Tony's Journey: From a Chaotic Childhood to 23 Years of Sobriety
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Tony's Journey: From a Chaotic Childhood to 23 Years of Sobriety

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Tony shares how a turbulent upbringing with an abusive, drinking father and multiple step‑family dynamics set the stage for early substance use, violent relationships, and a low‑weight rehab stint. After confronting his denial, he achieved sobriety on June 2, 2003, now celebrating over two decades of recovery and helping a nephew facing alcoholism.

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Tony alcoholic. Uh, sobriety date is June 2nd, 2003.

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My sponsor is Michelle L and my home group is Bellflower big book group.

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Um, it's an honor and a privilege to be asked. Thank you, Ben,

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for asking me, texting me, reminding me all of it.

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It was amazing. Um, and thank you Adam for your 10 minutes. Let's see. Um,

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okay, so I'll start with, um, how I ended up getting here. Um, my dad, uh,

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married a woman with 11 kids when I was nine and there was three of us,

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my two oldest, older brother, younger brother, and,

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and then he marries and he marries this family that has 11 kids.

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So if that tells you anything, um,

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most normal drinkers don't marry a woman with 11 kids.

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So he obviously he had a heavy, heavy, heavy,

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heavy drinking problem. And, um, I love that family. As a matter of fact,

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um, I'm going to be going, um, back to New Mexico, um,

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this Thursday to go help a nephew that's struggling from alcoholism.

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So what happened is my dad married a woman with 11 kids.

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That's resentment number one,

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because he really loved that family and treated them like I got lost in the

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midst. So in other words, I'm like third to the youngest. Um,

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I lived with my grandmother most of, most of, um, my younger life.

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And it wasn't until I was maybe, I don't know,

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12 or 13 and I went to live with the Valdez family and

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my dad and, um,

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and my little brother stayed with them and my older brother had already been

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living there. Um, so I live with this family. There's nine girls,

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five boys. Um, we had one bathroom, um,

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and we lived the railroad tracks was right behind our house. So I got,

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I could sleep very well with a lot of noise if that tells you anything. Um,

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so I'm back in New Mexico.

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My dad kidnapped us from my mother, from my real mother.

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And that's why the three of us ended up in New Mexico with my dad and

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my mom lived here in California.

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So I'm living with the Valdez family and my dad's crazy. Um,

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he was a mailman and after he'd get off work at like three o'clock,

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he would go directly to the bar drink till five o'clock and then he'd come

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home and, um, have dinner and then he'd go lock himself in the bedroom.

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Um, and my stepmother would go with him.

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So we were kind of like free to do whatever we wanted. Um, I was the good kid,

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got straight A's, would show my dad the report card, hated government by the way.

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And so I got my very first D ever and I showed my dad my report card and he

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says, why don't you just get some more of those? And then for them then on,

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I never showed him my report card again and never cared about my grades again.

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Because if he didn't care, why should I care? And, um,

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although I did graduate from high school with very high scores,

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I ran away when I was 15 from Albuquerque to here to my real mother.

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And the reason for that is because we weren't allowed to have boyfriends till we

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were 16. My sister Barbara was six months older than I was.

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So she was 15. I was 15 and my dad pulled up next to the car.

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She was in the car with the boy and I was with her and his friend,

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but I didn't, I wasn't with the guy. I was just talking to him.

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And my dad pulled up next to the car and he said, get out.

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I took off running and he had a baseball bat and he hit that kid with a baseball

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bat and broke his arm. And I said, that's it. He's crazy. I'm out of here.

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And, um, I called my mom and my mom sent me an airplane ticket.

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My dad took me to the airport and he said, um,

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this is the best thing for you and I love you.

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And that was the first time my dad ever said, I love you.

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And I seek that validation until husband number three,

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if that tells you anything. So I move out here.

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My mom gave me permission to drink. She said, if you drink,

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you drink in this house.

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You don't drink outside this house until you're of age.

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And that takes the fun out of it. I don't know about you,

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but I like to be sneaky. So I was doing other, not drugs,

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but I was doing other stuff other than like I was sneaking out boys mainly.

