Erin's 16-Year Journey: From Valley Girl to Long-Term Sobriety
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Erin's 16-Year Journey: From Valley Girl to Long-Term Sobriety

Episode description

Erin shares her 16-year path to sobriety, describing a slow‑progressing alcoholism that began in high school amid a creative, party‑filled upbringing. She reflects on family dynamics, her sister’s neurodiversity, and the turning points that led her to lasting recovery.

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- Hi everybody, my name is Erin and I am an alcoholic.

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- Hi Erin.

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- And thank you Ben for inviting me to come out

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to this very friendly group.

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Yeah, you guys are great.

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Thank you to John for his share, that was great.

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A lot of similarities there, John.

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And congratulations on the new baby.

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And welcome to our new folks, those of you here.

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I hope you find what I found here.

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And that was hope, that's what I found when I got here

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to the rooms of AA.

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My sobriety date is August 28th, 2007, 2007.

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I don't say it that often, but I'm grateful

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that I just celebrated 16 years a couple months ago.

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So, that's amazing to me 'cause by the end,

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before I got here, I had about a three hour window

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that I could go before I had to have alcohol in my system.

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And that's with the alcohol that I already had in my system

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because I was basically saturated.

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But that window would start to close

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and those shakes would start and that nausea would start

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and that would be the, that was where my drinking took me.

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But that was a long time coming.

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I am an alcoholic that has had a very slow progression

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of my disease, very, very slow.

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I was born and raised here in the valley.

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I'm a valley girl, yes I am.

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Born in Burbank, grew up in Woodland Hills.

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And I actually, the first place my parents lived

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when I was born was down Yarmouth, like somewhere down there.

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I was very young, I don't remember.

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We moved to Woodland Hills when I was about six years old.

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But yeah, so this has been my home.

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And you know, unlike our 10 minute speaker,

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I came from a family that there is no history of alcoholism

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in my immediate family.

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Now, way back when, who knows?

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But my immediate family, no.

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They were just loving, wonderful, supportive,

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great parents, me and my sister.

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My sister was mentally challenged,

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but growing up with that, I, you know,

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we didn't know until we got to a certain age.

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She was one of these kids.

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I guess nowadays she'd be called on the spectrum.

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But when we were growing up, there was no difference.

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But when we hit like adolescence and into puberty,

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and it was almost like she just mentally stopped growing.

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She was about a 10 year old mentally,

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and that's where she stopped.

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And you know, she was a loving, wonderful human being.

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She really was, she was a special spirit.

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And I do believe in those energies,

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and I do believe in that.

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That is the higher power I look to.

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My higher power has many different names,

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depending on the day and how I feel,

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but that's usually how it works for me.

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Anyway, you know, I grew up with this great family.

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My father was an actor.

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So I was raised around a lot of creative people,

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a lot of that energy when my parents would have parties

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or what they, we would go to our friends

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that would have these cocktail parties and whatnot.

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And what I saw were adults having a grand time,

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having fun, laughing, you know, funny.

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They were funny people because they were all,

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a lot of them were, you know,

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in the entertainment business, they were very creative.

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So I was always just joyous.

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And that's what I remember.

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That's what I saw as a kid.

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Like, this is what adults do.

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How fun is this?

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It's fantastic.

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And so that was my image.

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And when time came for me in high school

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is when I started experimenting with, you know,

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all right, let's see what this does.

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And well, you know,

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immediately I enjoyed the effect produced by alcohol.

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It did, you know, give me that silliness,

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that giddiness, that,

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and I could see why they enjoyed having so much fun.

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And like I said, I'm a slow progressing alcoholic.

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So even though I enjoyed it and, you know,

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in the very beginning there were, you know,

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a couple of times of overdoing it and getting sick.

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And one time to my mother's dismay,

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I was with my friends.

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We decided to try Slow Gin.

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And first of all, it's a lovely color.

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And when you mix it with what we were mixing it with,

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and I got so sick.

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Slow Gin Fizz is what we were partying with that night.

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And oh baby, never had it again.

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But yeah, my mom wasn't real happy

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when it ended up on the white rug in my bedroom.

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So anyway, there was that.

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But again, to see that for me at that point,

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it was the fun part of it.

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I was still having fun with it.

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It wasn't something that all of a sudden

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I was just craving it and I had to do it again.

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And I had to have it.

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And I was an active kid and I was busy.

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You know, I was, I started taking dancing very young,

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started ballet lessons when I was a very young kid.

