Rae's Journey: From Family Strife to 12 Years Sober
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Rae's Journey: From Family Strife to 12 Years Sober

Episode description

Rae opens up about a troubled childhood in a Filipino‑American household, the pain of feeling unloved, and the chaotic path that led to alcoholism. She shares how consistent AA support and a sponsor helped her stay sober since 2011, offering encouragement to anyone hesitant about staying in recovery.

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- Hi everyone, I'm Rae, I'm an alcoholic.

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And thanks to Bennett for asking me to come out to speak.

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Really glad to be here, I've had a warm welcome tonight.

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And I'm really happy to be in a meeting

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with Alcoholics Anonymous.

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And so I've been at this meeting before

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when I was at the last location.

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And if any of you saw me at the previous meetings

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before I was in a really bad spot in my sobriety,

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I was sitting in the rooms contemplating,

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do I wanna stay sober?

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And I was coming to these meetings and it was same thing.

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I walked into the rooms, not a vision for you,

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not approachable and everyone would still welcome me

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to the meeting, ask me how I'm doing.

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And I didn't wanna be here.

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So if you're new and you're sitting in the room

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and you're like, I don't wanna be here.

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If you have some time and you're sitting in the room

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and you're thinking, I don't know

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if I wanna do this anymore.

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I understand, I've been there before, I've sat in the rooms

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and I just kept coming back to the rooms

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despite how I felt and because I had the support system,

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I had friends who were coming to this meeting

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and were like, Rae, come to the meeting tonight,

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come out with us, right?

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And I'm really grateful for that.

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I'm really grateful for my sobriety.

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I've been sober since December 6th of 2011.

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I got a sponsor and my home group is this Pacific group.

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And I'll tell you my story.

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So I grew up in Northern California.

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I was born in San Francisco and my parents raised us

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in the Napa Valley, so wine country.

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And people are like, oh, it's such a beautiful place.

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I'm like, it's boring as hell as a kid.

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There's nothing to do, there's tourists coming

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to drink and enjoy the vineyards.

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And I just did not, and already, right?

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Restless, irritable and discontent for my earliest memories.

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I don't like anything, I don't wanna be where I'm at.

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I don't like myself, you hate me, but I hate you more.

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So I don't, and I just have a fear for people growing up.

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I don't like being around people

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because I always have the thought like,

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are you thinking something about me?

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'Cause I'm thinking something about you

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and like, is this okay?

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Am I okay?

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And just like the constant thought like through my head.

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And I remember as a kid, like people would be like,

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what goes through your head?

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I'm like, a lot of stuff.

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And they're like racing, people tried to get it out of me,

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but then that also like made me so introverted

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'cause I just thought if I ever said

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what was going on in my head, I would like explode.

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And my mom used to tell me about like spontaneous combustion

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so it would freak me out, right?

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Like she would be like, don't do that.

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You're gonna spontaneously combust.

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Like whenever we'd act bad, like she was just like...

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- And like me and my brother,

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so both my parents are still together.

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I have one other sibling and we like,

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oh, we were just, we are those kids,

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we would run around the neighborhood.

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We would like, we would just aggravate our mom

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and they were like so bad

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that sometimes she would just like fake passing out

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and like just lay there.

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So we would leave her alone and like,

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and then like we would just poke at her, right?

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For hours and hours, like mom, get up, get up.

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We need you, we need you.

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And like, we'd call her all the time

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because we'd fought so much.

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So we'd call her at work like 20 calls a day.

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Like it would just, we knew her like extension.

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Like, and the secretary would answer.

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They'd be like, Leah, you need to stop calling.

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Your mom is very busy.

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And then we'd just call back five minutes later.

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So me and my brother, like we were just those,

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we just caused a lot of trouble growing up.

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And you know, my brother came to AA before me.

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Here's just a side story.

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He came to AA before me.

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He found God in a church group and her name,

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like I forget her name, but he started doing that.

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And he said, he doesn't need AA.

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To this day, he is missing.

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We don't know where he is.

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The last time I talked to him,

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he was in a full paranoia like episode.

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And he like, he was like, they're coming for me.

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Like someone like has told on me like,

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and he was out of state the last time I know,

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like I knew of, and you know,

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and he's like one of the alcoholics that, you know,

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I pray for it when we pray at the end of the meeting.