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And, um, I got married, uh, let's see,

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I got married when I was 20. I married, um,

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I worked at a bank and I married the armor car driver. Um,

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and he was one of us and he drank alcoholically and I didn't drink.

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So I used to think, Oh, he loves me so much. He would stay,

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he would sit out in the parking lot and wait for me to get off work,

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drinking a six pack of beer. And I thought it's love. It's love.

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He wanted to follow me home. No, he didn't trust me.

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And he was worried because his other wife had cheated on him.

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So he followed me like a crazy man. And, um,

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that man hit me and I divorced him. I looked at him, I said,

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no man will ever hit me. And I said, you signed your divorce papers.

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And I left him and I meet husband number two and husband number two,

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um, was, uh, number one in the nation,

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jet ski racer traveled all over the place with him racing. Um,

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he, I'll just say it. He, he was into cocaine.

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I don't like sharing about that cause that wasn't my bottom,

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but I got involved in that.

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I checked into my very first rehab when I was 24 years old,

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weighing 79 pounds, completely addicted to cocaine.

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And I didn't realize it at the time, but they took me to an AA meeting and much

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like this. And the woman was up here and she was talking about doing drugs. And,

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and I thought I'm nothing like her. And she was, had kids. I have no kids.

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So I just couldn't relate because I'm not an alcoholic.

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That's what I told myself. I'm not an alcoholic, but the truth is,

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I didn't realize I was drinking every day to level out. Right. And so,

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um, and at weighing 79 pounds, you know, one drink and I'm legally drunk. So I,

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I didn't realize I was an alcoholic, but I left that rehab and I drank, um,

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I left that husband, um, like almost immediately. And, um,

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that man ended up committing suicide. Uh,

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I met husband number three now, mind you, I'm going to share this. Like,

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it sounds like I don't like him very much, but we've been married 32 years.

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We've been together 36. We were calculating it the other day. I said,

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we've been together a long time. And then I realized my son's 35.

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And so we've been together 36 years. Um, but I meet husband number three,

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we didn't get married right away.

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We had kids first because I don't want to get married because of the kids.

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And I'm still doing the drugs and drinking and he's a normie.

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And I drug that man through the dirt. I mean,

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I did stuff married women shouldn't do.

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I would leave him with the kids and go on vacation to Hawaii with my

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girlfriends. Um, I would, he was a good, I mean, I don't want to say was,

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he is a good man and I couldn't see it. And so,

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I'm, um, towards the end of my drinking. Um,

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if you're alcoholic, like I am, I could quit doing the drugs,

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but I could not quit drinking. And so towards the end of my drinking,

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I'm getting up at seven o'clock in the morning because that's when the liquor

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store is open. I'm telling my kids to get up, get ready for school. Um,

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my oldest son was 14. My youngest was at 12.

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Um, I'm telling them, get up, get ready for school.

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I'm going to go get some, uh, change for your lunch and a Coke.

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Cause I used to drink a Coke every day. Um,

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and so I get in my car and I would only make right-hand turns.

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Don't ask me why, but the liquor store was on outside my cul-de-sac.

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And so I would go to the corner and make a right-hand turn,

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get to the liquor store and make a right-hand turn, go in, get the alcohol.

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I drive out the parking lot, make a right because I didn't want to make a left.

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I was afraid I would kill, you know, getting an accident.

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So I'd make a right-hand turn, go to the next corner, right-hand turn,

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right-hand turn down my street. And then I pull in my driveway.

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And I did this every day for two years, two years.

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And I didn't just do that because I would get my kids in the car.

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I would take them legally drunk to school. So I would open the, you know,

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I'd go in, I'd get a Coke and,

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and the liquor store owner knew me and he would put the bottle next to my,

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my soda. And I couldn't, my head was saying, don't do it.

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You don't want to drink today. Don't do it. Don't do it.

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And I would watch my hand pay for it. And I had no clue why I was doing that.

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And so I would go and I'd open the bottle on the way to make my right-hand turn

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out the parking lot. And I would, I would down at the end of my drinking,

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trying to enjoy and control my drinking. I was drinking miniatures.

