Grace's 16-Year Sobriety Journey: Family Roots & Sponsor Support
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Grace's 16-Year Sobriety Journey: Family Roots & Sponsor Support

Episode description

Grace shares how growing up with a functioning alcoholic father shaped her early relationship with drinking, leading to a first drink at age 11. She reflects on 16 years of sobriety, the pivotal role of her long‑term sponsor, and the ongoing work of staying spiritually fit.

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- Please welcome me to the sauce aisle.

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- Thank you for being so close with each other.

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My name is Grace and I'm an alcoholic.

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Thanks, Monty, for your 10-minute pitch.

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I always like when there's somebody talking before me

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because it just reminds me what my job is here tonight.

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Karen, thank you so much for not giving up on me.

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I think this is the third time that you finally got me out.

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We had to reschedule twice before, once because of COVID,

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once because of something else,

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but it's an honor and privilege

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whenever you're asked to come out and participate

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in a meeting of Alcoholics Anonymous,

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and I'm definitely honored to be here with you guys tonight.

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My sobriety date is October 10th, 2006.

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That's not my first sobriety date.

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I just hope it's my last sobriety date, right?

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I really struggled in my first year in and out of these rooms

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until it finally stuck for me.

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I have a home group, that specific group.

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I have a sponsor.

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I talk to her five days a week.

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Even now with this many years of sobriety,

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she says I'm not well enough not to talk to her

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five days a week.

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So I take sponsor direction for the most part.

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And oddly enough,

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that's the longest relationship I've had in my life.

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She's been my sponsor for 14 of those 16 years

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that I've been sober.

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And I grew up in Venice, California.

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Geographics are not a part of my story.

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I live in Culver City, California now,

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and that's like four miles outside of Venice.

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I hear other speakers talk about,

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I woke up on a plane on my way to France.

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That's not my story.

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I never woke up out of a blackout

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to somewhere fancy like that.

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I woke up out of a blackout on my way home from Venice Beach

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trying to get home, but nothing that fancy.

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And the funny thing is when I first came

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to Alcoholics Anonymous,

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I didn't identify with speakers who talked about blackouts.

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I was like, I don't think I have that, right?

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And when you're new, you start looking for the differences.

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And I was like, yeah, I just never really blacked out.

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Well, the truth of the matter is

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towards the end of my drinking,

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I was doing a lot of speeding cocaine.

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So I wasn't blacking out.

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I was rounding out, but you know,

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and we'll get to that a little bit later.

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I believe in singleness of purpose,

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but I can't tell you my story

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if I don't tell you about everything that I did.

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I started with alcohol.

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I ended with alcohol.

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Alcohol is a big part of my life.

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It's where I started.

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I grew up as an only child.

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I had two wonderful parents.

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There's no abuse in my life.

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There's no, I can't, I didn't come to AA

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with this whole resentment with my parents

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or anything like that.

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I had a father, which I refer to as a functioning alcoholic.

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And what that looked like to me growing up

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is he would wake up in the morning,

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take a shot of whiskey, go take shower, go to work.

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And then on his lunch break, he'd sit in his truck

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and he'd have a pint of whiskey underneath the seat.

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He'd take a couple of shots then,

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go back to work, come home, a couple of shots of whiskey

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and a couple of beers and do it all over again.

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I never saw that man drawn.

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I never saw him.

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So I talk about his drinking

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because that formed my opinion about drinking early on.

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I didn't think drinking was a negative thing, right?

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And so it just, that's what I thought drinking was all about.

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And I thought everybody's dad drank that way.

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I didn't have any other point of reference

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other than what my dad was feeling, right?

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And it wasn't until I went to a friend's house

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and spent the night and I was like,

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oh, her dad doesn't drink whiskey in the morning.

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And then I kind of knew we're a little bit different, right?

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But like I said, there was no, I never saw him.

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You know, he did everything.

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He made sure my mom and me had a roof over our head.

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I was well taken care of.

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I wanted for nothing and I never went without food, right?

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So I grew up in a loving family and he was strict.

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He was very strict.

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I definitely was treated like the little boy he didn't have.

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And back then we have, you know,

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in the seventies we had corporal punishment.

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We hit our kids, you know, and I got spanked.

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So, and so, you know, what happened was I never felt

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comfortable and I thought being an only child

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was the biggest part of why I felt the way I felt.

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I thought if I just had a brother or sister,

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I could feel better, right?

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Now I didn't know that was gonna become the theme

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throughout my life.

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If I only had this, if I had this toy,

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I would be much happier.

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If I had that boyfriend, I would be that much happier.

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If I had this much more money, I would be that much happier.

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That can still be my attitude today,

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even with the amount of recovery in my life,

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if I'm not staying spiritually fit.

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But as a child, I didn't have these words.

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I didn't know what those feelings were.

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I just wanted, wanted, wanted, right?

