From First Beer at 11 to Sobriety: A Journey Through Addiction and Recovery
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From First Beer at 11 to Sobriety: A Journey Through Addiction and Recovery

Episode description

The speaker recounts drinking Budweiser at age 11, teenage homelessness, a pregnancy that forced a nine‑month break from drinking, and the descent into meth use before attaining lasting sobriety in 1999 through Alcoholics Anonymous. With candid reflections on family, street life, and the support of a sponsor, the story shows how the unbearable became bearable through recovery.

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- I'm grateful to be here, I'm delighted to be here.

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I made a lot of friends on the 405 freeway tonight.

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Thank you, Karen, for inviting me.

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It's an honor and a privilege to do anything

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for Alcoholics Anonymous, thank you.

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I'll share with you what it was like,

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what happened and what it's like today.

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My sobriety date is June 2nd, 1999.

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My sponsor's name is Sharon C,

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my home group is a specific group.

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And welcome to any newcomers to Alcoholics Anonymous.

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This is the place to stop drinking and using drugs.

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If you have a problem with drinking and using

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or if somebody thinks that you do, I like our story.

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Anyway, yeah, I grew up in Lancaster

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and that was my first resentment.

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It's not why I started drinking,

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but it is why I started doing crystal meth.

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So all I'm gonna say about that.

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So yeah, I grew up in Lancaster.

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I had this big Mexican American family.

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We drink for every reason, baptisms, weddings,

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funerals, graduate, everything for everything.

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And my mom had a lot of brothers and sisters

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and a lot of aunts and uncles, and they would have,

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I'm old, but in the '70s,

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they had Soul Train and Soul Train line dances.

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So we had that in my grandma's living room

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and they had a bar.

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Usually grandmas have like these cute little cherubee,

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not my grandma, she had a bar and we drank.

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Budweiser beer, that was my first drink.

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So I drank in the summer, I was 11 and a half years old.

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My mom shipped me off to my grandma's house

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and I drank Budweiser beer in the park with my Chola aunts

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and they made me all Chola, my hair was really high

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and I had red lipstick on and had black eyeliner.

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And I remember my aunt Becky,

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haven't even had a drink yet and my aunt Becky is like,

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"Please don't smoke because we're gonna hairspray our hair.

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We don't wanna catch on fire."

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And so I totally behaved and then we walked down to the park

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and we shared a six pack of Budweiser beer.

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And I didn't know that was gonna kick off my alcoholism.

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I had no idea I was an alcoholic.

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I had no idea I was a baby drunk.

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I loved it, I don't know if it was hot, it was summer.

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I mean, I drank it and then I drank another one

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and we were supposed to share a six pack, but I had three,

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they shared the other three.

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I was sharing kind of and what happened for me

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is these Cholo guys came and they're low rider cars

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so we jumped in the car and they had more alcohol

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and blah, blah, blah.

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And then we were, I guess, cruising, I guess we'd call it.

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So we were cruising and then I over drank

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because I had some of theirs, they shared with me

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and then I was starting to throw up half in the car

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and half out of the car.

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And I couldn't like get the window down anyway.

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So when I brought my head back in, I was like,

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"Oh my God, this is so much fun."

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And it was the eighties, so all the stuff went,

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hope you had dinner, all the barf went into my hair

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and just so much fun, you guys.

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If it could have stayed like that,

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I would have kept on drinking.

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That was a good night and I didn't drink every day.

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Like I said, I was really young.

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I didn't start drinking every day till I was about 15.

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So it took a little while.

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And I grew up in this alcoholic home

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and it's just crazy when I grew up in that home

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and I had had it up to here with my parents.

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They were, "Oh, thank you."

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So what happened for me is I just ran away.

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Like I ran away for good.

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I was about what, 13?

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I was hitchhiking up and down Sierra highway.

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I had my backpack with me and all my makeup

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and my Madonna records.

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And I just remember feeling like more at home on the streets

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than I did in my own home.

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That's a weird feeling.

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And so my experiences is once I took that drink,

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I was being driven.

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Like I dropped out of school.

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I gave up those friends.

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I sacrificed them my safe,

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well, at least a roof over my head for homelessness.

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I sacrificed having a meal every day

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and I was eating out of a trash can

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when it got really desperate.

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Sleeping in my friend's cars

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or sleeping in somebody's garages

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and hiding in bushes so the cops won't come and get me

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and drag me back home.

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I mean, it was so serious.

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Yeah, I thought I was having fun.

