Celebrating Sobriety: Experience, Strength, and Hope from a Long‑Term AA Veteran
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Celebrating Sobriety: Experience, Strength, and Hope from a Long‑Term AA Veteran

Episode description

A seasoned member reflects on over 30 years of sobriety, sharing the joy and challenges of daily AA life, the power of sponsor and home‑group support, and the impact of losing a close AA brother. The talk blends enthusiasm for recovery with heartfelt remembrance, offering listeners encouragement to stay the course one day at a time.

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What's up Quality of Life, Vas, Alcoholic.

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So glad to be here with you guys tonight.

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Happy Saturday night.

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I wore this coat out of respect for Alcoholics Anonymous

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and this meeting, Quality of Life.

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I love that.

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And now I'm gonna take it off.

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All right, so I told Karen that, you know,

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this is gonna be the best damn Saturday night talk

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that you guys have heard all year, right?

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But you're not supposed to do that

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'cause you're not supposed to,

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you're supposed to over-deliver and under-promise.

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But, you know, at least I'll stop on time

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'cause this man right here is gonna light up the lights.

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I love it.

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I feel like I'm in the PG.

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Which is my home group, right?

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We got lights like this.

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I have been going to my home group in the,

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hey, what's up, Zoom?

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Right there.

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And I've been going to my home group

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since the first 30 days of this variety.

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And my variety day is January 23rd, 1990.

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And I've, I was sober over 30 years

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and I've spoken twice at my home group meeting.

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Once when I was 19 and the other one on my 25th birthday.

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So, and when you hear my talk, you realize,

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no wonder they didn't ask me to speak.

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You guys are so good.

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But I don't know what the hell I'm gonna say tonight

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other than I can guarantee you this.

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I'm gonna share my experience, strength and hope with you.

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And then I'm also gonna share the enthusiasm

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that I have for my sobriety.

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So I'm not gonna sit up here and be all maudlin

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and bitch and whine about whatever challenges I'm facing

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because this is life on life's terms.

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And we all have challenges that we're facing, right?

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What's nice about Alcoholics Anonymous

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is just one alcoholic talking to another.

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So that we can celebrate the good stuff going on in our lives

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and when our ass is falling off

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or we can barely hold on with both hands,

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we can help each other, right?

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And we have this unique bond, right?

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The book talks about it, well the 12 and 12 talks about it.

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If we grab onto this thing like a drowning man

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grabs onto the life reserve,

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we got a pretty damn good shot

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of staying sober one day at a time.

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And when we do that, it's been my experience

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that we're able to continue that our lives flourish

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and good things happen.

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And we suck it up during the hard times

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and we share our experience, strength and hope with others.

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And we get to keep it by giving it away, damn, right?

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What Dan said, he doesn't want to drink again.

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That's why he keeps telling me,

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he's a quality of life for my sponsor, right?

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Hell yeah, right?

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Home group and a sponsor

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'cause he doesn't want to go back out again.

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I don't want to go back out again.

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My life keeps getting bad.

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But what's easy is to be complacent

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and forget about our primary purpose

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which is staying sober one day at a time.

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If I can make sure that I stay sober,

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all the other shit seems to fall into place.

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What, whatever, is there like a, yeah, right?

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Sorry about the curse word there.

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But yeah, you know, it's funny.

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I've been like, there's so much,

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it's not enough time, people.

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What is this, an hour meeting?

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I mean, when you ask me to speak,

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it's gotta be at least an hour meeting, man,

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because it's like, I'm talking about me.

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I've got a lot of ears that I want to share with you guys.

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But again, it's that enthusiasm, right?

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I have a sponsor.

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I have a home group.

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I go to weekly meetings of alcoholics

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when my football team is winning,

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when my football team is not winning,

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when I got a promotion at work,

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when I did something and my wife is really pissed at me

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and it's very uncomfortable at home.

