Brett's Journey: From Farm Utopia to Alcoholic Recovery
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Brett's Journey: From Farm Utopia to Alcoholic Recovery

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Brett shares his childhood on a seemingly perfect farm, the collapse of his family, and the painful loss of his grandfather and brother to alcoholism. He recounts his first drink at a high‑school party, the rapid spiral into addiction, and how discovering the AA program guided him toward lasting recovery.

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- Thank you, my name's Brett, I am an alcoholic

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for Vince, to my innermost self.

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That's the case, hello alcoholics at home.

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Thanks Scott for asking me to come

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and share my story tonight.

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And thanks to Paul M for recommending me

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as he calls my hair tonight.

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I'll see him, I see him.

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Brett, an alcoholic, a viewer of my story,

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you know, in the stories that have headlines, right?

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And in the big book, mine would probably be one of us,

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you know, and I didn't think I was, you know,

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the last thing I wanted to be was one of them.

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If you grew up around them, you know what I'm talking about.

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And I ended up one of us and it's the best thing

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that happened to me, that's the way it's happened for me.

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I share, my sprainy date is January 11th, 2001.

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I've been sharing for years,

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I grew up in an alcoholic family.

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I grew up in an alcoholic family.

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You know, as years go on, you know,

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there's honesty and there's rigorous honesty

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and all of a sudden you start to realize

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the lesson all together is true, Brett.

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You know, you had zero to 10, where no,

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there wasn't, the parents, the grandfather was drinking,

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but we didn't live with him,

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so it didn't really affect us to the same point.

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Family didn't really break out with the disease

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until it was like 10.

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Zero to 10, I kind of lived in a utopia.

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Lived on a farm, everything was fantastic.

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Dad went together, you know, everything was going great.

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You know, through their own circumstances,

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things got tense there.

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My mom and dad split when I was 10

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and then that's when things started to go,

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started to go haywire.

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So my grandfather moved in with us at one point.

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He lived with us for five years.

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My grandfather, my mom, my dad, my older brother,

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my grandfather, I can say with some certainty,

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my grandfather died of this disease.

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He was six foot four and fell when he was drunk,

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hit his head on the toilet, in the bathtub,

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that's how he went.

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My older brother died of this thing

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just a little over two years ago

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in Suzanne's industry, like three days ago.

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He died of this thing alone in a trailer

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in a five foot circle with nothing refuse around it.

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That's how he died.

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And that's what happens to us.

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I got to, I grew up, you know, 10 to 18 I was there

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when it happened.

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And I, the reason I think that's important to share now,

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and I, you know, is because the fact that I was,

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that I was in quote unquote normal environment,

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it seemed like until that time it became,

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it was so apparent to me when the chaos came.

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I didn't know what was going on.

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So at the, at the age of 10, there was a,

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there was an event going on.

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We had, ourselves had become a bit of a flop house.

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We had people, you know, staying there drunk,

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wake up, stepping over bodies,

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drunk bodies in the floor in the morning as a kid.

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And, you know, I'm wondering what the heck was going on.

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My mom was getting something ready for a,

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we're getting a car ready for demolition.

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Cause that's how you get cars ready for demolition.

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And, and she ran over somebody's toolbox.

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And, and I, I could see it was because of the ankle,

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but this was happening.

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And I took her beer and I threw it away

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and she came looking for it.

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And she was like, where's my beer?

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And my little brother ran at me and I was like,

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right through it, please.

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And she came up with a 12 pound, a 12 pound screw ribbon.

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She says, you want to throw this one away too?

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I'll just go get another.

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And I could see right then and there that,

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oh, who's running this show?

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I made a decision at that point.

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I wasn't going to be like them.

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That's where the whole of them thing started.

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I was not going to be like what they, like they were.

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So I applied myself and I became my, as I said,

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I'm, I'm a number one man.

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My birthday, January 11th, 2001.

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And Bill W. talks about being a number one.

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Being a number one man.

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That's what became important to me.

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I had to, because I wasn't going to be like,

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what they were going to be.

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I made a pact with my brother, we won't be like them.

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You know, I sat him down.

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We're not going to be like them.

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So I applied myself and became all these things

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throughout school.

