Yuko's Journey: From Japanese Roots to Global AA Community
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Yuko's Journey: From Japanese Roots to Global AA Community

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Yuko, a 27-year sober member of AA, shares her experience navigating childhood challenges, cultural isolation, and family dynamics in Japan. She celebrates the growth of bilingual AA meetings, her sponsorship work, and the supportive global network that has transformed her recovery.

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My name is Yuko Manakapale, Ben thank you for your invitation, I hope you feel better

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and thank you so much for being so nice to me, you guys are so friendly and kind and

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I drove from Redondo Beach so I was like it's raining, you know, oh my gosh I would rather

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stay home and I go I have to drive to the valley but then like I mean this is it's funny

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I'm still okay my sobriety date is November 20th 1996 so I have 27 years you know but

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still I'm still an alcoholic, but as soon as I just walked in this I love this room

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it's so I mean it's just I feel at home you know so thank you so much for welcoming me

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and being so kind to me thank you so much and I'm sorry I didn't get it anyone who's

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new no anyone who's in your first year sure yeah okay well welcome welcome to Alcoholics

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Anonymous and so Ben thanks again for the honor and privilege oh so Mariana oh my gosh

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you are amazing I mean she told my story I'm not exaggerating she told my story so you

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really don't need to hear me seriously I was like oh my gosh me too me too me too so but

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I guess I will share since I drove all the way no so anyway okay so I I mean can you

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tell that I'm Japanese my name is Yuko so and I surprisingly I made another Japanese

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selfie right nice to meet you and when I got sober I thought I was the only Japanese alcoholic

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like in this entire world I didn't see any Japanese people in AA so like okay I guess

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I'm not an alcoholic you know but now like it's Tadashi there's Tomo and actually thanks

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to the pandemics I got connected to Japan four years ago and I sponsor a bunch of people

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in Japan and Sophie I'm gonna invite you I run a couple of two weekly Japanese bilingual

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meeting so on zoom and last summer I went to Japan and we started a new group and we

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had a conference and I'm going there next month for the second conference and with my

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sponsor and my grand sponsor they decided to help me and they're gonna speak for Japan

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and it's it's been just it's so exciting it's just amazing you know so um okay so I I'm

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sure I I thought I would run out of time to talk about that so I just wanted to mention

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that thanks to AA and this AA community and the connection it's just phenomenal you know

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you don't get this anywhere else so I'm so grateful and thanks again for your incredible

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share it was very touched and so okay so I was born and raised in Japan so um Japan was

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my problem um yes actually I was I was my problem but I was I won't get into um oh and

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Kristin Kristin good to see you Kristin's my grand sponsor and she's heard me so many

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times but she's like Yuko I'm gonna log on my head is busy so like really okay so but

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she heard uh Mariana so that was wonderful oh so I adore her she helps me with uh the

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Japanese meetings it's just so much work to run by bilingual meetings Kristin knows that

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um so anyway so I was uh my childhood was very uneventful I was just so miserable very

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very painfully shy I'm the fourth of five children two brothers and two sisters I was

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embarrassed to have so many siblings because none of my friends have that many siblings

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I knew I was different the problem of being Japanese actually problem of living in Japan

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is that 99% of people around your Japanese and I didn't fit in that was my problem you

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know I was like an anti uh Japanese Japanese living in Japan you know born and raised and

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I I just was just very weird and I knew I was different and people thought mentioned

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I was different um I couldn't sit still I was daydreaming um and my brother I have two

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brothers but younger older brother is six years older than me and he was an overachiever

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he was just a you know student president he was a straight-A student and he was a pitcher

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on his high school baseball team baseball is huge in Japan and he was so popular with

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girls and all that and he used to tell me Yuko you're an embarrassment you know I wish

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you were not my sister and that you are just stupid you know ugly and you will be single

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for the rest of your life because nobody will want you and I was probably seven or eight

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when he told me that and yeah but good news is that he and I I mean I'm not single no

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but anyway so yeah you know I have kids you know so and but he and I my brother and I