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And I think somewhere around the,

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at the age of 11 is when I had my first drink.

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And what that looked like was I took a couple of shots

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off that whiskey bottle that my dad had in the refrigerator.

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And what I remember about that was it tasted like crap.

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It was horrible.

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It burned, but something told me to keep going.

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And I took a couple of more shots, right?

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Then I got that warm, fuzzy feeling inside.

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And what happened for me was I went in the room,

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did a couple of cartwheels, somersaults, whatever,

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and remembered that feeling.

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I didn't become a daily drinker at the age of 11.

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But at 13, when I got into junior high school,

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you know, the uncomfortable feelings I felt at that age,

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I mean, it's just being a teenager.

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You know, it's just a combination of my alcoholism.

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I believed I was born with this.

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And being a teenager was just a,

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God, I just didn't feel like I fit in.

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And, damn it, I forgot to look at the clock.

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What time do I end?

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7.25.

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- 8.25.

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- 8.25, okay, great, thank you.

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'Cause I'm not that go-over girl.

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I'm not gonna make you guys sit here all night.

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(laughing)

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And what happened at 13, I got invited to a party.

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It was a backyard party.

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There was a cake beer flowing.

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There was a band playing.

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And I was getting really drunk off cake beer.

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And what happened that night for me was,

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felt like I belonged.

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I didn't feel prettier.

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I didn't feel anything.

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I just felt like I belonged to this group of people.

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I made out with a boy,

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and I got really, really drunk that night.

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Now, I woke up on Sunday morning,

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and I was puking my brains out.

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And I thought to myself,

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I'm gonna do this for the rest of my life.

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And I wanna tell you guys,

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at the age of 13, that was my sole purpose in life,

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was to be okay.

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I found my solution.

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I found what was making me feel okay

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and that I could participate in life

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and be a part of this group of people.

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And that's what I did.

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And of course, we couldn't get alcohol all the time.

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And we did a lot of things.

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This was back in the early '80s.

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We pimped a lot of beer.

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We found places they would sell us beer.

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They weren't that strict.

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We did a lot of things, right?

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I spent my summers,

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this is where we were off for summer in June.

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We didn't come back until September.

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So I spent three months at Venice Beach.

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I grew up hanging out at the beach.

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I lived just a few miles outside of Venice.

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I lived in Mar Vista and it was a great time.

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I mean, I could not, you know.

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At 14, my mom came to me and said,

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"You know, me and your dad are gonna get a divorce."

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And I cried for one minute, one minute,

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because what I realized was with him not in the house,

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I could get away with a lot more

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'cause my mom was far less strict.

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When my father said Grace Elizabeth,

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and to put my whole government name into it,

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I knew I was in a lot of trouble.

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And I knew if he was out of the house,

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I could get away with a lot more.

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And that's what happened.

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Basically going into Venice High School at the age of 15,

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my mom was starting to sew her own oats

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and she was off dating and doing, you know,

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the things she hadn't done in years

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'cause she had been married to my father.

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And you know, one time I used to smoke a lot of weed

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'cause we could get weed a lot easier.

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And I was not one who could hide being high, right?

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When I walked in the house,

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it was just a stupid look on my face, a big grin.

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I could not hide.

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I could not hide being high.

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And my mom said to me and one of my girlfriends,

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she said, look, I know you guys are out there

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drinking and partying.

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I would prefer you guys to do it at the house

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where I could keep an eye on you

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and I don't have to worry about you.

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I was like, result, okay, sounds good to me, right?

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And I think we all kind of grew up with one of those friends

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and up until my father separating my mom,

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I had a couple of friends like that.

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And so I always spent the night out

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when I was doing that kind of partying.

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I never did that at home.

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But now this is the summer that I'm going into high school

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and me and all my girls,

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we're partying so hard at my house that whole summer.

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By the time I got to high school in that September,

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I had to give myself a time out.

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I was so drugged out.

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I was just like, oh my God,

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I just smoked so much weed and drank so much

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that whole summer I was done.

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And I got into high school and everything was good.

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My first year I was an A and B student.

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I was doing everything they were supposed to do.

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I made the varsity softball team.

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Softball was my passion.

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That's what I wanted to do.

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And then somewhere in 11th grade,

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it all went to hell in a handbag.

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And I just remember being so uncomfortable

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and feeling like I just didn't have any friends,

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which was all a lie.

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Like I just went to my 35 year high school reunion

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and nobody remembers high school the way I do.

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Like that tells me everything I need to know

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about my perception, about the way I saw things.

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Everybody's like, oh my God, Grace, it's so great to see her.

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I was like, oh my God, I didn't think she liked me, right?

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To this day, I still have that off perception

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about how I see myself

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versus how people actually see me in that situation.

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Anyways, so I barely, you know,

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I'm not going to school in 11th grade.

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I'm doing a lot of drugs, you know, I'm a pig.

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If you tell me it's gonna make me feel great

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some type of way, I'm gonna take it, right?