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I switched my grades for becoming popular,

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student council stuff, captain football team, whatever it is.

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It doesn't matter in hindsight.

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It doesn't really matter.

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These are things just to make me be okay with me

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because I wasn't, I wasn't really okay with circumstances.

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And ultimately I wasn't, I needed to find a way out of it.

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Well, so after seven years, I swapped with that pact.

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I made one with my brother in tech,

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but then went to high school.

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There was a party and the,

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they were going to be older, older girls there.

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And there was drinking, there was beer.

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And I was offered a beer and I wanted to fit in.

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And so your pressure did me in for strength.

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And then, you know, they say that we all cause strength,

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essentially because we like the effect produced by uncle.

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And I can tell you that it's absolutely the case with me.

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The moment I had that first beer, something happened.

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It was, it was fun.

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I was, I was better, I was smarter.

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I was better looking, I was funnier.

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To me, everything exactly how I wanted to feel.

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And I thought to myself, what did they mess this up?

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Well, I just felt like they were, they were weak.

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They were weak willed people and I'll do it

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and I'll just manage it, right?

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And so from that first drink,

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I was trying to manage my drinking from the first drink.

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I got, I got drunk and I had a great time,

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a lot of great time all throughout.

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But you know, my story, like many other alcoholic stories,

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I didn't really hear this until I came into the rooms.

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I didn't know there was a progressive nature to this thing.

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I thought you were a drunk, you're just a drunk.

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I didn't know that it got worse.

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I didn't know that this malady,

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when the more alcohol you put in,

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the worse the malady becomes.

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Not only for the body, but for the mind.

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Both of these things get sicker and sicker

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the more we practice this thing.

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I wasn't aware of that.

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So, you know, I don't think my drunk-a-log in and of itself,

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you know, I don't, I don't spend a lot of time.

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I drank from 17 till I was 36.

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I got in these rooms at 36.

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I don't think it's that much different than any other.

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It's just sort of a garden variety.

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I don't think there's anything particularly special about it.

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I can tell you it's absolutely progressive though.

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It got worse, what was sort of that weakness.

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But I really, you know, it wasn't till I got here

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and they said, you know, it talks on the big book about,

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you know, try to just drink any one, drink any one,

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who would do such a thing?

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I never drink one.

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Why don't you start drinking one, go on somewhere.

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I'm just going to stop with one.

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So it had never occurred to me to drink just one.

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Every time I drank, you know,

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I was trying to go for the maximum feeling,

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the maximum high, the maximum good time I could have.

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And yet I had all that knowledge

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of how all those people behaved when they got drunk.

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So I'm trying to manage it at the same time.

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Like I had all my little rules, like, okay, if you start,

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like I, how many times I sat around

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while alcoholics repeated themselves

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over and over and over again,

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or stories about them blacking out.

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Like, well, I ain't going to black out.

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I said, if I start losing consciousness, that's it.

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I'm going to go lay down.

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I'm going to go to bed.

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That way I had an illusion of control somehow,

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but I still right up until,

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I just keep drinking all the way up until that moment

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and then find some place to go basically pass out.

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But it did, it did get more progressive for me.

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You know, weekends, you know,

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a night on the weekend became,

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nights on the weekend became three days or whatever.

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I really didn't want, I knew what it meant if you drank.

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I knew what it meant if you drank in the morning.

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I knew what it meant if you got a DUI.

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I was, you know, I saw them,

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I saw what happened to my family when these things,

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I knew what those things meant.

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And so I didn't, you know, I didn't want to do that.

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I didn't want to do that.

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I knew what it meant if you drank on the job,

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but it kept going and I kept trying to find different ways.

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So what I'll skip over now is, I mean, some of the things,

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some of the crazy things that happened just to qualify,

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being in New York, falling asleep,

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passing out on the subway, waking up.

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If you pass out on the subway,

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they wake you up at the end of the line,

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either Bronx or Poni Island.

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And that would happen to me frequently.

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I'd be, oh, it's time to fall.

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I missed my stop again and then ride all the other way.

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You know, I guess it gets pretty, pretty long.

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Those types of things, ticking holes in the walls,

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breaking furniture with my bare feet.

