Brian's Journey: From Early Alcohol Exposure to 31 Years Sober
S24:E14

Brian's Journey: From Early Alcohol Exposure to 31 Years Sober

Episode description

Brian shares how early encounters with alcohol and a challenging childhood led him to AA, where he found lasting sobriety since 1992. He reflects on the support of his sponsor, his group, and the transformative power of the program.

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- My name's Brian, I'm an alcoholic.

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- Hi Brian.

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- I'm truly grateful to be here

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in this medium of Alcoholics Anonymous.

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I absolutely love Alcoholics Anonymous.

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I tell you, Alcoholics Anonymous does for me slowly

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what alcohol used to do for me quickly.

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When I sat down here tonight,

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I was like, it was one of those days.

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I hope there's a good speaker tonight, I really do.

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I'd like to thank Ben for having me come out.

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I'd like to thank Dave for referring me.

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My sponsor, I have a sponsor.

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I have a home group, it's USR Group.

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My sobriety date is September 17th, 1992.

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It's not my first sobriety date,

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and today I hope it's my last.

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Like I said, I love Alcoholics Anonymous.

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It's the greatest thing that's ever happened to me.

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And I can tell you, 31 years ago

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when I walked into rooms of Alcoholics Anonymous,

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you would have told me, I love Alcoholics Anonymous.

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I told you, you lost your mind.

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I thought it was the worst thing that happened to me.

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I thought my life was over.

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Coffee cups and people dressed in suits.

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I got sober in Pacific group.

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People dressed like this regularly.

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And these aren't my people, that's the police.

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You know, and I'm a daily drinker.

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I'm not a binger.

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Once I start, something's gotta stop.

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You know, I needed a drink at birth.

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I had to wait until I was two.

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And I don't remember anything about it.

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But when I came to my mother, 24, 25 years, no, she's 24.

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I came to her and said, I've been drinking every day

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for the last 10 years, I need help.

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I've been using drugs every day for the last eight years.

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I need help.

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And she goes, I knew you were an alcoholic at the age of two.

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And I looked at her puzzle.

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She goes, the lady offered you a glass, a sip of wine.

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She walked out of the room and you downed the glass.

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She walked back in, saw her glass was empty,

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refilled it, walked out, I downed it again.

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And apparently I continued to do it until I passed out

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and she had to carry me home.

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And that's at two.

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Now I didn't say that there.

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I'm sure I wasn't saying, damn, I wanna get drunk tonight.

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You know, I just had a natural attraction to alcohol.

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When I was three, four years old, I get sick

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and my mom would make me a hot toddy.

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Now I can't tell you what's in a hot toddy.

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But all I know is I was sick a lot, you know?

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And I learned at a young age,

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never tell doctors what you're thinking.

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'Cause I did that at age seven.

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And what happened was the way that,

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actually it was age six.

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And what happened was when I was four years old,

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I cut off my thumb.

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They sewed it back on though.

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And when I was five, right before we were in kindergarten,

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I broke my arm.

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Well, the neighbors broke my arm for me,

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but that's another story.

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And so I would have to sit on the bench in first grade

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with my, in my sling with my cast.

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And all the kids were on the jungle gym having fun.

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I wanted to go on the jungle gym.

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Now kids are cool,

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especially I was smaller than everybody else.

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And they would pick on me.

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And so they would make fun of me

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because I couldn't go on the jungle gym

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and everyone else in the class could.

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'Cause that was the big thing.

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When you're in kindergarten and go to first grade

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and you get to go on the big field

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and they're sliding down the pole

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and I wanted to slide down the pole.

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I wasn't allowed to.

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I'm just sitting there on the bench on recess every day.

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And as I'm sitting there,

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I decided one day to get up and go up there.

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Teacher starts blowing her whistle.

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I started sliding down the pole.

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All the kids are going, "Go, go, go, go."

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And I'm going down the pole.

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Teacher's screaming at me.

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'Cause I'm not supposed to be on the pole.

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Get down the pole.

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Teacher grabs me by the ear,

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drags me to the nurse's office,

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drags me to the principal.

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Next thing you know,

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I'm in the doctor's office being put on red light.

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And it made me shake.

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So now kids are picking on me more.

