From Family Legacy to Sobriety: A Teacher’s Journey
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From Family Legacy to Sobriety: A Teacher’s Journey

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Jennifer shares how growing up around a family history of alcoholism shaped her early misconceptions and why she turned to drinking as a coping tool. From her first drinks in college to a steady descent into daily use, she recounts the turning point that led to sobriety in 2007 and how she now balances recovery with her role as a substitute teacher.

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Hi, Jennifer alcoholic. I have a sobriety date of August 4th, 2007.

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I have a sponsor and I have a home group and I'm just here to share what it was

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like, what happened and what I'm like today. And so, um,

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it was fun and then it wasn't, and then I wanted to stop, but I couldn't.

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That's the short version, right? Um, so you go a little bit more detail.

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Um, so I actually always knew, it feels like I always knew about alcoholism.

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Um, my dad's family lives back East in Massachusetts and I always heard how bad

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they all had, you know, had it. And so I always knew it ran in my family.

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Um, my dad's been sober since before I was born.

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And I remember learning the serenity prayer and it was just a nice little

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saying, you know, I remember coming across his, um, AA chips, um,

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his family from back East got sober and, um,

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what's in him and AA chips. And I would,

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I found it when I was like stealing coins out of his ashtray off of his bureau,

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you know? And so he would tell, he told me about that. And so I,

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I knew that he had been in, been an alcoholic.

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I knew that he drank and I knew his stories. So I always knew that that was there.

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So I was kind of warned about it, but, um, you know,

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I definitely didn't think it applied to me and I definitely didn't,

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I couldn't even picture my dad as the alcoholic that I thought an alcoholic

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looked like. Right. So to me,

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I always thought the alcoholic was the guy on the street with the trench coat

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and the alcohol in the bag. I always pictured that as what an alcoholic was.

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Um, I too can relate to the 10 minute speaker. Thank you for your share. Um,

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the whole not feeling like part of, not feeling, you know,

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just feeling different. But, um, I didn't really know what it was.

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I just was a really big thinker.

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I don't know if we got any other thinkers in the room,

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but I would just think and think, and then I think, why am I thinking so much?

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And I'm talking about like, since before I started kindergarten,

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I was getting migraines. Um,

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I remember my mom having to walk me around the apartment complex cause like the

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second grade homework was stressing me out too much. Like, um,

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I was just constantly just thinking way too much insomnia,

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like from that point on even. Um, and that's very lonely when you're like,

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you know,

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in second grade and the whole house is asleep and you're awake and you're just

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thinking, gosh, it was awful. Um,

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so I basically needed the drink long before I took it, you know, and, um,

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I didn't take my first drink until I was about 20,

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which was one of the things that I would compare myself to everybody else in the

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rooms and here when they were like six drinking behind the dumpster, you know,

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and I was like that and I can't be one, you know, but, um, you know,

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so I was about 20 when I had my first drink and even then I remember it was at a

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party at the, at the beach, um, at the beach house.

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And I felt kind of cool holding the red cup,

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but I still didn't feel on the inside the way everybody's outside look like they

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just all seem to just get it or something, you know,

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and I just did not feel that feeling.

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So I did not feel that feeling until I had my first,

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my first drunk when I turned 21 and I was drinking with people from work.

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Um, you know, I was falling off at the bar stool, walking into the walls. Um,

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the girlfriends went home, I kept kicking it with the guys. Um,

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and I remember I came to the next morning and the girlfriend was in the back

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room and she was saying, Oh my God, she's laying in her own vomit.

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And I remember thinking, when can I do this again? You know,

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when can I do this again?

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Cause I had finally felt that sense of peace and comfort that comes with taking

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a few drinks. I just hadn't been drinking enough up until that point. You know,

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um, I didn't start drinking that like, you know,

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I didn't start drinking every day all the time. At that point,

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I drank as much as I could when I could.

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I found some other substances to keep me occupied. In the meantime, um,

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I was going to college. Um,

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I used to say I don't know how I managed to graduate. Well, I do.

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I lied and cheated. That's how I managed to graduate, you know?

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So I managed to graduate college. Um, and at that point I,

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I realized it felt to me like I had been wasting my time.

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Like what was I doing in college? Just going to work, going to school.

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I wasn't happy. I needed to be having fun. You know,

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I was like 23 years old and I needed to get the party going. My sister,

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I have three sisters. I usually only talk about the, my younger one,

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probably only going to talk about the younger one again today.

