Ernest's Journey: From Early Blackouts to 29 Years Sober
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Ernest's Journey: From Early Blackouts to 29 Years Sober

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Ernest shares his life story, from a childhood marked by early blackouts and a family military background to a career steeped in white‑collar crime, all while battling a deep‑seated love for alcohol. He reflects on his 29‑year sobriety milestone, the role of AA meetings, and the ongoing challenge of staying present amid daily distractions.

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Thank you. I'm just going to stand up long enough so that so that I can welcome everyone

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who raised their hands as either a newcomer or retread. Because we're all in this room

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because we have a disease. It's called alcoholism. I wanted to especially thank you for coming

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tonight. And by the way, thank you, Karen, for inviting me and asking suggesting that

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I suit up. When Karen told me that it was suggested that I wear a tie and a coat, I

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said, Oh, my goodness, there must be 500 people at this meeting. I can't remember whether

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I wore this suit to a wedding or a funeral. But for alcoholic, can you hear me okay back

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in the back means that I have a disease of the mind, the body and the spirit. And I think

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alcoholism is the only disease when that when you have it, people yell at you. For one reason

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or another, I'm going back as far as I can remember, I when I was a kid growing up, I

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had three sisters younger and I tell them today I said, you know, I'm an only child

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except for my three, three sisters, which was kind of a clue of what was later to be

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described as self centeredness. But as a kid, I knew I felt different than the other kids

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in school. And as I grew up, and the reason that I felt different was because I was different.

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I didn't think like the other kids. And I no matter how many people were in a room always

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felt alone or always felt self conscious. And I knew that I didn't amount to much but

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I was all that I could think about. It was all about me. Um, I had my my first blackout

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when I was about 12 years old. And my father was military. And I wanted to circle back

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just for a second. My father was military and we were living in Germany. And in Germany,

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if you can reach the bar, they'll pour you a drink. So I was out on the town with some

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other kids. And all I remember is that I would they had dragged me home in the snow by my

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heels. And I had the next morning I got up and of course, I had vomited all over myself.

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And and my mother thought it would be a good idea if I were to go and have a nice long

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chat with a with the priest and tell him just what I had been up to time. I was a good student,

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good student, who was a good, good kid, you know, generally never got in trouble. I was

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a people pleaser teacher's pet. So I learned how to manipulate people early on. And what

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was I gonna say? Oh, but Oh, I know what I was gonna say. By the way, I love alcohol.

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I love to drink. I loved it when I was drinking. And I've never lost my my affection. And the

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reason for that is from the very first time that I remember drinking alcohol did something

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to me. It took me there, you know, I mentioned that I felt different because I was different.

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When I drank, I went there. And I like being there. And so even though I was a good student,

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I would drink all through high school on the weekends with my friends. And you know, I

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went to college and went to all the parties, but I wouldn't drink when it was time to study.

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And eventually, I got out of school and I was recruited by a big company. And in those

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that time, you were expected to have martini lunches with your clients. And I love that.

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I did early on, I did a lot of bar drinking and and I love to drink in the bars because

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you know, they were nice and dark and there was music and hors d'oeuvres. And after a

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few drinks, I always I always felt like I was the genius sitting between the two assholes,

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you know, and, and alcohol did that for me. And I loved it so much that I was paying attention

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to my drinking. And all of the events that I made sure that I attended where there was

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alcohol and I didn't want to go anywhere or do anything that didn't involve alcohol. And

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that included being married to one woman, being a parent and, and being honest, because

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in my work, I managed to lie, cheat and steal, you know, and it was white collar crime. And

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it's a miracle that I'm wearing this suit tonight is not an orange suit, you know, I

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will tell you that. My sobriety date is December 28 1993. So I celebrated 29 years on the last

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time and you know, you know what my sponsor says earned that's a good start. So you know,

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I'm just getting started. They made notes because I thought I was going to be speaking

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in front of you know, Hollywood, Hollywood Bowl. I wanted to say, especially to if you're

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here at a meeting for the first time or 30 days, I've been to a lot of meetings over

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those 29 years and I've never heard not once in a meeting. I've never heard anybody say

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that the more they drank, the better their life. You know, I've always heard that the

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more they drank, they spiral down until they hit that horrible nightmare rock bottom place

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for you come face to face with inexplicable demoralization. And I went from drinking in

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bars to sitting in my psychiatrist's office being analyzed as suicide. Ernest Cartwright

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is a 38 year old male with suicidal ideation, you know, and I've got that report real handy

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where I cannot work. I can refer live I have to as I was driving over here, how fortunate

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I felt that I was coming to an AA meeting, you know, we're here because we're not all

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there. We're here because we're not only and I was coming to an AA meeting and when we're

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not in these meetings, we're outside and we're constantly being bombarded with information,

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news, traffic, culture, bad news, worse news. I need another password. No. Yes, this is

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Ernest Cartwright. I'd like to lower my cable bill. Okay. Do you have your your password?