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So I would open one miniature, drink it, throw the bottle out the window,

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drive out the parking lot and go home, pick up my kids,

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have one in the center console. I drop off my kids at school.

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And then I would open the other one and then drive home.

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And now I'm legally really drunk. And so I would sit there and I'd start the,

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I'd get out the vacuum and then I would say, well,

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I can't really vacuum or clean without another bottle.

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So I would get in my car again and go to the next liquor store because I didn't

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want them to know I was drinking that way. I'd buy two more miniatures.

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I would go home. I wouldn't touch them. I'd go home. I'd be in my house.

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And then I couldn't remember if I vacuumed or if I didn't vacuum. So,

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but it was in the living room. So then I would go lie down. I would watch TV and,

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and I'd pass out, but I, you know, have another one before I'd pass out.

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And then when I'd wake up, I'd go, Oh my God, did I forget the kids from school?

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Did I need,

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do I need to get the kids and then my kids would end up walking home and I

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didn't want them to see me drunk. So I would get under my bed.

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I have a lot of shoes, so I couldn't hide in my closet. And, um,

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so I would, I would hide under my bed and they would say, well, where's mom?

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I mean, her car's here, but maybe she's over at the neighbors or whatever.

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And they were, they would quit looking for me. And then I would come out from it.

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I would hear them go out to play with their friends and I'd come out from

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underneath my bed and I would go to the next liquor store because I have to get,

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you know, or I would go to the first liquor store because now with time's passed

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and, and, you know, I know my husband's coming home and, and I'm thinking,

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Oh my God, he's going to come home. And, and I'm, you know,

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I'm already drunk and I thought, okay, if I make dinner, he won't notice.

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So I would start dinner and sometimes I start dinner too early and it would be

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burnt or I would, I couldn't even start it. It all depends.

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It was like playing Russian roulette,

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whether I was going to be upright when he came home.

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And this is my drinking every day for two years.

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And every day I would go to that liquor store and I'd wake up in the morning and

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I go, okay, Joanie, you can't drink today. You just can't drink.

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The jig is up because I started talking. Never do that. By the way,

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I started talking to my husband and saying, I think I'm drinking too much.

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And he said, no, you don't drink that much. And I go, you're right.

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So he was kind of my codependent or my, yeah, he co-signed my crap.

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And so what happened is he would say, you're right. And I'd say, okay, well,

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maybe I need to cut back and then I could do it. And then I couldn't do it.

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And then I called my mom and I said, mom,

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I'm seriously thinking I have a drinking problem. She goes, Joanie,

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you drive me to the Laker games, you know, we go and you only have one drink.

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And I'm thinking she's right.

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But I don't tell her that I'm drinking before I even get in my car before I even

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get to her house. Then I sneak and I go in the,

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in the forum club or the press press club and get drinks down there.

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And cause I have to go to the restroom and then, you know,

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so it's like the cycle that I was having telling myself I'm having a

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problem, but not listening to it. And I heard Adam say it,

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and I'm going to say this. Um,

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I was trying to control and enjoy my drinking,

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but there was no control and there was no enjoyment in the end.

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And what happened is my sister-in-law put herself in, um,

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nursing school and she came to me and she said, Joanie,

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I think you have a problem with alcohol. We're studying about it.

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And I thought you don't know anything about me. And now mind you, I mean,

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my husband's talking to her, telling her what I'm doing. She's,

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she's studying it.

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So obviously she knows that I have a problem and I'm not telling her the

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truth.

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And what happened is I get a phone call from my brother and my dad's dying from

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alcoholism on the streets of Albuquerque. And she's in the hospital.

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He weighed 98 pounds and he had pneumonia and he was dying.

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He was in like, what is it? Delirium tremors.

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Like he did, like he couldn't even communicate when I got home.

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I went, I walked into Alcoholics Anonymous myself. I had tripped,

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I had tripped, uh, and I don't know, I had the keys to my car in my hand.