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And looking back through my inventory,

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I can tell, I could look back on the pages

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and see where I've been driven by my own alcoholism

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all the way back from when I was 11,

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that first night I took that drink.

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So by the time I was 15 and I had moved in with this guy

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and we were having a baby,

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that's the only thing that put the brakes on my drinking

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is that I got pregnant

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and I was able to not drink for nine months.

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Not because I had all this spirituality or any,

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I don't know, I was just not so addicted yet

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that I could put the drink down for nine months.

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And he was the drug dealer, the local drug dealer,

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so he was like perfect for me.

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And we had a good little side business.

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I was good at weighing and measuring.

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But there were problems because we were having a baby

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and so I got hauled out of there and onto foster home.

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The story does get better by the way.

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Went to foster care and it was just that.

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It was just a crazy alcoholic life

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and it's the only normal one I know.

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And looking back on it,

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that girl that I just told you about, she's dead.

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She didn't make it.

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Like I could not keep drinking the way I was drinking.

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I could not drag my little tiny baby boy as a 15 year old

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from heartbreak to heartbreak, house to house,

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living the way I was living.

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I couldn't do it.

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The only way I could do it is drinking.

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Like it made the unbearable bearable.

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A lady in AA said, that's what you did.

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You made the unbearable bearable.

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And I was physically desiring drinking

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but I thought I was having fun.

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I got a little job.

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I got better.

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I went to a continuation school

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where they sent all the pregnant teenage girls.

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So I went there.

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Then I thought the problem was Lancaster.

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So I had my little son

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and then I moved all the way to Cini Valley.

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And I know, I know it's just as windy in Cini Valley

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and hot in Cini Valley.

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And now I'm in my 20s and fast forward,

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I found a better job, a better place to live.

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And what I'm sharing is that

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even though my life is getting better,

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the insides were not.

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The thinking was not.

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I was still suffering from insane thinking

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'cause why would drinking sound like a good idea

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if I'm already having blackouts?

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Why would drinking again sound like a good idea

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if I'm already like driving drunk?

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Why would drinking again sound like a good idea

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if I forget which babysitter I have left my son with?

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And that's how I drink.

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I just thought I was a bad mom

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or I didn't know how to save money.

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'Cause I would spend all my money at the bar

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and I would think, gosh, maybe if I only took $20 in

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I would only spend that 20.

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And maybe I wouldn't get so drunk.

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But no, that didn't happen.

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I just found another way to get more alcohol.

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And so what happened for me was I was getting older

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and getting more and more drunk

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because the disease of alcoholism is progressive.

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My little son's growing up

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and I thought I was in a pretty safe place.

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And there was one time I went to somewhere far.

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I can't even think of the city,

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but it was called Quiet Canyon,

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wherever the heck that place is.

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And I won a salsa dancing contest, $500.

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I didn't know I was in it 'cause I was in a blackout,

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but still want that money.

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And I'm like, hey, this is not bad.

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But then I would drink at another bar

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and bad things happen and the sky took me away.

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And so right before my life flashed before my eyes

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when he was pounding on this bathroom door

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and he was busting in, he was a complete stranger.

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I don't even remember much.

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But I just remember my whole life flashed before my eyes

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and I thought, I don't wanna die like this.

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I do wanna raise my son.

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And if I am gonna die, I wanna choose how I die.

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And you would think that that would make me stay sober.

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Like at least not drink for a while.

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But man, when his fist crashed into this side of my head,

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I was grateful when I came to the next day like,

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oh, I'm still alive, that's good.

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And maybe if he lets me go, I'll do something different.

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It's kind of like not very good prayer.

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But I asked God, please help me be better.

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So when he did let me go, when he released me,

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first thing I did is I drove home and I opened the door

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and I went straight to the fridge and get a drink.

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I did not think maybe I should stop drinking.

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I thought maybe I shouldn't go to Mexican bars

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in the valley 'cause it's not safe.

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So my girlfriends and I, we started going to Irish pubs

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and we started drinking lots of beer.

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Sounds like a good idea to me.

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I did not stop drinking.

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I didn't stop drinking for another four, maybe five years.

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And then in between that, I married my coworker.

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I know it's crazy.

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Like if ever you think getting married

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is gonna help you with your drinking,

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it actually makes it worse.

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So that's my experience.

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Don't tell him that.

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But so I got married to my coworker roommate guy

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and I thought, God, thank God we're roommates

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'cause I would never go out with you.