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And I'm so grateful for my surprise

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that I still can take his call,

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but I, and he knows where to go if he needs help.

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So growing up in my household, you know,

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my parents worked a lot,

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even though they moved us to the Napa Valley,

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they still worked in San Francisco.

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So they were commuting a bunch.

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We didn't see them a lot.

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We were always with babysitters

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or making my mom fake pass out on the ground in the house.

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And she, so I,

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my first resentment growing up

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was that my parents didn't love me.

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They didn't, I wasn't worth their time.

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They didn't think I was worthy of their time.

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They wouldn't take the time off.

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And that was it.

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I just was unworthy of their love.

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And, you know, my parents,

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they never came to any of my,

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any of my basketball games, my softball games,

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any of my concerts.

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And, and that was like the one thing,

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like I just thought that they hated me.

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And if my own parents don't love me, no one else will.

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And, oh, and Dan, thank you for your talk.

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I related a lot.

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And so growing up in a Filipino household,

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I don't know if any of you have Filipino friends

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or if you have been around Filipino families

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when they have parties, but there's a lot involved.

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And that is a lot of food,

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a lot of booze and a lot of karaoke the entire day.

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Or if you have Filipino neighbors

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and you hear the karaoke machine.

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Yeah, that's a regular weekend or a Thursday night.

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So that was every Saturday at our house,

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everybody would come over.

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They'd eat, drink and sing karaoke.

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And my dad, he would sing and he would sing

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and he would be drunk.

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And everybody, I just adored him because every,

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like all the attention would be focused on him.

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He like spoke to people with like, like effortlessly.

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It seemed, and for me, it was always really difficult.

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Like if I speak, I'm gonna spontaneously combust.

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That was like the constant thought in my head as a child.

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And my dad, he was just my hero.

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So I would do anything to try to be like him.

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And one weekend he was just drunk enough

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that he goes, Ray, give me another Henny and Coke

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and you could have whatever you want out of the cooler.

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And I was like, okay.

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And I had already put it together.

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I'm watching these people sing karaoke terribly.

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Why would you do that to yourself?

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Like, 'cause I'm not gonna do anything I'm not good at.

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I'm not gonna do anything that is gonna embarrass me

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and make you have opinions about me

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or even tell other people that I did something terribly.

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And so, that day I grabbed something out of the cooler.

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It was like the Bartle James, like fuzzy navel wine cooler.

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I grabbed two of them.

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I went straight to the backyard.

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Nobody else was out there.

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And I drank that down.

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It tasted like sparkling Kool-Aid.

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And drank the second one down.

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And I just remember sitting there like looking at the sun,

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like, and my shoulders slumped down

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and like the lines across my forehead gone, right?

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Like I just had that first like breath.

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And so, and my head slowed down.

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Like all those thoughts, right?

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That I had just slowed down for a moment.

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Came back in the house.

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My dad said, Ray, you wanna sing?

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I'm like, absolutely.

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It's time, right?

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And I sang that day and my dad was like, good job.

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Like he was so proud of me.

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And I was like, this is part of the formula then.

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Like this is what's gonna work.

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And that, you know, I didn't become a daily drinker

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every day at the age of 12.

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But every time we had a party, I went in those coolers

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and I grabbed something and I put it in my closet.

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I grabbed something for any other time

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that like my head just got too loud.

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Like I'd already put it together.

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Like this is gonna help.

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And you know, and the way that I, you know,

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growing up in a Filipino Catholic household,

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like I knew from a very young age,

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like I was attracted to my babysitter's granddaughter

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who was like my age.

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And I was like, all right, like I think I'm gay.

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But like my parents also being Catholic were like,

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you can't like, don't be like your Auntie Daisy

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who's gay, right?

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Or we're gonna kick you out of the house.

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And I'm like eight years old, like, oh, I can't be gay.

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And I used to go to church with them.

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And I would pray that like whatever,

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like those feelings or whatever that was,

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I would just try to pray it away.

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Like, I don't wanna be this.

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I don't wanna disappoint my parents.

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I don't wanna give them another reason to not love me.

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And go to church every Sunday.

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And then I would do two a days and I'd go to like,

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I'd go to church on Wednesdays with my friends.

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I go to Bible study and I'm like, let's, you know,

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like I wanna make it go away.

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And like whatever else is going on between my ears

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and what goes on in my head, like pray it away.