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And I don't know if I was coming back or going,

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but I tripped and I kept this eye open and, um,

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I bled, I didn't go to the doctor. I didn't do anything.

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I just lied in my blood.

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And my husband came home and he was like, wow, this is bad.

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And so I walked into Alcoholics Anonymous and it's funny cause it's this month,

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October 7th, 2002. I walked in and I spoke to a woman.

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I spoke, I said, I'm having trouble with drinking.

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And this woman came up and gave me her number and I followed her for like two

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weeks. She said, meet me at this meeting. So I'd meet her at the meeting.

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And then, and then one meeting she didn't show up and on the way home I drank,

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I thought she's just fooling me. She doesn't go to a meeting all the time.

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You know, it was like my head was talking to me. And, um,

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so I drank and so I struggled in and out, in and out,

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but there was a couple of things I heard.

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One was keep coming back until you hear what you need to hear.

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And so I went over and over and over again. I mean,

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I could go to a meeting every day, but here's the problem. When you do that,

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if you're an alcoholic of my type, you have a bottle in your car,

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you have a bottle in your boot and your cleavage.

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You hide a bottle somewhere so that when you get out of the meeting,

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you're going to drink,

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but you go because you're waiting to hear something you need to hear.

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That was my mentality then. And, um,

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I couldn't hear because that alcohol was calling me.

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It was louder than any of your voices. And so I kept drinking.

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And what happened is I got that phone call from my brother that my dad was dying

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and I got on the plane and I went to New Mexico and I was like,

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I was still struggling, like not, not drinking,

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but then I could go a couple of days and then I drank. And then I,

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so when he was dying, I got there and I was sober. And, um,

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my brother showed me where he had my dad's alcohol and I drank on my way home.

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Um, but what happened is I'm in the hospital and my sister, Barbara,

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the one that I was telling you about, we were the same age.

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She came to see my dad with her new husband. And, um,

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I said something about, I don't want to die like my dad. And she says, Joanie,

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me and my husband are sober and Alcoholics Anonymous. And she said,

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why don't we go to a meeting? And I said, okay. And I thought, man,

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if she can do it, I can do it.

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Now her sobriety date was 12 days before that

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October 7th date that I walked into Alcoholics Anonymous.

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And so if I would have stayed sober, we would have been 12 days apart,

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but I didn't, I, she had kept her sobriety date.

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I kept drinking until June 2nd, 2003. But here's the thing.

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I went to a meeting with her and I said, I don't want to,

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I don't want to die like my dad.

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And I was able to stay sober until my brother showed me the alcohol.

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And then I drank and I came home and then I was in and out, in and out,

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in and out and until June 2nd. But here's the deal.

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That sister called me every day from Albuquerque, saying, Joanie,

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just go to a meeting. And I said, I know Barbara, I know,

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but I couldn't tell her the truth. I can't get home out of my bedroom.

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I'm afraid to drive drunk. I'm afraid to go to a meeting.

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I couldn't just be honest with her. And she kept calling me every day,

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every day. And as a matter of fact,

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when my sister-in-law walked into my house on May 29th, she said,

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I'm taking you to the hospital. I was on the phone with my sister, Barbara.

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And I said, she's going to take me to the hospital. And she said, okay, call me.

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And so I went to the hospital and went to the hospital and she had

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called around and got a phone number to a treatment center that would accept me.

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Because she took me to a chemical dependency doctor that said,

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if I can't spring 30 days together, then I need to be locked in like a lock

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facility, which there is no such thing unless you're imprisoned.

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Cause there is one program that it's a lockdown program, but this one, you know,

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you have the freedom to go and come if you want, you don't have to stay there.

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But, um, I called the place and I said, I can't stay 90 days. I can stay 60.

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That's what I committed to. And, um, I, uh, she took me to the hospital.

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It wasn't my first trip to the hospital. It was my second first one. I,

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they overmedicated me when I, when I got out, I was still loaded and I got drunk.

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And so the second trip was this last trip that I went on May

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29th.