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And this was the PCP days.

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This is the eighties.

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This is, you know, mushrooms and acid.

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My best friend was selling a lot of acid

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and I fried with her for the first time.

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And what I remember about that was this.

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I was in a nightmare for, I want to say 36 hours.

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If you're not, you know, speed, it's a ride

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you can't get off of, right?

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Once you go ahead and drop that speed,

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whatever happens, happens.

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There's no control, there's no nothing.

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And that wasn't for me, right?

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So I tried different things.

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So when I did it once, somebody, I tried PCP once,

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I did that once too and I didn't like that, right?

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I saw my girlfriend standing there like zombies

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and they were just peeing on themselves

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and they had no control what was gonna happen to them.

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I never went out to get loaded

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so that I could not be in control of myself.

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That's always what I tried to do.

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I just needed to get there, not way over there, just there.

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But I could not do that, right?

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And, you know, through the years

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of being an Alcoholics Anonymous,

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I told you guys I didn't know I had blackouts.

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And then I remember sitting there

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listening to a speaker one night.

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And I was at the Santa Monica Civic Auditorium,

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Motorhead was the show

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and Wendy O was opening up for Motorhead.

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And I had a pint of Jack

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because I was going through my Jack Daniel phase.

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I drink a lot of Jack Daniels.

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Problem is whiskey really takes me out

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and it makes me really mean.

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So I had to move on to other things.

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I didn't drink it, of course.

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But I remember, all I remember is ace of spades

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coming on really loud and that's all I saw at the show.

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My friends found me later on.

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I was passed out in the bathroom with five other girls.

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We're all laying there just passed out.

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And I never saw a Motorhead.

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Never saw a Motorhead in the Santa Monica.

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Pretty resentful about it

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because it's just a little too late for that.

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But that's how we grew up, right?

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Drink, drink, drink until you're just done, you're legless.

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And that's basically what I did every time I drank, right?

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And I hear speakers talk about,

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I wouldn't trade my best day out there

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for my worst day sober, bullshit.

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You know what, I had a good time.

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I grew up in Venice, California

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when it was dog town and with suicidal tendencies.

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And we had a great time.

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I would never go back and change anything I did.

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Nothing, right?

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And it was a lot of fun until it wasn't fun anymore, right?

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Until things got to me.

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Things didn't get to me until I was about 36.

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So there's a few things that happened

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between me getting out of high school.

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I had a lot of dreams and I had a lot of aspirations

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when I was in high school.

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I wanted to become a lawyer or I wanted to be a veterinarian.

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I loved animals and I wanted to work with animals.

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And soon what happened for me

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was I made it through high school.

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I graduated by the skin of my teeth.

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But I told you about that 11th grade year,

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I just wasn't doing well.

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And all my friends were going

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to Phoenix Continuation High School,

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which was behind Venice High School.

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And they were going to school and they were like,

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they had to be at school at nine o'clock in the morning

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and they were off at one.

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They were making ass trades

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and then they're off to the beach.

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That's what I want to do.

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That was me.

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I was like, that's what I want to do.

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They got it easy.

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But there was a guidance counselor that just said,

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no, you know, getting your GED and going to a continuation,

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it's not the same as graduating.

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And so he talked me into staying.

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And what that looked like for me was six classes,

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summer school and Saturday classes.

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And I was, well, all my friends were like four periods

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in their last year.

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I was doing everything all, every day of the week.

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And I played softball, which was important to me.

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I didn't play softball in my 11th grade year

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because I wasn't, I didn't have the grades.

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So I managed to graduate high school by the skin of my teeth.

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But by the time I got out of high school,

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I had already traded those dreams and aspirations

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in for king alcohol.

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And what I did was I got busy

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and I got a job at a veterinary clinic

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and I started to pursue my dream that way,

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but I had no motivation to go to college.

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I just didn't want to do it.

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I had parents who couldn't afford it anyways

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and I certainly didn't have the grades

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because I'd blown that up.

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That was to become a theme in my life, right?

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Blowing things up in my life

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because alcohol became too important to me.

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I'm sorry, I don't know what is happening in the back.

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And so, I move along and I'm doing well

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and I am my father's daughter.

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I look just like my dad.

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I go to work, hungover or not, it doesn't really matter.

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I make my money and I'm 18 years old

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and I'm months out of high school and I'm sitting there

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and my mom's got me paying some sort of like,

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I don't know, $150 rent 'cause in my family,

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nothing's for free, right?

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And I remember I was sitting there with a cold Bud Light.

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It was all sweaty and I drink a lot of Bud Light

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'cause I'm always watching my weight

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and I was writing checks out for my little bills, right?

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You know, we used to write checks back in the day

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we did get to pay our bills online

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and I'm totally, I'm 53, I'm old.

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I'm dating myself here tonight.

