life's in Session.

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That's where it all got started, at Life's in Session.

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And I got to see people come in and grow up,

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and their families grow up.

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Like Alex, he was a baby when his dad was coming around,

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and other people had, you know, their children around.

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And we all grew up together in this program,

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in this fellowship, in this group.

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And so if you're new here tonight,

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and you don't hear anything else, what I did was, you know,

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I got a home group, Life's in Session.

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I got a sponsor, and I was willing,

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and I followed direction, sometimes suggestion,

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and not always willing to do it, but I did it.

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Built a relationship with a higher power,

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who I choose to call God, and got a friend,

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somebody that came from my same neighborhood in New York City

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that I didn't even know before coming to Life's in Session.

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We lived in the same neighborhood in New York,

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and I never would have known it.

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But I met him here at a Saturday night meeting,

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and, you know, he was attracted to my wife.

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She was his fatal attraction,

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and I wasn't in the fellowship yet,

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but I was, she was coming to meetings here

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at Life's in Session on Saturday night,

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and getting a little bit, getting dressed up

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a little bit prettier every year, you know,

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and every week, you know, and looking nice, you know,

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and smelling fresh, you know, and I was like,

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I need to go down to this meeting here

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and check this thing out,

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and see why she's getting all gussied up, you know,

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find out what's happening, who's looking at my wife,

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you know, and so, lo and behold, you know,

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there's this character from New York,

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he's saying he's from East Harlem, Spanish Harlem.

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He said, "Really, so am I."

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Yeah, yeah, it's from the same neighborhood, wow.

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So we got to reminisce on some of our old neighborhood,

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you know, landmarks, the different churches,

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and different parks and things,

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and different things about New York

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that makes it so special, you know,

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and so that started a friendship that, to this day,

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you know, Tom is like a brother to me.

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You know, we call each other every day.

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Every other day, you know, four or five times a week,

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we're on the phone with one another, complaining.

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Initially it was complaining.

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When he lived in the valley here, we would go to,

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after the meeting, we'd go to McDonald's

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and complain about our wives,

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and complain about our sponsors,

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complain about people in the meeting,

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you know, complain about Avery, you know,

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and don't worry, it gets better, it gets better,

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and built that foundation of a friendship

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that's like a brother, like none other, and similarly,

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I could say that about a bunch of other people here,

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you know, like Bruce.

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Bruce is, you know, like a brother to me.

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He's been able to be there for me, and other people, Eddie.

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I mean, I can go on and on,

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just kind of like name people off, you know,

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and I don't want to do it

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because I don't want to miss anybody and say,

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"Oh, well, you need to talk about me."

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What about me, you know?

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So I'll get a text message when I get back to the car,

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you know, "What about me?"

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Sorry, man, hey, man, I can't talk about everybody.

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But anyway, but that's not what it's about.

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That's not what it's about.

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What it's about is keeping this fellowship going, you know,

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and keeping us supporting one another,

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because like it talks about in the big book,

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you know, we're in a special class,

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we're in a certain class, you know,

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and, you know, no other alcoholic, no other person,

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but alcoholics know who we are and how we are.

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And it takes that special person

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that we all share one thing in common, you know,

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it may be something tiny and minuscule,

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or maybe even larger in your case,

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we all share this one common thing,

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and that's this feeling of loneliness, you know,

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and sometimes it could be varying,

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it could be greater than others at times in your life,

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but that's one thing that consistently has been common

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in my life is this feeling of loneliness.

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And I found when I come to meetings,

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I get that loneliness filled up with love and care

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and support like Robin talked about, you know,

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this group, Kwaath, is still carrying that forward,

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that love and care for one another on the moves

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and the watches and the parties.

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And it's great to see that, seeing that to continue,

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you know, and I feel very much a part of this group

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as if it was life's in session because I have a lot,

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still have a lot of friends here,

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people that I know I can call on,

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people that I know that I can rely on and women too,

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you know, and you'll be there, you will be there.

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So with that being said, Alex already advised me

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that dang, I have to cut my time short tonight.

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Just a few minutes, don't worry, don't be alarmed.

