Honesty, Lies, and the Path to Sobriety
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Honesty, Lies, and the Path to Sobriety

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A candid reflection on how chronic dishonesty shaped a young person’s descent into alcoholism and how embracing honesty became the cornerstone of a five‑year sober journey. The speaker explores family influences, early coping mechanisms, and the transformative power of Alcoholics Anonymous.

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it's a nice topic I like the idea of having a topic to speak on and and

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honesty has been very important in my in my life my journey and sobriety my

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sobriety date is July 8 2017 so I just got five years earlier this summer and I

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can a speaking of honesty I can honestly say that getting sober and participating

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in alcoholics anonymous was the best decision I ever made not not that I had

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a ton of choice in the matter yeah because I had run out of other ways to

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live I had done everything I could to avoid getting sober to avoid alcoholics

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anonymous because I wanted to keep doing everything my way really didn't work

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really didn't work and I'm just really lucky that I didn't die or get

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imprisoned before before I could give up give up control and and be honest with

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myself and come into alcoholics anonymous and give this a serious try I

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since I don't know I know a few of you but there's many of you I don't know

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I'll qualify a bit I was born in Los Angeles and born into a nice family

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everything would would have been normal you know but everyone's got something in

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their life not that any of this makes me an alcoholic I just say this so that if

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any alcoholics have been through the same type of family upbringing that that

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I we can relate probably have similar similar issues but my my father when I

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was born was very sick so growing up from a young age that colored my

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perception of what reality was I became a very pessimistic child very dark like

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there is no meaning to all this we're all just gonna die in pain and you know

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why bother as it was it was very strange to hear that from a five and six year

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old but that that was me and you know that interestingly enough on the topic

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of honesty you know I hear a lot in the rooms that the alcoholic behavior didn't

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begin with alcohol alcohol was just the most effective thing to latch on to the

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most effective of the our failed solutions but I had many for that and

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the one that I can remember most vividly was lying I my mother told me in

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preschool and if I got in one more fight I couldn't watch Teenage Mutant Ninja

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Girls which at the time was my favorite thing in the whole world and I went to

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school with every intention of not getting in another fight every intention

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and I did and when I got home my mom asked me if I'd been in a fight and

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something clicked I was for something clicked in my head she doesn't know she

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doesn't know I can say I didn't she might never know so I did I did and it

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worked and it turns out I have I would I'd like to say had but I'm sure it's

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still there I have a natural talent for lying and that is because I will believe

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it I will believe it there's sometimes I think you could have put me on a on a

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polygraph and I would have believed it because I'm not only being dishonest

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with you I'm being dishonest with myself and that comes into play in my

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alcoholism and in my sobriety later well I'll circle back around to that um but

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so that that was how it started it was it was lying it was overachievement it

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was video games it was sports anything I could throw myself into to feel better

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about myself because I have you know that low self-esteem and the big ego I

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think I'm either the best or the worst or both simultaneously like I'm the best

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but they're treating me like the worst maybe I'm the worst I don't know it's

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complicated in there um and then you know by this point my father had long

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since passed and my mom was doing a good job like objectively raising me but she

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was dealing with a lot of grief she had developed a problem of her own like a an

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alcoholic type problem of her own and no one really knew that and so looking back

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there were some things that were just not not great and there is a family

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history of alcoholism and in my family you know I didn't realize that people

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didn't drink whiskey by the coffee mug because that's that's how people did it

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in my family like a shot was a was a coffee mug it's like eight ounces it's

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like eight shot but that was my my perspective of like that's normal like

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my 80 pound grandmother you can drink that that's that's what a normal person

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drinks come to find out that's not that's not true but at some point I I

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was introduced to alcohol and a bunch of other things that I use alcoholically

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but you know alcoholics anonymous keep it keep it on topic and man it was it

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was great everyone in a has that moment with at a point in time we thought

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alcohol was it we thought alcohol would do for us everything that we always want