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And I remember writing my check out for my rent

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and I'm drinking that beer

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and I remember thinking to myself, I'm gonna drink.

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I knew, I knew I had become a daily drinker at that point.

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I had, I started drinking beer every day

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at that point in my life.

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My mom, she'd say, what do you want from the grocery store?

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I say, just make sure I have beer, you know, and that's it.

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So I become a daily drinker at that point

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and I knew, intuitively I knew I was probably an alcoholic.

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I don't know how I knew that, I didn't know anybody in AA,

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but I knew I was an alcoholic, but I thought to myself,

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you know what, as long as I pay my bills

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and I go to work every day,

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no one's gonna tell me about my drinking.

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So at 18, I had that attitude that I'm gonna drink

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the way I wanna drink for the rest of my life.

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I don't identify with chapter three

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where we, you know, did different things.

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I didn't do a lot of that.

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Even towards the end of my drinking.

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Now I stopped drinking Jack

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because it just got me too drunk, too quick, right?

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I don't care if I'm fighting 'cause I'm a fighter.

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I don't care, you know,

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I'm out there brawling with the rest of them.

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That doesn't matter.

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I didn't stop drinking Jack 'cause I got into fights.

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I just couldn't control it as much.

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Then I moved, you know,

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as the years went on my drinking changed a little bit.

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I was drinking wine and nothing that fine, but just wine.

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And you know, Red Bull and vodka was my drink of choice

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towards the end and Jagermeister on the rocks on the side.

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So that would be my bar back, right?

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And that's the way I drink.

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And I stopped liking the taste of beer.

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So I wasn't drinking much beer towards the end.

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But you know, I didn't do a lot of that changing up

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and I didn't have a lot of repercussions in my life.

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In my twenties, I went to work.

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Like I said, I did all of the things I needed to do.

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I went to work.

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The hangovers were brutal.

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I still went to work.

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I don't know why I didn't drink in the morning before work

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because that would have helped me.

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And I don't know if I just didn't know about,

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I mean, I knew about that on the weekends,

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but for whatever reason, I thought I can't take a drink

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and go to work because they'll smell it on me.

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Now, I didn't think about how much I smelled

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from the night before.

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I can tell you at any given time I was driving to work,

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I was never legally driving.

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You know, I was always going to blow over the limit

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going to work because there were many times I drank

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until three o'clock in the morning

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that I was up at seven to go to work.

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That's not enough time, right?

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Now, I didn't know that until I came to AA

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and I was like, geez, I could have had a DUI.

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There were so many times I had close calls with DUI.

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I don't want to, people get all bitter,

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but I never got a DUI in the 25 plus years

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I was drinking and using.

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I pulled over twice.

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I got out of it.

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It was the 90s.

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I smiled, you know what I mean?

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I got out of it, right?

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I've been handcuffed plenty of times.

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I hung around with a rough crowd in Venice.

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Won't get into too many of those details,

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but I never got arrested.

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Came close, but never got arrested.

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And only because I'm lucky, not any different.

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I went through many periods of my life.

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I was selling a lot of cocaine at one point in my life.

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I had many eight balls in my car.

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I got pulled over, they didn't search my car.

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I got lucky, right?

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I always had a tater of speed in my purse

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'cause speed kept me going.

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That's how I got to work in the morning.

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After those long nights,

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I started a couple of lines of speed and go to work.

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That's my story.

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That became the way I drink.

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The way I could drink as much as I drank

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is I had to do an offer to offset

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what I was doing with alcohol.

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And that's the way I drink.

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So I'm going to fast forward a little bit to 36.

15:14

So let's go to 35.

15:15

I was 35 years old.

15:16

I'm in a boyfriend.

15:17

We're engaged.

15:18

I love him, right?

15:19

And he's, you know, got two kids.

15:22

We're playing house while we have the kids, 50/50,

15:24

and then we're partying while the kids are with their mom.

15:27

And we live in the marina.

15:29

We have a nice townhouse.

15:30

Everything looks great.

15:31

He's got a great job.

15:32

I have a great job.

15:33

At this point, I'm working at the university.

15:34

I work at UCLA.

15:35

And so everything looks good on the outside.

15:38

What happens is this.

15:39

In the process of selling that cocaine,

15:41

he, you know, I have syringes

15:42

'cause I vaccinate my animals.

15:44

He says, "I want you to shoot me up."

15:45

I was like, "No way," right?

15:46

My whole life, I thought anybody who was a heroin addict

15:49

is the worst of the worst.

15:50

They're the junk, the scum of the earth.

15:52

That was my attitude about shooting dope, right?

15:54

So he finally talks me into it.

15:56

I do it.

15:57

He's high, and he's looking like he's having a good time.

15:59

I like to have a good time, and I like to get up.

16:01

So I stick a needle in my arm.

16:02

I never thought that that would be my story.

16:04

I never thought I would sit up here and tell anybody,

16:06

you know, I'm a recovering addict too.