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I didn't pick May 29th as my sobriety date because they gave me medic medication

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to detox. So when I got out, it was June 2nd and they, she,

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my husband picked me up, drove me to the treatment center and on the way,

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I kept telling him to take me home because there was a bottle in my house and

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he said, I'm not taking you home. They told me to take you straight there.

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And so I proceeded to tell him, um,

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basically what I thought of him and, um,

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I told him that if he didn't change by the time I got out,

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that his gut was out. Now, mind you, I had no job.

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We had a mortgage payment and no job. I hadn't worked in a long time.

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And I'm telling him basically that he's, he's the problem. And he said, Joni,

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I just want the woman I married back. And I'll tell you that today,

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he has the best woman today.

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So I go to this recovery home and my first day they said,

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want me to go home? My first day I was a piece of work. So she said,

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come sit over here, darling. And I said, no. And she said, go home.

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And I thought, who are you talking to me that way? And, um, but I did it.

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And the next, um,

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the next thing that happened is I got up in the morning. I had traumatic,

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um, uh, injury to my back and I'm not going to go through what,

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what I stupid thing I did to get that, but I could, I had trouble breathing.

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So I'm in, I'm trying to sleep and I get up in the morning. Somebody said,

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so how are you doing? And I said, Oh, I didn't sleep last night.

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I hadn't having trouble breathing. And they came out and they go, you,

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you're on hell silence. What does that mean? And they go, anybody talks to you,

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you go like this, you're not allowed to talk. And I thought, what did I do?

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But I didn't say anything. So I did it. I stayed on hell silence.

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I didn't realize that all I was doing was complaining. So they must've,

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I must've complained more than just that. I didn't sleep well.

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So they put me on hell silence and day three, um, they took a girl,

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came downstairs and I was in the kitchen cooking and she said, um, I said,

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how are you doing? I'm not supposed to be talking, but I said, how are you doing?

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And she said, I'm going to leave. I can't do this. I'm going to leave.

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And I said, Oh my God, you can't leave. If anybody's going to get this,

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it's going to be you. You have to stay. I said, it's very important.

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Even the director said that you're going to get,

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you're the one that's going to get this program.

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And they heard me trying to talk her into staying.

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They came out and they go, you're all hell silence. And I thought, okay,

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I don't know what I did for that, but okay. And, um,

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the third day if they said my name, I was going to leave and I didn't leave.

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And so at day two, I was helping a newcomer.

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I didn't even realize that was what we need to do to stay sober. But day five,

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a woman came in and she came in from the hospital just like me and she was

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scared. And I said, you're scared, aren't you? And she said, yes. And I said,

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tell me your story. And I made a friend. And then, um,

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day 10 was father's day. Um,

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I had bought my husband matchbox 20 concert tickets, my favorite band.

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So I'm self-seeking even when trying to be kind,

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I buy him tickets for father's day to my favorite band.

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And I was in lockdown.

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So I got on my knees for the first time because I wondered why everybody was so

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happy. And I wasn't. And, um,

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I got on my knees for the first time because I thought, well,

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maybe they're praying and I'm not. And I said, um, God,

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watch over my kids for me, make sure that they're safe. I said, um,

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still manipulating. I said, uh,

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I hope my husband has a good time at the matchbox 20 concert.

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I hope he doesn't take Craig because I don't like Craig very much. And, um,

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and I said, and send me a sign that my stepdad is with you.

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Send me a sign. Like I know you do it. I did this with my hand and I got him,

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uh, up in bed and I slept like a baby.

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And my stepdad died of a massive heart attack in Kauai.

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And he's one of those dads that everybody hopes for, you know,

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one that comes up to you and says, how are you doing? Do you need some money?

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You know, have you eaten? Let's go have lunch. One of those good guys.

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And he passed away. And I thought that was a dad I should have had, right.

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It cursed me later. So I, I come outside, the house manager goes,

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good morning ladies.

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She turns her back and she has a hang loose Kauai shirt on and that's where my

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stepdad died. And that was my sign. And I started crying. I said, Oh my God,

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there is a God. And he wants this for me. And the obsession to drink was gone.