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And I just loved doing that kind of thing.

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I loved performing.

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I was raised around it.

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So that was naturally what I enjoyed doing.

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And so through school, that's when I was busy.

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I was doing that kind of stuff.

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And so I liked to party with my friends.

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Like I say, in high school,

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started smoking pot a little bit.

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That was fun.

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I was enjoying it.

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But again, it wasn't really a problem at that point.

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It wasn't so much that I was out of control right away.

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So I get out of high school and I decide, you know what?

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I want to get right into this whole deal

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and I'm going to start auditioning for shows

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and I'm going to start doing my thing.

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And you know, I don't really need to go to college.

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So it kind of brushed that off.

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And I wasn't getting a lot of work

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auditioning for shows in LA because I'm six feet tall.

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And at that time,

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when you are auditioning for the chorus or something,

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they didn't want you taller than the lead.

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So most cases I was always taller than the lead.

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And one day some guy, I was working as a waitress

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and a guy said to me,

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"Have you ever thought about going to Vegas?"

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And I said, "No, I really hadn't thought of that."

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And he said, "Well, you know,

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they like tall women there, you know, to be in the shows."

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At that time, there was still the big extravaganza.

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So I said, "All right."

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So girlfriend and I decided that was it.

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20 years old, packed up the car, let's go to Vegas.

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What do I know?

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You know, I miss those days of just complete,

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who cares, whatever.

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And you know, the world's my oyster.

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And off we went.

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And you know, and again, yes, I was doing, I was drinking.

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I was smoking pot, doing a little speed here and there.

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How can that hurt?

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And you know, it was still, it wasn't a problem.

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I was still able to separate what I needed to do,

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what I needed to take care of, how I needed to function.

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And so I went, I auditioned, I got a job.

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Didn't take very long.

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And I started working at the Dunes Hotel

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in Casino de Paris.

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That was my first job.

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And this was back when the Dunes Hotel still existed.

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It's kind of sad nowadays.

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I look better.

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And I know Adam's from Vegas.

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And I know there's some other people from Vegas

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I heard from Adam.

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Vegas, I had a really good time.

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I spent, you know, basically my 20s there.

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I turned 21 in Vegas.

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And I was working in a show on the strip.

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And I was living a dream that I didn't even know I had.

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But I was doing what I loved doing.

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I was performing and it was fantastic.

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And I think I actually, I think it was John mentioned it,

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but I was surrounded by people

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that we all did the same thing.

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We all basically partied the same.

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So it wasn't like anything was going to stand out.

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Anything was unusual.

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We worked hard, we played hard.

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You know, we got off work at two o'clock in the morning.

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What are you gonna do?

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You're all, you know, hopped up.

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What are we gonna do?

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We go out, we go dancing.

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That's what we did.

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That was work dancing that we just did.

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So now we're gonna go play and that's what we did.

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And for a lot of years,

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I was still able to keep things on track for the most part.

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And when I was new to the program, when I came in,

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I heard a speaker say that all the stop signs were there

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and I blew through every one of them.

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And when I heard him say that something clicked

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and I went, oh my gosh, that's exactly what it was.

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I just didn't know it at the time

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'cause I didn't know what alcoholism was.

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I didn't know what being an alcoholic was.

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I, you know, my vision of alcoholics were people

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that drank out of brown paper bags

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and lived in the power hole under a bridge

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or something like that was an alcoholic.

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I certainly couldn't be that.

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And so I had no concept of what the disease was

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and the different ways that it can sneak in and take over.

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And so kept doing my thing, kept doing my thing

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and then finally decided it was time, you know,

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'cause it can't dance forever.

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And my friends were starting to go to school

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and look at other careers or they were getting married

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and they were starting to have kids.

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And I still wasn't ready for that

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and I wanted the party to go on,

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but I needed a change

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'cause it was getting kind of dull there.

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So I came back here and started a whole nother career

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and a career that I stayed in for, you know, like 10 years.

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I was at that career.

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And again, but at all this time,

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my alcoholism is slowly, slowly progressing and progressing.

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And as the promotions would come

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and I would get into certain areas of work

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where things were a little looser,

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it was not as much pressure on me to do certain things.

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How much can it hurt to have a drink in the morning?

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What the heck?

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And slowly that started and I had no idea.

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I had no idea what was actually happening to me.

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And what was happening is that progression.