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he is the sweetest brother sweetest and it's all because of the steps there's no doubt

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and he actually lives in Palos Verdes and we um I actually turned 60 a couple weeks

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ago and he um he's a gourmet cook and he just uh took so much for me and threw a party for

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me and he's just the sweetest sweetest brother so um but back to my miserable childhood so

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I believed him as mean as he was to me and he used to beat me up and stuff but as mean

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as he was I worshipped him because he was a great you know great you know he was good

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at everything so I thought okay he's right I'm ugly stupid no good I will be single for

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the rest of my life because I'm I'm no good you know nobody will want me so and so I was

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very quiet sensitive but really weird I couldn't be like those girly Japanese girls so I dressed

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like a boy and I had a you know really short spiky hair and I dressed like a boy acted

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like a boy yet I was very awkward with boys I did not know how to carry on like one-on-one

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conversation at all but people would laugh at me because I was acting funny really like

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a clown in my class and I guess looking back and that's how I used to cope with the world

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and my weirdness whatever it was and so and then fast forward I yeah I took my first drink

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I think probably a couple days I'm not sure a couple days before I my 18th birthday so

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I was graduating from school I didn't start drinking much younger or anything at all but

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I was graduating from high school in Japan high school kids are quite sheltered so we

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go wild when we go into college so I was no exception so now we're graduating so they

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started having parties and then but that this minor party I went like a daytime party and

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then somebody brought a bottle bottle of Suntory whiskey have you heard Suntory right good

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stuff and so but you know we were all so innocent so like hey let's try alcohol and then like

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people have a sip and then like just pass it on to the next person and like oh my gosh

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you know and then it came to me and then I started drinking it and I loved it instantly

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and I held on to the bottle and the bottle didn't move from here and then I don't remember

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but I drunk so much and I got completely wasted I was the only one that was wasted at the

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party and I became really crazy and I actually grabbed somebody's guitar started playing

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the guitar and singing out loud I knew how to play the guitar though but I have never

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performed in front of anyone because I was shy you know so I that felt really good and

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then another thing I did was I started telling everyone in front of me their character defects

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for the first time in my life that just felt so good right and then another thing the last

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thing the most embarrassing thing I did was that I'd had a huge crush on this boy in my

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entire high school years and he was there he was moving to Tokyo we're in Nagoya so

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he was moving he was leaving me so I just got on him like literally on top of him and

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they're like please don't leave me I love you you know and then he's like who's this

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girl that was my very first drinking episode and I absolutely fell in love with alcohol

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absolutely fell in love with alcohol my world completely completely changed and I didn't

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care I didn't feel like I became pretty or anything at all but I just didn't care and

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then I went on to college and that's when I like you I just partied hard I drank hard

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and I became a drummer in a rock band and so all I all I did was I didn't go to right

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yeah I still play the drums by the way I'm 60 years old and you know 27 years sober and

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I'm still drummer in a rock band and I love it so that's one of the best gifts of sobriety

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so so anyway so I have arrived you guys alcohol was so good to me it worked so beautifully

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and I was so comfortable with whatever and people thought I was funny fun to be with

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people wanted to be with me I was a center of the party and yeah life was great you know

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that life was so good I had so much fun so much fun and also you know I told you I was

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shy with boys but now you know they seem to like me because I let them sleep with me you

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know so but I don't do that today if you're new okay you know I'm happily married and

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faithful to the same person for 20 something years you know so you can brag about being

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faithful to your spouse only in AA right so I know so so but I I just slept around you

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know I used men big time I had no respect for them I just really just used them you

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know and of course after I got sober I made amends lots of amends but um but I alcohol

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was still working but I looking back I burned many many bridges many bridges and uh uh thanks

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to the uh steps I was able to make several amends not all but uh because it you know

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I I couldn't it was not um possible but I did my best and so that's why I'm free today

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you know and so um and then fast forward I have fast forward um I graduated from college

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not in a proper way and I started working uh for the this musical instrument company

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in Nagoya I um because you know I play music and then um I was a workaholic too I drank