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Like I haven't had that obsession since I got sober. I mean, I've got,

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you know, like I've had like, Oh my God,

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I think I'm going to drink and then I don't drink cause I call my sponsor,

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but it's never been like intense. Like it was before I said that prayer.

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So, so the, this is treatment for me, 30 days, first seven days,

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you don't really know you don't really know anybody. So you're uncomfortable,

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you're afraid. And somebody walks in and you recognize them about day seven.

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And you go, Oh my God, that's, that's the yoga lady.

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And so you remember somebody and then day 15 through 17 and sometimes quickly,

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sometimes slowly you go, I don't need this. I can,

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I could go home and do this on my own. Well, let me tell you, if you could,

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you wouldn't be in treatment, right? You wouldn't be in treatment.

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So I was talking to myself and I finally told myself to shut up and a day 28 I

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said, you know what? I'm only going to stay 30 days.

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I'm just going to do the 30 days I'm going to go home and I'm going to go to my

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own meetings and I'm going to call that lady that I never called, right?

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Sponsor in name only.

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And I said it out loud and the director said, ladies, talk to her.

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And if somebody said, Joni, you made a commitment to stay 60 days.

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Why are you going back on your own commitment to yourself for your own sobriety?

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And I thought, Oh my God, they're right.

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So I made a commitment to stay 60 days on day 60 when I was going home.

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Cause then it got easy. Like I was on a pink cloud. I was being of service.

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I was helping talking to the new girls helping out and day 60 I'm ready to go

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home and this girl pulls me aside and she was a volunteer and she said,

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you don't got it. And I thought, what do you mean I don't got it?

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I'm going to go home and I'm going to come back and I'm going to volunteer every

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day. And she said, you don't got it. You think you got it,

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but you don't have it.

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You have no fear about going home where you used to drink. And I was like, Oh,

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she's right. And so she goes open the big book to page 24 and at the top of

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page 24, it says at a certain point in the drinking of every alcoholic,

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he passes into the state where the most powerful desire to stop drinking is of

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absolutely no avail.

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This tragic situation has arrived long before it is suspected.

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We are without defense against the first drink. And she goes, I go, okay.

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And she goes, read it again. And I read it again. And I looked at her and I go,

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Oh my God, I can't ever drink again. Like I, today I have the power of choice.

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And I said, but if I drink even one drink,

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I will no longer have the power of choice. I will lose that.

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And she said, you're right.

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And then the next paragraph talks about there's a solution and we could,

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we forget about the humiliation and of even a week or

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a month ago. And I was like, Oh my God,

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I don't want to ever forget what brought me here. And so I did, I went home. Uh,

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I, there was no contact with your male contacts. So I went home,

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my husband hadn't seen me for 60 days. And, um, I, he,

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when he came home from work, I was in the living room and he was like, amazed,

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like he brought tears to his eyes and he called all his friends,

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come over and see Joni. You're not going to believe this.

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And they'd come over like every now and then. And I was like, stop calling them.

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They're looking at me like I'm a new puppy, you know?

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And so I started going to meetings and I started going to Bellflower

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and that meeting was so instrumental in my sobriety because it was such

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a huge fellowship.

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There's 400 people in this meeting that sit pretty much in the same seat every

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Monday night. And, um, I started going there. Um, I got it,

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I got a sponsor at six weeks sober,

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not the same woman that I said I was going to go home to. Um,

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I got a sponsor at Bellflower sponsor and she was very instrumental in my

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sobriety. I'm going to go really fast right now cause I'm almost out of time,

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but I went home, that sister was sober. She called me,

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asked me to come and speak at her home group. I'm making arrangements with her.

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I call her, I say, let me know when I can come out.

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And then I get a phone call from my little sister and she goes, Joni, uh,

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I need you to go on the news. Um,

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they found Barbara's car on fire and they think she's in the trunk. And I said,

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what do you mean? And she's, she's had just sent me her 90 day chip. Now,

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mind you 21 years ago, I was talking to my sister 21 years ago.

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She died when I was not quite a year, two years sober.