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By the way, I want to thank the two ladies

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for showing up here tonight.

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Good job.

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Break up all the test thoughts thrown in this room.

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Yeah, and Frank says hello, by the way, Elizabeth.

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I texted him, he's a good man.

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AA brother and so for long.

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And he's an AA brother and he's also class of 1990.

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We're all home.

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Everybody gets sober in a certain year we have banquets

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and we get together, it's a whole thing.

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Anyway, so PG works for me.

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That's why it's my home group.

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Okay, I don't know what the hell I'm saying tonight

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because I woke up at 3.30 this morning

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and I took about a 20 minute nap.

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And Karen doesn't know this,

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but I was going to ask one of my AA brothers

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who lives in the Valley like,

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"Dude, I'm doing a triathlon that morning."

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You know what I mean?

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And I said, yes, I would do it,

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but I forgot I had signed up for this triathlon

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that I've been training, continuously training for.

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And Randy's a good guy.

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He's got a better talk than mine.

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So you guys would have been better off with him.

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But that son of a bitch died two weeks ago.

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And yeah, really good friend.

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His service is on November 5th.

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A good man, AA brother.

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We went to the same Monday night men's staff

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for 22 years together.

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We carpooled to my sponsors meeting every other month.

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You know, my sponsors are meeting all the sponsors

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get together enough.

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You know, so we went to football games.

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We did so much together.

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His wife found him on the floor of his side of the bed

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on a Friday morning.

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Took him to St. Joe's.

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And a lot of AA brothers went Saturday night.

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I was at a football game,

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many of the same football games had Trojan fan.

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Outside issue, but we would go to Trojan games all the time.

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And we had, there's a big contingent of sober people

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going to tailgating.

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It was fantastic.

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Anyway, a lot of my AA brothers saw him

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at St. Joe's ICU Saturday night.

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I saw him midday Sunday.

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Sunday afternoon, they pulled the plug.

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And, but he was current.

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He was current with his wife, right?

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He was current with his family.

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He was a good member of Alcoholics Anonymous.

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And that's where you want to go, right?

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So couldn't ask him to speak.

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So I'm here tonight.

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So grew up in Los Angeles to a dentist

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and a concert pianist mother, just like Dan.

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You know, I know why you drank

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'cause your father left you.

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And I know why you drank

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'cause your mother beat the shit out of you.

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Like, that's right, damn it, two twice.

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The, my parents love me, man.

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And they probably love me too much.

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And they gave my brother and I everything that we needed

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for sure and most of what we wanted,

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which was problematic in Los Angeles growing up.

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But they're non-alcoholic.

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My brother's a heavy drinker.

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Definition in the big book, you know,

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definition of a heavy drinker.

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He's a stressed out attorney,

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really overweight on blood pressure meds.

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And he's, you know, hits a bottle all the time.

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But you know, hey man, it's, you know,

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the difference as it's described in the book, right?

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If the doctor says, hey man, you keep drinking,

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your liver's gonna blow up.

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Or the wife says, I'm gonna leave your ass.

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Or the law firm he's been working for,

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he said, you know, this is it, man.

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They typically stop, right?

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That's what a heavy drinker does, they stop.

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But seemingly you could be indistinguishable.

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Your behavior could be indistinguishable

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from a heavy drinker,

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but the alcohol just doesn't stop, right?

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That's us, right?

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We're, that's who we are, right?

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A liver going out, the wife leaving us, giving up the job.

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I like the effect produced by an uncle.

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You know, it's funny, Dan was like,

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hey man, I need to get sober on my 10 minute talk.

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Sometimes I don't even get to the drunk a lot.

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Sometimes I spend so much time talking about

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the irritability and restlessness and discontentedness

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I had years before I picked up a drink or a drink.

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What's that?

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What's that all about?

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Well, it's a living program.

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I mean, it's a living, it's a living problem, excuse me.

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And it's a program, it's a living problem, right?