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really really hard I kept partying really hard I was in a band and um I worked hard

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also alcohol again was really alcohol gave me so much power and confidence so I loved

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work I was workaholic and alcoholic and then one day this guy was sleeping with uh he and

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I were in the same band and he said hey I need to talk to you and I I don't like when

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people say I need to talk to you right yeah okay so and then like okay what is it you

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know and then he said I'm moving to America so like oh shoot I have to find a new boyfriend

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but thank god I didn't say anything and the next thing he said was hey let's get married

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and move to America so like that sounds awesome well um that's what I did and we got married

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I had a really wild alcoholic wedding but I have to tell you he wasn't one of us I mean

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I don't think he was because something tragic happened uh we had a wild alcoholic wedding

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I was all over some guy who was not my husband at my wedding I got busted and but then like

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he you know my husband I'm sure he knew about it but he didn't say anything you know next

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morning I woke up with the worst hangover but he didn't give me a tough time like okay

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good you know so um because I was like you know I you do whatever I want you to do and

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I do whatever I want to do and if you don't like it you're out of my life you know that

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was my attitude it's just so funny because when I was well before I started drinking

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I felt so so bad about myself so worthless and alcohol gave me so much power and I went

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to the other extreme like so arrogant you know and I just had no respect for anyone

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you know no compassion no respect it was all about me really truly self-centered and um

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so anyway and then um so we got married right so okay good he's not gonna put any restrictions

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on me I that's what I thought and I was so excited to come to the state to meet you guys

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and party with you and but the reality hit me that the very first day we started our

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new life this guy I hardly knew this husband of mine uh told me to stop drinking and right

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it was tragic for me like you understand right so like what what I was like who are you to

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who are you to tell me to stop drinking like I was like okay this is over right the first

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day but I couldn't leave him right away because you know I'm in another country I don't speak

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English I don't know a soul it's like okay I have to use him until I get settled so that's

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exactly what I got it but I did so um so I uh ended up staying with him for four years

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long long four years it was miserable I was miserable but so I used to drink behind his

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back um and uh I was lonely very lonely but again alcohol was my best friend and then

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uh gradually I'm like I started going to school Glendale College I was in Burbank and uh I

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took some ESL class and then I met someone of course right I met someone and he was he

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used to live in Japan he was bilingual so we hit it off and then like I started you

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know he started taking me to bars and stuff and then like also we used to drink on campus

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too and then like okay I got him I don't need my husband so I got rid of my husband I mean

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I shouldn't say got rid of but yeah I left my husband uh when he was on a business trip

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I I left him and I moved in with some guy not this guy I hooked up with but another

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guy who was a drug addict but he physically couldn't drink alcohol but he would buy me

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a side he's super dry so I thought wow how nice so I moved in with him right so and I

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got myself a little job I know I just have to talk about sobriety so I will speed up

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so I got myself a little job at a little Japanese school in Pals-Fertis I thought okay I can

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start my new life in West LA so that's where I moved to and then I I was driving to Pals-Fertis

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that there's a little Japanese school there so um you know I'm a responsible Japanese

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person I want you know self-supporting and all that and that's how my parents raised

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to me so um so I uh did that uh I started uh working and uh but I started partying again

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because I I got rid of this guy who was trying to control my drinking so like yes you know

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this is what I've been waiting for so I started going to lots of bars and started drinking

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uh I mean I was drinking anyway but um you know partying really hard and um I was hanging

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out I was already 31 but thanks to I'm sure Sophie probably relates you know thanks to

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this Asian genes I looked much younger than my age so I was 31 but I probably looked like

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in my early 20s and so I was hanging out with like the boys who are more than 10 years younger

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than me and just partying really really hard going to nightclubs and stuff and I thought

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this is it this is this is it this is my happiness but something weird started happening because

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I was really confused I got really confused because I was miserable even though I got

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rid of my husband and now partying and for some reason I was not happy and I was confused

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and so basically alcohol stopped working for me and I just did not know that and then I