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We'll see what happens. But, uh, she was old enough to start drinking.

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And so she had friends already that I didn't have. So there we go. I had it,

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I was set, you know, and we would be at the bar.

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There was always a reason to be there. Whether it was,

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we knew the bartender who poured heavy for us on Monday,

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Tuesday was two for somewhere, you know, Wednesday I think was a rest day,

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Thursday it's already the weekend, you know? So there was always a reason to be

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at the bar and to be drinking. Um, and even back then,

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like I knew in the back of my mind that my drinking was probably not quite

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normal, but I was around other people who seem to be drinking the same way I was.

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So it was easy to write it off. Um, so I became a substitute school teacher.

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Like I've always known I wanted to be a teacher my whole life.

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There was a time period I wanted to be an astronaut and then the spaceship blew

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up. Um, and you know, and my, my nana scared me away from the math. So, um,

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I was going to be a teacher, so I became a substitute school teacher.

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And I don't know if, um, if you ever had one of those,

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but I was definitely one that you're like, something is wrong with this one.

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You know, that was definitely me.

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So I used to think that I was hungover when I went to work,

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but the way I drank, I was definitely still drunk. You know,

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I was puking at the red lights.

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I would make sure I had a trash can underneath the teacher's desk, you know,

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and I would try to wait for the five minute passing period and sometimes I

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couldn't. So I was politely puking under the podium, you know, and, uh,

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and I thought, I thought that it was normal. I wrote it off in my head.

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The alcoholic life became my only normal one. I thought, okay,

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I'm 24 years old. If all these old teachers, which, oh gosh, I am now, you know,

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if all these old teachers were as young as me, you know,

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they would be just as ill in the morning as I am.

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Like if all my friends didn't have these waitressing jobs that they got to sleep

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it off, they'd be as thick as I am. Like, I always just found those excuses,

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right? And just try to make it be okay.

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I remember one time I was teaching little, um, second graders,

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I'd shown up late. I was reeking of the Jack Daniels. Um, and I remember like,

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you know, it was time for lunch and they're like, you gotta walk us out,

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you know? And I was like, you just gotta go. You just gotta go.

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And like the last kid didn't make it out in time.

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And I actually puked on this kid, you know, and then I pretended it was a sneeze.

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I went, ha-choo, like it was a sneeze.

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And I didn't follow them out to the lunch line.

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Like I made them get there on their own.

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I just crawled over to the book nook and took a nap is what I did, you know?

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And I remember getting, um,

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a letter like a week later or something saying that they didn't want me back at

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that school. And I remember thinking, why?

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Like I really remember having that thought, why is it?

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Cause I didn't grade the papers. Like,

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I think there was bigger problems going on than that, you know? And, um,

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so I just,

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so I decided that my problem was that I didn't know if I had a job the next day

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or not. That's why I kept drinking. Because I, if I didn't know,

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I had was either calling in to see if I had a job and then if I did it,

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I just pick up the next drink. Right. And it wasn't even my drink. Let's,

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let's be clear on that. I was always the hanger on. I would go to the bar.

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I would try to work the room, get myself a couple of drinks,

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say thanks for talking for two minutes and walk away. You know,

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I was not going there to make friends. I was like the purse watcher at that point.

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I would watch, I would much rather just sit there and watch everyone's purses

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and get my drink on, you know?

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And so I was actually sleeping on my dad's couch at the time,

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sealing his quarters once again,

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so that I had enough money to get on the bus cause my car had been repossessed.

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So I could get that first drink, you know? Um,

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and so I was going to whatever house, you know, the usual, um, party spot.

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I love that. I call it a party. Like it was like four of us maybe, you know,

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like, I don't know that it's exactly a party, but that's what it was someday.

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Some days there was a nice big party there, but I was like,

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I knew where you stashed your beers that you thought you were hiding that,

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you know, they weren't being hidden very well and I would drink those. And, um,

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so yeah, so that's what I was doing. And, um, I,

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so that was the problem that I didn't know if I had the job the next day.

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So I decided I needed to go back to school. I got evicted from my house,

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you know, and that's why I was sleeping on my dad's couch. And, um,

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and I went back to school.

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I found a couple other teachers to be that looked like they were drinking like

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me until I went missing when we were supposed to be drinking together.