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And so by the time I was nine years old,

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there's these older kids on the block

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and they were drinking beer and they were, you know,

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had cool cars called lowriders.

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People were scared of them.

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They weren't getting picked on.

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And if I knew if I'd come part of,

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I won't get picked on either.

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Plus they're drinking beer like grownups

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and I want to be a grownup.

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And I remember we snuck upstairs

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and they were, their older brothers were selling wheat.

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And they, this is back in the seventies when it was lids.

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Some of you older folks remember lids.

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And for $10, you get a big bag of damn seeds

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and good old Colombian gold.

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And I rolled this, we were rolling up these joints.

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We're little kids, so they look a little bit like,

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sort of like that little tiny joint,

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Cheech broke out and Cheech and Chong, you know,

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it was all cricket and little.

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And Chong starts laughing at them.

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Well, that's the joint and I'm smoking it.

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And they gave me a tall can of Budweiser.

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I'm sitting there and I'm like going to lay, you know,

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and I think I'm cool.

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So next thing they do is they, you know,

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if you want to become a part of it,

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they beat you up for a certain amount of time.

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And that's what they did.

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And then they told me they loved it.

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So I got a, I was wearing tough skins

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and it's hard to look cool in marooned tough skin.

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But I got my first pair of Levi's.

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And back then they were, I had really skinny legs.

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So they were super baggy and I'd freeze them puppies.

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And I only had one pair.

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So I wore them every day and they got kind of funky.

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But I was going to school, my white t-shirt,

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my hush puppies, I'm thinking I'm cool.

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And I'm trying to straighten my curly hair,

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combing it back and I'm going to school.

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And someone said, where are you from?

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And I told them, I got beat up.

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I'm like, this isn't working out.

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So I go back, I'm going to take a different way home.

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I get beat up again.

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And so I go tell my homeboys what's going on.

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And they said, why didn't you,

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why did you let them beat you up?

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And they beat me up.

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And I go, this isn't working out.

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And so what happened was, you know,

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we're sitting there, we were drinking when we could

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and get high when we could and do little things.

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I'm 10, 11 years old.

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And I met this one kid.

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He was tough, really tough for the same gang.

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And people were scared of him.

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He would beat people up for us and it was all good.

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And then one day he's working on his brother's car

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and this other gang came by and kicked out the jack

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and crushed his head.

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And I knew at 12 years old that I can get,

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that guy died and got killed that easily.

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And he was that tough.

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My wussy fell.

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This is not gonna work.

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And at the same time,

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my friends got me involved in all this.

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The whole family, you know,

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knew they were gang banging and moved them all to Mexico.

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And so I was there by myself.

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And so skateboarding was coming out since the '70s,

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mid '70s now and got a skateboard.

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First, you know, tail tap, kryptonic wheels,

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urethane tires are out and I'm skateboarding

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and the skate parks opened and I'm skating away.

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And I had this other friend, came up to me, my best friend.

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He goes, I found this money.

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And we go up to his uncle's house and there's this drawer.

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He pulls it out and there's stacks

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and stacks and stacks of cash.

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They were telling him, I don't know what they were doing,

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but they had money.

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And we take 20s and 50s, they never knew.

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And we had new skateboards and bicycles.

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We'd buy butt every day.

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And I'm 13 years old now and it's summertime

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and we're smoking a joint and we're all good.

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And we were talking about something happened day before.

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And his sister goes, look at you.

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And I didn't know what the hell she was talking about.

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Didn't remember what happened, what she was talking about.

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And she goes, you're 13 years old

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and you're already forgetting stuff.

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What are you gonna be like

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when you're 18 smoking that stuff?

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Scared the hell out of me.

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I'm never gonna get high again, I'm not gonna drink again.

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Now, I tell you when I leave tonight,

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I'm not gonna drink and I'm not gonna get off.

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I am as confident as I possibly can be.

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Because for 31 years, I have not taken a drink.

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I was that confident that day

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that I was never gonna drink and never gonna use again.

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I quit smoking cigarettes, I quit everything.

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And within three months, what happened was,

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my neighbor came over.

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They're kind of watching me from my parents'

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sort of Christmas shopping, it's December.