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You know, this kind of behavior is not a normal, healthy,

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calm, serene mind.

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It's not coming from that kind of place.

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When I was, the last couple of years, you know,

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I was hiding, I had this thing where I would hide the booze.

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I had, you remember the recycling things were yellow.

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They didn't have the big blue ones.

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I would, I would hide my bottles under the,

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yet the pile kept growing, you know?

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So like, I didn't think my wife was going to find out.

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The pile kept growing, but the last bottles I drank,

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I always put down at the bottom, you know,

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like I thought she wasn't going to be able to,

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to figure that one out then.

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You know, I started to, you know, mix, mix different drinks.

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I was primarily a beer drinker,

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just because I felt like I could manage my,

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I could manage it, my, where I wanted to be a little bit

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more. I could tell you at the end,

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I was unbelievably bitter at the world and its people.

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I couldn't believe how I thought this world had,

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was doing me wrong, victim mentality.

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My way of doing it was, was to lash out, you know,

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and the worst feeling, you know,

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that I had a bit of a black hole and I just kept going,

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particularly as long as I was getting bigger and bigger

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and bigger, no matter what I threw in that room.

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I had been taken more, tried to fill the white hole.

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And why were people so stupid?

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You know, why wouldn't they do it the right way?

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You know, I just really felt like everything would be better

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if, if that were the case.

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And my career wasn't going the way that I wanted.

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My career was number one in my life.

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My priorities were my career, my family, basically, yeah.

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But when I talk about,

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even now I talk about my priorities being my career.

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When I say my career, what I really mean was me.

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It was, my priority was me because my career,

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if I had gotten it the way I wanted,

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everybody would have recognized how great I really was.

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If I had gotten my career the way I wanted.

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My career was utterly about, wasn't about anyone.

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I didn't, it took a lot of time

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in this program to come to that.

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I thought I was, I thought once I got there,

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I will become the benevolent being I'm supposed to be,

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but it was never true.

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'Cause I acted like a jerk all the way along,

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justifying that that was all justifiable

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to get to this place where everything's going to be great

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when I get there.

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You know, what a great thing that this program teaches us

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to be here, to be right here, to be in today,

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to live this moment as full as we possibly could.

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I didn't know that that was, that you could be here.

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So I'm, I'm at a function that the day of my bottom,

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I would say, you know, I don't,

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I don't know that it matters, a high bottom, a low bottom.

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I think when the pain's enough,

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the pain's enough when you're done, you're done.

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If you had enough pain, you're ready to give up your life.

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Your life, everything attached to the name Brent

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can be done with.

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I got to find a new one, I got to find a better one.

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I got to find a different way of doing it

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because my way didn't, so, but I was still trying.

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And that last day we had,

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my wife and I had gone to see what we could afford

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in terms of a house, two things.

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And I was, I was in this film that was premiering

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and I was pretty sure that it was going to really

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do something for my career.

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Well, first off, the thing about the house,

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what we could afford was a shack, a 700 square foot shack

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at the best, not what I expected.

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And that night was predominantly,

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my contribution to that project

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was predominantly cut out of it.

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And so, you know, down in line in martinis,

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and I don't know how to drink martinis,

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but I'll drink martinis, double apple martinis.

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And I remember that I was with it,

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I was sitting with him, better with the director too,

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and I'm sitting with him afterwards.

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And I remember leaving that bar and he asked me,

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I was like, are you okay to drive home from here?

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You know, and I sit in the car and I pass out the car.

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Somebody knocks on the window.

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Hey man, can you give us a ride?

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I give you a ride.

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And I get on, I get on Highland and I black out.

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I don't, I'm going up, I'm going up Highland

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and I black out and I come to on the 101

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and the lights are flashing behind, right?

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And I go over, I pull over onto Barham.

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So great to still see these places now

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and remember what it was like, only the gratitude,

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what I, you know, but I go and I pull over on Barham

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and he comes up, the cop comes up and rolled down the window

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and he said, he leaned in, first thing he said,

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have you been drinking?

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And to me, what I heard knew, in that moment I knew,

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I had a moment of clarity, basically my drunkest moment,

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I had a moment of clarity and the tears are pouring from me.