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That ism was catching up to me

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and it was becoming to where that was it.

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And before I knew it, every morning I was getting up

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and I was going into the bathroom and I was throwing up

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and I was getting sick because the shakes were on.

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And the only way to stop was to eliminate

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what needed to be eliminated and get into the kitchen

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and get another drink so I could get through the day,

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do what I needed to do.

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And that started, that was that progression.

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But again, I was very much a person

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that would not let people see what was going on.

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I'd gotten very good at that facade,

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putting that face forward.

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So my parents, obviously they knew me better

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than anybody in the world.

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They knew something was up, especially when holidays

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and okay, maybe I can't make it.

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Well, no, I'm not feeling well.

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I'm not feeling well.

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And eventually it got to a point where

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I knew I had a problem.

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I just didn't know what to do about it.

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And my mother got very sick at one point.

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She was diagnosed with colon cancer and she got very ill.

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And it was me and my dad at that point.

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My sister had passed away when she was 30,

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not because she obviously was not an alcoholic

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or anything like that.

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It was just because of her issues

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and what she had been born with.

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She just shortened her life.

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That's all basically.

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And it was very hard losing her,

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but when my mom got sick and I thought, okay,

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I'm gonna have to really, really try.

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'Cause I'd been trying off and on for years,

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drying out fine.

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Okay, it'd be a little hard at first,

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but then I'd be okay, I'd last for maybe a month or so,

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whatever.

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But I never thought that I would need any help.

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I know what I'm doing, I can handle this.

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I take care of business and she got sick.

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So I decided that it was a good time to dry out

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so I could really be there to help with her

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and help my dad.

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And so I managed to stay dry for about three months

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and she passed away.

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And when she passed away, that was it.

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Because now I had the best excuse in the world

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and nobody could tell me, nobody could bitch at me,

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nobody could complain about the way I was drinking

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because don't you know, my best friend just died.

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And I was gonna just milk that excuse

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for as long as I possibly could.

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And I did, I did.

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And when my dad got sick about nine years later,

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I couldn't dry out for him, but I was there.

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I did what I could with the help of the friends

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that were still around, thank God.

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I struggled through and it wasn't pretty.

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But my first surrender came when my dad was,

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I believe it was the day before he actually passed.

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He was in hospice at home, we had him at his house.

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And the hospice nurse and those people, God bless them.

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They are angels on earth, people that work in hospice.

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I don't know how they do it, but they are tremendous people.

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She said to me, you know, we believe

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that the hearing is the last thing to go.

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So if there's anything you need to say to your father,

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now is the time to say it to him.

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And we believe that he will hear you

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'cause he at this point was non-responsive,

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basically comatose.

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I made a promise to my dad that I would get well.

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And I didn't know what that looked like.

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And I didn't know how I was gonna do it.

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But in my gut, deep inside, I meant it because I was done.

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I wanted to stop drinking

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and I just didn't know how I was gonna do it.

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I was scared to death.

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I was afraid at that point that, you know,

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physically my body was starting to break down.

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So I didn't know if I would be able to do it

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without something seriously bad happening.

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Anyway, that was my first surrender.

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Again, I didn't realize that until I came to you

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and I started learning about the disease of alcoholism.

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And I started getting into the book

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of Alcoholics Anonymous and hearing, you know,

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these stories that we hear, you know,

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and I realized that that was a surrender that I made.

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And from that point, it was another six months

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until I was able to get sober.

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And that wasn't a pretty six months, but you know,

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it happened and it was now, as I look back on that time,

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that was where I call it the pieces of the puzzle

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started falling into place.

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And a friend got in my face, you know, at the bitter end

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and basically said to me, you're killing yourself

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and I'm tired of watching it.

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And at that point, he said the most important thing

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anybody had said to me, at least anybody had said

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that it actually sunk in.

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He said, if I have to hold your hand to get you help,

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I will do that.

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And that was the moment of clarity.

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I said, okay.

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And I had a phone number for an outpatient program

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that I'd had for like a year

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because I did want to find the help.

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And I called them and they said, okay, great,

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come in and see us.

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Like it was like two days later.

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And then of course, you know how we are, wait breaks.

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Well, wait a minute, not, I can't yet.

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And she was like, well, what's the problem?

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What do you mean you can't?

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And I thought, okay, here we go.

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You know, and that was it.

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I was just, it was fear.

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It was just the fear kicking in.

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And I went in and met with them.