16:08

But that is who I am, right?

16:10

That took me so quick.

16:11

That happened at 35.

16:12

I got sober when I was 36.

16:14

If I didn't do that,

16:15

I don't know if I'd be your speaker here tonight

16:17

because I was making it work.

16:18

I was making it work.

16:19

I don't know if I'd be here tonight and be your speaker,

16:21

but that took me down.

16:22

And so I'm grateful for that.

16:23

And that's my journey, and that's what brought me here.

16:26

And what that looked like was a lot of shame.

16:28

A lot of shame.

16:29

I was shooting dope at work.

16:30

I was doing it, you know,

16:32

I don't want to snort sweet anymore.

16:33

All I want to do is stick a needle in my arm with cocaine.

16:36

And that's it.

16:37

That's all I want to do.

16:37

And that takes you down fast, right?

16:40

And what happened for me was in February of 2006,

16:44

I did what I normally do.

16:45

I made a vodka in Red Bull.

16:47

I went in the bedroom, shot myself up,

16:49

came out about five steps out of the hallway,

16:52

and fell out and had a seizure.

16:53

I woke up with my boyfriend on top of me,

16:55

and he was like, man, I thought you died.

16:56

I said, what's wrong with you?

16:57

Get off of me, I'm fine.

16:58

You're so dramatic, right?

16:59

Now I imagine looking back on that, he was scared.

17:02

He's seeing his girlfriend flip flop on the floor

17:03

like a fish out of water, and that's pretty scary.

17:06

But I didn't feel anything.

17:07

That's his experience.

17:08

I was fine, right?

17:09

But that started my journey.

17:10

And that's what I refer to as my purgatory.

17:12

From February to October 10th,

17:14

I could no longer continue drinking

17:16

and using the way I was doing it.

17:17

I was now in, I can't stop doing what I'm doing,

17:20

but I know I can't continue doing what I'm doing.

17:22

And so that started my journey

17:23

in and out of the rooms of alcoholics.

17:24

Anonymous, I went to an Ed-A meeting.

17:27

I couldn't do it.

17:28

It just, I didn't identify.

17:29

It was, people were sad in this meeting.

17:31

And I was like, why would I do this?

17:34

Why would I sit and do this?

17:35

So I couldn't do that.

17:36

And I knew alcohol, well, not at that time

17:39

I didn't know alcohol was my problem.

17:41

I thought if I could just stop shooting Coke,

17:43

I'd be good, right?

17:44

And what happened was I sat in enough meetings

17:46

of Alcoholics Anonymous, and I caught alcoholism,

17:48

and I realized alcohol has always been my problem.

17:50

If I don't drink, I'm not shooting dope.

17:52

I've never had the urge to shoot cocaine

17:53

since I got sober and stopped drinking.

17:55

But when I drink, that's what I do, right?

17:57

And so, and you can throw a bag of Coke on the table

18:00

and you're like, hey, let's snort this.

18:01

I'm like, nah, I don't do that.

18:02

You got an outfit, I'll shoot it.

18:04

You know, that was how it happened for me.

18:06

So I went on one last run about the 5th of October

18:09

and I was up for three or four days.

18:10

I had called out sick.

18:12

I had a lot of sick days.

18:13

It didn't matter.

18:13

I just called out sick.

18:14

And I had been going in and out of the rooms

18:16

and I talked to this lady, Toni,

18:18

and I finally called her on the morning of October 10th.

18:20

And I said, Toni, I need your help.

18:21

And she said, I've been waiting for you to make that call,

18:23

Grace.

18:24

And she said, you're a slipper and you need Pacific group.

18:26

And when she, I didn't know what that meant

18:28

and I didn't care.

18:29

'Cause what had happened for me is I was out of answers.

18:32

I had no more friendly direction to go

18:34

and I was willing and I was desperate.

18:37

And if you're new,

18:37

and I saw a couple of people raise their hands,

18:40

I hope that's where you're at.

18:41

I hope that you get to keep your seat

18:43

and stay in these rooms.

18:44

'Cause my life has been amazing

18:46

ever since I've made that decision.

18:47

And she took me to a meeting and it was a ticket meeting

18:50

and they gave you a ticket at the door.

18:51

Your number got called,

18:52

you go up to the podium and you share.

18:53

And I wasn't sharing.

18:55

I could tell you that I wasn't raising my hand.

18:57

I wasn't doing any of that stuff,

18:58

but my number got called that night

19:00

and something bigger than me.

19:03

And I choose to call that God

19:04

dragged me up to that podium that night.

19:06

And I said, my name is Grace and I'm an alcoholic

19:07

and I need a sponsor.

19:08

And that started my journey in Alcoholics Anonymous.

19:11

And I'd like to tell you, I never looked back.

19:13

That's not true.

19:14

I don't know about, I don't know,

19:15

60 days into my sobriety,

19:17

I was starting to feel better physically.