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And then I got married and I thought,

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what is, my life was just spinning out of control

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and I had all these plates spinning.

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And so my experiences, what I was experiencing

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was utter hopelessness, which is wanting to stop

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but can't stop drinking, insanity,

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thinking that a drink is gonna make things better, blackouts.

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And then by the time I stopped drinking,

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what happened was I would, I got married

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and I would fly to Las Vegas every Mother's Day

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'cause it was very stressful being a mom.

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And then I would lie and say my name is Sarah

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and I would drink and dance.

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And then I was accidentally hanging out with a pimp.

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It's a long story.

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I was hanging out with a pimp.

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I didn't know it, but the fur coat

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and the hat and the feather should have been a clue.

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He looked me in the eyes.

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He's like, Sarah, oh, I lied and say my name is Sarah.

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Sarah, are you sure you want me to do this?

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Do you want a drink?

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And I said, yes, I want a drink.

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And then I had been hearing voices by now.

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I don't know, probably nobody hears voices like I did,

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but I was hearing voices.

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And this one actually had a good idea.

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It said, get out of the car and run.

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And so I did what we did.

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And then I grabbed my shirt

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and I went running across that big street

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'cause streets are much whiter in Vegas.

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They really are.

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And I was bloated.

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I was in and out of a blackout.

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I was sunburned on my armpit and the roof of my mouth

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'cause I'd hang out.

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I had hung out at the pool all day.

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And so it hurt to run and I over drank.

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And so have you ever been so drunk and bloated?

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Like you hold your belly so you could run faster

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'cause it's sloshing around.

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But that's kinda how it was.

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I was racing to get out of there 'cause I thought,

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he's gonna get me.

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And I look back, nobody was there.

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So that's hallucination, I think.

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I could be wrong.

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I called my husband at the time and said,

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you have to fly me home.

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This is the end, you guys.

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I mean, it should be the end.

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I called him, told him what happened.

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The girls stole my money and they left me in Vegas.

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So you got to come get me or give me money

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or buy me a ticket.

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And he's like, you have the worst friends.

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I said, I know, they are terrible.

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I'll never do this again.

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And I flew home.

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I didn't have a blackout.

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And what I was gonna do was he met me at the gate.

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This was before 9/11.

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He met me at the gate and he wanted to know what happened.

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I couldn't look him in the eye.

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I said, I told you what happened.

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And I slipped out of there and he took me to my car

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and I was gonna take my car and crash it

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into the pillar on the freeway, on the 405 freeway.

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And when I went to go do it, he was following me

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so I couldn't, chickened out.

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And that's the end.

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Talk about the hopelessness and the despair of the alcoholic.

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The loneliness, even though I'm a married woman

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with friends, children, my dog, Jaeger.

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I mean, I still not stopped drinking.

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That loneliness and then drinking and pouring the alcohol

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on top of that loneliness is like,

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it just wasn't helping anymore.

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Have you ever drank yourself clear?

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Like you drank so much, but your head is still going,

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but your body's all, yeah, that was me at the end.

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So I drove home and my sons met me at the door.

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My once, my oldest son and then my two stepson.

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And I said, mommy's sick.

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I went upstairs and it dawned on me

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I should probably call this girl who I had met

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at a class I was in.

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We'd gone to a play a couple of weeks earlier

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and I told her what happened.

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'Cause she told me she was in ANA

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and she didn't drink no matter what.

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One's too many, a thousand's not enough.

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I'm like, what in the heck kind of math is that?

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Like, what are you talking about?

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And the talk is really good.

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She goes to a meeting every day at 7 a.m. in Burbank

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and she calls her sponsor lady every day.

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And then she goes to work after the meeting

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and then she stays there the whole day.

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And I was like, wow, that's amazing.

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How do you stay at work the whole day?

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And so I called her and told her what happened in Las Vegas

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where I was so drunk and I was dancing

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with my best friend Sparkles and then the pimp guy.

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And she's like, oh my gosh, that happens all the time in AA.

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You will fit right in.

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And I believed her.

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I'm like, really?

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She's like, yes, we hang out with pimps all the time.

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And I felt so comforted, like really?

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There's a place for me?

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She's like, oh, you're gonna fit right in.

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Can you go to a meeting today?

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And I was, maybe I overreacted.

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And I said, yes, I could go.

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I wasn't gonna go that day, maybe though.

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I lied.

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She said, can you not drink that day?

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And I said, yes, I don't have to drink every day.