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The relief had been running, it became my mystery

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and what a great thing that's turned into me.

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What a blessing that has turned out to be,

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can be defeated, something, you know, you know those,

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there's a t-shirt where like a stork is swallowing a frog

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and the frog is choking the stork on the way down,

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says, never again, that's the way I was.

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But what a powerful thing that we learned

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in this first step to surrender.

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Stop clinging on to the old notions and the old ideas

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and the self will and finally gain access to a power

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other than our power, a power that can help us

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quit drinking again and do something different.

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So, I'm brought down to Hill Street and I'm sitting on,

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you know, they move you, I'm laying on the floor,

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I'm in a black turtleneck and I'm down, down on Hill Street

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with really nice shoes and I'm like, oh wow,

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I really think I'm something, don't I?

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And, you know, I was thought I was looking,

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and I'm, you know, they move you from place to place,

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so you don't get too comfortable.

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And I'm at one point on like, I'm so, so out of,

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but they put me on a bottom bunk and I'm looking

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at the top bunk and I see a cockroach there

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and I'm like, we're the same, we're the same.

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And my wife, who was nine months pregnant,

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was due in one week with our second child,

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comes down in our little Mazda 323 to Hill Street

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and picks me up and I make that long walk and she's there

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and I'm the painter and she's got,

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she's got a note written to me on yellow note paper,

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that's my note paper, this is my paper, yellow paper,

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this special paper for writing on, this is what I write on,

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my paper, she's taking my paper to get my attention

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and write on that yellow paper,

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a dear breath letter, basically.

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And I'm like, wow, why didn't you say,

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you know, she said, this has been going on,

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she's been seeing this, she's seeing this,

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but this has been watched, why didn't you say something?

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Why didn't you say something?

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What could she say?

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I mean, I come to find out a couple of days later,

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I think we're about a week into it and she said, you know,

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this past week is the most approachable

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you've been in months.

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I had become unapproachable,

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but I wasn't what I was aiming for in this life,

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become an unapproachable being.

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I was hoping to do something decent,

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but I thought it was, you know, based on personality.

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And we learned personality's no good here.

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We have to learn not live by principles.

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And so God worked it out that our neighbor,

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when we moved here in 1997,

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our neighbor had 17 years since the bride, I knew that,

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what a great guy, man, that guy's an awesome guy,

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17 years sober, good for you, man, wow.

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And I have talks and I'm like, I couldn't understand,

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why is he so nice, why does he know so much?

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And he talked me through all my problems all the time,

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you know, and it worked out.

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We were friends with them, he and his wife,

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and God had worked it out that they were showing up

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the next day after I got my DUI to come have dinner.

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I'm saying, I gotta tell John, I tell John what happened.

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So he comes over and I tell him what happened.

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And he just sat and he just listened to the whole thing.

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And at the end, he stood up and he put his hand

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on my shoulder and he said,

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"You don't have to go through this alone."

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And that was true.

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And I was alone, I was utterly,

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that's the world I had created for myself.

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One that was alone.

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So he said, "You know, we got a meeting on Tuesday night

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"and I've got a big book in the car.

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"If you want to read, you know,

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"read the first 164 pages, see what you, you know,

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"see what you'd relate to.

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"And I'll come and I'll pick you up on,

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"I'll come pick you up, take you to the meeting on Tuesday."

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Okay, now I had, part of my story when I was in New York,

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I had gone, I had become part of a fundamentalist church

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for three months.

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It was one of my attempts to find myself.

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I had, I had quit other things.

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I hadn't, somehow I had quit Coke on my own.

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So I thought I had power, you know, if you can do that,

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alcohol can't get me, I quit Coke, you know.

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But I was empty at that point.

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It was already that sort of, so those symptoms of emptiness.

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And I became part of this fundamentalist thing,

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which I then left because I couldn't, the hoop was very,

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very, very, very small to get to God.

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And I just didn't, I couldn't do it.

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I couldn't consistently do it.

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I did it, I got there, but I couldn't keep doing it.

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It felt, to me, I just felt like God didn't make

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those harder terms is what we come to learn here.

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Didn't make those harder terms.