19:18

And all of a sudden I realized what I got locked into.

19:20

I don't know if you know the Pacific group.

19:22

They're a bunch of Nazis.

19:23

It's crazy.

19:24

And I have a meeting every night.

19:26

I have a commitment every night

19:27

and I'm going to watches and I'm doing this

19:29

and I'm doing that.

19:30

I'm like, this is crazy.

19:31

How did this happen?

19:32

I told my sponsor that I had, I said,

19:34

what happened in '90 and '90, right?

19:36

And she goes, yeah, we don't do that here.

19:37

You're going to keep that commitment

19:39

till we change secretaries.

19:40

And I started to learn early on.

19:42

I'm grateful for my home group.

19:43

I love my home group.

19:45

I wouldn't have the life I have today

19:46

if I didn't have the home group I have.

19:48

And I started in the step work

19:50

and bless my mom.

19:52

I remember writing my steps out

19:54

and I remember writing out my amends

19:57

and I remember saying to my sponsor,

19:59

I never stole from my mom.

20:00

I never did anything like that.

20:02

I was out and I was out on my own.

20:04

My father had passed away when I was 21.

20:05

I had gotten a little bit of money.

20:07

I moved out at 22.

20:08

I was on my own self-supporting.

20:10

I never stole from my mom.

20:12

I don't know why that was such a big deal in my mind.

20:13

And my sponsor said, hold on a second.

20:16

Did you not call your mom for three weeks at a time

20:19

and make her worry about you?

20:21

And I was like, well, yeah, yeah.

20:23

And she said, you stole a good night's rest from your mom.

20:27

That's what you stole from your mom.

20:28

And I needed my sponsor to show me that.

20:30

I didn't know I needed to make an amends to my mom

20:33

'cause she would.

20:34

She would call me and I wouldn't call her back

20:35

'cause I was busy living my life, living my best life.

20:37

And finally she emailed me at work and said,

20:39

can you just let me know you're still alive?

20:41

And I would call her and go, why are you so dramatic, mom?

20:43

Why are you so dramatic?

20:44

Her only daughter.

20:45

She just wanted to know her only daughter was alive.

20:48

And so what happened for me is I was still,

20:51

I was in that relationship with that guy

20:53

that I told you about him and I was getting sober.

20:55

He was struggling and he wasn't getting sober.

20:57

And so I would be at the meetings

20:59

and the ladies I started to make friends with, which I did,

21:02

they told me straight away,

21:03

find some ladies to hang out with, they'll save your ass.

21:06

They'll take care of you.

21:07

And I did and I got some close friends

21:08

and I was coming home and he was passed out on the couch

21:11

and there'd be a bag of Coke on the table

21:13

and I would walk right past all of that, go upstairs,

21:15

lock the door and lay in bed

21:17

and hope that I can make it through that night, right?

21:19

Because I'd lost my obsession to drink,

21:21

but I didn't lose my obsession to shoot, right?

21:24

And if it was there, it was like, you know,

21:26

it was really hard for me.

21:28

And the ladies that I was sober with, they would say,

21:30

you know what, Grace, you gotta leave him.

21:31

They'd be like, but I love him, right?

21:34

We've seen those couples come into AA together

21:36

and they're like trying, you know, and they're just both,

21:38

you know, and that's what we did to each other.

21:39

You know, one minute he was trying to stay sober

21:41

and I'd be like, no, let's get some alcohol.

21:42

And then it would be vice versa.

21:44

We would do that to each other.

21:45

One time he called me a bitch one too many times.

21:47

And I said, that's it.

21:48

I was three months sober and I left.

21:50

My step-sister that I had through my mom's second marriage,

21:52

she lived a block up the street from my mom

21:54

and she had an extra room and she had a blow up mattress.

21:56

I spent my first year on a blow up mattress

21:58

going to meetings seven days a week and staying sober.

22:00

And that's what I did in my first year.

22:02

And so as I got through my step process,

22:04

my sponsor had talked to me about my mom and making amends.

22:06

And so what I'd started doing is I'd get up

22:08

on a Sunday morning, walk down the street

22:10

and go hang out with my mom and she'd make breakfast, right?

22:12

She stuck me full of pancakes and I'd watch football

22:14

with my mom and my stepdad all day on Sunday.

22:16

I got like 50 pounds heavier

22:18

in my first year of sobriety.

22:19

But that was my living amends.

22:20

My mom knew where her daughter is.

22:22

My mom tonight went to bed at 6.30

22:24

'cause she goes to bed really early

22:26

but she knew where her daughter was gonna be tonight.

22:28

I live with my mom now and I take care of my mom

22:30

because we had lost our stepfather about five years.

22:34

Oh no, more than that now, maybe 10 years ago.

22:36

And I thought she was in a house by herself.

22:38

I said, mom, I should just move in with you

22:40

and I'll pay the property taxes, blah, blah, blah.