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She sent me her 18 month chip and they've killed, she was, uh,

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killed November 4th, 2005 and she saved my life.

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She saved my life. And, um, you know, so here's what happened at a year sober.

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I broke my foot. Didn't take anything for pain. Not one thing.

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I took aspirin. Then my husband gambled our house into foreclosure.

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Our cars were being repossessed. Life is, I was going to be homeless.

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And you know what? I wanted to be sober more than I wanted to get drunk.

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And I put it out there to a group of drunks, G O D.

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Um, and I told the group and the group started giving me solution like here,

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this is what you can do here. Call this person here, do this. And my sponsor,

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I said, I don't know what I need to do.

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I need to go get a job and I need cause I make good money when I work. And, um,

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my sponsor goes, really, is that what you need to do? And I said, thank you.

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And I said, um, I said, no, you know what I need to do?

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I need to sit back and let my husband fix it himself.

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And what happened is still I'm in fix it mode. I called,

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I called my sugar daddy and asked him if he could give us the money to get our

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house out of foreclosure. And we're talking like $10,000. And he said, sure,

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come over and get it tonight. And so he called me and said, don't come over.

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I'm not feeling well. And I said, okay. He said,

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just come get the money tomorrow. And I said, okay, God must have known.

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I wouldn't be able to live a sober woman if I had that bad behavior.

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And what happened is he died that night.

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And what happened is my mom ended up helping us get out of

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foreclosure. And, um, that sister was, was killed then.

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And I've been able to stay sober. My dad died from alcoholism.

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My little brother died from a motorcycle accident. Um,

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he was a heroin addict and they couldn't find a vein in his body to give him the

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antibiotics. And he got gangrene in his legs and he died from the infection.

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And, um, let's see what else is my oldest son, uh,

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tried to commit suicide.

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He was hurt in the military and was off for three years.

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My youngest son made me a grandmother when he was 16.

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And that little girl is 16 years old today. And she, or yeah, today.

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And she's never seen her grandma drunk. And, um,

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she was at my house today and we were watching K dramas and we spent the whole

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day just lying in bed, her and I laughing and joking.

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And then she had her first kiss last weekend and she got,

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she told me about it and I cried because she trusts me enough to tell

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me what's going on with her life. I have a total of six grandkids. Um,

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let's see what else. Oh, the husband that I married,

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I never knew there could be a love so great and I could have missed it all.

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If I would have continued drinking and continued with bad behavior,

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I could have missed it all.

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I love that man more than the day I married him and I'm truly blessed.

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Um, let's see. Um, I work in recovery. Um,

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I work with the prison population because that was my little brother's story.

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And since he's gone, I now get to help people that are coming out of prison,

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that may or may not want recovery. But that doesn't matter.

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What matters is I'm there to plant a seed.

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And that's something that was taught to me by you guys. You know,

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it's my job isn't to do it for them, you know? And I,

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I have a tendency, like I'll, I'll go to bat with your disease, you know,

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hand in hand. But the moment I figure I'm not getting anywhere, I surrender.

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I'm not going to fight harder than you are. And, um,

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what happened is one of the gentlemen that I was fighting hard for, uh,

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ended up going home and died within two days. And it happens, it happens. Um,

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but I love being sober. There's,

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there's no amount of money I can pay for the life I have today. Good, bad,

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or indifferent. I'm carrying a message because that sister I'm flying home.

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I'm going home on Thursday because my nephew is suffering from alcoholism and he

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called me and he said, auntie, I need help when you come in.

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Can you take me to a meeting? I said, I'll be there in two weeks.

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And you know why it was two weeks? Cause I had this commitment.

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So I've been talking to him every day,

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telling him you need to cut back because he can't,

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he's not going to stop without somebody physically helping him or being there.

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So I said, I'll be there on Thursday.

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I get there on Friday and first thing we're going to do is go to a meeting.

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He's going to go to work on Saturday and Sunday, but I'll be there until,

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you know,

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and I'll get him connected with AA cause that's what my sister did for me and

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what you guys do for me all the time. Thank you so much.

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Thank you. Thank you, Adam. That's a great share.