From First Sip to 19 Years Sober: David's Journey
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From First Sip to 19 Years Sober: David's Journey

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David reflects on a childhood marked by a stepfather’s drinking, his first taste of alcohol at age 12, and a 37‑year battle with addiction. He credits Alcoholics Anonymous for guiding him toward 19 years of sobriety and offers hope to newcomers seeking a life free from substance dependence.

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Good evening, my name is David and I'm an alcoholic.

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First off, I'd like to thank Nathan for inviting me out tonight doing it like no one said,

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doing anything in Alcoholics Anonymous is an honor and a privilege.

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And thank you, Nolan, for your ten minutes, you got me a little meeting there.

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If you're new, I want to welcome you to Alcoholics Anonymous, and I hope you found what I have

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found here, and that is a way to live without the use of anything that affects you from

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the neck up.

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And I did not know how to do that for a very, very, very long time.

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If I could manage to stay sober for the next 11 days, I will be turning 19 years sober,

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which is nothing short of a miracle for me.

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I took my first drink at 12 years old, I took my last one at 49 and a half years old.

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You know, in that 37 year period, my disease took me to places that I would not wish on

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my worst enemy.

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You know, and my drinking didn't start out that way, my drinking started out fairly innocent.

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I have an older sister, or have an older sister that's 13 months older than me.

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My mother divorced my dad when we were two years old, because she grew up in an alcoholic

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home, and after three years of marriage to him, she realized she was married to a drunk,

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and she wasn't going to raise her kids in that environment, so she did the best she

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could.

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But what happened was, when I was nine years old, she met a, my mom was a cocktail waitress,

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so she met a gentleman at the bar she was working at, and they got married, and we bought

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a house at Wild Plenty, and everything on the outside seemed real nice.

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I saw the effects produced by alcohol very early on, you know, they would drink on the

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weekends and have parties, and things would go good, I'd watch my stepdad, he'd get sloppily

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drunk, my mom would get pissed, there'd be an argument, he'd pass out, and she, she was

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always the last one up.

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And you know, the arguments, they really affected my sister, not me so much, I wouldn't mind

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doing my own business, but when I was around 12 years old, my stepfather was from Tennessee,

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and he made like, I don't know, I think it was like 20 cases of malt liquor, and he had

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it all bottled in the garage, and I woke up one morning, there was broken glasses in the

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sink, my stepdad was passed out on the couch, and my mom was locked in a room, and I got

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this thought, I'm gonna go get my best friend who lives across the street, and grab two

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six patches of this beer, and we're gonna go up in the hills behind the house and drink

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this stuff.

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And that's what it's all about, you know, and we did that, Kevin and I went back there,

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we climbed up into this old carpentry overlooking the valley, and we, you know, we started drinking

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that beer, and after about the second beer, you know, we started getting the effects of

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it.

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It was a little goofy, and we was joking around, and we basically, one of us lost our balance,

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pulled both of us out, and we landed in a patch of cactus.

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That was, that was the result of the first time I drank alcohol.

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You know, it makes me an alcoholic, I believe, is what happened the next day, because we

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crawled, we went down the hill, his sister pulled a stick down her butt, and we left

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six packs sitting up there, and I'll, you know, go through the only consequences, I

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didn't get caught, my mom didn't know nothing about it, but the first thing that happened

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in the next morning when I woke up was, first thing on my mind is, there's still a six pack

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of beer up there, and somebody needs to drink that.

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So I went across the street to Kevin's house and knocked down his window, and I said, "Hey,

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come on, let's go up and finish that beer."

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And he gave me that look, the first of very many throughout my life, was, "Are you crazy?"

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You know, like, my head hurts, my stomach feels like hell, and I'm still pulling stickers

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out of my butt, and I'm like, "No, no, no, I got a solution to that, we won't get up

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in the tree, we'll sit on the ground and drink it."

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And he refused to go, so I went up there and drank that six pack of beer all by myself.

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And I loved it because it took away, what alcohol did for me is it took away my fears,

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it took away my inhibitions, it made everything okay.

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You know, I didn't care if my mom and my stepdad beat themselves to death anymore, I had no

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concern about that, all I was concerned about was me, you know, and around that time I started

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working for my stepdad's tire store, so I learned how to earn money, and by the time

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I was 16, I didn't drink every day, but I drank as often as I could, and we also started

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smoking pot, sniffing glue, anything to get me out of my own head.

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So by the time I was 16, I had money in the bank, I had a car, and I decided I didn't

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want to live at my mom's house no more because she had rules, and rules didn't apply to me,

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you know.

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So I moved out.

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You know, I did really good in school, I still went to school on my own, so I got an apartment

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out in Convenience, and was going to school until my truck broke down, and work was closer

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to school, so I quit school halfway through my senior year, which I was only supposed

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to go like half-term, because I only had plenty of credits to graduate.

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But when I left home at 16, I had two tools, I had a good work ethic, and I knew how to

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drink and not fall down.

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For me, drinking was a skill, something that you worked on, you know, and like I said,

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I used to watch my mom at the parties, and she'd always be the last one up when everybody

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else was passing out.