22:44

There's no reason.

22:45

And I should have never did that.

22:47

That was way too early

22:48

'cause now I've been living with my mom

22:50

and I didn't think about what I was giving up

22:52

when I decided to move in with my mom eight years ago

22:54

or something like that.

22:56

And I remember telling my sponsor,

22:57

I'm just gonna move in with my mom.

22:58

She goes, hang on a second, we should talk about that.

23:00

I said, oh no, we're like the best of friends.

23:02

We were, we were super close.

23:04

I called her every day when I left work.

23:07

I talked to her all the time, went by on the weekends,

23:09

picked her up, we went to breakfast.

23:10

We did all this stuff, we were best friends.

23:12

I've done four inventories on my mom since I lived there.

23:15

So she's gotten old and a little curmudgeon

23:19

and she's ornery and she's gotten a little mean, right?

23:21

I moved in too soon.

23:22

I didn't realize I was giving up my autonomy, right?

23:25

I didn't think about that.

23:26

I'm a single woman, I'm dating.

23:27

Yeah, I'm not dating anymore.

23:28

I live with my mom, right?

23:30

And I didn't think about those things

23:32

and she didn't need me then.

23:33

She needs me now.

23:34

Alcoholics Anonymous has given my mom back her daughter.

23:38

She has COPD really bad from choices she made smoking

23:41

her whole life and she's on oxygen.

23:43

I take her to her doctor's appointments.

23:45

COVID, while that was the worst thing that ever happened,

23:48

COVID really helped me because we work remotely now

23:51

and they don't bring us back.

23:52

I go to work two days out of the week,

23:54

mainly because I need to go to the office

23:56

and get away from that lady for a couple of days, right?

23:58

I love my mother and I'm gonna take care of her

24:00

because I am it for that, right?

24:03

But it hasn't been easy, right?

24:05

It hasn't been easy.

24:06

And I'm not gonna sit here and lie to you guys

24:08

and say I've always lovingly just taken care of my mom.

24:11

I haven't, it's been hard.

24:12

The good news is I have a sponsor

24:14

who has some similar issues with her mother

24:16

and she's ahead of me in that journey.

24:18

And so I get to look at her example

24:19

and I get to follow her example.

24:21

And so that's what my home life looks like today, right?

24:24

I was lucky enough to still keep that job at UCLA

24:27

and I'll have 24 years this November at UCLA

24:31

and I'm really lucky.

24:32

That's not, that's God's grace.

24:34

It's not something I deserve.

24:36

I was, you know, the one decision I made early on

24:39

when I got sober was this.

24:40

I didn't go to my boss and say,

24:42

hey, I have a chemical dependency problem.

24:44

I need to go to rehab.

24:45

I did not want that on the record for myself, for my career.

24:49

I knew that much.

24:50

So I really sweated out.

24:52

I did it the rough way.

24:54

I went to the marina center meeting at 6.30 every morning

24:57

for my first 90 days.

24:58

And then I did seven meetings at night, all Pacific group.

25:01

And that's how I got sober in my first 90 days of sobriety.

25:04

It wasn't easy, you know,

25:05

I'm not saying I'm better than anybody.

25:07

If I could have went to rehab,

25:08

you can trust and believe I would have went to rehab.

25:10

I think that would have just been a really great way

25:12

to get sober.

25:13

It was rough, right?

25:15

But because that was such a rough way,

25:17

I never want to do that again.

25:18

I remember it like it was yesterday

25:20

and I'm almost 17 years.

25:21

And I remember that like it was yesterday.

25:23

I don't, I don't want to,

25:24

I don't want to start that process all over again.

25:26

So I still have a great job.

25:27

Man, you know, oddly enough,

25:29

when you start to show up for work

25:30

and you really do your job and you're not hung over,

25:32

you start to make raises and you get, you know, promoted.

25:36

And I have a really great position

25:37

and I'm super happy at my job.

25:39

And, you know, I just feel blessed.

25:41

I definitely don't feel like it's something I deserve.

25:43

I definitely feel like I got really lucky

25:45

in the process of the way things happen.

25:47

You know, I talked a little bit about the gentleman

25:49

that I was with when I got sober.

25:50

His name is Neil and what happened for him.

25:53

I talked a little bit about his story.

25:55

We were friends, you know,

25:57

thank God that my sponsor taught me

25:58

we don't shoot our wounded, right?

26:00

She says, people are going to be in and out

26:01

and we don't shoot our wounded.

26:02

We just welcome people back and that's it, right?

26:05

And he was a wounded, he was wounded.

26:07

And he really struggled.

26:08

He picked up a heroin addiction along with his drinking

26:12

and he would try to use heroin to get off the alcohol

26:15

then alcohol to get off the heroin.

26:16

It was just this vicious cycle that he was in.

26:18

And he would call me when he'd be at his worst

26:20

and I would always take his call

26:22

and I'd pick him up and bring him to some of my meetings.