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And they were drinking Bacardi and Coke.

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I was at their house and they're grownups

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and I wanted to be a grownup.

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Yeah, I drink Bacardi and Coke, I drink it down.

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And I remember this like it was yesterday.

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I remember sitting in my, going back home to my house.

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My parents not home, watching football on a Saturday.

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College, it was December,

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it was some minor bowl game or something,

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right before Christmas.

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And I thought, if that much alcohol made me feel that good,

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how much would a lot of alcohol make me feel like?

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And I walked into the kitchen.

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In that kitchen was fifths of different kinds of alcohol.

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My mom's an alcoholic.

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I say that because she drank every day of her frickin' life.

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And I grabbed a clear bottle.

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Now the Bacardi and Coke burned when it went down.

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But when I grabbed that clear bottle, which was vodka,

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I went back on, so then I grabbed the gin

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and did the same thing.

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I grabbed the tequila, did the same thing.

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By the time I got to the fourth bottle,

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I started stumbling backwards when I tried to put it back.

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Now I felt cool and I wanted to show 'em how shrunk I was.

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So I'm all proud, stumbling back to them.

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And I hear one go, "Look at me, he's drunk."

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And the other one goes, "No, he's not drunk.

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"He's just faking, we just gave him one drink."

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Goes, "No, look at him, he's messed up."

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And I'm looking at 'em, I'm kinda like, you know,

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swaying a little bit there.

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And one of 'em trips me just because they have fun

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with the drunk kid.

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Boom, I go down, I get up, they do it again.

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But they soon realize that they're supposed to be watching

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me and my mom's gonna be home soon.

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Now they're panicking.

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Now I remember being put in a shower.

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I remember coming out of the shower and throwing up.

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I remember them giving me coffee and throwing up.

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I remember them being put back in the shower.

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I remember their sister screaming at me,

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their mother screaming at me.

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My mother's screaming at them.

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Their mother's screaming at my mother.

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Everyone's screaming at everybody.

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And what's happening is I'm going in and out of a blackout

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over a two-day period.

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And I can tell you, I used to take mushrooms.

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Love the mushrooms.

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When I was 16 years old,

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I decided to start doing everything.

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And I took these mushrooms,

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and I was on top of the Dover Building,

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and they're filming a movie called Blue Thunder.

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Some of you might have remembered it.

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It's about a police helicopter.

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Well, we didn't know they were filming Blue Thunder.

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All I saw was four helicopters,

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bright lights everywhere,

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and I swore aliens were landing 'cause I was peaking.

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I took off running down the street as my friend,

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and he was running after me, and I swore

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I was never gonna take mushrooms again.

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Just take acid.

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Took eight hits of two hits of four-way black dragon,

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which equals eight hits.

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I was playing with shredded money,

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throwing it in the air, watching the trail.

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Started coming out of the wall.

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It started attacking me.

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I stopped taking acid.

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I used to smoke PCP in high school, 12th grade.

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My boys would come get me and show a pass to the teacher

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or say, "I gotta go to the dean's office,"

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and we'd go straight to my car

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and go score down in South LA.

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One day, I smoked three sherms and a super cool,

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or actually three super cools and a sherm,

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and cars are making laps, cars are making rides,

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cars are stopping, cars are going.

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It became a car honked its horn,

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and that was just way too much to handle.

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I ran and hit under my car for three hours

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as people in school would look under the car

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and point at me and laugh.

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I stopped PCP that day.

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But at 13 years of age, when I almost died

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of alcoholic poisoning,

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the only thing that came to my mind was,

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"Next time, I just won't mix it."

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And that's what makes me an alcohol.

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Alcohol went with everything.

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Going to the movies, a little bit there.

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A little bottle, a little half pint, 151.

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Movie's better.

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If I'm going to a keg party,

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I gotta bring a six-pack and sit in my car

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and drink down that six-pack before I go into the party.

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If I'm going somewhere on a date,

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I gotta be in a blackout practically.

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I'm scared to death, but alcohol takes away that fear.

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And when I was 16 years old, I made a conscious decision.

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People in high school started trying to figure out

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what they're gonna do in life.

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Go to college, join the military.

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Mine, I wanna be a stoner.

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I wanna party.