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I haven't had a drink or a drug in a long time.

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What the hell am I doing in an alcoholic's office meeting?

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'Cause I have a problem living on life's terms, right?

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Got a busy head, tells me crazy shit.

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So, you know, it's not just a social lubricant, right?

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Anybody drinks, everyone drinks.

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Whatever they get, their inhibitions drop.

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They can enjoy themselves in a social situation,

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talked in the opposite sex or whatever.

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It's social lubrication, right?

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For us, it's not just social lubrication.

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It's a, we are like men who have lost their legs, right?

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It is a job, the feeling of a job well done.

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You guys have heard this, job well done

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without having done a job.

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I mean, that's powerful.

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That's not just being socially lubricated.

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That's a game changer.

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That's a perception.

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That's everything, right?

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Grew up in Hollywood, took these two parents,

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restless, irritable, and discontent,

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years before I drank and used,

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started using and drinking when I could.

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And yes, it was easier to get pot back then.

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So I did smoke a lot of pot.

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This is an apocalypse meeting.

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I'm an alcoholic, but I did a lot of drugs.

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I did a lot, that's my story.

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I enjoyed them tremendously, and they were easier to get.

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So when I used and drank,

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did I feel taller, smaller, faster?

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That felt just okay with me.

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That's huge, again, huge, right?

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So this thing that my parents warned me about,

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I was a good parent, I didn't want to drink and use drugs,

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and it didn't matter when I was in the tree house

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with the kids, and I didn't know if it was a oregano

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and a zigzag that was going around there,

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but I hit that thing.

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And then any other opportunity I had growing up

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in this amazing city of ours, I took that opportunity.

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And 759, there's so much to say.

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I'd smoke pot, and I'd talk to my friends

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and discuss the day's events in high school.

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And one of them said, "Vas, if you don't slow down,

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"you're gonna end up going to those meetings

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"where they hold hands and say the Lord's Prayer," right?

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What a trip, what a foreshadowing what was gonna come.

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Do you guys see the Lord's Prayer and hold hands in here?

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Yeah, so he could see it.

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I was on this path.

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My story is not one of a functional alcoholic.

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It was like I convinced my parents that I needed

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to go to boarding school, right?

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That was it.

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I needed to leave Los Angeles and needed to leave

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this loving home that they were providing for my brother.

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I needed to go to Colorado because it's a geographic, right?

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'Cause most people, if they change their circumstances,

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their physical circumstances, they can startle.

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It's easier to startle, and it works, just not for us, right?

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'Cause we bring ourselves with us, right?

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So it's amazing, looking back on the Geographics, right?

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I mean, it's just like, wow.

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If you had told me then I wouldn't have listened

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because it just wasn't, you know what I mean?

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I was always a 50-yard man in a 100-yard race, right?

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Life was a series of 100-yard races,

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but I only had 50 in me, right?

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So because I couldn't take the contrary action

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and finish the 100, I just pull off.

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Sometimes I start really fast.

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It didn't matter.

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For one reason or another, I couldn't finish the damn race.

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Whatever it is, this is metaphorically, right?

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A race is a relationship.

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A race is an opportunity to go to Colorado

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and go to boarding school.

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Didn't matter what it is, a job, a friendship, a hobby.

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I can never finish what I started, right?

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So my life, even relatively young,

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was just a series of burned bridges

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and unfinished business, right?

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Love all the cliches in the program, right?

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I mean, there's like,

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if you listen for the similarities,

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the language of the heart,

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when people talk about getting sober's like,

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driving a station wagon or throwing all this stuff

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in the back of the station wagon,

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and you slam on the brakes and all this stuff,

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you guys didn't know that.

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More props for not saying that.

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Yeah, there is one.

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You know, it hits you all in the head, you know what I mean?

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That's why it's so dangerous when you're newly sober.

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Like, keep it simple, keep it simple.