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And, you know, and today I'm an alcoholic,

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still gay, but I'm, and I'm married.

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And my mom wasn't happy about that.

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That's another, we'll get to that part.

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But, you know, I tried so hard just to change who I was

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because like I could not, I could not be like,

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I couldn't live in my family.

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I'm not allowed to be who I am.

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And like the alcohol really helped just to like

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give me moments of peace with that

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because it would keep me up at night as a kid

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to think about it.

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And part of feeling that way meant like I was in over,

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for me, like coping with that, like meant overachieving.

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So I did really well in school.

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I did really well in sports.

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I did really well in my music.

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And that was, those were also areas where like

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I excelled that like I didn't feel less than.

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And so I did well in school.

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I went on, and I finished high school.

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And like the only thing that happened was like

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I got kicked off of a couple of teams

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'cause I just couldn't show up to practice

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because I discovered that I liked being more like

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the musicians after school.

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Like that is where I found,

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that's where I tried weed for the first time.

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That's when I started drinking with my friends.

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That's one of the things that I would collect on the weekends

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in my closet that we would go after school

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and go drink together, you know, and like,

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and then my head would shut off, you know,

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and I'd have those moments of peace.

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And I didn't have to stress myself out

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getting to basketball practice to get yelled at

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because I was usually higher drunk

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when I'd go to practice anyways.

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And I liked that, right?

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Like it was, that was fine.

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Like that took pressure off.

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Like I don't have to keep like

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playing on the basketball team or overachieving.

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And then I just, I really just stopped going to school

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for the most part in my senior year.

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And then I had to, they like do this thing

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where you have to just sit in a room

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just because the state of California requires

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a certain number of hours for you to actually like graduate.

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Even my grades were fine,

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but like I just didn't show up to school.

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And so I did finish high school by the skin of my teeth

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just because of hours and I got into college.

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And so like, everything's working for me.

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Everything is working for me.

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I'm not doing anything wrong.

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And my drinking is progressing.

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My using is progressing.

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My ability to not show up for anything else

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is also progressing.

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And I still, you know, I'm still doing everything

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that everyone has asked me to do, right?

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Like go to school, like get a job, make some money.

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Everything that I'm seeing the rest of my friends do,

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I'm doing.

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So I get to drink exactly how I want to drink, right?

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Like you can't tell me what to do

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because I'm doing everything you expect me to.

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And, you know, eventually, you know, I'm in college

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and I, you know, my drinking progresses.

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I start the days between, like I can no longer determine

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the days that I'm going to drink and not going to drink.

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I don't have the choice anymore.

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I'm going to school, I'm still doing all of that.

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But like now I have a bottle in my car

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on my in-between classes because I need to drink.

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I need to be drunk at school and I just need to show up.

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But like, that's the one thing too.

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My parents are like, if you just go and do all these things

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and you, you know, like we really,

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what are we going to tell you?

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And so I'm earning, I'm protecting my right to drink.

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You know, and I finished college.

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I get an internship after college

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in kind of in the field that I'm in now.

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And, and that's, that's all good, but I continue to drink

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and I continue to use and that progressively gets worse.

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And I, my girlfriend at the time, she caught,

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she caught me cheating on her and I,

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and I was blaming her for it.

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And then she broke up with me.

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And then I said, and then I, to get her not to leave me,

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I tried to commit suicide also because that was my way

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of keeping you here, right?

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Like I need you to live.

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And part of that too was just, I was so depressed.

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Like the drinking, the using, like everything,

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like if you can't stay with me,

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no one's going to stay with me, I'm unlovable.

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That whole, that whole thing in my head is still playing.

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Like you're unworthy, you're unlovable,

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no one's going to stay for you.

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And, and I try to commit suicide and, you know,

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and she tricked me into going to the psych ward.

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She was like, all right, let's, let's have a chat.

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Like, let's go get breakfast.

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And she, she got me Carl's Jr breakfast sandwich

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and then took me to the psych ward.

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So that didn't work out well for us.

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But in the psych ward, they, they like did a full assessment

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and they were like, yeah, we're going to keep you.

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And one of the people working there was like, hey, do you,

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you know, like, do you drink or use?

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And they, at that point they had already done

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a urinalysis.

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They were just asking to see if I would tell them what,

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and I was like, oh no, no, I'm like, I mean, yeah,

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like I earned it, right?