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I'm gonna party for the rest of my life.

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And the way that all came about,

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'cause I was in 10th grade,

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I was still trying to be good

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'cause I was still getting over

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and freaking almost drinking myself to death,

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and I'm trying to put it together and do the right things

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in case you'll drink here, in case you'll drink there.

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And a friend of mine said,

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"I found the greatest thing in the world,

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"and I'm coming over, picking you up in 20 minutes."

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Went up the mall, broke out a bindle.

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They go, "This is Peruvian flake."

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Broke out lines, and I did 'em.

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And I didn't really enjoy it,

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but for some reason after that, I started praying for it.

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I literally, "God, please let me get cocaine today."

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And the great thing about cocaine is you can drink.

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It goes so well with it.

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It goes perfect, 'cause you could drink longer.

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You don't get binge, you don't get sick.

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You can just drink.

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You have a hangover, you do a line, you can have a drink,

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and then you're good to go the next day,

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'cause I'm a daily drinker.

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And so I did that until I was about 90 pounds.

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And what happened was I was getting out of control.

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It really was.

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It was just, I was smoking it now on a daily basis,

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and things are going on.

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And I moved out to, moved to Las Vegas

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for my first attempt.

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And the reason I went to Vegas

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is because, one, my partner in construction,

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he was moving to Vegas.

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The other was, at the time,

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it was a felony just to have a seed of pot,

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and it was five years they were giving people.

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I don't know that anybody actually got five years for a seed,

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but that's what I was told when I went there.

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And so I didn't do any cocaine in Vegas.

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But what I did do, my mom gave me an American Express card.

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And every single day that I was there,

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I'd buy a case of beer on my way home from work.

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And every day I would need to buy another case,

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'cause I just pound beers until I go to sleep.

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And some nights we would go out to Sam's Club Casino,

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and I would sit there at the nickel slots

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and drink White Russians, love White Russians.

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And so what I realize now, when I was able to get sober,

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because a lot of times,

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'cause when I came here and weighing 95 pounds at then,

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drugs seemed to be the bigger problem,

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but alcohol was the root.

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Alcohol is what caused everything else to happen,

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all the spiraling that came out of control.

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So once I realized that, it helped me stay sober.

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Because when I first came into the 12 step program,

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I went to CA first.

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Never could stay sober.

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I came into Alcoholics Anonymous and couldn't stay sober.

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Our 10 minute speaker, he did a great job.

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I too, chronic relapser, he said he 10, I'm at 15.

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My first sponsor would tell me go home and get,

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in this sobriety, would tell me go home and get your chips,

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we need to play a poker game.

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And what happened for me was, I was with this girl,

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she was dealing, and we would party together.

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And one day, she went to go score, and she went upstairs.

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I'm in my car, still up there, still up there.

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Bitch is getting hot, I'm cussing.

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She's still up there, I'm tired of coming down.

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20 minutes, 30 minutes.

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Oh, that's messed up.

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I'm going home, pissed off.

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I get home, phone rings, it's her.

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About an hour later, click call, civil brand.

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She went up there, and DEA opened the door,

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and just snatched her up and arrested.

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That's why she was stuck up there.

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Now, it's just another day in the life.

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I've been arrested, my friends have been arrested.

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I've been shot at nine times.

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I've been twice held at gunpoint torture,

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begging for, trying to figure that last sentence,

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that one sentence that will stop them from killing me.

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And I didn't think much of this, but when she got out,

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she said, "Yeah, my celly's getting out tomorrow.

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"We need to go pick her up."

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I said, "I'm not picking her up.

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"You're lucky I picked you up."

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And she goes, "No."

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I said, "No, we're not doing it."

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So now, our next day, we're at my house,

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and we're partying in my bedroom, and phone rings,

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it's her, and she had a eighth of cocaine

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and a case of beer.

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I don't know about any of you,

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but I couldn't get in my car fast enough.

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I was in love.

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She had what I needed.

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And she came to my house, and I lived at my parents' house,

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and so I moved her in.

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And she was the first girl I met that drank like I did.

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We would fight over that last beer on a six pack.

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And we would argue all the time about going to go,

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how to pull scams and get, she was great.