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No, no, I forgot it. Well, I said, Can't you just tell me how I can lower my cable? How

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do we know it's you? Well, who else would be calling you to lower my bill? Three other

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people are trying to steal my identity and they want to lower my bill. Let them that's

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not the world that we live. So as I shared with Karen on the way over here, we're so

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fortunate to have this program to help us keep focused. You know, our main job is to

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say so our main job is to work the steps, read the book, follow the program and not

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drink. And if we do those things, no matter what's happening around us, we're going to

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be okay, we're going to be okay. So we have a tremendous advantage to all of the normies

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out there who they have to decide right or left conservative or liberal, yes or no, black

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or white, you know, they've lost their minds. But here, we're safe on a Saturday night.

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So we don't just come to meetings to stop. That's what I was gonna say. We come to meetings

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for the drinking and we stay for the thinking. But it's even better than that, because we're

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coming into a new meeting, we're coming into a new life. That's what that's the gift, the

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miracle of AA that if you come into these meetings, and you keep your ears open in your

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mouth shut for at least the first 90 days, in my case, five years before I had anything

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to say, oh, then you've got a shot, you know, you've got a shot to to be the best person

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that you can be whoever you are. And today, you know, I'm not this is not what I planned

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to be when I was in school. And I newlywed, you know, I didn't see my future as being

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sitting here in a room with a bunch of drunks. So I didn't plan this. And there are other

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things that I could be but and this is the message. Thank God I and we're not what we

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used to be violent. Wow, absolutely. I think I can do it. So mention that already. Ah,

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here's a good one. And by the way, the reason I make notes is because anything that I have

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up here is bullshit. You know, where's the book, if I could hold up a big book right

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now would say this is the truth. And I'm saying this to all the newcomers, especially because

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your best thinking got you here, you know, your best ideas, oh, you know, I'll drive

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that Ford Pinto off that cliff. That's a good idea. So, and what makes my my program especially

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rewarding is that I live by these little things, you know, as we go through the day, we pause

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when agitated or doubtful, and ask for the right thought or action. I do that at least

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100 times a day, I have to tell you at least 100 times a day, because I'm always doubtful

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and agitated. And I need the guidance that this pro I need this program for living and

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I need to see that map. You know, I'm one of those guys that I can easily fall off and

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get into my own head and run. So one of the things that I love is to wisdom and goodness,

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and I'm sorry about me yelling, but I want to make sure that you guys hear this back

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there wisdom and goodness, we make only promises, it is pain that we obey. So the reason that

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the newcomers and the reason I came in here, it wasn't because I was on a winning streak,

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you know, I was a loser, my ass was falling off, I was suicidal. And I realized that I

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just couldn't stop drinking. I had no power over alcohol that it completely controlled

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me. But in these rooms, when you come into a meeting, this is where we learn this is

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where we get the power to stop drinking. This is where we get that we find the power to

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stay sober one day at a time for 26 years for 29 years. So we're we're living proof

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that this program works. And there's probably somebody out here that can raise their hands

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and my sponsors as well, you know, 50 years, but 29 is a good start, then that day will

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come that you'll be able to look in the mirror and say, today, I like what I see. I'm comfortable

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in my own skin, you know, not everything is right. relationships are still difficult.

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I'm having a hard time at work, my finances are out of control. My body's falling apart,

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I'm okay, I accept that. I'm grateful that I've lived this long. I'm grateful to know

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that I have a connection with a higher power. And that's what makes it work from one day

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to the next. And our program in the 11th step. So I've through prayer and meditation, to

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maintain our conscious contact with God, as we understood, train only for knowledge of

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his will for us and the power to carry that out. So the program is simple, but we are

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insane people, we're nuts, and we'll always be nuts. But as long as we work the program

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and keep our mouth shut, no one will know outside these rooms that we're crazy. You

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know, in here, we can say, Yeah, I'm an alcoholic. I'm crazy. But nobody out there wants to hear

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it. You know, they don't need it. We can. Karen said, Ernest, I want you to wear a tie.

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And I said, Okay, she says, because we want the newcomers to see what the program can

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do. But I'm here to tell you that I don't come to this meeting or any meetings to look

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good. I come to feel good. That's why we come. I think you mentioned the the ABCs, right?

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That's Jojo. Was that Jojo? Okay. So to the newcomers, the program is as simple as ABC.

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A, we knew that we were alcoholic, and probably no human power on earth could relieve our

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alcoholism and God would if we let ABC so if you need to have it sharing my experience

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strength and hope. So getting back to my psychiatrist office. I went from drinking in bars to going

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back home. You know, I remember my last night, my parents who are I'm an orphan right now.

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I was in the restaurant business in Santa Barbara and, and my partner called and by

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the way, I was I was stealing from my my own register, of course. And my partner said,

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you better come and get earnest because I had been lying in the shower for two days.

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And so my dear mother and father came up and they loaded me into the back of the car and

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in Santa Barbara, and as we grew up, we were driving out of town. I said, Please stop.