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it it would enable us to do everything we never thought we could it made me

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confident it made me outgoing it gave me a sense of ease I didn't feel that the

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world was like a harsh unfair place when I was drinking I was able to and I was

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able to connect with other people I didn't have to worry about the low self

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esteem in the high ego you know you have a couple drinks we're all just friends

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you know I was good good friends and it was fun at first you know as it as it

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often is the the saying is it's it's fun and then it's fun with problems and that

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it's just problems and I went through those stages really quickly because I'm

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an all-in type person when I find something that is my solution you know I

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have an all-time problem I need an all the time solution you know my my my

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alcoholism didn't take any time off I didn't have any hours of reprieve in the

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day so I needed alcohol at all times and you know the consequences came pretty

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quickly I I essentially dropped out of school never graduated high school as a

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matter of fact started getting arrested as soon as I turned 18 nothing serious

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thank God because I was always really good at chickening out when it when it

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came time for really bad stuff to happen you know I was I was around for the

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shenanigans and then I would just be like all right guys time I I have a

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thing I would leave before before more serious stuff started happening most of

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the time or any of the times it mattered and I it just progressed like that and

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then so I started using alcohol to change the way I felt inside when I was

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about 12 I didn't get sober until I was five days before my 28 birthday and in

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the meantime I did not draw one sober breath wasn't always just alcohol I was

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a equal opportunity offender but I was never sober in that time never not for

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one second so at the time I got sober my alcoholic life was literally most of

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what I had known most of the time I'd spent on this planet I've been under the

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influence and the time that I wasn't I was wishing that I was you know like

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before that they I've heard the joke for you know I just needed a drink from the

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time I was two in time I gained consciousness I needed to drink so that

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was my whole perspective on like what life was uh and before I got sober what

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the incident that got me sober I I thought or I should say I deluded myself

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into thinking that I was gonna die the way my father did which is not

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necessarily true like what he had was rare and it's not necessarily genetic I

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also didn't get tested for it anyway because I was like I already know I

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already know my tragic story um and so I thought I was gonna die so I was like

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well if I'm gonna die by 30 I'm 28 like what's really the point here you can

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just run this out um and so for about five or six years it was like the movie

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Groundhog Day I lived the same day over and over again and I didn't like it but

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I didn't think that there was anything better and part of that is where the

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dishonesty comes into play I was I was lying to myself because hey I was saying

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that alcohol was not the problem that life was the problem that the world was

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the problem that x y & z was the problem that you were the problem wasn't the

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alcohol that was really dishonest that was delusional I was telling myself all

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these stories about why I couldn't do anything better I just wasn't capable I

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couldn't live without the alcohol didn't want to but I never actually tried so I

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was acting like I had exhausted all the options available to me but I hadn't and

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that kind of delusion kept me going for a long time I told myself that I didn't

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have a problem told myself that there wasn't a solution and I told myself that

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there wasn't anything worthwhile to gain from being sober those are all three

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were lies that I told myself it was my dishonesty in my active addiction and I

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had a girlfriend at the time and she couldn't take it anymore she said that

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she was gonna kill herself if we didn't try and do something and as much as I

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hated the way I was living I knew it would be worse if I was alone so I was I

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said we can go to treatment I had no intention of saying so I was just trying

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to buy a little more time so I went and that's when that's when the miracle

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started happening was I I went and it was it was really tough you know

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physically and emotionally it was really tough that I think we all we fucking

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vouch for that those first few hours those first few days is you know really

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as bad as as bad as a human being can feel I remember so vividly that I had

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every reason to want to give up I didn't even go in telling myself that I was

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gonna stay sober but after I had a day I was like I can do a little more I can do

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a little more and that was being honest with myself you know I could take it a

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little longer and that I said that over and over again now I'm still very

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stubborn so I didn't do what was advised to me I did a few days in a treatment

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center and then just decided to go home no no plan no anything no sponsor no