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Keep your head where your feet are, right?

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Don't worry about all that stuff, you know what I mean?

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Coming down on you.

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'Cause typically people don't walk in alcohol to almost go,

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"Damn, it's a beautiful day.

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"I think I'm gonna check this thing out."

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Or become more spiritual.

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Give back.

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No, it's because we, you know what I mean?

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I remember, I remember coming home

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from boarding school Christmas of '85,

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and my mother was always good in her emergency,

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and she was at church in San Marino,

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and there was this bus where all these kids came on.

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They had hospital wristbands.

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From my very first meeting,

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I heard the language of the Holocaust.

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I heard the magic of the Holocaust.

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I really did.

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I'm like, "Okay, so this is the..."

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I knew I had a problem.

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I just didn't know what the hell my problem was.

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Again, restless, irritable, and discontented.

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Years.

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I mean, earliest memories.

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Didn't matter.

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You couldn't love me enough.

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It was just, you know, there was always a problem.

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Complete lack of gratitude.

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Complete self-obsessions today, right?

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Made my day is up.

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That's why it's so I can pick up on it today.

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Again, my sobriety day is January 23rd, 1990.

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What am I doing here with you?

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I'm here sharing my experience, strength, and hope,

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'cause like Dan, I wanna stay here.

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I wanna stay here, 'cause my life keeps getting better.

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Jumping all over the place.

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Okay, so in that meeting in San Marino,

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so be it, right?

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In fact, it was funny.

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I've never went back to that boarding school.

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My parents were like, no way in hell

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are you going back to that place?

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And it was funny.

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There were so many kids using and drinking,

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and there was three-two beer.

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Anybody know what three-two beer is?

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You guys, half the amount of alcohol,

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and you can get it when you're 18 and cold.

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So you're just, you know, you're bloated as hell,

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and you have to drink twice as much.

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The, smoked a lot of pot.

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It was one of these boarding schools

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where you could sign this slip

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and go skiing on the weekend or whatever,

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and your parents would just pay the bills,

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feel sorry for me.

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What I chose to do, smoke a lot of pot

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and just like drool on myself in the dorms.

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You know what I mean?

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I wanted a check-out.

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I just, you know what I mean?

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And took a lot of, I was talking to somebody about it,

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and I said, okay, that's great, but that's all right.

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You know, I mean, it, anything to get me out of me.

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So these kids were going off the deep end

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in this boarding school.

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And they had this drug and alcohol counselor come in,

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'cause all these kids were being sent to rehab,

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you know what I mean?

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Like, you, you, you.

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And he came in and talked about alcohol cannabis.

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So this guy, Bill and Bob, you know what I mean?

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And I was given an assignment,

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'cause he kind of made me saw something in me,

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like this drug and alcohol counselor.

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You know how we can pick each other out, you know what I mean?

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But he's like, he gave me some assignment,

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like, you know, tell me about the founding of alcohol.

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So I'm gonna miss my next week when I come back.

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Of course, did I do the assignment?

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Of course I didn't do the assignment, you know what I mean?

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So if I had gone back to that,

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if I, my mother had come out for parents' week

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and I had managed to get arrested

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with the headmaster's son, fantastic, you know what I mean?

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Then she's back on the plane to Los Angeles.

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My dad's busy working, paying the bills.

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You know, wide-eyed, like what the hell is going on?

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So when I came home for Christmas,

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making a fool out of myself, right?

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Going to all those holiday parties, you know,

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loaded and embarrassing my family.

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And, you know, we were like tornadoes

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through the lives of those who love us.

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We can't even see it, right?

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We got cancer?

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You're not a tornado through the lives of people who love you.

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But this disease you are.

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We're gonna take everybody out, you know?

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It's like cunning, baffling, harmful, and disastrous.

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So grateful for sobriety, right?

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One day, it's okay.

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Christmas of '85, I went to my first meeting.

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So my parents made this deal.