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And they're all, you went off with some guy you said you knew. And I was like,

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Oh, okay, great. You know, that was a little embarrassing. Um,

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and those words and comprehensible demoralization, you know, those just,

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that's just all of my drinking pretty much. Um, I remember asking my,

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one of my sisters who is not an alcoholic,

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if she ever had any experiences of incomprehensible demoralization.

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And I remember her sitting there thinking and thinking and thinking, and she's,

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Oh, well, there was this one time, but then I had like 10 in my head,

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you know? And so I was like, okay, we definitely do not drink the same. Um,

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so I went back to school. I became a, uh, I got my, I became a teacher.

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I got a job. Now I'm teaching kids who are, um, on probation.

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I'm teaching kids who are coming straight from juvenile hall.

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They've got probation officers, you know, and I'm telling them,

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you can't pass out in my class mainly cause I couldn't.

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So then you shouldn't be able to either, you know,

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and I actually remember telling them one time that there are responsible donors

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out there. Like who says that to high schoolers? Like, you know,

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who says that? Um,

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and that was before it even became legal in California.

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And I'm trying to act like it's okay. Um,

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and basically I found the teachers that I thought drank like me, you know,

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I remember being in the, this, this memory came to mind this week. And, um,

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I remember I was in the teacher's room and someone asked me, so do you drink?

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And I was like, Oh yeah, I drink. I mean,

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that was not me holding a nice little bottle of anything.

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That was the square bottle of Jack that I was throwing back when they asked me.

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And I remember when I did it, I was like, Oh God, Oh God, did they catch on?

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Did they see what I was in my head holding and drinking? And you know, um,

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so I met up with a couple of people and we started, um, the drinking club,

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we even called it the drinking club, you know,

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and then I had to even it out by joining a couple other teachers with the book

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club, but that didn't fix anything either, you know,

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and I remember, um,

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there was this big test that you have to take to become a school teacher,

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you know, and it's like a five hour test and it's all the subjects.

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And I showed up to the test and I didn't even have a pencil with an eraser.

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And I was like, what kind of teacher am I going to be?

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I don't even have an eraser. And of course,

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all the other teachers to be in my head had like five of those big fat pink ones.

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And I was not going to ask for one at all.

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So the whole time I'm taking the test, I'm just thinking,

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what do you think you are? What, what kind of teacher are you? I need a drink.

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I need a drink. I need a drink. And so that drink went out. Um,

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I went to the bar way too early. I was drinking until closing.

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I heard bikers and booze, a few cities over,

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I was going to find it in my Volkswagen bug. Instead,

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I came to and there was a police officer at my window and I did not know how or

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why or anything, you know? And, um, so that was my, my DUI.

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Um, and they parked my bug. And when I came the next day, like the,

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it was like I was rocking out to static, the radio didn't even work.

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And it was like blasting. And I was like, Oh my gosh. Um,

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so I ended up getting that,

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which meant that I started coming to Alcoholics Anonymous. That's how I came.

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My first AA meeting, um,

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was actually on my sister's court card. I brought her to one. Um,

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and then I ended up getting my own. And so I started coming to meetings.

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I went to the local Alana club. Um,

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I remember sitting there with my sunglasses on outside,

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even after the sunset, my glasses stayed on. I remember the, um,

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going around the circle and everyone's all so-and-so alcoholic.

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And I was just Jennifer.

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And then one time I accidentally said Jennifer alcoholic and everyone got so

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excited. And I was like, that was seriously a mistake.

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I did not go back to that meeting. Um, and you know, I,

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I just, I heard that if you were laughing, that meant you were relating.

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So I just tried to stop laughing, but I was, I was definitely relating.

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I could hear in their stories, like something that I could relate to,

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but I was, like I said, looking for those differences. They were this,

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they were that old when they started,

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they don't have a professional job like I do, dah, dah, dah, dah. You know,

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I hadn't been to jail cause of course that DUI doesn't count. Right. You know,

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so it was all of those things looking for differences instead of the

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similarities. So, um, I was, uh,

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I had to do some community service with that first DUI,

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which I thought that judge was a bit extreme making me have to do this.

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So I was doing that in lieu of jail time. Um,

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and I was at the Goodwill hanging up clothes. Um,

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but I was going out to my car and getting it on every couple of hours at break

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time anyways, and coming back. And so it wasn't actually too bad, you know,

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a little break from work.

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And I remember I came back for graduation and I found out that one of my former

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students had died in a drunk driving accident and she wasn't even the driver.