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kept chasing the effect produced by alcohol and of course it just stopped working so no

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matter how much I drank it didn't work and I was so miserable I got into major depression

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fast forward I started seeing a psychiatrist because I thought I was going out of my mind

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really like because there's no reason you know I'm I'm I'm fine you know he's gone and

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I'm partying and there's nothing wrong with my life I mean I didn't have much money and

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stuff but that's okay as long as I have my juice you know like um and men and I started

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using men again just sleeping with a bunch of people no respect and I used people and

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um this is of course in retrospect but at the time I was the ultimate victim and I was

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like that's it's their fault it's their fault and then I got really into major depression

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and I tried to get out of them depression like you know started reading like uh books

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about depression and just did some writing because my doctor told me to do so and um

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you know I was in a therapy session and um her name was Amy she was kind you guys um

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I'm not against therapy at all I think therapy helps us therapy helps a lot of people but

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what I was doing was that so I go see Amy and I open the door and just you know oh I

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sit and Amy comes in and for 50 minute session for 50 minutes I felt okay I felt okay somebody

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is paying attention to me somebody's listening to me she's giving me undivided attention

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and she's saying Yuuko I'm so sorry wow Yuuko that's courageous Yuuko oh my gosh you've

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been through a lot you know and I was just dumping everything on her for 50 minutes paying

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a lot of money right I didn't have money but I did it because I needed her and so 50 minutes

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and the 50 minute session is okay you call see you next Wednesday and I close the door

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and I would start walking to the parking lot and guess how I felt I felt worse than before

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I saw her you know it was just a temporary solution I try to try to find out what was

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wrong with me and try to find the cause of my misery so that I could fix myself that's

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what I was chasing you know but after coming to AA I was taught it's the opposite you know

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the other way around you know and in fact my first real sponsor um Lindsay told me to

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stop trying to this is when I was new stop thinking about I mean stop trying to figure

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out what's wrong with you what's wrong with you is you're just an alcoholic you know that's

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what she used to tell me and I was like that's B you know it's not that pimple but it was

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really you know she was really right um so anyway okay just has to pass forward so what

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happened to me like I started drinking like non-stop I could not stop drinking and I actually

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was still teaching but I couldn't show up anymore I mean I started missing work and

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then my boss at that time her name was Peggy she was my alan on she would pull me aside

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and you go you have to watch yourself they're gonna let you go and I was like what the hell

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what the heck is she talking about I am overqualified for this job they're lucky to help me you

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know that was my attitude you know and I didn't listen to her and then Peggy was like you

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go you know Ginny Ginny was a substitute teacher at that little school and Ginny was Peggy's

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best friend so like you know Ginny like well yeah I met her and you know Ginny is in so

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if you ever want to go to an AA meeting she will be happy to take you there and I was

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like what so I had never heard alcoholics anonymous but it's called alcoholics anonymous

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so it's for alcoholics right and just like you I thought that they would teach me how

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to drink moderately so uh but either way I was highly offended like are you implying

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that I'm an alcoholic I cannot be an alcoholic because I'm Japanese you know that was my

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thing you know and I didn't listen to her advice for the longest time so what happened

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to me was like I kept digging my hole just deeper and deeper and on my 32nd birthday

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my sister-in-law other people my psychiatrist other people just started telling me you should

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go to AA and I was highly offended and I thought I could do this on my own and I tried to drink

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less on my own of course it didn't work as I'm an alcoholic and so on my 32nd birthday

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probably I hadn't drunk for a week or whatever so I was alone you know all the guys I used

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they got sick of me and they left me and people who tried to help me I pushed him out of my

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life because I didn't want them to tell me anything about my drinking so I was the loneliest

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creature I lost my job and I became homeless by the way but homeless you know I was sleeping

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on my friend's couches and stuff but then I finally found a little tiny apartment studio

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apartment that's all I could afford to and I was just in self-pity I was just resenting

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my husband and my parents and my work became smaller and smaller and smaller you know and

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so my 32nd birthday I mean I became really suicidal major depression and I was like I