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I admitted myself into a rehab program

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on Fair Oaks in Pasadena Community Hospital.

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It was just locked down in the unit

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'cause I wasn't 18 at that time.

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Now, if I had said no,

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my mother, who was really good in emergencies, like I said,

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would have gotten one of those rent cops

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and thrown my ass in there.

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But listen, at that point, it was like white flag, man.

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You know, is this it?

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Fine, fine.

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You know, like whatever the hell it is.

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I've tried other things.

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I've tried to be good.

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Do you think I, I went to boarding school

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so I could go to like, I'm gonna go to Colorado,

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embarrass my family,

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have them spend all this hard earned cash

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so I could just be a complete loser, lunatic kid.

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No, I want her to start, I want her to do better.

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It's gonna be different this time.

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I'm gonna finish that 100 New York race.

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So I didn't have the tools to do that, dude.

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I didn't have the tools to finish, you know what I mean?

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It was fascinating.

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Alcoholics anonymous gives me the tools, what concepts?

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Wherever the hell the steps are.

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Those are the tools and the traditions.

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Thank God for the traditions, thank God.

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Or people like me would rip this place apart, right?

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I was raised with the idea of the rugged individual.

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My dad's like a rugged individual, you know what I mean?

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Screw the group, you know?

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If you take care of yourself, the only profit is,

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any one of us is not more important

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than the group of alcoholics anonymous

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because for this thing to stay here,

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you know, the group, you know what I mean?

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I need you more than you need me.

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Just my little tangent on the traditions, right?

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Ah, thank God, thank God for those traditions.

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The new secretary of your job is to uphold the traditions

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of this meeting, right?

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So we can stay here and say so and move the steps.

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So the tools, right?

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I didn't have the tools to finish the next 50 yards

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or however many damn yards I needed to finish

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when I just couldn't finish the race.

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So my parents would come visit, the rehab,

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Tuesdays and Saturdays, whatever.

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This was in the mid 80s.

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You know, now everybody gets an MRI.

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You step your toe, you get an MRI.

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My mom's like, my kid's got brain damage,

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you know what I mean?

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So I kept getting an MRI in the mid 80s.

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I'm like, no, let's get an MRI.

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'Cause I couldn't put a sentence together.

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I was so scrambled.

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I was like, I didn't know what end was up

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and I couldn't find my ass, my backside with both hands.

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And I remember getting an MRI.

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And she walked me back to my dorm room

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in Pasadena Community Hospital.

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And I said, "Mom, I'm all effed up."

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And she looked at me in a way that only a mother

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looks at his son.

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And it was this look of like,

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there's something wrong with you, kid.

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And you're the problem all like wrapped up into one, right?

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And she put her hands on my shoulders

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and she looked me in the eye and she said,

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"Son, we're gonna un-eff you," right?

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I'll never forget that, right?

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That was '85, Christmas, Pasadena Community Hospital.

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That was my first meeting of Alcoholics Anonymous.

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My sobriety day is January 23rd, 1990, right?

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Where I got to my home group the first 30 days

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of this current sobriety.

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My experience in Alcoholics Anonymous,

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one day at a time is a year's accumulate, right?

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And I stay sober and keep marching along,

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and trudging the road with you people.

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It's been a process of un-effing myself, right?

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Let's do it together.

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Let's un-eff each other.

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We can help each other.

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We can do that, right?

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One alcoholic talking to another.

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It's like, "All right, you know, let me go to church.

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My boys are altar boys."

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It's got, no one's even going to church anymore.

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Church is fantastic.

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My program and the maintenance of my spiritual condition

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with my higher power is rooted in Alcoholics Anonymous.

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Going to church is fantastic.

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My wife's not an alcoholic.

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Trying to raise my kids in a good way.

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The God of my understanding, I found here.

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And just like it was read tonight by Elizabeth,

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that we pray for the knowledge of his will for us

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and the power to carry that out.