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And I was just like, Oh my God, I can, I can never drink and drive again.

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I can never drink and drive again. You know? And, um, you know,

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but first it was, I was never going to drink again,

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but before I turned the key in the ignition, it was, well,

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I'll just never drink and drive again, you know?

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And then six months later I got my second DUI, you know,

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and I had changed up the people.

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I wasn't hanging out with those people at the circle anymore. You know,

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I was hanging out with other coworkers. Um,

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and I wasn't hanging out at the same places, but I,

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I was still hanging out with me without doing anything.

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And I was ready to do some scandalous things with these coworkers that I used to

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do with all those other people.

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And I was going to have to face them on Monday morning.

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And I remember when I went to the bar that night, I had had a plan.

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My plan was to have one beer and wait it out.

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I was going to just kick it in my car for a few hours. And as soon as I got there,

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I said, Jack and Coke, easy Coke.

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And I didn't even know how it came out of my mouth.

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And as soon as I started drinking, I just knew it was on, you know, I just,

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I'm the type of alcoholic. If you be alcoholic like me, we take a drink.

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And then that's it, you know,

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it's the phenomenon of craving has settled in and I just need more and more and

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more. I can be walking around in the middle of a blackout,

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knocking on the door of the bar, wondering why they won't let me in.

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And it's because it's three o'clock in the morning.

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My body still wants more, even when I am not drunk, you know, and,

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um, doesn't matter who I make the promises to. It doesn't matter.

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It doesn't matter. Um, if I don't do something for me, it's been this,

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unless I do that, I'm going to get drunk again. And then what happened was,

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I still didn't think that I needed to be sober. Actually, you know,

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I was going to the meetings. I started reading the book.

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I heard if he did the first three words on page one 12, your life would change.

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So I bought the book cause I thought three words versus 12 steps.

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I want to see what that is. So I got the book, got mad. I would read the book.

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I would throw it every time I got to the word God or higher power.

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I know you can read all of chapter. Um, I know you can read all of chapter. Oh,

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gosh, chapter three. And, um,

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and then it slips it in on you and like the last page, you know,

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and you're like, ah, throw it across the room. Um, and so I just,

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I just couldn't, I couldn't do the whole God thing. And I,

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I was scared because I had heard that I needed the God thing.

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The club I was going to said that I was screwed, not as nicely, but you know,

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I'm at a podium that I was screwed and I needed God. And, um, and if I,

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and if you didn't have one, you're even more screwed kind of thing.

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And I didn't know that the 12 steps were to lead me to my higher power of my own

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understanding. I didn't hear that part yet. You know, I didn't understand.

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I thought I needed God in order to get sober. I didn't know.

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I just needed to be willing, you know? And so what happened for me is, um,

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a year and a half after that second DUI, um,

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the state of California wanted to see me about my teaching credential.

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I was like, what? It's been a year and a half. You know,

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I thought that was a bit much. Um, at the same time, um,

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the people from like the,

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the drug education classes are coming in and I was scared they were going to be

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able to figure me out. Um, and I just couldn't even like,

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period, you know? Um, I just, I just couldn't, I just felt so miserable.

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I just was constantly thinking about everything bad that I had ever done or that

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was done to me. I thought if this is my life forever,

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I can't, I, I can't live this way. You know? And, um,

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I was typing up the letter to the credential board trying to say what I was

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doing to stay sober. And I realized that whatever I was doing,

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I was not even sober, you know? And, um,

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I had basically that moment of super moment of clarity there and almost a mental

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breakdown because like the letter was due like right then cause that's how I

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work. And so I sent off whatever I did and that's when they said, no,

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we actually need to see in person now.

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And so I had to go up to Sacramento and I just knew that there was no way I was

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going to be able to show up sober.

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There was no way I was going to be able to show up sober. And, um,

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I was trying to stop on my own. And when I tried to stop on my own,

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all of a sudden I wasn't stopped anymore. You know,

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like I couldn't stay stopped and I didn't understand. So like,

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I am college educated. I should be able to figure this out.

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And I finally saw by looking at my own experience that it didn't matter how

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many meetings I was sitting in. Cause I was sitting in meeting after meeting,

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just trying to and hoping that that's all that I needed to do for me.

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Sitting at meeting after meeting was not going to work for me.

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Reading the book alone was not going to work for me.