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was I hadn't drunk for a few days but okay today's my birthday I deserve two beers like

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two beers and of course I tried to kill myself that night and I got hospitalized and that

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was really my bottom you know and so and then when I was ready to I was actually handcuffed

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and just sent to the hospital by the police but when I was ready to get out of there they

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said call someone so I called Peggy my alan and she came right away with Ginny who was

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in AA and Peggy gave me that look as you know you you know that you guys all know that look

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and she asked me a hundred questions which I couldn't answer at all and I was like please

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stop you know and I just was really just mortified that I was still alive I just wanted to end

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my life and but Ginny I hardly knew she was there and she hugged me and she said Yuko

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it's okay it's gonna be okay and I cried in her arms because I knew that somehow I knew

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that she knew how I felt and she 12-step me that morning and so that's how I ended up

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knowing that I'm not an alcoholic because I'm Japanese I decided to try AA just took

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my life together so and I have only 10 minutes I have to fast forward so I couldn't say it's

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over right away I kept drinking because I didn't raise my hand as a newcomer and so

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that was really my first step you know and I didn't talk to anyone people I hear people

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talk about my sponsor said this and that sponsor what's the sponsor but I couldn't ask anyone

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like what's the sponsor I could not ask anyone any questions about AA and I kept showing

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up and just not talking to anyone right after this hideous key coming back you know like

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I would take off and and it was horrible you know I couldn't stay sober and finally one

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sweet lady offered to sponsor me like and then okay what's the sponsor you know and

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she explained to me I dumped all my problems on her and poor Patricia she was so kind so

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kind she really saved my life because she kind of gave up on me she's like Yuko I don't

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know what to do with you you can't stay sober and she you know it's funny she sentenced

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me to the Pacific group it's not really that way you know that's how I felt you know like

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oh maybe you can try this group like what's this like what's the Pacific group oh you'll

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find out so okay so that's my home group today you guys in West LA so so I went to the Pacific

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group I didn't raise my hand when I first went there first in our key group and but

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I heard some great speaker that night for the first time in my life I just related because

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I was ready I was desperate you know and so so after that night I stayed sober but I didn't

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go to any meetings so I got drunk again one more time I lost my job and then I decided

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to go back that following Thursday I went to the key group again and that's when I my

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journey started I raised my hand as a newcomer and one guy named Roy Mia you know he sound

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his name sounds like Japanese but you know I'm like you're not Japanese you don't even

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speak Japanese so I'm like they're not real Japanese you know like nobody understands

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me you know it's just it's always my excuse you know but the truth of the matter is that

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I told you like when I grew up in Japan I didn't fit in there Japan was not nice to

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me and now I'm here and then my excuse is you don't get me because I'm Japanese you

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know my problem is my alcoholism you know and I had a really bad attitude but in spite

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of my bad attitude the people in my home group were incredibly kind to me the more miserable

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I was the kinder you know you guys were and the first I don't know several months like

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my head was so loud and I got this really really tough sponsor called Lindsay Jackson

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because my first friend in AA I did not want to have anything to do with you guys but she

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volunteered to be my friend so like okay you know and then she's like get Lindsay like

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okay you know so I got Lindsay and she really changed my life she completely changed my

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life and so I went to seven meetings a week and seven commitments did all kinds of activities

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and by then I got another job actually I was working probably two or three jobs and going

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to meetings every day and I was driving every you know all over LA and exhausted so by the

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time I got to the meeting I was and then the meeting time and I would start just dosing

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up you know so or my head was really loud so I was having a conversation in my head

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you know throughout the main speaker you know I just really couldn't hear the message but

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again the fellowship of AA really carried me through after the meeting people are like

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hey you guys you want to go to coffee like coffee it's 9 30 p.m why do you want to go

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to coffee but my answer is that okay you know and then I would you know be bitching and

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moaning and AA people just really listened to me you know and so but Lindsay got me through

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the steps and I was able to make amends to my family and I wasn't talking to my dad I