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I just like to drink every day.

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That's why I drink every day, but I don't have to.

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But if I wanted to, but if I don't want to

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and you don't want me to, I won't.

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And she's like, okay, don't.

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And I'm like, whoa.

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And so by five, I don't know what time it was

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in the morning that morning, I don't even remember.

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But I remember right around five or six o'clock

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I was pacing, it was time for me to drink.

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So I drink every time I was supposed to be cooking dinner.

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I was a stay-at-home mom by now.

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It was designed that way so I could drink.

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That was a hard day.

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That was June 1st.

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My Friday day is June 2nd.

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So that was June 1st.

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June 2nd, I had nothing in me.

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I went to a meeting the day after that in Agoura Hills.

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It was at a bank.

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And I walked up to the, and they were really happy.

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And they were drinking coffee and smoking cigarettes

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and hugging and the men were slapping each other on the back

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like, hey, and I was like, who are these people?

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And they were looking at me like, who is that?

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'Cause I remember I was all bloated and fat

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and I have a sunburn everywhere.

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And they're like, who is that?

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And they asked me, are you new here?

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And I said, no, I've been in this neighborhood

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for many years and they laugh so hard.

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I hope they made it to the area.

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I'm like, what did I do?

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They're like, okay, welcome.

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And they sat me down.

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It was like a half circle, like a U, like a half circle.

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And they sat me at the end

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and they gave me a half cup of coffee

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and they were really nice to me.

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And here's what I know now,

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the power of a higher power working in that meeting,

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expressing God through those people,

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unconditional love for this crazy, sunburned,

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smelly, bloated, sweaty newcomer, me.

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And the topic of the meeting

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was their first year of sobriety.

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I don't think that was the topic when I first got there.

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I think they changed it.

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I could be wrong.

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And they each went around the room

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and they shared about their first year.

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And all I thought was, oh, oh, okay.

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But a meeting directory.

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And I was like, no, thank you.

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No, thank you.

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No, thank you.

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No, thank you.

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No, thank you.

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No, I'm just kidding.

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No, I'm just kidding.

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You got my tissues.

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Sorry.

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Thank you, Enrique.

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You're so kind.

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On this, I did say I'm like an alcoholic.

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And I said I was new and then I started crying

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and they're like, yay, we can do it.

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I had had a newcomer for a while.

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So they're like, let's get her.

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(mumbles)

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And I appreciated that

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because that's the unconditional love

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that we get in Alcoholics Anonymous.

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Like they didn't want anyone to go out that door

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not feeling welcomed.

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And I really appreciated that

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because anytime I walked in the door

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and I was a mess, her family would be like,

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oh, here she is again.

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Oh, who asked, who told her that to come?

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I'm that friend where everybody's invited

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and I accidentally find out and I show up

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and they're like, oh, who told you?

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That was the, I was, anyway.

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They said, keep coming back.

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And one little guy looked like a leprechaun.

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His name was Ralph.

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And I haven't seen him since.

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But anyway, he had shocking red hair, green shirt.

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And he was like, listen, kid,

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you're gonna go to this meeting on Wednesday.

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You're not gonna tell me no.

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And the only reason why I did it

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is 'cause he had a big bulbous nose

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with the red vein going through it.

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And I thought, I'm gonna look like that

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if I keep drinking.

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So where's your meeting?

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And I didn't know you guys had meetings

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like many days a week.

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I thought there was only one on Sunday

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and the one on Wednesday.

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So from Sunday to Wednesday, I just waited till that meeting.

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And I went, they were really nice.

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And they told me to go to another meeting.

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And then I met some women

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and those women told me to go to this other meeting.

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And then I started going to meetings

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Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Sunday, and on Sunday too.

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And my sponsor lady was Tamra.

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Tamra took me through the 12 steps of Alcoholics Anonymous

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my first year out of the 12 and 12, and she was fabulous.

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I mean, I was hanging on by a thread.

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At 60 days, I thought I might drink

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because I had to sniff vodka.

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I didn't just know if it still smelled like vodka.

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And I already knew where my ex-husband,

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my husband at the time, I knew where he hid it

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because that's just, we just know where it is.

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It's like, oh, there it is.

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And it's still smelled the same.

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I called the lady.

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If you're new to Alcoholics Anonymous, call the people.

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I called this lady and I told her that I had sniffed alcohol

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and she's like, oh, no, no, no, we don't do that in AA.

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I said, we don't?