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And then one day, her friends took her away,

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and I was devastated.

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And I said a prayer, "God, please help me."

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And a voice came in my head, "Sure, make your life better."

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That's when I went to my mother,

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and told her I'd been using drugs for eight,

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drinking for 10, and needed help.

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And she went into a rehab, absolutely miserable,

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hated it, but I loved being sober.

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First time I ever had more than three days and years,

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I had to be in jail for that.

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And I felt good, and I got my 60-day chip.

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I remember I got my 30-day chip.

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When I got my 30-day chip, I remember 10 years before that,

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my friend got out of rehab, got a 30-day chip,

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and showed it to me, and I laughed at it,

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and go, "Who can't get 30 days?"

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There I am 10 years later, finally getting a 30-day chip.

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And what happened was, she came back, I left the rehab,

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but I wasn't gonna drink, and I wasn't gonna use,

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just like I tell you I'm not going to the rehab.

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And what happened was, she, one day, after I got 60 days,

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and I had 64 days to be exact, she goes,

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"You have 64 days, you can drink just one."

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And there's three of us, and we got a six pack.

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Now, I'm not a mathematical genius,

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but I do know if I drink two before you drink one,

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I get three.

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Simple, man.

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But I said I was gonna drink two.

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Now, I never tried this before, controlling my drinking.

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You know, drinking just two is something you tell the police,

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it's not something you do.

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And I'm sitting there, looking, just, they're talking,

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they're having, me and my girlfriend and a friend,

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my friend, are having a conversation.

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I'm thinking about these tricks,

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but I'm down my first one, I'm on my second,

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trying to get that second down.

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They're alcoholics, too, and I didn't pull it off.

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And I remember my skin was falling.

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But I'm gonna, I control them.

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I only drink two.

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Buddy of mine got out of the Army the next, that day,

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and said, you know, I told him I don't party no more.

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He goes, "You can have one."

15:38

I said, "Yeah, I had two today."

15:40

So, yeah, I could do that.

15:41

We went to the bar, we spent $260 at the bar,

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$480 at the crack house.

15:46

The sun's coming up, the birds are screaming,

15:48

and there I am, hiding behind a curtain

15:50

in a motel room, going, "Shh," once again.

15:53

And I went in and out of alcoholics anonymous.

15:56

I wanted to be sober, I got a sponsor.

15:58

I called them occasionally.

16:00

I got commitments, and once in a while,

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I actually did them, but I'd go out.

16:03

I get about 30 days, I go insane.

16:05

I am restless, irritable, and discontent.

16:07

And the longer I'm sober, the more I hate you.

16:09

The longer I'm sober is I want to murder someone.

16:12

I can't live like this.

16:14

And I got to the point where I could no longer live sober,

16:16

and I could no longer live drunk,

16:18

and I decided I'm gonna end it all.

16:20

And I went to a friend's house to get a gun

16:21

to blow my brains out, and he wasn't home.

16:23

I figured, you know what,

16:24

I'm gonna go get a 12 back and a 20.

16:26

Once again, the sun's coming up, the birds are screaming,

16:28

and what am I gonna do, and I call my sponsor.

16:30

And he met me with me, and now I have three days.

16:34

I'm at the Friday Night Men's Stag Pacific Group,

16:36

in this guy with hair that looked like one of the Smurfs.

16:39

He stood straight up, about five feet tall,

16:42

gay as can be, the opposite of any human being

16:44

I'd ever even speak to.

16:45

He looked at me and said, "You're gonna die."

16:47

And he walked away.

16:48

He walked up to me again and said,

16:49

"You're gonna die," and walked away.

16:51

So he started walking towards me again.

16:52

I'm just gonna sock him in the mouth.

16:54

That's my plan.

16:54

Now, he said something to me that I will never forget,

16:57

and it's a secret I was never gonna tell anybody.

16:59

He said, "I will walk you out of the gates of hell,

17:02

"but I will not walk back there with you."

17:04

See, I swore that I'd died and gone to hell,

17:07

and hell was here on earth.

17:09

And I'm picking up the tab

17:10

for something I did horrifically in a previous life.

17:12

I thought of myself as the biggest piece of crap there was.

17:15

And the truth of the matter was, I am.