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I finally heard my God tell me that I was going to have to work the freaking

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steps, you know? And I was like, what? So I went to a few meetings.

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I had seen some people around the rooms changing and growing.

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There was this one person that I had seen when they first came in cause I was

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there not hanging out, you know, and, and she had changed so much.

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And she had this laugh and I don't know about you,

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but I was not laughing anymore.

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I would laugh because everyone was laughing and you're supposed to laugh,

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but it was not like a real laugh, you know? And I wanted to laugh again.

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And I had seen that the people she was working with sponsoring were changing and

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growing and starting to laugh. And I wondered what she had. And, um,

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and she talked about the book,

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like she was talking from the big book because I was reading the book.

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So I knew when people were, you know, speaking from the book and you know,

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she always would say, um, do you want to go on to the bitter end,

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blotting out the intolerable situation as best you can or accept spiritual help,

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you know? And I'd be like, I don't know,

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but it was finally at the point where I was like, I need the help.

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I need the help, you know?

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And so I asked her on a Friday night in the parking lot and she just asked me if

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I was willing to go in any length to stay sober, you know? And I said, yes,

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you know, and she said, um, you know, as she asked me all the things,

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so we, that'd be, you know, ask the new person, um,

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could you believe that there's a God, you know, kind of thing. And she's like,

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well, you're just not God. Can you believe that? You know? And I was like, yeah,

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I can believe that, you know? And, um,

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she told me that what I found in this book would be better than anything I found

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in any bottle or any bag and that it was a guarantee, you know?

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And she told me that I wasn't even taking the steps for me.

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I was taking the steps for the person coming up behind me. And, um, she said,

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but I've, um, I don't know, I, she said a lot of other stuff,

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but those are the ones that stand out the most. And I can tell you that it is

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true. If you take the steps as outlined in that big book with a sponsor,

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your life will change. And for me, um, it's mostly,

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it's a lot of stuff on the outside has changed,

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but the most important stuff is on the inside that has changed.

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Like I do not look at life the way that I used to the way that I react to life

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is not the way that I used to, you know,

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I have definitely had a spiritual experience as a result of taking that to that,

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you know, and the whole God thing is to scare me so much, so much.

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But my first sponsor just told me that it's just a three letter word that we put

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on something that is unknowing, you know, that is indescribable, you know,

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and that's all that it is, you know, use whatever other word you want to use,

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but we tend to use God and I've come to use God as well. You know,

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I used to say higher power for the longest time or my HP, you know, but, uh,

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most of the time I just say God. Um,

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so she launched me into a vigorous course of action. I, she said,

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do you have a pen and paper? And I said, well,

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I got my phone with thinking I was going to put her number and she's all,

20:04

you need to go get a pen and paper, you know? And I was like, okay. You know,

20:07

when he got a pen and paper and she said,

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you need to read these pages every morning, 60 to 63,

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you need to memorize a third step prayer. You need to,

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you think you're a smart one school teacher.

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You can read two chapters a day starting at the doctor's opinion. Um,

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you need to be at a meeting every day. You need to have your hand up.

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And all I want you to say is you're working on a third step and that's it.

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You do not know anything about staying sober. You're there to carry a message of

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solution and that's it, what it is. You're working on your third step.

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And you need to go down to, um, detox and help somebody.

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It's a lot more than a phone number, you know, um, and call her every day.

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And I just started doing it.

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I just started doing it because I did not want my life to living my life the way

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that I was living it anymore. Um,

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so I was actually going off of a fake sobriety date at that point too,

20:52

saying I had like a year and a half.

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I'd even taken a one year chip and all this stuff. And so I left that on her,

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on her voicemail or whatever, might even been a message machine. I'm not sure,

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but I left it for her a couple of days later. And she was like, called me back,

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said, congratulations on your nine days or whatever it was at that point.

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And start picking up that newcomer chip, you know,

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and I remember she was seemed so excited about it and now I can see why she

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probably knew all along. I wasn't really sober, you know? And so, um,

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my God, I tell you like up until today,

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still that first newcomer chip is the one that means the most to me it's because

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I was finally being honest and it just, it touches me to think about all of

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those, like just that braveness that we need to stand up and say,

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I need this help, you know,

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and doing it in front of people that I'd been faking it in front of as well.

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Like that was pretty humbling as I look back on it. And, um,

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I just started doing what she suggested.

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One of the things I would do is write down my number on a little piece of paper

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whenever there was female newcomers and just give it to them. No one called,

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you know what I mean?