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Like I'm a college graduate.

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Like I have a job, I have a car, I'm not, you know,

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and she kind of like looked at me weird and I was like,

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yeah, like I'm, I can't, I don't have a problem with it.

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Like I just drink and use.

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And she's like, oh, okay, yeah, no problem.

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And like the tests come back, she talks to me about that.

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And she's like, great, we're just, you know,

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with the things that you've been talking about,

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it sounds like you have some, like,

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some other traumas that happen.

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Like we have some medications so that you,

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that will help you to like not feel suicidal,

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but whatever you do, like don't drink on it.

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So she gave me some antidepressants, like sent me home

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and said like, I'll see you in a couple of weeks,

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like after the psych ward fold.

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So I come back after two weeks and she asked me

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about how the medication was going and I, you know,

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she said, whatever you do, don't drink on the medication.

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She asked me how it was going and I said,

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I haven't taken it.

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Why haven't you taken the medication?

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I'm like, well, 'cause you're telling me

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it's gonna take two weeks to work,

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but like when I drink or when I use, it works like that.

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And she looked, she gave me that look and I was like,

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I said the wrong thing right there, you know?

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And she was like, do you have a problem with like alcohol?

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Do you have a problem with drugs?

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And I said, no, no, I don't have a problem.

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Like I have a college degree, I have a job,

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I have a place to stay.

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Like I'm not an episode of intervention,

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like I don't know what you're talking about.

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She was like, okay, well, you have a couple of options,

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you know, we're gonna,

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you either start taking the medication

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or we're gonna put you back into the psych ward

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or you can try our treatment program.

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I was like, absolutely.

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Like I was just like that, those are weird options

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because I, again, I'm not an alcoholic, you know,

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and I don't, I'm not suicidal right now.

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And so she was like, listen,

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you can stay on disability leave

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and you don't have to go back to work.

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And that sounded like a good idea

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'cause work was the problem then.

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And so I stayed on disability leave

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and she put me into this treatment program.

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So not even, I wasn't even like willing to give it up.

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I was just willing to like be off of work for two more weeks

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'cause I do like the grippy sock vacation, right?

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Like they medicate me heavily.

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I don't have to think about anything.

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I get to see people,

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like there are people who are willing to help me,

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like talk with me.

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And like I went to this treatment program

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and they, you know, they like tell you about triggers.

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They tell you about, you know, like people to avoid,

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like things to avoid doing.

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And I was like, okay, I got it after two weeks.

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Like I'm ready to go back to work.

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Like I'm done with this, right?

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And you know, they let me out on a Friday,

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like five o'clock and like six o'clock,

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like sitting at home.

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I know nothing about alcoholics anonymous at this point.

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Sitting at home, like what am I supposed to do

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for the rest of the night?

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'Cause I know like I'm not supposed to leave the house

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'cause then I'm gonna drink.

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'Cause I can't go out and function out in the world.

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Like I don't know how to live my life

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without using drugs or alcohol.

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And now 605 rolls around like,

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no really, what am I supposed to do?

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And like I, at that point, like I couldn't afford cable.

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It's like I have a job,

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but like I don't manage my money well, right?

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I don't have cable.

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I don't have anything to watch.

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I don't have any way to like,

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and I'm calling all my friends after having been gone

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during this treatment program.

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And none of them are answering their phones.

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None of them want to talk to me.

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And I don't think I've caused any harm to anybody.

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I just, I drank.

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Like that doesn't hurt.

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Like what I do hasn't like is none of your business.

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And I'm not hurting you like by my drinking.

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I don't think that I have any fault in that.

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Meanwhile, like I have like left friends at the bar

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because I was supposed to be designated driver.

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And I just like, I just leave

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if I don't want to be somewhere when I'm drinking.

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Like you will lose me when we go out.

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And you know, and I dip out on friends

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when I promise that I'm going to move in with them

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and pay them rent and like not pay them anything, right?

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Or I just like stop talking to people

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or I don't like, I don't call you anymore

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if you don't have anything to contribute to my life.

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And, and I don't think I'm hurting anybody.

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I'm just protecting my right to drink

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and I'm just doing what I have to do.

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And that's really none of your business.

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So like 610 rolls around, no one's called me back.