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I know we don't drink, but we don't sniff either.

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No, no, we don't.

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Who's your sponsor?

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I said, you're the, I made this deal with God

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that this is what I actually told her.

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I'm gonna call all the women on the women's list,

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the Friday women's list, and you're number 21

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and nobody answered, so I figured if no one answers

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then it's okay to drink 'cause I could always come back.

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And she said, and then she answered the phone

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so I was mad, so I couldn't drink.

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And she said, no, we don't, we just don't,

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you're not gonna drink today.

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I said, oh, okay, and then I didn't.

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And then it was inches and seconds, my sponsor always says.

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I think Norm Alpe says that too, inches and seconds.

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Seconds and inches, and my first year was rocky.

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My ex-husband was used to me drinking

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and being a drunk wife all the time.

16:51

And my kids were like, why are you here?

16:53

Like, I'd go see them in their room

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'cause the AA lady's like, remember all your kids?

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You should try to talk to them.

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Like, oh, okay, how?

17:01

And she's like, just go in their room

17:02

and do what they're doing.

17:03

And I'm like, they're doing this

17:05

and their room smells like dirty socks.

17:08

And she's like, just sit down in there.

17:10

So I went in there and they're like, why are you here?

17:13

I knocked on the door and they're like, yes.

17:16

It was so funny.

17:16

Those boys, my oldest son and my two step sons,

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they're both, the oldest ones are 37 now.

17:22

And the youngest one is 33 now.

17:25

And they're all married, they all have children.

17:26

That's how it started in my journey in Alcoholics Anonymous.

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My sponsor always says she has her dignity back

17:32

and she got her innocence back.

17:33

And that's my experience too.

17:35

It was only through the 12 steps of Alcoholics Anonymous

17:37

and totally surrendering and sacrificing something

17:40

that was not working, drinking and using

17:42

and being a crazy chick out there and a party girl,

17:45

all that stuff that I was doing,

17:46

lying and cheating and trying to outrun my thinking

17:50

by drinking, I had to give all that up and sacrifice.

17:53

And it wasn't like a huge sacrifice.

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Yes, it is a huge sacrifice.

17:58

Yes, it is.

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But only looking back now,

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it's nothing compared to the whole life that I have today.

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Meaning I had to sacrifice something

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that was completely not working.

18:07

And eventually I probably would have died or gone to jail

18:10

to get something better and the whole way of life,

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the new way of life is sobriety, helping others,

18:16

freedom, happiness, joy, serenity, peacefulness,

18:20

no wrecked cars, no, I shouldn't say that.

18:24

I won't say that, that's not nice.

18:25

But nice people in my life and not mean ones.

18:28

Well, if they are, I'm sober enough to say thank you,

18:30

but no thank you, keep it moving.

18:32

So letting go and letting God

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has led to this incredible life,

18:37

but it wasn't without sacrifice.

18:39

And I talked to someone about this too recently.

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She's like, well, it's just so hard to let go.

18:43

I'm like, it's hard to let go of all your DUIs.

18:45

It's hard to let go of that boyfriend

18:46

that's beating the hell out of you.

18:48

That's a tough one, I remember mine.

18:50

What else is hard?

18:51

It's hard losing,

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it's hard to let go of the job that you've been fired.

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Yep, that's hard to let go.

18:55

And then she started laughing.

18:57

She's like, oh, I guess things aren't very good, are they?

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I just had to laugh 'cause I felt the same way.

19:02

I remember I was telling my husband about alcoholics,

19:05

my husband at the time about Alcoholics Anonymous

19:07

and he's like, oh my gosh, honey,

19:09

I think I'm really concerned

19:10

because they're brainwashing you.

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And yeah, you should tell someone.

19:15

And so I told my friend Rebecca in the Wednesday meeting,

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I'm like, Rebecca, did you know that

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my husband said that you guys are brainwashing me?

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And she's like, yeah, we are.

19:22

It's true because your brain needs washing.

19:27

Oh, okay.

19:29

She's like, you're trying to change my whole life.

19:33

She's like, yeah, we are

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because your life sucked before.

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I was like, whoa, okay.

19:36

And it's like, she told me anything I said,

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I said, all I do is cry, I'm so sad.

19:42

She's like, yeah, it's sad.

19:43

Your life is very sad.

19:45

And she said, and all things need water to grow,

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so you're doing great.

19:50

And then I told her I had a year

19:52

and this lady became my sponsor.