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They immediately assessed me and said,

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we're going to get you into a medical detox.

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Thank you God.

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'Cause I definitely had to be medically detoxed.

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And so very grateful that I was able to get into a detox.

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And that was where I heard the first message of hope

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was a lovely man, panel of one, H and I,

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came in to that detox and shared his story.

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I don't remember a lot of what he said,

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but I heard that there was hope

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and that it wasn't too late for me.

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'Cause I really had reached that point

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where I thought it was too late.

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I had reached the point of thinking, you know what?

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I had the efforts and I thought,

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this is just the way it's going to be.

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I'm just going to be getting up sick every morning,

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doing my thing.

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That's just the way it's going to be.

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And I still had stuff.

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I hadn't lost everything yet.

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I still had a kitchen where I could keep my vodka

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in the refrigerator, in the freezer.

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You know, I still had that.

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And you know, I was very fortunate

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and I'm very grateful for the way

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that my parents had taken care of things for me.

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And I'm more than grateful to AA

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because I didn't lose all of that

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because I came to see all of you.

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And I came to be in AA

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and be part of this tremendous program that saved my life.

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And so I started that outpatient program.

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They suggested go to meetings.

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I thought, oh boy, here we go.

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And, but I was willing,

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I was so willing to do whatever it took.

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At that point, I was so done that whatever it was,

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whatever they suggested I do, I would do it.

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And I came to the meetings

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and whatever you guys suggested, I did it.

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And the one thing that I could hear,

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'cause my brain was pretty much mush for a good six months,

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the first six months,

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but there were certain things that I could hear that stuck.

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And one of them was get in the middle.

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It kept saying, get in the middle,

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get in the middle, get in the middle.

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I thought, okay, well, I think I can get the middle.

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Don't have a whole lot else going on.

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So I guess I could try that.

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Let's try it.

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So, and fortunately I also got hooked up

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with my first sponsor who was about six years sober

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at the time and she was on fire for AA.

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So we didn't mess around.

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I mean, she had me into those steps and into the book

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and we were working on that like right away.

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As soon as I started working with her,

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which was fine with me again,

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I didn't have a whole lot going on

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and I certainly did not want to drink again.

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And so I got involved.

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I got into H&I, that was one of the first things,

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went to the H&I meeting.

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And if you've never done H&I, do it, it's fantastic.

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And going on panels and then taking panels

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and being able to share with the people.

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And the one thing that affected me in those early days,

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especially with H&I was one of my panels

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was at Sylmar Rehab and that's a lockdown facility

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and there's different departments in there.

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But some of the areas that we would take the panels into

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were people that were severely messed up

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and it was maybe drugs, maybe alcohol,

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maybe it was just something that they had beforehand.

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But there were people with wet brain in there

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and I had never seen that at that point before

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and that scared the life out of me.

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Scared me to death because I knew

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as soon as I started seeing those people,

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I thought that's where I'm going to be

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if I don't stick to this thing.

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That's what's gonna happen to me.

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I just know it.

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And so when I would walk out of those panels

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and that door would close behind,

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I always called it the walk of gratitude.

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I thought, thank you God,

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that I get to walk out of this place

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and I have another day that I have a chance

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to improve my life, to do better.

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And that's AA, that's what this program is.

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You know, it's getting into those steps

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and doing the steps and getting into the areas of service.

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And through these years,

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one of the most important things too that I have found is,

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you know, in the beginning, yes,

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I mean, I jumped into everything

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and tried whatever here and there

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and because I needed to be busy,

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I needed to know and I needed to learn about this program

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and I needed to know the history of Alcoholics Anonymous.

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That's just the way my head works.

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And it was so helpful to me to know where we came from

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and how this developed.

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And it just was so important, but as time went on,

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I found that because I had tried a little bit of this

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and a little bit of that as I went,

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I started to find where my strengths were,

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what commitments that I particularly liked and was good at.

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And, you know, and sponsoring, I do sponsor,

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I have sponsored.

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Sponsoring is not one of my strongest suits.

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I know how to sponsor,

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I know how to take somebody through the book.

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I haven't had a lot of success with my sponsors,

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but that's not on me, that's on them.

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You know, God love them.

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And I hope that, you know,

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each one that I have had contact with

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and hope maybe something stuck

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and maybe that somewhere down wherever they may be,

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that they're doing okay.

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But, you know, I'm sure you've all seen it too.

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Some people are great sponsors.