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network no it anything and I was also bringing it back to the topic very

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dishonest cuz I don't know what exactly I was telling myself back then but it

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was I was definitely lying to myself if I said I got this I was lying to myself

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if I said you know I don't need a if I said I have a better idea like all these

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things were total lies so it's by the grace of God that I made it through that

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period where I was still unwilling to take any help take any direction but

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thankfully that didn't that period didn't last very long so when I got out

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I remember I remember that the one one thing that I I think I had felt my entire

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life was a kind of shame for one thing or another it was shame for all the lies

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I was telling as a kid it was a shame for all the things I was hiding it was a

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shame for all the lies I was telling myself was shame for all that potential

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that I wasted it was shame for all all the times I drank when I said I wouldn't

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you know that was that was the most that was what I remember the most about the

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last years in my alcoholism was I was taking one drink just to wash away the

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shame the last one that was all I was doing that's a never-ending cycle never

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goes away um but I remember when I got sober I would close my eyes at night and

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I didn't feel that because I was the first time I could remember not feeling

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ashamed of myself and what I'd done that day now I wasn't exactly proud of myself

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either I didn't have any reason yet to feel that emotion but just the no shame

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was enough to keep me around for a little while and eventually I made a

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smart decision and I had some friends who were doing AA and I I decided you

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know what can it hurt and step one I think I mean honesty runs through all

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the steps but step one I think is the most honesty is the most important

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component of step one because if you're admitting to yourself that you've become

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powerless you know you are admitting that you are an alcoholic essential and

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alcoholics don't want to do that I don't know why that is there's such an

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interesting phenomenon of this disease you never see a cancer patient who's

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like no definitely not not me I wouldn't have cancer definitely not scan lies

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because all the objective evidence is there you look at any one of our

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personal stories anyone who knew us at the time would be like oh absolutely

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absolutely you were an alcoholic no one else was no one else was unsure how were

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we and that is important because once you admit that you're an alcoholic then

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you put yourself in the position to take the steps the 12 steps and and just in

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general you take action to treat the disease you know imagine if if you did

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have cancer and you said I don't then you wouldn't do chemo then you wouldn't

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do this then you wouldn't do any of this stuff and then the disease would win the

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same thing with alcoholics anonymous if you lie to yourself tell yourself that

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you don't have it or that you don't need treatment you won't do it and the

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disease wins and what I think is even more important than being honest with

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yourself the first time because I think that honesty can be gradual for some

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people like I don't remember that I fully grasp the magnitude and fully

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believed that I was an alcoholic and that I was one of you and that these

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steps were for me um yeah when I took that step I came to believe it the

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longer I stuck around the more steps that work but it's even more important

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as you stay sober because you know you work the steps in order but you can kind

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of work them backwards too you know you stop being of service stop praying and

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meditating stop taking daily inventory building up little resentments start you

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know taking actions that you're gonna have to make amends for but you don't

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you know your character defects all come up you know and you're just a ball of

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resentments and you lose your connection with God and then eventually you're drunk

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again but that last step the first step is also like the emergency break on on

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your program because I've never met anyone who went back out who didn't tell

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themselves some kind of lie I'm not an alcoholic it was a phase I can drink

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normally I won't I won't drink but I'm just gonna smoke pot or all these other

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things people tell themselves it'll be different this time just one more time

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no one's gonna know it's not gonna be a big deal you know I could go on ad

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nauseum you can there's a million lives people tell themselves and the people

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who are who stare stick around you know your friends we've all seen it with

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people who've gone out and are like oh man you know he's gonna regret that you

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know you know once because once you're once you're one of us there's no going

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back um and so as long as you keep that recognition that you are an alcoholic

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and you can't tell yourself those lies and tell yourself you don't have this

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disease I've never seen anyone go out who has kept hold of that this just

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wouldn't make sense um I guess I'm about about done with my time I hope I said

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something that that resonated with someone.