19:53

And then I said, my husband, after I turned a year sober,

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so this is why the big book says no human power

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can relieve me of my alcoholism

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and that I had to trust and rely upon God

20:03

and do the 12 steps.

20:04

'Cause my husband came to me at the time

20:06

and had a year and he said, I miss my old wife.

20:09

I miss my old life.

20:11

When can you drink, I guess, but not how you did drink.

20:15

So then I told on him to my women's meetings,

20:17

ladies, I reported him, oh, you should tell your sponsor.

20:20

I'm like, that's a great idea.

20:21

I should tell my sponsor too.

20:23

So I took my sponsor and my sponsor said,

20:25

oh, we sure are gonna miss him.

20:27

We got divorced, not because of that statement,

20:32

but I had to really work my program.

20:34

Now I'm in my second year with or without a family.

20:36

'Cause if I start drinking again,

20:38

I'm gonna lose my whole family anyway.

20:39

And we ended up not staying together.

20:41

And so we walked through all of that.

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I say we, meaning the people in my support group,

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my sobriety sisters, my sponsor, and most of all, God.

20:48

Talk a lot about God because my higher power

20:49

is the one that saves me all the time.

20:51

Higher power is the one who answers the call

20:53

no matter what time of day it is,

20:54

whether there's meetings or no meetings or phone people

20:57

or answering people or people or not.

20:58

People are great and I love the people in my life,

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but I just know they cannot save me.

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I have to go to a higher power.

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My sponsor shows me the way out through the 12 steps.

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But when I was, you know, not doing so well,

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it was the higher power that I went to on my knees.

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And I learned to say this prayer, God, please help me.

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God, please save me from the obsession of self.

21:15

And then this prayer, these are not in the big book,

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but the prayer like, God, please don't let anything

21:19

get in the way of my spiritual experience.

21:21

And I would just say that on my knees

21:23

until the urge to either drink or use somebody

21:26

or do something to myself or use something like food

21:29

or shopping or whatever it is.

21:31

And I would just stay there on my knees

21:33

because what I'm left with is after you take the drinking

21:36

and the drugs and the meth and the food and the this

21:38

and the that away, all that's left is me and my higher power

21:40

and how to get real close and get real clear

21:42

to that higher power about what it means to stay sober

21:45

and alcoholics anonymous one day at a time

21:48

for the rest of my life.

21:49

And what am I gonna do?

21:50

What kind of life do I wanna live?

21:52

Do I wanna be miserable in AA?

21:53

No, I wanna be happy, joyous and free.

21:55

So I had the opportunity to do the steps all over again.

21:58

And now I'm almost three years sober

22:00

and I had gotten divorced, had a new career, money,

22:03

this, that, boyfriends.

22:05

I got engaged a couple of times

22:07

to a couple of different people, not at the same time,

22:10

different and that wasn't it either.

22:12

I ran a marathon, went to Hawaii,

22:15

but I still felt like I'm not gonna make it in AA.

22:17

And this lady took me through all the 12 steps

22:20

out of the big book and she showed me the truth

22:21

about my alcoholism that just 'cause I'm sober

22:24

in the middle of AA doesn't mean I'm like completely safe

22:26

'cause the insanity came back

22:28

and I wasn't thinking about drinking,

22:29

but I was thinking if this doesn't get better

22:31

'cause I thought I had done everything in AA.

22:33

Meetings, commitments, working with others, doing all that,

22:37

but not have a spiritual experience.

22:39

I can't not, I'm not gonna make it.

22:41

It says I have to have a spiritual experience.

22:43

That's what it says in the big book and hadn't.

22:46

So she took me through all the 12 steps all the way through

22:50

and I got to really see the truth

22:52

about my alcoholism, drunk or sober.

22:54

I knew that I was powerless over Dr. Jekyll,

22:56

who I am when I'm drinking and using,

22:58

but I didn't know I was powerless over Ms. Hyde,

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who I am sober.

23:01

Probably got that backwards,

23:03

but you'd think you know what I mean.

23:04

I didn't know I was powerless over the stuff

23:05

I was doing while sober,

23:07

like the whole engagement thing, engagements things.

23:09

That kind of stuff and it got real.

23:12

I was $68,000 in debt, had to pay all the money back,

23:15

had to sell my house, get rid of the cars, the convertible,

23:17

had to get rid of everything

23:18

because that stuff was blocking me

23:20

from the sunlight of the spirit.

23:21

I didn't know what I didn't know.