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But he did tell me you got some other stuff

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you gotta take care of, some business you gotta handle here.

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So, you know, I'ma respect that, you know, absolutely.

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You don't have to invite me back out, you know,

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so I can finish the rest of my story.

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(laughing)

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But sticking with the format,

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my sobriety date is March the 5th of 1988.

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So I've been sober 32 years and it's by the grace of God,

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the fellowship of alcoholics and meetings like this,

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friends like this and sponsors that I've been able

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to put these days and weeks and months and years

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and decades together to have this life that I have today,

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you know, and I too was born and raised in New York City

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where there's a lot of crime and violence

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and substance abuse and alcoholism

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and that's just in my family alone.

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But I learned to drink at an early age.

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There's parties or baptisms or weddings or divorces

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or something going on in my house that we had a party,

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you know, and I learned to drink, you know, 14 and 15.

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Now I didn't go out and become a daily drinker,

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but I drank regularly.

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I drank, you know, on a regular basis,

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hanging out with the friends, playing games,

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playing sports or whatever, you know, we'll have beer,

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you know, whatever on Saturday or whatever.

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And so I learned to drink at an early age

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and I believe my father was an alcoholic

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and he drank on a daily basis and for the longest,

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I said, I don't want to be like him.

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I don't want to grow up to be like him, you know,

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and I have four older brothers and sisters.

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My sisters were having kids at an early age

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when it wasn't cool to have kids at 17 and 16 and a half,

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you know, and they were dropping out of school

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and my brother went away to fight a war in Vietnam

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and he came back with a hundred dollar day heroin habit

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and I didn't want to be like him.

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He went off, you know, he was a Marine

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and he went off to Vietnam, big strong man.

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He was six foot two, could kill somebody in 15 seconds,

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could kill another man, you know,

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'cause that's how they trained him to do.

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And when he came back with that heroin habit,

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he was somebody that I did not certainly look up to

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and that I did not aspire to be

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because he was terrorizing the neighborhood,

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robbing our neighbors, you know,

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sticking up the local stores, the bodegas.

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It's a little, it's like 7-Eleven,

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but in New York we call them bodegas, you know.

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I didn't even think 7-Eleven was around then, you know,

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but our version of 7-Eleven.

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And so I didn't want to be like him.

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And so my best friend in high school I used to drink with,

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you know, they say the more you come to meetings,

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you know, the more, you know, more will be revealed.

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And, you know, people say, well come up and they'll say,

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"Oh, well I was a daily drinker, you know,

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and I started drinking, you know, in the morning."

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You know, I'm like, I don't remember drinking in the morning.

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You know, I was a, you know, I was a night drinker,

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you know, like, but then I remembered

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that my friend and I used to buy these little pints

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or half pints of Blackberry Brandy on Subway

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'cause in the wintertime it's cold in New York

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and you get on the subway and, you know,

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we take the subway to school

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and we used to drink these little half pints

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of Blackberry Brandy.

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So, you know, I was a morning drinker, you know,

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and I didn't realize that until after I had come to,

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you know, some meetings after a couple of years, you know.

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And that friend of mine, that was my high school friend,

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his name was Jesus Jesus.

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And he started messing around with drugs

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and skin popping and he OD'd, you know.

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And I was devastated 'cause that was my,

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as you guys call it, road dog, you know.

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And, you know, that was my first real true loss

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that I really felt at a early age.

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And I'm like, damn, you know.

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And so I went on and was given an opportunity

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to go to college and I wanted to be different

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than my brothers and sisters.

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And so I got an opportunity to go the way to college.

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And so I went to a little small business college

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up in Maine, the state of Maine.

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I had been there before on like a camping trip or something,

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but, you know, it was far, far away from New York City

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and snowed there, snowed a lot.

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So for four years, I became a maniac and learned

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to drink a lot of beer, a lot of beer.

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I mean, a lot, a lot of beer.

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I mean, they used to drink it by the kegs, you know.

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And I joined the fraternity because I heard

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they had the answers to all the tests

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and a lot of book reports.