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But I was taking the action and going up to them. I would tell people,

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I need to read these chapters. My sponsor's making me read.

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I'll be here early at five 30, you know, for the six o'clock meeting.

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If you want to meet up, you know, knew what I would be there.

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Most people didn't show up, you know,

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but I was there and I was doing the reading and getting to know people and,

22:13

and I just started taking the action and taking the steps and y'all and, um,

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the way I was taken through the steps is my experience.

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There's no right or wrong way in my opinion to take the steps.

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Just take the steps. Right.

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And I don't believe that my God at least is not going to say,

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you took the steps wrong. You know, now you're going to get drunk.

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If I do it honestly and willingly, then that's the best that I can do. Right.

22:35

And so, and I did, I followed her direction.

22:37

I took those steps and she had me working on my first,

22:41

I did my first fifth step at five weeks sober, you know? Oh, actually,

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I got to go up to Sacramento following her direction. Right. So I was, um,

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three weeks sober, two weeks working with her.

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And I went up to the, um, I went up to Sacramento, found them,

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found the meetings beforehand, mapped it out.

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So I knew where I was going when I went there, came back.

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And I remember I drove all the way straight to the meeting that she was at.

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You know, there was only like 30 minutes left of the meeting that Friday night,

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but I showed up because I knew that I needed to be there, you know?

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And she was shocked because of course she was, you know,

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and so I showed up and that's when she put me on my fourth step and she told me

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I had two weeks to write it. And so I sat with it every day. Like she's, um,

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gave me the direction to pray for whatever needed to come up,

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to come up in the willingness to put it down. And I just did.

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And so two weeks later I sat down and I did that fifth step and I felt

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physically hit with the truth about me. Literally.

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I could not believe who I really was. I was shocked. So like,

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I really thought I would, she said,

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do you think you're the innocent little school teacher? Don't you?

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And I was like, oh, see, she gets it. And she's all, you're not, you know,

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I was like, oh, you know,

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and then she like pointed out all the patterns that I couldn't even see.

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And she'd be like, well, didn't you say this over here about that? I'm like,

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uh huh. But what about you? You know? And it didn't come out like that,

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but that's the way I heard it, you know, and it's so true.

23:54

Every time I do an inventory,

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the biggest thing that comes out is what a bill hypocrite I am such a big

24:00

hypocrite expecting everybody to act a certain way when I act the same way or

24:04

worse. Right. And so, um, you know, I took that action.

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I started the six and seven as it's outlined in the book.

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I thought I was going to get a couple of weeks for the eighth step. She said,

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it's a list. You got the weekend, you know? And so I got the weekend.

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And I just started taking those nights, making those nights step of men.

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She said, we don't just surprise people. You need to make an appointment to do it.

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You know? And so I would do that.

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And I remember the one that I made for my mom, I did it at our local Cocos.

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Uh, I remember I had heard from someone else like, you know,

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get on your knees and pray before you make the amends.

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And I went into the bathroom and I was like,

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am I going to get on my knees and pray in this bathroom? And then my God said,

24:41

you got on your knees and puked in that toilet. And I was like, oh, okay.

24:45

I guess I can't get on my knees and pray. And so I did, you know,

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and then I went out and I made that amends and we were crying and,

24:50

and I started noticing people wearing, um, like badges, right.

24:54

And the SoCal convention was happening across the way from that Cocos.

24:58

And that was when, you know, I just totally felt a moment in, um,

25:02

all those God shots,

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especially when you're newly sober that you're looking for that was definitely

25:06

one. Um, and so, you know, some amends went better than others.

25:10

I remember my one brother-in-law was like crying. I'd never seen this man cry.

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He's been my brother, like in my life since I was seven.

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And I had never seen him cry.

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And he was crying over the things I put his kids through that I don't think I

25:24

even brought up, you know,

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or even really put down on my inventory very much as much as it was affecting

25:30

him. You know,

25:30

when he was talking about a time that his kids were waiting on Christmas to open

25:34

up gifts for their aunt Jen to come. And I just didn't, you know,

25:38

for way too late. And so, um, I just couldn't even believe that.

25:44

And I did not want to be that person ever again.

25:46

And that's one of the things about the, um,

25:48

that taking steps or doing any kind of work in Alcoholics Anonymous,

25:52

the more that I do, the more that I have the willingness to do more, you know?