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So I ran, I ran away, I ran away from that.

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So when I got here and I'm like, right away I see steps

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and I'm thinking about, oh no, more doctrine.

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I follow this doctrine again, oh, what do I have to do?

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So I had, and having grown up in an alcohol family,

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many of them went to a, I had a lot of prejudice,

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a lot of prejudice against the program.

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Preconceived ideas, old ideas, prejudice, yeah,

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that's what prejudice is, it's nothing but old ideas,

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like Joe and Charlie say, right?

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It's nothing but old, we got old ideas.

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We have to be willing to sort of let go of those old ideas

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in favor of operating on new ideas.

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And we've got fellows around you, we've got the big book

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and we've got living examples of people who show us

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how to do those things.

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So I got to that first meeting and I, and before,

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I remember he shut off the car where he had a Vanagon,

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a Volkswagen Vanagon, and he said, okay,

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you're not gonna relate to everything you're hearing,

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but just listen for the similarities.

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And I did, and I felt at home.

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Now, in the little bit of time that when I said,

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I said, are you an alcoholic?

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Remember, they pulled me over and said, are you alcoholic?

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I had already started to take a little bit

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of self-will back, figuring out, well,

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maybe if they just, you know,

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maybe if they just give me the right information,

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I'll be able to figure this thing out.

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I'll be able to, I'll be able to do it on my own thing.

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Don't give me just a little information,

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but I probably don't need everything

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you guys are talking about.

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So I didn't, I had a hard time, I didn't even,

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I didn't even identify as an alcoholic

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in my first nine meetings.

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After that, then I did, and what a relief that was

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to say the words out loud, I'm an alcoholic.

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And I say it now, not all the time,

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but I say it frequently that I am convinced.

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I have admitted to my innermost self.

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I am convinced, and it's taken some real time

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to come to my innermost self, but that's what I am.

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That's what I'm gonna be dealing with every day.

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No matter, my life is still unmet.

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I'm 21 years sober.

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My life is still unmanaged by me.

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Sober, not while drunk, while sober.

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I need the help of some spiritual principles,

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of some fellows who are, and the fellowship,

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people who are doing the same thing, you know,

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who have tried these things, what they're,

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the problems that they're facing in their lives,

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they've gone through what I'm going through now,

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and have come out the other side,

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have walked through it somehow.

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With some degree of peace of mind,

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or at least not making things worse,

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they've done that successfully.

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I need those examples.

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So I listened, I identified, and I did feel at home,

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and I came back, and I can say that, you know,

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I got a sponsor, I sponsor people,

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I've sponsored a number of guys over the years,

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still sponsoring guys, at this experience.

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And I've seen it in others, that something happens

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every time somebody actually takes the steps.

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There is a transformation that takes place.

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Something happens faster than something happens slower.

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But it's amazing to watch, like, somebody who you're around,

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you get to be a part of their circle,

19:47

and you see them going through,

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and growing through this program.

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And all of a sudden they take it this step,

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and all of a sudden something changes.

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Well, took a misstep, you know,

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you get to actually see these things change the person

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as they go through it, you know.

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What else can I say?

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So that's what it was like,

20:02

and self-centered, and self-seeking to film,

20:05

developing that constant thought of others.

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I mean, how does the conveyor belt change?

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And when I was on the tape, I was always on the tape.

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How does it go like this?

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How do you get it to do it like this?

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Well, unfortunately, we got people who tell us,

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you know, it's action, action is a thing.

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We get into action.

20:18

We help each other by saying we make suggestions.

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No, this worked for me.

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We only suggest things that work for us,

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that have worked for others.

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And then we put them in a play and we see,

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put it to the test.

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It doesn't have to be figured out.

20:30

We don't have to think this thing through.

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It's just a matter of doing it.

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And then that changes.

20:34

It changes the thinking and it changes the whole outside.

20:38

The outside circumstances change.

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You know, what I can tell you from my experience is,

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you know, one of the greatest gifts of this deal

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is the change.

20:48

I told you about how bitter I was.

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I couldn't find anything.

20:51

You know, I come in here and you guys say,

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I'm a great, say I'm a grateful recovering alcoholic.