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That's just a natural, they're just natural sponsors.

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And that's fantastic.

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Some people are great speakers and that's fantastic.

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Some people make really good coffee.

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I mean, really, you can tell the difference

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when you switch over that commitment, right?

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I mean, you know, the coffee was pretty darn good

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and then they switched that commitment.

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It's like, whoa, we're gonna have to talk to this one, okay.

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But you know what, the point I'm making is,

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you know, I've just found that it's important

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to find your niche because that's what,

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at least for me, for my personal experience,

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that's what keeps me coming back

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because then it's because I enjoy it.

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And I, you know, I was fortunate enough

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to get involved with the convention as well,

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San Fernando Valley Convention.

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And again, that was when I was five months sober.

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I went to my first convention as a volunteer

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and in 2017, I was the chairperson.

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So, you know, you just jump in there and get to it

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and, you know, these things happen

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and it's been just a blessing to me.

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And, you know, I'm retired now.

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I've been retired for a while actually

20:37

because I took care of my dad in the end.

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And like I said, that time that wasn't too lovely,

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but, you know, fortunately,

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I'm blessed that I was able to retire

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and, you know, I have a very simple life now.

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It's simple, but it's wonderful, it's lovely.

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You know, I basically get to do it.

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I'm not married, I never married,

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I never had kids by choice.

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Nothing against people that do, but wasn't my thing,

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wasn't in the cards.

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But, you know, the thing is it just,

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it gives me, I have a freedom now.

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And the freedom is not just because of what's on the outside

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and what I have on the outside, the freedom is now inside.

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And that's because of Alcoholics Anonymous,

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because now instead of that dread and darkness

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and that black hole, 'cause like I said earlier,

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facade, all the facade always, oh, everything's great.

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I could put that up really good, but nobody knew,

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nobody saw the darkness and how bad it was.

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And I certainly was not a person who was gonna kill myself

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because that's not the person that my parents raised.

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And out of respect for them,

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I would never have done anything like that.

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You know, their love and support is basically,

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I think, for many years what saved my life

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in the sense that there was just so much respect for them

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that I wouldn't do anything.

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I mean, it was bad enough I was killing myself slowly.

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You know, the good news is I found the answer

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and I found the solution, and that's here.

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That was here in Alcoholics Anonymous.

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And, you know, as it says in "A Vision for You,"

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it talks about, you know, how,

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that I'm trying to think where it is that,

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but, you know, the hideous four horsemen,

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the jumping off place, the beginning of that chapter

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is just so exactly, when I heard it read for the first time,

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it was another one of those things

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that just completely clicked in my head

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of that place of can't live with it

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and I can't live without it.

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But the reality is I can live without it.

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And, you know, that it's truly a blessing

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to be able to do that.

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Now, I had mentioned earlier that, you know,

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the energies and the spirits that I believe in,

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and so my higher power, I do have different names.

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I call God sometimes, I call Spirit of the Universe.

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It's one of the things I love about it in the big book,

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the way Bill writes about spirits, you know?

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And he has many different names that he uses.

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He doesn't use God all the time.

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And he was another one, again,

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talking about the history and learning the history.

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He also felt that way.

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He had an aversion to organized religion.

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I did too.

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I mean, I was not raised in a strict religion.

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My parents were very kind of,

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well, my dad never really even said the word God,

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I don't think.

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It wasn't that he was, you know,

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against or had a problem with it.

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He just wasn't his thing

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and he never really talked much about it.

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But my mom was a seeker

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and she would try many different things.

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And so I think from her is where I got that sense of,

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you know, there's many different versions

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and there's, as one of the sayings goes,

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there's many paths to God.

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And so, yeah, that wasn't hard for me to grasp that.

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And especially, again, reading Bill's story

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and learning about how he felt about it.

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And so being able to call whatever it is

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that works for you is the beauty of it.

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And that was one of the things, again,

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that pulled me into AA

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because when I got here, you said, you know,

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we don't care what you believe.

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'Cause that was one of my things.

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It's like, oh, they're gonna start talking about God

24:04

and you gotta believe in God

24:05

and you gotta believe this way.

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The way I envisioned organized religion had done

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when I was younger.

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And no, you guys were like, nope, we don't care.

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Doesn't matter.

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You can call it what you want.

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You can believe in what you want.

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You just gotta know that there's something bigger than you.

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I was like, all right, that's good.

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I can do that.

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I can do that.

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And so that, you know, that was where it started.