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Let's keep it simple, people, right?

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Like, in the morning, help me.

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And in the evening, thank you.

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And magical things happen.

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Like I pay my taxes and be a good worker among workers.

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And instead of embarrassing that family that loved me,

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now a family member among family members.

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Okay, the hell times ain't mean enough.

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That woman who said, "We're going to un-F you,"

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died February 1st, 2022.

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And you hear it from the podium all the time,

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that I was able to be there.

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What a gift of sobriety.

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I was able to be there for my mother and my father

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upon her passing.

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I was there that day, right?

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I was current with her.

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I had made a living amends to that woman who was alive.

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It just, she was proud of me.

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Oh, hold it together.

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The, that's Alcoholics Anonymous.

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You know, my brother's an attorney, non-alcoholic.

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Who's the executor of the estate?

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This guy right here, this guy.

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Why?

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Because I'm so fantastic and, you know,

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intelligent and good looking.

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It's because of the principles of Alcoholics Anonymous

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working in my life.

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My family sees it, right?

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They see it.

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So just like my buddy who died

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was current with his wife and his family.

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When my mother passed, you know, I was there for her.

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I was there prior to her passing, you know what I mean?

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So it's kind of a interesting thing.

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You know, I've heard it for years in the podium.

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And I'm so glad that that happened to me,

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that that was my experience as well.

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And listen, if we stay sober long enough,

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these good things happen to all of us, right?

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We can be of service to our families

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and to the people at work

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and maybe letting somebody cut in front of us

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in the freeway.

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These two alcoholic parents,

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I'm still married, my dad's still alive, 94.

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My father doesn't need to come

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to Alcoholics Anonymous meetings to take contrary action.

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I do.

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My contrary action is doing things that we don't want to do.

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Imagine that, like I'm not a child.

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I'm a man, right, who takes contrary action

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with the help of the 12 steps of the program

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and a sponsor and people like you in rooms like this.

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Contrary action.

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My sponsor always preaches it.

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You know, it's we don't care what you think

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or how you feel and just what action did you take?

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Especially when you're uncomfortable

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and you don't want to take an action.

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You know, again, my father doesn't need Alcoholics Anonymous.

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All right, I do, fine.

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And I'm gonna stay here just like Dan

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because I need the tools of the program

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to help me take contrary action.

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And ultimately, contrary action is gonna help me finish

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that 100 yard race and I'm gonna grow up slowly over it.

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Slowly in Alcoholics Anonymous, right?

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So un-F-ing myself means growing up here

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and growing up here is taking contrary action

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and finishing one race at a time

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and building a life here, a life worth living.

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There's this place called Quality of Life, damn right.

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I don't need to be someone who lives a life

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of quiet desperation.

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You've seen those people out there.

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Do they have what you want?

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Hell no.

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We've got this opportunity of these amazing lives.

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Look at the crap, whether you like motorcycle racing

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or going to the opera or whatever it is, you're jammed.

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You can find other people doing it so good

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in meetings of Alcoholics Anonymous, right?

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There are people that have gone before,

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ahead of us where we can, the old timers, right?

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And not just the old timers,

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but not just people who have been sober a while,

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but the people who have been putting this thing

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into practice and their life is flourishing, right?

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We know who is alive.

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Listen, at any point in time, if I stop working the steps,

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I get squirrely, my back's up against the wall,

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I'm in a lot of pain.

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I've got a low threshold for pain.

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It doesn't sound very manly, right?

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You know how it is.

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Like these new people come in here and they're like,

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"How are you doing?"

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"Oh, I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine."

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The next thing you know, they're loaded, right?

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I'm not fine.

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The pain of my actions,

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when I'm not taking appropriate actions,

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are so acutely felt by me

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that I get so fricking uncomfortable

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that it keeps me close to Alcoholics Anonymous,

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keeps me in the sentence.