17:18

I was.

17:18

And I said, "How?

17:19

"How are you gonna do this?"

17:20

He said, "I'm gonna take you to the Big Book alcohol tonight

17:23

"and just come to my house tonight.

17:24

"We'll play Scrabble, and we'll talk about it."

17:26

So me and him, these two lesbians,

17:29

went to his house, played Scrabble.

17:30

And we sit down, and he said,

17:32

"Now, whatever you do, don't lie,

17:34

"'cause we always can tell when a newcomer's lying,

17:36

"their lips are moving."

17:37

(laughing)

17:39

And so the first thing I did was make up a word

17:41

that didn't exist to put on the Scrabble board,

17:43

and I got 'em.

17:45

I said, "You know, it's right here in the dictionary."

17:47

Kid, look.

17:47

"Okay, we bullied you."

17:49

And I'm thinking, "You have to change it.

17:49

"You can tell when a newcomer's lying, huh?"

17:52

'Cause that's just one thing.

17:54

When I was under,

17:55

well, I never got convicted of a felony.

17:56

I was good at it.

17:58

Sobriety, I can't lie at all.

17:59

My first year of sobriety, go to your yard, Clancy's house,

18:02

and whenever I tell a lie,

18:03

my sponsor would make me go up to that person and go,

18:05

"You just lied to him.

18:06

"Go up to him and apologize and tell him that you lied."

18:09

And I got tired of doing that, and I stopped lying.

18:11

And what would happen in the beginning

18:13

when I would tell the truth,

18:14

my stomach would hurt, the nervous feeling.

18:15

But then, eventually, it stopped hurting

18:18

when I told the truth.

18:19

It started hurting when I would tell a lie,

18:21

and my life was starting to change

18:22

through the steps of Alcoholics Anonymous.

18:24

No, I would hear the speaker talk about writing letters

18:27

to her father, and I'm sure I'm not gonna be that.

18:29

I put my parents through hell.

18:31

I did have police kick in the door.

18:34

I've come home with bullet holes through my car.

18:37

They've seen me run out the door

18:38

after people with baseball bats.

18:40

They've seen me hit people with sticks.

18:41

They've seen gunshots where I'm diving.

18:44

It got to the point where my mom knew what, collect call,

18:47

what county jail was calling,

18:49

'cause back then, they had their own operators in the '80s.

18:52

And she'd go, "Oh, it's wayside,"

18:53

'cause of my friends when they get locked up with common.

18:56

When my mother died, eight years of sobriety in my arms,

18:59

she told me how proud she was of me, how much she loved me,

19:02

how she wouldn't trade me with anyone else.

19:03

What a great son I am.

19:05

And that's because of alcohol, it's anonymous.

19:06

My father died during COVID.

19:08

His entire family called me and said,

19:10

"What a wonderful father, what a wonderful son I was."

19:12

How good care, how I took good care of my father.

19:15

'Cause he, the reason I live in the valley now

19:17

is because of him.

19:18

He had open heart surgery

19:19

and I had to bring him somewhere flat.

19:21

So I got a house on the valve.

19:22

Before I moved him in, when I was about 13 years sober,

19:26

because he wasn't able to take care of himself anymore,

19:29

'cause he had dementia.

19:30

And when he moved in with me,

19:31

I believe he was like a stupid teenager by the time

19:33

he passed away, it was like he was a three month old baby.

19:36

And I lived through it with all that with him

19:38

because of Alcoholics Anonymous.

19:39

You know, everything I achieved in life,

19:41

everything I have is 'cause of Alcoholics Anonymous.

19:44

A lot of people say, and I hear it all the time,

19:46

"I gotta take care of my family.

19:47

"I gotta take care of you, I gotta go get a job."

19:50

I recently changed careers.

19:52

Today, I had a busy day, I was supposed to.

19:55

I was asked to speak.

19:56

I immediately dropped everything for this

19:59

because Alcoholics Anonymous is the most important thing

20:01

in my life.

20:02

I don't say no, if I wanna do it or don't wanna do it,

20:04

does it, it's not in the equation.

20:06

If someone comes up to me and asks me something,

20:08

I will do it, you know.

20:10

I got Luis staying with us, he's probably the best.