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615 rolls around and like the liquor store down the street,

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I remember that it's like, it's open.

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Like I can get a couple of tall cans, like no problem.

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And I'm like, well, yeah, it wasn't like six, you know,

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635, like it wasn't that bad, was it?

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You know, and like just each five minute increment,

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like the, like I have no choice

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over whether or not I'm going to drink.

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I'm going to drink, I have no higher power.

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I have no knowledge of alcohol, it's anonymous.

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And that night I walked down, you know,

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I walked down to the liquor store,

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I grabbed two tall cans

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and a fifth of UV blue raspberry vodka.

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I drink it all and I drink that all.

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And I decided it was a good idea to like drive over

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to my ex-girlfriend's house and throw rocks at her window.

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'Cause like if we worked it out,

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if that would have solved everything.

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And yeah, that did not.

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I did have one buddy, he would call me

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like while I was in treatment.

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And I didn't know this until after I came out of treatment.

17:36

He was like, "Bae, where have you been?

17:38

Like, I haven't heard from you."

17:40

And I was like, "Look, I'm just trying to stop drinking.

17:43

I don't know what I'm supposed to do."

17:44

And he's like, "Listen, I've been clean and sober

17:46

and Alcoholics Anonymous for eight years.

17:47

Like, I'm willing to help you."

17:50

And I'd be like, he'd be like,

17:51

"Let me take you to a meeting."

17:52

I'm like, "I can't leave my house or I'm gonna drink."

17:55

You know, and I'm telling him these things.

17:56

I have no idea what Alcoholics Anonymous is.

17:58

And he, you know, he keeps calling me.

18:00

And at that point I'm like,

18:01

"I don't know what he has to offer.

18:03

I don't know what I'm supposed to get like from him."

18:05

But he keeps calling me.

18:07

And then one night he just says,

18:08

"Rhea, listen, look, I have a girl for you to meet tonight.

18:11

Like, I'm gonna pick you up at six o'clock.

18:13

Just be ready." And so I think he has a girl for me to meet.

18:17

I'm like, "That's a plan."

18:19

So he picks me up at six o'clock.

18:21

He takes me over, it's a Wednesday night.

18:23

He takes me over the hill

18:24

and he takes me to Pacific group.

18:25

And I walk into that meeting

18:28

and there's a bunch of people there.

18:29

I'm overwhelmed, but I'm like, he's like,

18:31

"No, no, no, I have somebody for you to meet."

18:33

Like, so I don't have to pick her out.

18:35

He's picking her for me.

18:36

And he introduces me to my sponsor who,

18:41

but I think it's a date because I don't know

18:44

about Alcoholics Anonymous.

18:46

And so he's introducing me to his friend

18:48

who is still my sponsor today.

18:49

And she's like, "Hi, my name is Sarah."

18:52

And I'm like, "Hi, I'm Rhea."

18:54

And she was like, "Are you, you're friends with Doug?

18:56

Okay, great."

18:57

And she would, she walked me around the meeting

18:59

and she was like,

18:59

"Has anyone given you a meeting directory yet?"

19:01

And I'm like, "No."

19:02

And so she gets a meeting directory.

19:04

She writes her number at the very top

19:06

of the meeting directory.

19:07

And she's like, "Call me every day."

19:08

And I'm like, "Yeah, I will."

19:11

And she's like, "Oh, do you smoke?

19:12

You can go outside.

19:13

And like, when you go smoke,

19:14

like go get some numbers from other women."

19:16

And I was like, "Like that?

19:17

Okay, cool."

19:18

Like, so I think like it's an open relationship.

19:20

And so I'm out there getting numbers from women.

19:23

And then at the end of the night after the meeting,

19:25

I don't really remember much about my first meeting,

19:27

but at the end of the night,

19:29

she was like, "If no one's told you today,

19:31

I love you and I'll see you tomorrow."

19:32

And I was like, "Sounds good.

19:33

Like, love you too.

19:34

This is gonna work, right?"

19:35

And I'm like, "I love Alcoholics Anonymous."

19:39

So my motives are terrible, you know, like for two weeks,

19:41

I'm trying to like Mack on my sponsor.

19:44

And then like, we met up for a step work

19:46

and she was like, "I don't know what anybody's told you,

19:47

but like, I'm only..."

19:49

She goes, "I'm only here to give freely

19:51

what was given to me.