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I want to get picked off, right?

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I love the analogies in Alcoholics Anonymous.

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I love them.

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None of them remind.

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Your boat is not tied to the dock.

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In calm waters, it pretty much stays there, right?

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In the marina, when I have a little, you know,

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rough waters and that boat ain't tied to the dock,

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it's out to sea, just like that.

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So I keep my boat tied to the dock of Alcoholics Anonymous.

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Right?

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I mean, you know,

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that's because the pain of my poor behavior

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is acutely painful and I don't want to drink and use again.

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So I've got to make amends.

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I've been working for this company since 2010.

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It's a large national senior living.

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So I'm a director of sales, right?

21:34

Surprised, sales, good at it.

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You know, I've been sober and I win all these awards, right?

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Like, I won awards.

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I was a drug rep for a drug company for years in sobriety.

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Won awards.

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Because again, why?

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Because I'm so great and I'm good looking and intelligent.

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Oh, because I do what we do around here, right?

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I have commitment.

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I have commitments at my meetings.

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I show up.

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I try to help others.

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And when you do that in sales,

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it's all about being of service.

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It's amazing, simple.

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I let my ego get in the way.

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There was this woman who took issue

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with signing one of our leases.

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And instead of, I let my ego, right?

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January 23rd, 1990, right?

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Listen, if you follow me around with a GoPro,

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do you think that guy's got like, you know,

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shit, 33 years sober?

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Sometimes I act like a jerk.

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I was going to say a different one.

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Ask my wife.

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I can be very self-centered even in sobriety, right?

22:25

So I got into it with this customer.

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Customer is always right, even when they're wrong.

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You guys know that, right?

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It's a principle of alcoholics.

22:32

Oh, you know, so like I stood my ground.

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I couldn't stop myself.

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And she didn't want to sign the lease.

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And there was a responsible party clause.

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And I said, what do you want me to do?

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Sign your, what do you want me to be

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the responsible party for you?

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And she's like, my attorney said, I don't need to sign it.

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And I said, I said, well, maybe your attorney

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should be the responsible party of the lease.

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You know, I shouldn't have done that.

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So I was really into the sale.

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It went to hell.

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I ruined it.

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You know, it was on me.

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Walked into my boss's office.

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It was on me.

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And it's funny, I talked to a bunch of sober men.

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One of them was like, dude, perhaps, why don't you just

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text her and apologize?

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Well, there is a concept, right?

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So I texted her.

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Texted her, I apologize for upsetting you on the phone.

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You know, text, you know, whatever.

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You know, the communication from this morning

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never heard back from her, right?

23:18

It doesn't matter.

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I knew I wasn't going to hear it.

23:20

There was a high probability that I wasn't going to hear back

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from this woman, right?

23:23

Well, what did I do?

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I took the contrary action.

23:25

I apologized for my actions, right?

23:27

And I said, listen, whether you move forward with this or not,

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I want to apologize.

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And I wish you well.

23:32

Wow.

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One dude I called who's sober.

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And I didn't even think to do that.

23:35

But I did it.

23:36

And I took a screenshot of the text.

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And I sent it to him.

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I had to make sure that he knew, like, thanks, bro.

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I needed that.

23:42

I needed that.

23:42

OK.

23:43

I went to this fancy school when I was a kid.

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Over here in Sherman, it was called Buckley.

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Then you wore, like, ties and blazers.

23:50

Every year, they had this thing called Field Day.

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Most kids loved it because it was like,

23:55

you got to play outside and free dress.

23:57

And the culmination of this Field Day

23:59

was a 4.40 race on the track.

24:01

4.40 means one lap around, right?

24:03

One lap.

24:03

I hated that damn thing.

24:04

So this whole 50-yard thing.

24:06

You know, I only got 50 yards.

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And a 100-yard race isn't just figurative.

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It's literal.

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So damn it, I had to start this race.

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And I would start fast.