26:24

He knew some of the people I went to meetings with

26:25

and he would stay for maybe,

26:27

I don't know if he could get 30 days,

26:28

but he would be in and out, in and out.

26:30

And somewhere when I was about five years sober, you know,

26:32

he was starting to show end stages of our disease

26:34

and it's pretty ugly and it's a rough way to die.

26:37

And he had called me, it was a Friday evening.

26:40

I had been on my way home from work and he called me

26:43

and he said, I just got out of the hospital

26:45

for pancreatitis again.

26:46

And you know, I'm gonna go to the Marina Center.

26:48

I said, hey, I'll meet you at the Marina Center.

26:50

I got time, I'm right by there right now.

26:51

He goes, no, Grace, I take it up enough of your time.

26:54

Because I used to take his calls

26:55

and he was a real self pity kind of guy

26:57

and I would never put up with it.

26:58

I was like, look, he would be complaining about his family

27:00

not wanting to watch him die, right?

27:03

Like he, you know, his family would kick him out

27:05

and say, we can't do this anymore.

27:06

And I would tell him, they have every right

27:08

not to watch you die.

27:09

Your oldest daughter doesn't wanna talk to you

27:10

because she doesn't wanna watch you die.

27:12

You know, I would just tell him the way it is

27:14

'cause I was getting recovery, right?

27:16

So he goes, no, I've taken up enough of your time.

27:18

And I said, no, I'll meet you down.

27:19

He goes, no, it's okay.

27:20

And I said, all right, but I love you.

27:21

Let me know how the weekend goes for you

27:23

and give me a call on Monday, right?

27:25

Well, the phone call I got on Monday was his daughter.

27:27

And she said, you need to come to the hospital.

27:29

We're gonna take dad off life support.

27:30

So you need to come down here so you can say goodbye.

27:33

You know, I've had a lot of deaths in my sobriety.

27:34

I lost my cousin that I was super close to in my first year.

27:37

And I learned, I learned the importance

27:38

of being able to make that phone call to your sponsor

27:40

because when my cousin died,

27:42

we were at the Memorial service,

27:43

everybody went to the bar to get a beer.

27:45

I wanted to go to the bar and get a beer

27:46

'cause I know what a beer will do for me.

27:47

I know what six beers will do for me.

27:49

But I called my sponsor because I had had a year of training

27:52

to call my sponsor no matter what.

27:53

And then not too long after that, I lost my grandmother

27:56

and I was super close to her.

27:57

And she used to send me cards,

27:58

cheering me on for my anniversaries.

28:00

And every time I got a chip

28:01

and she was my biggest supporter, right?

28:04

Now it was a big loss.

28:05

And I lost a couple of friends in sobriety.

28:07

And I kept thinking, why is God doing this to me?

28:10

My sponsor said, God's not doing this to you,

28:13

but God's allowing you to be a tool

28:14

so other people can see that you can stay sober

28:16

through this amount of grief, right?

28:18

So by the time we got to this point with Neil,

28:20

I wanna say this was the hardest death I had suffered

28:22

in the five years I had been sober

28:24

because I didn't understand why God felt the grace

28:27

to allow me to be sober and why he could not get sober.

28:30

I knew that he didn't have to die.

28:32

He could have gotten sober.

28:34

So it felt horrible to watch him die.

28:36

He was bleeding out from every orifice.

28:38

It's just a horrible way to see somebody die.

28:40

But I got to be there and I got to be there

28:42

with his ex-wife and his two daughters.

28:44

His ex-wife, we always had a contentious relationship.

28:47

But that day we were together and we came together

28:50

and we sat there with that man

28:51

and watched him take his last breath.

28:53

I talk about Neil's death

28:54

because I don't ever want his death to be in vain.

28:56

I want anybody out here who's an alcoholic

28:58

to understand it is a rough way to go.

29:00

That is our journey if we continue drinking.

29:03

And I know that would be my journey

29:05

and I'll forever be grateful

29:07

that I fell into Alcoholics Anonymous,

29:09

that I think that miracle thing happened for me,

29:11

that I was desperate, willing all at the same time.

29:13

And I took that step through that little crack

29:15

in the window that they talk about.

29:17

And I fell into Alcoholics Anonymous.

29:19

Tonight I get to go home.

29:20

I get to be with my mom.

29:21

I get to be a loving daughter.

29:22

I get to go to work on Monday.

29:23

I get to do my job.

29:25

And I say, I get to do my job.

29:26

I don't always feel grateful to have that job

29:28

but I get to do that.

29:29

I'll take a phone call from my sponsor

29:30

at 6.30 in the morning.

29:31

I'll call my sponsor at 6.45

29:33

and that's gonna be my life.

29:34

I'll forever be grateful for Alcoholics Anonymous

29:36

and people like you guys.

29:37

So thanks for letting me share.