20:13

And I've had, when I got divorced after my first marriage,

20:17

I was devastated.

20:18

And what I did was got really active in Alcoholics Anonymous

20:21

and I moved a bunch of newcomers in with me.

20:23

I had three in the backyard,

20:25

I had two on my floor in the living room,

20:27

I had other bedrooms and I didn't do it to make money.

20:30

It wasn't a profit thing.

20:31

If you had 20 bucks, great.

20:32

If you had no money, great.

20:33

Whatever you need, you need food.

20:35

Here, I never locked my doors.

20:36

Any newcomer could walk in.

20:38

Anyone in Alcoholics Anonymous is welcome in the house.

20:41

And I can tell you how the countless people,

20:42

I can't even put in, so many,

20:43

I can't even put a number on it.

20:45

He's by far the quietest.

20:46

You know, in fact, I was thinking about it.

20:48

You know, I've sponsored many, many people

20:51

in Alcoholics Anonymous.

20:52

I had one guy, I got him to 30 days.

20:55

I said, "We're taking a chip tonight."

20:56

I said, "No, I got 30 days and I'm taking the day out."

21:00

And I said, "Dude, you gotta come to the meeting tonight."

21:02

37 minutes later, he was arrested.

21:04

Left my house and got arrested, 37 minutes later.

21:07

Came to my house the following Monday,

21:09

which is a little bail slip.

21:10

Said, "Damn man, you were right."

21:12

Yeah.

21:13

I had another guy actually literally sentenced to me

21:17

from Missouri, suspended 10 year sentence.

21:20

All he had to do was work at Rhinotech

21:22

and live at my house and go to seven meetings a week.

21:24

Simple task, that's better in 10 years, right?

21:27

Not to him.

21:28

He goes, he got about 45 days and goes,

21:30

"Dude, I just can't do it, I need to get high."

21:32

And I say, "You know what's gonna happen if you get high?"

21:34

And I'm driving, he left the house, I'm driving.

21:37

I see him hiding behind a tree 'cause he sees me,

21:40

like creeping, and I shake my head.

21:42

I don't see him again, then 10 years later,

21:44

I'm at the Wednesday night meeting

21:46

and he comes walking up to me, "Remember me?"

21:48

I go, "Yeah, where you been?"

21:50

Prison in Missouri.

21:52

Another guy, I told him to take a commitment

21:54

at Thursday night.

21:55

I go, he wouldn't do it, he didn't show up at Friday.

21:59

Saturday, I go speak at Twin Towers

22:00

and he's freaking sweeping in blues.

22:03

I go, "What happened?"

22:03

He goes, "I should've took the commitment."

22:05

You know, I have seen, done so much

22:08

because of alcoholics, and I've just been able to travel,

22:10

have an amazing life with an amazing life, you know?

22:14

Louis says, "You've been with me, do we fight?"

22:16

No, 'cause of alcoholics, and I'm just like,

22:17

"Well, like, we've been together for, what is it,

22:20

20 years now?"

22:21

So we're trying to snap every now and then,

22:23

but it's just natural.

22:24

But I love her more now than I did 20 years ago.

22:27

She's the best thing that ever happened to me.

22:29

And the amazing part about her,

22:30

I'm gonna tell this quick story and then I'll be done,

22:32

is I used to party with her brother.

22:34

Her brother's now schizophrenic.

22:36

He, her brother was, he's just a bumbling idiot.

22:39

He was back then, but I was a bumbling idiot.

22:41

It got so bad for me that I was too low of a companion

22:44

to even hang out with him.

22:45

She wouldn't have anything to do with me, literally.

22:49

Like, just look at me in disguise.

22:51

Flash forward 'til I'm 13 years sober

22:53

and she's in love with me.

22:54

How does that happen?

22:55

Alcoholics anonymous.

22:56

Alcoholics anonymous is absolutely the greatest thing

23:01

that's ever happened to me in my life.

23:03

And I guarantee each and every one of you,

23:05

if you make alcoholics anonymous

23:07

the most important thing in your life,

23:08

within a year's time, you'll say,

23:10

alcoholics anonymous is the greatest thing

23:12

that's ever happened to you.

23:13

Thank you.