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They had a file cabinet full of like old book reports

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and stuff like that.

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And so I joined this fraternity, you know.

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And, you know, I was playing basketball and things.

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I played on their teams and stuff.

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And so they let me in their fraternity.

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And so I said, hey, I need some exposure to some of these

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exams and things, you know, and these reports and stuff.

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And so, oh, just get it out the cabinet,

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just get what you need.

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I said, oh, okay, cool.

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So the professor would get it, just like, hmm,

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this looks very, sounds very familiar.

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Did you do this report?

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I said, oh yeah, yeah, I stayed up all night

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working on this, you know, copying it, you know.

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And so I lied and cheated my way through college.

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And at the end of four years, they gave me a degree.

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So I went back home to that Spanish Harlem neighborhood

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in New York City and pounding on my chest.

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Yeah, I'm a college graduate.

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That's right, I got my sheepskin, you know.

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And so I was a big man in the projects, you know,

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the big man on campus, you know,

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a big man in the neighborhood, you know.

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And so, but I didn't do anything for a few months.

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You know, I laid on my parents' couch.

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You just kind of, ah, I'm tired.

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It was a rough, rough semester.

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I need, I need to chill out.

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You know, I did a lot of copying, you know.

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And so I need a couple of months off.

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And so I went back to the old neighborhood,

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started doing with the things that I was doing

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before I left, drinking and hanging out with the fellas,

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you know, and playing ball and stuff.

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And, you know, my drinking progressed

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and it wasn't till I realized that, you know,

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that I really needed to drink that I decided that,

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you know, maybe I need to make a change.

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This girl I had dated in college, her parents had,

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her dad had got transferred to, to,

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with his company to, to Huntington Beach

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down in Orange County.

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And they invited me out to come check it out, you know,

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and it was a belong furthest west that I've been ever,

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you know, and so I came to California

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and was living down in Orange County

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and we set up housekeeping.

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Well, her dad said, you know, you cannot,

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she cannot move in with you until she's engaged or married.

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I said, oh, okay, no problem, you know, sorry.

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So I was working at the small little airspace company

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in Los Alamitos and so pulled a couple of overtime shifts

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so that I can, you know, buy this ring

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so this girl can come live with me, you know,

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and so she, I raised up enough money to buy a little ring

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and we got engaged and she moved in with me

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and after a couple of months,

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she told me that I drink a lot like her father

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and that he was an alcoholic

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and she didn't want to be married to an alcoholic.

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So she moved back home and of course I was devastated

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and at the time I didn't think about it, but I'm like,

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I should have got that ring back, you know.

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I think it's probably worth some money, you understand?

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But I didn't and I had a sister that lived out here

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in the Valley and I came and set up housekeeping with her.

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She said, hey, look, you know,

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get a job as a big aerospace company in Burbank,

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you know, they probably could hire you

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and blah, blah, blah, blah, you know,

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and, you know, come stay with me and, you know,

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you just paid a rent and I'll take care of everything else.

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I'll cook, I'll clean, I'll do your shirts,

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I'll do everything.

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Oh, okay, cool.

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Sounded like a ready-made, you know, situation, you know.

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Sounded like a good deal to me.

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So took care of that.

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I got this job at this aerospace company in Burbank.

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They were building these commercial airliners, L-1011s

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and they were hiring a lot of people

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and I got a job there and started making great money

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and bought this new car with T-tops.

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You know, you kind of, not convertible, it's a T-top.

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We take the top off, you know,

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and kind of put it in the back or in the trunk, you know,

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and so I was cruising around town, you know,

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thinking I'm Dan Tana, you know.

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Oh, am I dating myself?

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I'm sorry, oh wow, okay.

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Let me see, Miami Vice, how about Miami Vice?

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Anybody related to Miami Vice?

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Tubbs, they call me Tubbs.

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Anyway, so I started partying, you know,

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partying on the weekends, you know,

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Fridays and Saturday nights and Thursday nights

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and Wednesday nights is ladies nights

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'cause a lot of people don't go out on Wednesday night,

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but hey, ladies night, I'm a ladies man.