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And I had my heart in it.

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And I was like, damn it.

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I never quite finished.

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I could pull off.

24:22

So it's funny how years in a sobriety,

24:25

you look back on things, and I ran my first 10K

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in my first or second year of sobriety

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with two guys from my home group that have long since blown out.

24:34

No idea if they're--

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I hope they're still with us.

24:36

They're going to meetings elsewhere.

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They're probably not, right?

24:39

You don't stand to me.

24:40

We're the lucky ones because we're in a meeting tonight.

24:42

So first 10K, like, dude, 30 years ago.

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Why did I wake up at 3.30 this morning?

24:47

Why have I done anything?

24:48

I took a 20-minute nap and probably

24:50

didn't make much sense tonight because I

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did a triathlon this morning.

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So crazy weather.

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It was raining through the whole--

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so it was a swim, bike, and run.

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The wife and the kids were there to support me.

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It was awesome.

25:02

My fourth grader missed this soccer game.

25:04

They won.

25:05

So it was all right.

25:06

But to support me at this triathlon.

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And why do I tell you that?

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To brag.

25:10

Well, a little bit.

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What about, it's like, I did a triathlon this morning

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in the rain.

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You guys want to talk to me afterwards.

25:16

I can give you all the details of my times and stuff like that.

25:19

But I'm saying it because I finished the damn thing

25:24

this morning.

25:25

Sure as hell it wasn't first, not even in my age group.

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By the way, I turned 55 in July.

25:29

So I'm now in a new age group, 55 to 60.

25:33

So I'm like the youngest in my age group, which is bitching.

25:36

I'm like, you know what I mean?

25:37

I'm going to kick ass now in this age group.

25:39

But I finished, you know what I mean?

25:42

And I've been finishing a lot of races

25:46

because I've been here a long time.

25:48

This isn't, again, weekly meetings

25:51

of alcoholics on us with commitments.

25:53

So it doesn't matter whether I'm in a good mood, bad mood.

25:56

My team's one and not.

25:57

Did I?

25:57

Am I?

25:58

No, three minutes.

25:58

But it was like showing somebody how spiritual I was actually

26:02

finishing on time.

26:03

You know, what a blessing.

26:06

I've been given so much here.

26:07

I hope you find what I've found here.

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And I hope we can stay together one day at a time

26:14

and our lives will continue to get better.

26:16

And we'll be able to help others.

26:18

And I'm a good father sometimes.

26:22

I mean, yeah, lay down.

26:23

For the most part, I'm a good semi-decent husband, wife.

26:28

Some days are better than others.

26:30

I try to put the principles of the program--

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let me tell you something.

26:33

The hardest place to put the principles of the program

26:36

into work, into action, is in the home, right?

26:40

With my immediate family, like my father or my brother,

26:43

in my home, right?

26:45

It's easy to behave at work because who's

26:46

going to put up with all that BS?

26:48

No one's going to be in it.

26:49

So I'm more well behaved at work.

26:52

I'm really good in the meaning of alcohol exonamis, right?

26:54

I'm actually like a really great guy.

26:55

But I'm a little tired, hungry.

27:00

I can really act like a jerk because I'm human.

27:02

And we live life on life's terms.

27:06

And we get to take contrary action.

27:09

And we can grow up around here.

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And that's what it's all about.

27:14

And not necessarily for me, but I've

27:17

laughed more on alcohol exonamis than any other place, right?

27:20

Somebody tells me a joke, I don't think it's so funny.

27:21

But if somebody trips in the cafeteria

27:23

and hurts themselves, I think that's funny.

27:25

It's just a weird, sick sense of humor.

27:26

But I've laughed more here because I

27:28

listen to the similarities.

27:30

And it makes sense.

27:31

You are my people.

27:32

We can grab on that life preserver together.

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I want to thank you for helping me grow up here,

27:38

helping me un-F myself, and finish every race I start.