25:56

And so, um, um, you know, I got the,

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the 10 step is the one that promises us we're going to recoil from it as if it's

26:03

a hot flame. I don't know about you, but that's why I'm here, you know,

26:06

so I better make sure that I'm doing that, which I fall short on terribly. Um,

26:10

I have been doing a lot of regular reading,

26:13

but when I first got sober, I was reading certain pages every day. And, um,

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my, I find some reason or another to blame why I can't do that anymore,

26:22

you know? And so I do, um, read and I pray, I definitely pray.

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I pray all day long.

26:28

I was taught from the very beginning to say thy will be done more than you can

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think that I will be done. That will be done. That will be done.

26:35

Once you say it a few times, say it a few more. And the reason is, you know, um,

26:39

our alcohol is in centers in our mind. If this was a bottle of booze,

26:43

it's going to sit there until my mind tells me to pick it up.

26:46

And so what I need to do is stop this. And if I'm saying that I will be done,

26:49

that would be done, that will be done, that will be done.

26:52

You can't think of anything else, you know, try it. You know,

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you can't have more than that thought in your head.

26:57

And so if you're constantly saying that I will be done, then you're, you're,

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you're selfish and self centeredness is not going to take over.

27:03

And that desire, that thought to go and drink is not going to be there,

27:07

you know, just constantly that I will be done. Like I go to a Monday night,

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like I said, I have a home group, it's Belfast, our big book group.

27:13

There's a big speaker meeting on Monday nights and some of those speakers do not

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talk fast enough. They just talk too slowly.

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And so I have to sit there and in between their words,

27:24

I'm literally saying that I will be done because if I'm not,

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I'm not going to be present to listen.

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And I'm also going to just be busy thinking about me. And so, um,

27:33

that will be done constantly.

27:35

And I started helping people from the very beginning by taking, um,

27:38

going down to detox. I was told to do that,

27:40

which is also a form of doing your third step,

27:42

but it's also working on getting started on practicing for that 12 step, you know,

27:47

and I started sponsoring when I had about six months. Um, so, you know,

27:51

life changed a lot since then, you know, that was, you know,

27:54

that was 15 years ago. We're coming up on when I started sponsoring. Um,

27:58

I don't have any sponsors from back then, um, with me,

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we're not trudging the road together. I'm not with the same sponsor. Um,

28:05

at that sponsor, what happened? She, um, made some humongous changes in her life.

28:09

Um, she was switching up all her meetings and she told me that she did not know

28:14

what to tell me when I kept coming to her, she had nothing else to give.

28:17

And so I needed to get a new sponsor and I got very mad.

28:20

I was very resentful. Um, and, um,

28:24

I knew I needed to get a new sponsor.

28:26

So I got this temporary sponsor in between that I didn't really have any

28:28

willingness to do anything with. And everyone kept telling me,

28:30

go check out Bellflower big book group. And I was like, no, definitely not.

28:34

You know, um,

28:34

I checked out if AA was a cult before I got sober and Bellflower big book group

28:38

would show up. And so I was like, no, I'm not going there. You know? Um,

28:42

but as I said, it's my home group, you know, I met up with a person. Um,

28:46

someone had given me my,

28:47

one of my mentors had given me this person's numbers that she knew a lot of

28:50

people in the group.

28:51

So I met up with her and her early sobriety matched up with mine because, um,

28:55

because I used to think if you weren't taking the steps the way I took them,

28:59

then you were doing it wrong. And maybe you tried it my way when I saw you in

29:02

detox, but I did not want to think that way anymore.

29:06

But I also did not know how not to think that way anymore.

29:09

And so the sponsor I got used to think that way and didn't think that way

29:13

anymore. And so I need, I knew I needed her to be my sponsor.

29:16

So I started taking her directions. First, we were just meeting up.

29:19

She said, I just need to see her at one of the meetings once a week.

29:21

She did not tell me to come up to Bellflower,

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but after meeting with her for a few months, she kept telling me, I just,

29:28

I just keep hearing, come to Bellflower, come to Monday night,

29:31

come to Monday night.

29:32

And I realized that what she was hearing was her God consciousness from

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within. And why was I trying to fight this God consciousness?

29:40

And so I just did it, you know, totally unwillingly,

29:45

but I knew my life was on the line just as much as it was when I first got

29:49

sober. So I just started going, you know, and I was not happy.

29:53

I felt all types of feelings, mostly self-centered fear.