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So I got to go out on ladies night.

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So I started going out on Wednesday nights too.

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So Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday

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and try to recover on Sunday, you know,

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and get up and go to work on Monday, you know.

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And so this job was kind of interfering with my partying,

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you know, so, but I knew it was my source of income,

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you know, so, you know, I did the best I could

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and after a while I got old real quick, you know,

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going to the clubs, going to parties, you know,

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going to, you know, these discos and things.

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And I had dated a girl back in New York before I left

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and at one time I went on my trips back to New York

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'cause I used to buy my clothes in the fall in New York

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'cause it'd still be summertime out here.

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So, you know, in New York, they'll have the fall sales,

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you know, 'cause they're getting rid of all of the summer

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stuff, all the fall stuff.

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And so fall stuff would be coming in.

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So I'd go to New York and buy all these nice stuff,

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go nice clothes, I like to dress nice, you know.

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So I'd come back to LA, you know,

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all these nice clothes and things.

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And so on one of these trips, I connected with this girl

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and told her that, you know, I want her to come

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to California, I want her to settle down

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and blah, blah, blah, you know,

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threw one of my lines on her.

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And so we started communicating, you know,

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over the next couple of months,

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I may have made one or two more trips back to New York.

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And so I convinced her to come to California

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and she did so, she was planning on coming in December.

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At first, initially she was gonna come for a couple of weeks

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to check it out and see if this is something

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that she wanted to do, make a move like this.

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But then after the time, you know,

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over the next couple of months,

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I was able to convince her to come,

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hey, just move out here, just move,

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say your stuff and move out here, you know.

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And so she did it, she made that move, you know,

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and I'm glad that she did.

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That was over 37 years ago and we're still married today.

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It's a miracle and a blessing and a blessing.

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But we set up housekeeping and after a couple of months

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while she was here, her father passed away

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and oh no, her mother passed away first.

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And she was concerned about her father,

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so she went back home for a couple of months

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to spend time with her father, get him situated.

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And shortly thereafter, he passed away too.

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And so when she returned, after he passed away,

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she had just one sister and her sister lived in New Jersey.

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And after everything had been settled out,

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you know, she had inherited some money

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and she was suffering from this disease as well.

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And she was blowing a lot of her money

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on some substances that was really eating up our finances.

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And so I told her that she needed to get help

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with her problem or I was leaving, you know.

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And so she did that, she went and got help.

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I told her that my bags are packed, they're in the trunk,

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you know, and this teatop, you know, and I was leaving.

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And so she went and got help.

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She went to this program called VISTA

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where she actually met Bruce and Tom

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and a couple other people that are still around

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in this fellowship, you know.

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And Cheryl and one of the things that,

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one of the requirements of that program,

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there was a lot of programs going on around that time

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and one of the requirements of this program

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was to go to a couple of AA meetings a week

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and so she started doing that, you know.

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And that's where she found Life's in Session.

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You know, Life's in Session had a Thursday night meeting

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there at this program.

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They used their facilities for a Thursday night meeting

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and that's where I met some of these guys

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and then a couple of months later,

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I found the Saturday night Life's in Session meeting.

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And you know, I wasn't an alcoholic originally.

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I came not only to check up on my wife

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and see what she was doing,

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but also, you know, I was living from Peter to Paul

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and you know, my life was unmanageable

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but I didn't see it at the time.

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And they told me, "If you come to enough meetings,

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"you'll hear your story one day."

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And I heard it one day, you know.

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From a young man, different ethnic background,

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different upbringing.

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He was born and raised in the country

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and I was born and raised in the city

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and he was white and I was brown.

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But I identified with the causes and conditions

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and how he drank and why he drank.

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I'm like, "Wow, that's my story, that's my story."

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And I identified and I caught alcoholism

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sitting in one of these meetings

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and started raising my hand

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and did the things that they suggested we do around here.

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Took me a little while to get a sponsor.

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You know, I'm college educated.

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I'm an intellectual and I interviewed a couple of people,

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quite a few potential sponsors, you know.

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And so I asked my wife, you know,

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"Who should I get to sponsor?