23:22

I didn't know I was blocked by

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from the sunlight of the spirit.

23:25

I didn't know all those things I was doing

23:27

was walking me towards the drink.

23:29

I didn't know that I could have a complete

23:31

and total spiritual experience of my mind,

23:33

my body and my soul.

23:35

I didn't know that I could have peace and freedom

23:38

and that I didn't need to have money to be okay.

23:40

I didn't know that not having a husband or a boyfriend,

23:43

that I still had value because I'm a human being

23:46

and a spiritual being and I'm a beautiful child of God,

23:49

whole and complete, lacking nothing, needing no one.

23:51

I didn't know any of that.

23:53

And what I didn't know was hurting me.

23:55

I didn't know that I was trying to use things

23:58

that were less than God and that none of it

24:00

was going to work.

24:01

I didn't know that.

24:02

I'm glad I learned that because that kept me sober

24:05

long enough to go through all the 12 steps.

24:07

And that's just my experience.

24:09

Like other people in my experience,

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I've seen in my observation,

24:12

they don't have to, they can do all those things

24:15

and they're still okay.

24:15

Maybe they're just hard drinkers or heavy drinkers,

24:18

but I couldn't, got kind of scary.

24:20

But what happened for me on step 11,

24:22

I was actively doing step nine, making all my amends,

24:25

paying all that money back,

24:27

making amends to everybody and everything.

24:29

And it was crazy.

24:30

And then I got to step 10

24:31

and then I started doing God dates with God, obviously.

24:34

God dates 'cause I wasn't dating anyone.

24:36

So that was kind of a shock.

24:38

And I was willing to do that.

24:40

And I was spending 6 p.m. to 12 a.m. on Friday nights

24:43

with a higher power.

24:44

That was my step 11.

24:46

So I was doing 10 and I was living in step 11.

24:48

That makes, I hope I didn't get that.

24:50

Anyway, that's what I was doing when all of a sudden

24:52

I went to this luncheon in Malibu

24:54

and all my sponsors' birthday party.

24:56

And my mind was still chattering,

24:59

the mind chatter, the obsession of the mind.

25:02

And then I crossed the threshold of the restaurant

25:04

and it just got removed, all that thinking.

25:07

And then it took me by surprise.

25:09

I thought, is that what they were talking about in meetings?

25:11

Is that what that means in the big moment?

25:13

Like this just stops and gets quiet

25:14

and I get to be in the moment

25:16

and seeing genuinely wanting to help others,

25:19

not in a selfish way because I need to help you

25:21

because I'm not gonna make it if I don't help you, not that.

25:23

Just, hey, everybody, did you know

25:25

that there's some promises in the big book?

25:27

And they're like, yeah, we know.

25:28

I was like, wow, we did it.

25:29

I knew they were in there,

25:30

but until I had the experience of them myself,

25:33

then it was real.

25:34

And that's what I've learned in my experience in AA,

25:37

like these things are real.

25:38

What they talk about in the big book,

25:40

like a spiritual experience of the white light variety

25:43

and the educational variety, those things are real.

25:45

The promises are real.

25:46

And I asked my sponsor at the time,

25:47

I go, wait a second, you mean I do everything in this book,

25:50

I'm gonna get this?

25:51

Yeah.

25:52

And I was halfway through paying all the money.

25:54

That still hurts.

25:55

I wanted to keep their money.

25:57

I wanted my their money.

25:59

And it was so hard.

26:02

You mean, thank you.

26:04

If I pay all this stuff, I'll have promises?

26:07

I'll have, she said, yeah, really?

26:09

And I thought, whoa, I said, do you promise?

26:11

She's like, well, yes, it's a promise.

26:14

I was like, whoa, you're guaranteeing me this?

26:17

She said, yes, if you do everything.

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And I had to do everything.

26:20

And so that was many years ago.

26:21

That was 21 years ago.

26:23

And it's been like that ever since.

26:25

Nothing can take away that spiritual experience.

26:27

Nothing can take away the thing that just sits right here,

26:29

which is the higher power that always wanted to drink.

26:31

That part just got all filled up from the love of God

26:33

and it just stays there.

26:34

What it's like today is I got married to my best friend.

26:36

He's sober 12 years.

26:37

We've been together 10 years.

26:39

I was today at my oldest son

26:41

that I told you about, my 37 year old son.

26:43

He and his girlfriend are gonna be having a baby.

26:46

I'm gonna be a grandmother in December.

26:48

Life is completely different, that old life.