20:55

Wow, what?

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That has gotta be the dumbest thing anybody could say.

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You're grateful that you're here.

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You're doing all that stuff.

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And then, you know, over time you come to learn,

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wow, well, gratitude is not just an emotion.

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It's also a tool.

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Something that we put into practice,

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that something happens, that gratitude and self-pity

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can exist in the person at the same time.

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This is what I was told.

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So if I'm in self-pity and I'm having a bad day,

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the thing is, pull out the gratitude list.

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Get the gratitude list, go through that gratitude list.

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By the time you get to five on your list,

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or maybe you need more, maybe 10,

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suddenly your eyes begin to see things to be grateful for.

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A lot of times, one thing I'll do, thank you,

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one of the things what I'll do is I'll just go,

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I just have to start saying,

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if I'm disturbed and I get disturbed,

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I still get disturbed.

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21 years is right, I get disturbed, I get disturbed,

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certainly weekly, sometimes daily, today,

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this day, this day, this day,

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this is a part of life on life's terms.

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These disturbances are also,

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according to the spiritual axiom,

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these are the opportunities for my growth

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because it's more of me that's in the way.

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This is why I'm disturbed.

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I'm not here, guess what?

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There's no disturbance.

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I'm the one, I'm playing a part in this disturbance.

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So when these things come up,

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that's the opportunity for me to look at them

22:14

and then talk to other people

22:16

and see what I can do to change those things.

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So what I was gonna say is all that bitterness,

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somehow through the practice of these,

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through taking the 12 steps, through working with others

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and doing what you guys have suggested,

22:29

suddenly now my level of appreciation for the world

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is completely different.

22:33

And when I have those moments where I'm in self-pity

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or I'm angry or whatever,

22:38

I can start just saying, thank you, thank you,

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thank you, thank you, thank you.

22:40

Something happens.

22:41

Sometimes I have to say it several times.

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I'll say it over again.

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And pretty soon also my eye will catch something

22:46

that there is to be thankful for

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and I'll start to change my mind.

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So my level of appreciation for this world,

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it's no longer an either world as the world is.

22:54

I'm not seeing the world through rose-colored glasses,

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but I can see that along with the negative,

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along with all this bad stuff,

23:02

there's a lot of great stuff to be appreciated

23:05

and to be thankful for.

23:06

And this is the whole play of this life.

23:09

These things that to not let,

23:11

to not get too high and not to get too low,

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but to just that no matter what we're facing,

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that we can face these things

23:17

and go through these things.

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The most difficult things with some degree of peace of mind

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that's available to us through the help of each other.

23:26

So with my remaining minute,

23:28

again, I guess I'll just say that,

23:30

I'll reiterate what I said.

23:31

It was the last place I wanted to be

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and I thought it was the worst bet.

23:37

I can tell you right now.

23:39

So my priorities changed.

23:40

Also, let me just go back to that.

23:42

My priorities changed.

23:43

My priority now is,

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I was told here, get the program and God

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or God and the program, one or two.

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It doesn't matter which one, which way it goes.

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Just do it one way or another.

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So for me, it's God, AA, then my family, then my career.

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So my career went from number one to number four,

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got a better deal at number four than it did at number one.

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My family went from number two to number three,

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still getting a better deal at number three

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than they were at number two.

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That's just the way it is for me

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because I made, I got my priorities straight.

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I'm here to try to help to grow in effectiveness,

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try to help another alcoholic who suffers,

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fellow alcoholic who suffers,

24:18

to afford them the freedom that's been given to me,

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to other people who've gone before.

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And it ends up being, when you go through it,

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when you do go through it, if you've had,

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if you do it, maybe you already have this experience.

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How awesome, how awesome a thing.

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It becomes a natural thing that when you become free,

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it's a natural progression that you begin

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to help others become free as well.

24:35

We owe, we owe, to give what we can.

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Not anyone's gonna help.

24:38

Some of us have to die in order for some of us to stay

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and it is sad, but that's the nature

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of the thing we're up against.

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And we love them anyway.

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(indistinct)

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- I'll text you and just let you know that it's my name.

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- Yes, perfect.

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- Let me think about-

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- No worries.