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"Who should I get to sponsor me?"

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So she said, "Well, sponsors are the one that pays you

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"when you go out to speak.

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"They pay you $100 when you become a main speaker."

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I said, "What?"

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I said, "$100?"

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I said, "Yeah, that sounds like a pretty good deal.

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"Yeah, all right, that's really a pretty good meeting here.

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"All right."

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So I had asked Chuck, Chuck Andreessen,

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one of the founders or the founder of Life's In Session,

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to sponsor me and she said,

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"Go ahead and ask Chuck about it."

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You know, and so,

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so I go to Chuck and I said, "Hey, Chuck,

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"you know, I told you about, you know,

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"how I'm running from Peter to Paypal

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"and, you know, I'm having some financial difficulties.

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"I know, you know, the lights are turned out

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"a couple of months ago, you know,

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"because I didn't pay the, you know, the DWP bill,

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"you know, and so, you know, I heard, you know,

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"when you become a main speaker and you go out to speak,

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"you know, they pay you $100

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"and I think this would be a good way for me

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"to make some extra couple of extra hundred bucks a month,

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"you know, if I had to go out and become a main speaker,

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"you know, and I had like, you know,

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"68 days or something, you know, and so,

19:57

"but, you know, I'm articulate, I got suits here,

20:00

"I got suits, you know, four or five different color suits,

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"you know, I can do this, you know, and so."

20:04

I'm sure Chuck is laughing up in heaven today,

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still to this day, because listen,

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"No, no, no, we do this for fun and for free, you know,

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"and so, lo and behold, they went my part-time job, you know,

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"or my revenue stream, as it's referred to,

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"these millennials, and so I had to do it

20:28

"the old-fashioned way, stick my nose to the grindstone

20:31

"and just go to work, you know, and not be a big shot,

20:36

"you know, just become a worker amongst the workers,

20:38

"as it talks about in the big book, you know, and so,

20:43

"one of my first experiences in a miracle for me

20:46

"happened when I was, you know, a couple of months sober,

20:48

"I was still reading the big book from cover to cover,

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"and which I recommend newcomers,

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"and don't skip any chapters, cover to cover.

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"I was getting fired from my job.

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"They told me that they put me on progressive discipline,

21:03

"and I was, you know, had about maybe eight months

21:05

"of sobriety, you know, and I went to Chuck,

21:07

"I said, Chuck, you know,

21:08

"they write me up progressive discipline,

21:10

"you know, my manager, you know, I'm in sort of

21:13

"a management position, I work in human resources,

21:15

"and so they're writing me up, you know,

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"for, you know, not meeting expectations of my job,

21:20

"you know, and I thought I was the best thing

21:21

"that ever happened to this company, you know,

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"how dare them write me up like this, you know?

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"That's humiliating, you know?"

21:28

So Chuck said, "Well, I want you to, you know,

21:30

"dust off your resume and start, you know,

21:32

"going out and filling out applications

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"at some companies that may be attracted."

21:35

I said, "What do you mean, fill out applications?"

21:37

He says, "Yeah, go, fill out an application."

21:39

I said, "Oh, wait, no, oh Chuck, you misunderstood me.

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"I am college educated, I have a degree,

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"I have a resume, you know?"

21:46

So I said, "I'll start sending it out."

21:47

He said, "Oh, no, no, no, no, no.

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"No, you're gonna go fill out applications."

21:51

And I'm like, "Oh man, fill out applications?"

21:52

So I had to humble myself and be willing

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to go fill out applications, sit in the lobby,

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and fill it out in hand and paper, not doing it online,

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you know, at home, or in Starbucks, you know?

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Man, I had to fill out this application

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and apply for different jobs.

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In any case, long story short,

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I got a better job making more money, you know?

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And that was one of my first miracles.

22:18

One of my other miracles, I found that,

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because my drinking was like this.

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It would start out like this, me be starting at home,

22:27

drinking at home for a few little bit.

22:29

I drank and blacked out, you know, and danced and partied,

22:33

it was the life of the party, and then get home,

22:35

and then probably wound up urinating on myself

22:37

or someone else.