19:52

And that is the program of Alcoholics Anonymous.

19:54

I'm here to walk you through the steps

19:55

and help you find the connection with the higher power

19:57

so that you can go and help another alcoholic.

20:00

And that's all it is."

20:01

You know, and other people were like, "She's dating somebody."

20:04

You know, I just, I was really confused in the moment.

20:06

And once we cleared that up, you know,

20:09

and I really reflect, like reflecting on it, right?

20:12

Like I'm thinking, growing up,

20:15

I'm thinking that my parents, they don't love me.

20:17

They're unable to show up for me.

20:19

That I'm unlovable and worthy.

20:20

And here's this woman who, you know,

20:23

every time I call her to check in, she's like,

20:25

"Ray, how can I help you stay sober today?"

20:27

And every Sunday before the Ohio street meeting,

20:29

she would bring her big book.

20:30

She'd tell me to bring my big book and a notebook

20:33

and sit with me to do step work

20:35

because she just wanted me to stay sober.

20:37

And I, and like today I know as a sponsor, right?

20:39

Like it's good for my sobriety to be working with others,

20:42

but like as a new person walking in the room,

20:44

like I'm like, "I don't know how to pay you back."

20:46

And she's like, "You just do the steps

20:48

and then you help another person."

20:50

That's it.

20:51

And you know, like I think I'm absolutely unlovable,

20:53

absolutely unworthy of it, but man, you know,

20:57

that it was the first act of kindness

20:58

I had felt in a really long time.

21:00

And like, as somebody, as a sober member

21:03

of Alcoholics Anonymous who gets to sponsor people,

21:05

like it is a beautiful thing to like sit across the table

21:07

from another person and walk them through the steps

21:10

and then watch the light come on in their eyes.

21:13

You know, and my first year of sobriety,

21:15

my sponsor said, "You're gonna go to seven meetings a week.

21:17

You're gonna do all of the activities

21:20

your home group has to offer.

21:21

We go to Clancy's house on Saturdays.

21:23

You know, we do the yard, we do the moves, the watches,

21:26

everything, you're gonna do everything."

21:28

And I thought it was so severe

21:29

because I still had a college degree.

21:31

I had a job, I didn't lose everything.

21:34

And she's like, "But did you drink every day?"

21:35

And I was like, "Yeah, I absolutely did."

21:37

And she's like, "So we do something every day about it."

21:39

And that was it.

21:41

Like there was just no negotiating that.

21:42

And I was like, you know,

21:44

so I did everything in my first year

21:45

and I told you my parents had never been to one of my games

21:48

and first softball tournament that was local.

21:50

My sponsor shows up and she,

21:53

during my first year I got the name Little Bear

21:56

from my softball team because like from the outside

21:58

it just was like scary, not approachable.

22:01

And, but on the inside I was like really wanted

22:03

to be close to you and like have relationships with people.

22:06

So I got Little Bear like Care Bear.

22:09

I was like, "Let's drop the care part.

22:11

Let's just keep the bear part."

22:13

And my sponsor shows up to the first tournament that's local

22:17

and she's wearing a shirt that says Mama Bear.

22:19

She's sitting in the stands, it's like so hot outside.

22:21

The whole day she just stays out there.

22:23

She watches me play and she's cheering me on,

22:25

cheering on the rest of the team.

22:28

And like that's alcoholic phenomenon.

22:31

It was like, we have the ability to show up

22:32

in somebody's life just like they just need some love.

22:35

They just need, they just need people to show up for them.

22:38

And so my sponsor has taught me to do the same things,

22:40

show up for my sponsors,

22:42

show up for all of the AA things that we do

22:44

because the miracles that I see in alcohol

22:46

and synonymous is just an absolute beautiful thing.

22:49

And it reminds me that there's like, there is a God.

22:53

I wanna talk a little bit about the last year

22:58

and kind of how some of the things that have happened,

23:00

you know, I got engaged to my wife

23:03

and I called my parents when that happened.

23:07

And my dad, you know, my dad had,

23:08

ever since I've gotten sober,

23:09

my dad had this huge like turnaround of like,

23:12

look, I love you, I just want you to be alive.

23:14

I just want you to be happy.

23:15

And my mom was like, is this my fault?

23:18

Like, I don't know how to talk to you.

23:20

Like, I don't know how to be close to you.