26:51

I guess I just needed to have that experience

26:53

so I could share it with all of you

26:54

and maybe help another woman or man.

26:55

And so what it's like is my higher power

26:57

goes with me everywhere.

26:58

I don't make excuses for my higher power.

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I just, I have to just, oh,

27:02

I know what I wanna talk about.

27:03

I have to do what the higher power says.

27:05

He immediately, I have to obey that higher power.

27:07

So if I get thought about something or someone,

27:10

I have to call them or I have to text them like,

27:12

hey, I know it's weird.

27:13

You haven't heard from me, but you popped into my mind.

27:14

Here's a check.

27:15

So they'll call me.

27:16

And some people are like, oh my God,

27:17

I was just thinking of you.

27:18

And it gets like, woo.

27:19

It's not meant to be scary, but it gets like that.

27:22

I don't know what you call it, but that's what happens.

27:24

I guess it's called the intuitive thought or action.

27:26

That's what it's called in the big book.

27:27

So I take action on it.

27:29

I call it inspiration and I get inspired and I go do it.

27:34

And so, and that's what it's like today.

27:36

How much time we have?

27:37

So I got married and he's a wonderful man.

27:39

We started a family and this is the power of the 12 steps

27:42

and having a connection to a higher power.

27:43

We were starting a family

27:45

and I had been pregnant with twin girls

27:47

and I was five and a half months and I lost those girls.

27:49

We lost those girls.

27:51

I had terrible miscarriage

27:52

and we were in a hospital in Santa Monica

27:55

and I never turned my back on God.

27:57

I did not get mad at God.

27:58

I was just heartbroken as my husband was heartbroken

28:01

and all our friends and family, we were heartbroken.

28:03

And I just remember the moment that we were going through

28:05

in the hospital room that we just stopped.

28:07

My husband and I are so well-trained in alcoholics.

28:10

We just stopped and held hands and prayed

28:11

and the whole room got quiet.

28:12

I mean, there were eight other people there,

28:14

technicians and doctors and specialists.

28:16

And they were trying to save my life and their life.

28:18

And it just wasn't looking good.

28:20

And I just, we just prayed and the room got still.

28:23

And then we made it through that.

28:24

And I just remember it was very sad of course

28:27

'cause the grief is overwhelming.

28:28

I did not wanna turn my back on God

28:31

'cause it wasn't God's fault.

28:32

It was just something that happened.

28:33

And some things remain a mystery

28:35

and I guess I'll find out later or maybe I won't

28:37

but I have to be okay with that.

28:38

And having that connection to a higher power made it okay.

28:41

It wasn't what I wanted, but it made it okay.

28:43

And I did not have to drink and I did not have to use.

28:45

I did have to get out of bed sometimes

28:47

'cause my sponsor made me,

28:48

but I didn't have to do anything else.

28:50

I remember opening the curtain to the hospital room

28:53

and there was this beautiful rainbow outside of the window

28:56

and it was July, it was July 18th

28:58

and there was a beautiful rainbow.

29:00

And I said, okay, that's my sign from God

29:02

that everything's okay.

29:03

The girls are with their higher power.

29:04

So we said hello and goodbye that same day.

29:07

And then my husband and I,

29:08

we got to get really even more close

29:10

and even closer to our higher powers.

29:12

And what happened in one minute and 10 seconds

29:15

is that four years later,

29:16

we adopted a little boy and he's a gift from God.

29:19

His name is Matthew and he's the light and love of our lives.

29:23

And the whole thing just came about

29:24

by trusting and relying upon God.

29:26

I didn't know we were gonna have a little boy,

29:29

but I remember that inspired thought or action.

29:32

I told my husband, I have to quit working

29:34

'cause the baby's coming.

29:35

He's like, that's a good one.

29:36

(laughing)

29:38

He's like, what do you mean you're gonna quit working?

29:39

I'm like, the baby's coming, the baby's coming.

29:41

We've got to get ready.

29:42

That was on May 29th and he was born on July 29th.

29:47

So he came exactly 60 days later.

29:49

I left the house and we all spent time together

29:52

with my oldest son in Moorpark, California.

29:54

And we raced back here so I could be here with all of you.

29:56

And my oldest son and my littlest son,

29:59

they were hugging and playing.

30:00

And I thought, this is so funny.

30:01

One's 37 and one's four.

30:03

(laughing)

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So if you're new to Alcoholics Anonymous,

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I hope you stay and thank you for letting me share.