22:38

I see we have a few other urinators here tonight.

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All right, all right, I'm not alone, I'm amongst my people.

22:45

All right, all right, we got a few more coming up.

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Come on, raise your hand, I know you out there.

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It was the baby, it wasn't me, the baby, the baby did it.

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But I think, you know, I did as they suggested,

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you know, I got a sponsor, read the big book

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from cover to cover, started taking the steps,

23:02

taking them, reading, learning them,

23:04

learning about the principles in each step

23:06

and how to apply it to my life, you know,

23:08

about honesty and open-mindedness and willingness

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and having courage to go sit in that lobby

23:15

and fill out that application and perseverance.

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You know, when things are not going my way,

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just, you know, buckle up and keep it going,

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keep it pushing, you know, and life today is incredible.

23:26

You know, it's not always rosy

23:29

'cause my head gets in the way, you know.

23:30

I still call my sponsor on a regular basis.

23:33

I still see my sponsor on a regular.

23:34

As a matter of fact, I see him every Thursday night

23:37

because I have a must meeting.

23:38

I must go to that meeting no matter what.

23:40

And I'm proud of my home group, USR,

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Unity Service and Recovery.

23:45

We are very involved with service.

23:48

You know, we have a commitment every Saturday,

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every other Saturday, answering phones at central office.

23:53

We have other commitments with other groups

23:57

and I'm excited for what our group has to do this year.

24:00

You know, I've been asked to become the retreat coordinator,

24:04

so I'm coordinating our retreat, you know.

24:06

And I'm excited because I love doing this kind of stuff,

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you know, 'cause I wanna see Alcoholics Anonymous continue

24:13

'cause I don't know who's coming through the door next.

24:16

It could be one of my relatives,

24:17

could be one of my sons or grandsons, you know.

24:21

And so I wanna make sure this fellowship continues

24:24

and that's why I do the things that I do.

24:28

I had a great day today.

24:30

I got up and my grandson started.

24:32

Today was the first day of opening day of baseball,

24:34

little league, and I got to see him get a couple of hits

24:37

off the machine, you know, and that was so exciting,

24:39

you know, and to watch him and watch my son

24:43

and him become a dad, you know, because without,

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you know, you guys taught me how to be a father.

24:48

You guys taught me how to be a coach

24:49

and how to be a, you know, a man and how to be a father,

24:54

you know, and how to be a father, you know.

24:55

And so I don't talk about my son a lot enough,

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you know, because you guys helped grow him up

25:03

and he grew up to do great things on his own,

25:07

not on his own, but of course, with the love and support

25:09

of, you know, us and what you guys taught me here.

25:12

He went to the best university on the West Coast,

25:17

Berkeley, and for undergrad.

25:20

Don't hate, don't hate, don't hate.

25:22

I know you got a bunch of USCs here, don't hate.

25:25

Oh, UCLA, whatever, baby bears, whatever.

25:28

But he went on to Temple University and got his law degree

25:38

and came back to California and passed the bar

25:41

and he's a lawyer now, you know, and amazing, amazing.

25:45

You know, one more drink, one more sniff, one more puff.

25:47

You know, I would have missed it all.

25:48

I would have missed it all.

25:50

But, you know, it's meetings like this, it's the fellowship,

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you know, it's hanging around with, you know, sober people

25:56

and hanging around with people that are doing the do.

25:58

People like Juan and Lacey, you know,

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getting involved with H&I.

26:02

I did biking for books, biking for books.

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That's it, I did it, I did it, you know?

26:09

And it's great because, you know, they say 80 to 90%

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of the people that get involved with H&I stick around.

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So if you're not an H&I yet,

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I suggest you get into it, you know?

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Because the people there are doing this deal, you know?

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So if you're new here tonight, get a big book,

26:26

get a sponsor, get a friend,

26:27

get a home group right here, stay right here.

26:29

Or you can come to USR on Thursday nights, men's tag.

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But more importantly, you know, no matter what,

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don't leave before the miracle happens.

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God bless you and keep you on, keep coming back.