23:22

And we just, you know,

23:23

my sponsor told me to just continue sending the cards,

23:26

continue calling them regularly

23:27

and like let that relationship play out, you know,

23:30

but I could still show up to it.

23:31

And I'm sure I got engaged.

23:33

I called my parents and my dad was like,

23:35

congrats, like, I love you guys.

23:36

Like, you know, so happy for you.

23:38

Like, let me know if there's anything I can do.

23:40

I called my mom and she's like, okay,

23:41

I'll pray for you guys and hung up the phone.

23:44

Man, that was a tough year, right?

23:46

Because I'm like, how am I?

23:47

And I was like, I don't know how I'm supposed to ask her

23:48

to show up for me.

23:49

And my sponsor was like,

23:50

you just get to continue sending the cards.

23:52

You get to continue calling her,

23:54

like just keep showing up.

23:55

And like one thing that my sponsor taught me was like,

23:58

we just get to keep doing the footwork, right?

24:00

And so I continue to do that.

24:01

And you know, and then my wife's mom called my mom

24:05

and then her sis, my aunties called my mom

24:08

and they were like, Ray, I just want you to show up.

24:10

You don't have to, you don't have to accept it.

24:12

Like, or you don't have to show up.

24:14

She just needs to know whether or not you're gonna be there

24:16

because it's expensive per plate

24:18

and somebody else wants to go at this point, right?

24:20

Like another one of my aunties wanna go

24:22

is during the pandemic.

24:23

She's like, well, if Gloria is not gonna go,

24:25

I'm gonna go, I'm gonna take that seat.

24:27

And, but with the help, like, you know,

24:30

my friends through this engagement party

24:32

and like they all talked about how much they love,

24:35

you know, me and like me and my wife

24:38

and like how Alcoholics Anonymous is like,

24:40

just like made us who we are today.

24:43

And my mom's sitting on, it's a Zoom call

24:45

'cause it's COVID, she's sitting on the call

24:47

and she's crying and she's crying.

24:49

She goes, you know, she decides that she wants to talk

24:52

and I'm like, this is gonna be wild, right?

24:54

Like, I don't know if she's gonna have a moment

24:56

where she's like, this is wrong and just like log off.

24:58

But she gets on the call and she's like, you know, Ray,

25:00

it's always just, it's always been so hard to like raise you

25:03

you've been so independent and so closed off

25:06

and so introverted.

25:07

I haven't known how to be your mom.

25:10

And like in that moment,

25:12

like it was just like complete forgiveness, right?

25:14

Like she doesn't, she's doing the best she can

25:17

with what she has and like, and my sponsor was like,

25:19

she showed up and then because of that

25:21

and she showed up to the wedding and she had a great time.

25:24

There's great pictures of my mom dancing

25:26

at the wedding.

25:27

But the last year, which I haven't told my mom

25:29

is that we've been trying to have a baby.

25:31

And so we've been going through this fertility process

25:34

and in my sobriety, I've had this thing where like,

25:36

I do the footwork, I take the next indicated action,

25:40

I get results, I do the footwork,

25:41

I take the next indicated action and get results.

25:43

And I've been, we've been doing the footwork,

25:45

we've been showing up to the appointments,

25:46

we've been taking the actions and we're not pregnant, right?

25:49

And it's the next cycle, we do the footwork,

25:51

we go to the appointments and not pregnant.

25:54

And we've done that four times this year.

25:57

And, you know, we took a break this summer.

25:59

It is really hard, it's really challenging.

26:01

And like, I'm so grateful for Alcoholics Anonymous.

26:05

You know, I've been talking to my friends about it

26:06

and I had one of my buddies call me on Thursday

26:09

and he's like, look, I know you guys are going through it,

26:11

but if there's anything that I can do to help,

26:13

like let me help you.

26:14

And I was like, I don't wanna be weird,

26:16

but I don't know how you're gonna help us.

26:18

And he was like, no, no, no, not like me,

26:19

not like me helping you guys like that.

26:22

'Cause I'm thinking he wants to be baby daddy.

26:25

And he goes, no, no, no, like if you want,

26:28

if you want me to rally the troops,

26:29

like we can do a GoFundMe.

26:31

If you, if like, 'cause the process is also really expensive.

26:34

If he's like, if you just need people to send meals

26:36

on the days that you have those,

26:37

those like really intense appointments, I'll do that.