29:57

I did not want to get out of my seat,

29:59

but I would try to find someone who looked a little more scared than I was and

30:01

go over and talk to them, you know, and put out my hand, um, and,

30:05

and do the things. Um, my, I don't know what else is my,

30:09

some good experience to share. So, um,

30:11

I was always looking for, it seemed like I was always looking for the,

30:16

the him and I was not very good at that. Um, I was deaf.

30:20

I was terrible at it, honestly. I don't even know what I was doing. Um,

30:23

I never had any experience with it. Um, and fast forward,

30:27

I realized I wasn't really looking for a partner.

30:29

I was just looking for someone to make babies with that's the truth, you know,

30:32

cause that's what I wanted. I wanted a family. And so, um, that's,

30:35

that's what I really wanted, but it was not happening. It was not working out.

30:39

So, um, I finally decided that I was going to try it on my own, you know,

30:44

and I reached out to my sponsor about it and she said, let's go for it.

30:47

And so I did the first step, which was freezing eggs. Okay.

30:49

And then I waited to see if God and his wife's wisdom would play someone in

30:53

front of me to do this together with, which they didn't.

30:56

So I tried it and it didn't work and I was devastated, devastated.

31:00

And for the next year going to baby showers, when it didn't work for me,

31:04

I was mad and resentful and distanced myself from my sponsor and my

31:08

sponsor said, what is going on?

31:11

And what I finally was able to tell her is every time I see what these things

31:14

and you say, hi, how are you? And I just say, fine and walk away.

31:17

I'm ready to break down and lose it. And so we were able to get honest with,

31:22

I was able to get honest with her and you know,

31:25

we were able to walk through that thing. God, she's still my sponsor today,

31:28

you know? And so I decided to try again.

31:30

I decided that the regret of not trying again was worse than the fear

31:35

of walking through the letdown.

31:37

And so I tried again and I have my five year old waiting for me at home,

31:41

you know, it worked. Um, it doesn't always, but with science and you know,

31:45

walk, it worked and I decided I wanted to try again and everyone thought it was

31:50

crazy. You know, with my first,

31:51

I ended up having to be hospitalized after having him five years ago,

31:55

right around this time.

31:56

Cause my I ended up having super high blood pressure preeclampsia and everyone

32:00

from the home group stepped up and kept me company in that hospital with my new

32:03

baby. Um, it was amazing. And when I think about it and um,

32:06

I tried again and I also have a three and a half year old waiting for me at

32:09

home. So that, um, I would many nights,

32:12

I would love to use that as an excuse to not do these things. To be honest,

32:15

it would be much easier to stay home, stay cozy, go to sleep.

32:18

This is way past my bedtime. You know,

32:20

they're already sleeping and usually I am too. Um,

32:22

but I know my life depends on it. You know, my five year old was like,

32:26

I just wish you could stay, you know, and I was like, you know,

32:29

that I go to these so I can be a better mom, you know,

32:32

so I can be a better work or, you know, um, my,

32:35

my little girl goes and be a better friend or something, you know? And I said,

32:38

yeah, you guys don't want me growly. I need to come here.

32:41

So I'm not growly so that we can keep doing this thing. And then, you know,

32:45

the babysitter says, you know,

32:46

and my mom goes to these meetings and all types of things like that.

32:49

And I'm trying to teach this, uh, the, the spirit of the steps to my kids.

32:53

So they're not just saying, they're sorry. They're saying,

32:55

what can I do to make it better? You know,

32:57

he's already written a couple of men's letters to his teachers and we do it to

33:01

each other. We try to take breaks though. This has been a little serious.

33:04

I'm trying to use that one on them lately. You know,

33:06

I need to go take a breather,

33:07

sit on the top step when the things are getting a little crazy in the mornings

33:10

as we're trying to get ready for school. And, um, you know, it's rough.

33:14

It's rough. It's, um, it's rough trying to live this everywhere.

33:18

You know, but it was so much more rough with a drink in my mouth. Right.

33:22

You know,

33:22

and it was so much worse without the drink trying to keep it out of my

33:27

face and going back to it and just being in that constant insanity,

33:31

constant insanity. So, um, you know,

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if you are stuck in that deep dark hole,

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we know what it's like and we know that there is a way out.

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We've been there. So if you are ready to get out of that deep dark hole,

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grab ahold of someone who's been there and can show you the way. Thank you.