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I've got to buy a six pack. And so I drank the six pack on the way home, you know, in

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the backseat, what a loser. And I went into my into my parents, and I had run out of the

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insurance, there was no more coverage, no more hospital stays no more. I was here at

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Burbank at least half a dozen times in and out over the years, you know, and every time

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I come back Oh, and I my dear mother dried me out with with soup, but I would keep a

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bottle of whiskey underneath the bed, because I just couldn't sleep at night. I, you know,

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I wanted to get even with everybody. And I was so full of anger and fear that that was

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as bad as it got, you know, keeping that bottle of whiskey under my bed and sucking on it

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so that I could pass out again. And I remember that a handful of years earlier, I had gotten

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a DUI, and the judge had sent me to the Windsor Club in Glendale. And so finally, after my

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parents weren't weren't home. And so I just I knew that I was gonna die the way I felt

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the point that I had reached this, I was insane. I was insane. And I dropped on my knees, and

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I asked God for help. And when my parents came home, I asked my dad if he would drive

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me to the Windsor Club. And I walked into the club. And Bob Elias was still my sponsor

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was sitting behind the desk. And I said, Is this is this where the meeting is? And he

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said, Yeah. And I said, How long is it gonna last? He said the rest of your life. And for

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the first year, really, I kept my mouth shut, because my sponsors suggested that I do so

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I was really a bad case. And somehow, you know, during this time, I even managed to

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move to New York City and stay sober in New York City, because in New York City, and this

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is the only f bomb I promise I'll drop tonight. But you know, their recovery program is get

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the fuck up where you're gonna die. That's it. That's how they sponsor you. So, and page

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86 on awakening, let us think about the 24 hours ahead. So if you if you want to stay

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sober, if you want the program to work, then as I said, you read the big book, you work

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the steps, you get a sponsor, and some point three things will happen to you the first

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three steps, you'll admit that you're powerless over alcohol, you'll come to believe that

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a power greater than yourself can restore your sanity, sanity, and you'll turn your

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life and your will in your life over to the care of God. And with regard to to the God

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of question, my sponsor said, there's only two things you need to know about God. There's

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one and you're not it. You're not God. So you don't share enough. I don't work with

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others and especially with newcomers. I don't give myself to the program enough. And that's

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my loss. You know, I'm working on I'm working on. So if anybody needs a sponsor, talk to

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me after my family tree as well. You know, my ethnicity is is Mexican. And we did all

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the week DNA hasn't been gleaned out yet. But we're trying a person very close to me,

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you know, my daughter, who I think I'm saving that seat for, but she doesn't want to hear

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anything I have to say, of course. And what this program has has taught me that is one

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of the things I really treasure is spirituality. What does that mean? Well, for me, spirituality

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means that I've learned how to keep my mouth shut restraint of pen, the less I have to

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explain, apologize, or be that we need to make an amends. And my my daughter's mom passed

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away a handful of years ago. And so I said, you should move in with me, you should move

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in with me. And she finally did. And the reason that she didn't want to move in with me is

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because she thought that she was going to have to give up her drinking. So. So I moved

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into the in laws, the mother in law house in the back of our house, and she has the

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run of the whole watch. She and her cats, and her friends that do like to party and

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they party heavy and they drink heavily and and when she gets into her cups, you know,

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that old alcoholism comes out. But you know, I've got this this shield that I just I it's

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impenetrable impenetrable because I don't let that I can see it. And and I'm not trying

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to 12 step her but in the handful of years that she has lived, we've lived under the

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same roof, I can see that her behavior is calming down and her rage anger and yesterday

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when yesterday, one of her friends was visiting her who was not an alcohol, but nevertheless,

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one of her friends. And she, she she knew that I was going to come here and speak. So

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my daughter was in earshot and I told her what I was going to share what it was like

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what happened and what it's like today. And my daughter teared up most of the time, you

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know, most of the time, reasonably happy, you know, God grant me the serenity to accept

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things that cannot change and the courage to change the things I can wisdom to know

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the difference in the degree the next pair, it is and to be reasonably happy. So I'm not

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happy all the time, but most of the time, and that's such a joy to to know that your

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anger meter doesn't spike or anything, you know, so and as we all know, you know, once

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we step out these doors, we're surrounded by assholes everywhere. But I don't rage out

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on the freeway, you know, I've been flipped off, I guess I'm starting to drive a little

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more carefully. And that's a gift, you know, that's a gift. I'm able to be there getting

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back to drinking at the bar and putting drinking above everything else above being a father,

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but being a husband, the reason that I asked my daughter to move in, and she finally did

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is is because and what I'm doing today is I'm working a living right after her mother

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died, her mother died, her mother died from cancer, my sister was in the hospital room

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with my daughter when she passed. And right before she passed, she said, Tell your father

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I forgive it. My daughter has never said that she's never shared that. So you know, she

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still gets I'm still on the hook. I'm still on the hook. But and that's the most important

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thing for me to do. You know, when all is said and done, I've made the whole circuit

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and and today my motto is dare to be dull, dare to be dull and just be the father story.