26:40

Like, no problem.

26:41

Other people are happy to take commitments

26:42

to support you guys.

26:44

And, you know, and I'm not thinking about that.

26:46

I'm like, I gotta do it all on my own.

26:49

There's no God, right, that all of that happened.

26:51

All of that has gone through my mind.

26:53

And one thing I like, like God is in everything.

26:56

And I will say that my relationship with God has changed.

26:59

I had the Catholic God coming in,

27:01

like trying to make that right.

27:02

And, you know, over the years, with my sobriety,

27:06

like my God is a combination of like the Fab Five

27:09

and RuPaul, like we work every day, right?

27:12

I don't hit my knees unless, you know, like I don't,

27:15

I don't hit my knees to pray anymore.

27:17

You know, the only time like my God would have me hit my

27:19

knees is when I'm twerking at, you know, at a dance club.

27:23

And that's pretty much it.

27:25

And like, I was told, like, I was told,

27:28

you gotta hit your knees to pray.

27:29

And that was the only way to pray.

27:31

And what I've learned is like, I get to have my own God.

27:34

Like, it's not that like other people find it serious.

27:37

Like my God is not that serious with me

27:39

because I cannot hear a message that is like stuffy.

27:43

And so, and having that kind of God

27:46

where I can approach my higher power

27:48

and say like struggling, what are we supposed to do today?

27:51

And I get the girl go to work, you know,

27:53

like lip sync for your life.

27:56

Like today we're going to lip sync for our lives.

27:58

And, and that helps me stay sober like one day at a time.

28:01

And like the, the relationship that I've gotten to develop

28:04

with my higher power also allows me to like sponsor people

28:06

really well, like it can be anything, any,

28:09

anything my higher power can be is mine, right?

28:12

And I will say, you know, I've had,

28:15

I've had the honor and privilege of sponsoring women

28:18

in this program.

28:19

And I've also had, you know,

28:22

I've also had to be part of like burying sponsees.

28:25

I got to participate in young peoples

28:28

and I've gotten sponsees out of there.

28:30

And, and it gets sometimes, you know,

28:33

like being young feels invincible.

28:35

And I've watched a lot of people leave and come back

28:38

and leave and not come back.

28:40

And I've had, like, I had to get right with God on that.

28:42

I've had friends die not from alcoholism and die from cancer.

28:45

And I tell you the thing about my higher powers

28:48

because like that is the higher power that I have today.

28:50

And when that was happening in my life,

28:52

like I blamed God for everything.

28:54

And those were the times that I was coming in this meeting.

28:58

Like, I don't want to be here anymore.

28:59

I could not find a higher power that I could connect to

29:02

because I thought God was punishing me.

29:04

Like you make me gay in a Catholic family

29:06

and you take away my friends.

29:07

Like when I, like when we're doing all of the stuff

29:09

that worked, like we're trying to stay sober.

29:11

Like, why are you taking people away?

29:13

And an old timer reminded, you know, she told me,

29:17

she's like, God isn't like the reason

29:20

that bad things happen.

29:21

God is what gets us through.

29:23

And that like changed my perspective

29:25

just long enough for me to sit here

29:27

and like rethink like my third step practice

29:29

and like my relationship with my higher power

29:32

so that I could continue to stay sober, you know?

29:35

And I had, I just, between four and five was really tough.

29:39

I just did not want to, I didn't want to do it.

29:41

I didn't know how I was going to have a life

29:43

in Alcoholics Anonymous because I got sober young

29:46

and I didn't really think it was fair,

29:48

but I'm really grateful for my sobriety today.

29:50

You know, the things that have happened in my life,

29:53

like I have traveled all over the world.

29:56

I never thought I would be able to do that.

29:58

And I, and that was one of the things

29:59

I told my sponsor very early on.

30:01

She was like, well, what do you want to do?

30:02

And I was like, I just want to travel.

30:03

Like I don't see that I would ever get the opportunity

30:05

to have money.

30:06

And you know, in the last 12 years,

30:09

I've gotten to hit nearly every continent

30:12

and I'm so grateful for that.

30:15

But my time is up.

30:16

If you are new, welcome.

30:18

I hope you stay.

30:19

I hope you find what I've found here.

30:21

And that's my time.

30:23

Thank you.