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really I mean I was a big time daddy's girl when I was young but he failed me he failed

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me and I was never ever ever gonna forgive him for the rest of my life and I got sober

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Lindsay said no that's okay even before I started making amends and she said to start

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calling him once a week you know and I started doing that initially it was awkward but you

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know and then I made amends and I kept making living amends and then like he and I just

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got became so tight so tight you know and he got her daughter back and we were just

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best buddies and he passed away 10 years ago but I gave him like 17 18 years you know really

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a good time and that's again one of the best gifts of sobriety and my mom also she passed

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away five years ago but you know I and I mentioned about my brother and my sisters and I just

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I'm really one of those luckiest people that I was able to make really incredible repair

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you know not that not I did not that I did it the steps did it you know so and so it's

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just incredible so just yeah I will keep your dad in my prayers but you know towards the

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end of their lives I was in you know back and forth between Japan and LA and also to

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not so 2020 my best friend my sister she passed away of cancer and she was in Chicago so I

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just took many many trips my husband was so understanding too so okay five minutes thank

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you so I just went on many many trips to just you know make living amends and I never regretted

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you know and so but she passed away 2020 so I just skipped it real quick but so my first

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year I wasn't allowed to date and I mean I could have never done it without Lindsay's

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direction because I was a slut really you know but I did it and then after I turned

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the year I I started dating Keith my now husband and then we got into kind of a serious relationship

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and then I got scared so I was gonna dump him before he was gonna dump me you know and

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then I told Lindsay like I think you know and then he started telling me I love you

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Yuko and I was like no say that you know because okay I'm Japanese we don't say I love you

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we don't we just don't so like he would say I love you you go and like no and like well

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thank you you know I was like I think we don't say that you know so and then like I talked

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to Lindsay like she started telling me I love you what do I do like oh you don't love him

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like are you kidding me I'm crazy about him he's the best thing that's ever happened and

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she said well then you have to say I love you back like he deserves to know you know

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so I started doing like I started doing it and today you know we've been together for

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I don't know how since 1998 so long time and we have the best relationship but best marriage

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and of course we have lots of ups and downs and we got two kids beautiful beautiful kids

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we raised those two kids by the principles of this program I went to graduate school

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I got master's degree and I became a teacher at a couple different colleges and I just

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fell in love with teaching I just my life is good and so my kids were just incredible

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you know just and life was good and but so they are 22 and 19 my kids but so my especially

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my older one was a golden child okay golden really so kind by nature so honest by nature

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and my younger one was a pistol and she was wild so Keith and I were worried about my

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younger one but when Kiko my golden child was 15 16 something's shifted and she turned

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into a one of us you know and that was the toughest time he and I have gone through many

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many things sobriety in our marriage but that was by far the toughest thing Kiko hitting

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the bottom we had to kick her out of our house and she became homeless and we did not know

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where she was and that's when that was 2020 and I got connected to Japan and God was so

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good to me because I had to take care of my alcoholism and I couldn't help her because

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she was my daughter she has her own higher power so and my sister died at the same time

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and it was a tough time but I just a in Japan is tiny because of a culture so I got to I

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still you know I mean getting to be of service to them and so and then Kiko was finally she

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at bottom and then she went agreed to go to rehab and when she was in rehab she heard

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someone in the Pacific group and then she she got hers as her sponsor and she has three

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and a half years sober today yeah thank you and she's in the middle of the Pacific group

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and my identity became Kiko's mom you know and I don't mind and she's going to Japan

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with me next month and then she's going to be one of the young people speaker you know

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and so I'm just so my life is so so good today you guys and one minute okay so I'm gonna

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just wrap it up but you know I'm I'm an alcoholic before I'm Japanese I'm an alcoholic before

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I'm daughter or my wife I'm a mother I'm just an alcoholic period you know and the rest

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of the things all the things you know I didn't even expect to be those are all bonus for

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me and because I'm an alcoholic nothing can come between AA and God it's so that I said

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nothing can come between me me and alcohol except for God and AA so thank you so much

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much for my life. Thank you.