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And as the years have gone on, like I say,

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I believe in angels and I believe in energy

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and I believe in the spirit of the universe.

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And I trust that it will get me through.

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And so far it has, you know, it gets me through.

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It gets me through when things get difficult.

24:44

The beginning of this year was a beast

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as far as losing people and just wonderful AA people.

24:51

And the beginning of the year,

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within a matter of a few weeks,

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two of the women, one was my grand sponsor

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and one was my great-grand sponsor

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when I was brand new, when I first started.

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And then they became just really dear friends of mine

25:05

as time went on.

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And within a few weeks, they both passed away.

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I don't know, those of you that knew Bob Fisher

25:11

from central office, fantastic, wonderful Bob Fisher.

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That just the man that, you know,

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every time I saw that man, just was like,

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"Give me a hug, Bob Fisher,

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"and I'll know all is right with the world."

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And it was, and we lost him.

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And that was a huge blow just to everybody,

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to all who knew him and came in touch.

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But thank God we had those people.

25:30

You know, I'm so grateful for the people

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that have come before and the people

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that have kept the doors open

25:36

and, you know, have continued to carry the message.

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And then I look at that and every time

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we do lose our wonderful old timers

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and those that have helped us through, you know,

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it's like, well, then that's them passing the torch to us.

25:56

'Cause if AA is to survive, we all have to continue.

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We have to continue to do what we do

26:02

and carry the message and be the examples.

26:05

And again, going back to what I was saying

26:07

about finding your niche, like when I walked in tonight,

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so many of you there that were so friendly

26:13

and greeted and said, "Hi."

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And that's just a wonderful thing, you know,

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and that's important.

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And not all meetings do that.

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I'm sure you all know that.

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You've been to meetings where not everybody,

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you know, is that, I mean, hopefully most of them are,

26:28

but, you know, and that's just great

26:30

because that pulls you in.

26:31

That's, you know, the example.

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We show the example, this is what we have,

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not promotion, what is it?

26:37

Thank you.

26:38

You know, the old brain cells came back,

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like, you know, in the first five to 10 years.

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And now I've reached that age

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where now they're starting to, you know, that's all right.

26:51

At least I got some of them back.

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That's the good news.

26:55

Anybody that's new, they may think like,

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I was somewhere not too long ago

26:59

and I said that and there was a young lady

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and she was like, "Really?"

27:04

I said, "Yeah, hang in there, they'll come back."

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You know, they will, but you just gotta have faith.

27:11

But yeah, so, you know, I'm so grateful for this program

27:15

and I like to have fun in this program

27:18

and I really do my best to enjoy, you know,

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and have the fun and be silly,

27:25

but I take my sobriety very seriously.

27:28

I mean, there's no joke about being an alcoholic

27:32

and I know that it wouldn't take much.

27:35

It wouldn't take much.

27:36

And the thing that I always, you know, it's that fear,

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but it's a good fear.

27:41

My sponsor now says that's a good, healthy fear.

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You know, that I always say that I don't know

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if I was to all of a sudden decide,

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you know what, I got this thing,

27:53

I think I'll go ahead and take a drink.

27:54

How bad could it be?

27:55

First of all, if I'd be stupid enough

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to throw away everything I've worked so hard for,

27:59

but it could happen.

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I don't know that I would come back.

28:02

I don't know that I would have that strength

28:04

or that energy to actually do that again.

28:07

So you know what?

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I don't think I'm gonna play that game

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'cause I have that healthy fear

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and I will hold on to that healthy fear.

28:14

And I'm just so grateful that there is Alcoholics Anonymous,

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that there is a solution.

28:19

And again, you know, just to put it out there though,

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I also believe in acknowledging other ways

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that people have found to stay sober

28:28

'cause there are other ways.

28:30

AA is, it says it in our literature,

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we are not the only answer.

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We're a pretty damn good answer,

28:36

but there are other ways that people can do it.

28:39

And again, it goes with what I said earlier

28:42

about finding your niche.

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You know, if you're not finding where you fit in yet,

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keep searching for it.

28:49

Keep searching for it because you will find it.

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Just the important thing is, you know, hang on,

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hold onto the hope that your life can be better.

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And that's what I do.

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That's the best I can do.

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And I try to do that every day, each day,

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one day at a time.

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I try to practice these principles in all my affairs.

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And I thank you all for inviting me,

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for allowing me to come and share with you.

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Thank you.