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Well, I found out why, she had these little white pills with crosstown solvents that she

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used to take, which, you know, helped her completely great.

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So that was my second tool to add to my drinking.

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I could drink all night with those little white pills, I loved it.

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You know, and my drinking, you know, when I moved out, I basically burned my life to

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the ground by the time I was 18.

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The tire store closed up, my stepdad's drinking, and when he lost that, they started losing

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the house.

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So at 18, I wound up, I lost my own apartment, got kicked out, because I couldn't pay the

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rent anymore, and I was drinking around the clock.

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So my next good idea was, I'm going to join the military.

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And I love the military, I love the structure, it did a lot for me, but also when it also

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showed me that, you know, the military didn't care how much I drank as long as I showed

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up to do my job, you know, which was great.

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I was a helicopter mechanic, I was very good at my job, and, you know, when it came time

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to re-enlist, after two years, they were going to let me go to flight school.

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I passed all the tests, I was going to become a helicopter fighter between one of my dreams,

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you know, but they said, "David, you need to quit drinking," you know, because at the

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time I was getting in a few fights and couldn't see up close, because people would have a

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chance to piss me off sometimes.

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And that's what we did in the military, we drank and we fought, that's, you know, we

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did that for, you know, for entertainment, not that we were mad at each other, because

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we'd get in a fight one day and be best friends and that stuff.

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And that's another thing I loved about alcohol, is that it would make me forget things that

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happened the night before, you know, and so they told me, so I decided, I told the military,

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"No, thank you," you know, "Nobody's going to tell me I haven't lived my life."

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I got European out and I spent the next nine months traveling through Europe to a wine

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festival, a beer festival, wherever there was a party, I went to it, and I loved it.

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When I come back from the military, I got into construction very early on and started

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making a lot of money, you know, and now when I was 22 years old, I wanted to get six drunk

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drive-ins in one year in three different counties.

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Back then, you can't, you can get away with back then, but not now.

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I got three first defenses, one in L.A., one in San Bernardino, and one in Orange County.

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And then about two months later, I got one in each one of those counties again.

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And what my solution to that was just a little white powder called cocaine, you know, so

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I got a problem, I never got another drunk drive-in again.

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But what I did do was I got a cocaine habit that took probably every dime I earned for

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the next 15 years, because I was doing cocaine alcoholically because I wanted to drink like

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I wanted to drink, so I had to enhance that with that substance, and I couldn't snort

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it no more because I burned a hole in my nose, so this guy got me out of free vacation.

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You know, I was working, I was a heavy equipment operator and a bike layer for a big underground

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company, and I was making a lot of money, I was making $3,000 to $4,000 a week, you

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know, and nobody told me what to do with that money, so basically I'd buy case, Scott's

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Buy the Case, he's gonna buy cocaine by the pound because God knows I don't want to run

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out.

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And you know, my 20s was a lot of fun, making a lot of money and living irresponsibly is

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a lot of fun, went to a lot of music festivals, went to Vegas a lot, a lot of concerts, a

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lot of parties, went out six nights a week, I mean, it was kind of a blur.

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Honestly, I don't know how I survived it, but things started getting pretty shaky towards

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the end of the 80s, I mean, between '86 and '89.

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By this time, I'm smoking a quarter ounce of cocaine and I'm drinking around the clock,

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and I'm still working 12 to 15 hour days, you know, on my job.

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My solution to being on the job is, you know, we were working in San Diego, I was living

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in Cucamonga, so I had this bright idea, why am I paying rent here, I bought a trigger

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and I moved my trigger on the job, so when we were working, that's where I lived, and

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we always had our compound right next to a bar, which is always convenient.

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And like I said, I started having seizures from smoking coke, because of the amount I

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was doing, and not sleeping, I was probably sleeping eight hours a week if I was lucky,

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and that was more or less laying down and vibrating.

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I would not do cocaine at work, I did crystal meth at work, but I still drank around the

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clock because I always had a nice dress with me, full of beer and a bottle of Eggemeister,

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because that was my go-to by that time.

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You know, I was going to say, I don't know how I survived it.

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In '89, I got a little scared, because I had a couple seizures in one night, of course

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my girlfriend left, because I destroyed every relationship I ever got into, because they

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would ask those hard questions, like, why do you drink so much, why are you doing so

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much drugs, and if you start asking me those questions, you gotta go, you know, including

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my family.

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I basically abandoned my family, because they kept asking me the same questions.

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And the honest truth is, I didn't have an answer for me, which is why I, you know, which

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is why I didn't answer them, and I got to get them out of my life, because I can't answer

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that question.

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Why do I drink so much?

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Because of what it does for me, you know, again, gave me that ease of comfort, it made

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my perception of life seem manageable, so to speak, I guess, I don't know, it was insane.

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So anyway, in '89, I got a little scared, so I talked up my stuff, threw it in my truck,

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and of course I drove to Mama's house and said, "Mama, I need to get some help."

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We went over to the West Side VA to a 28-day program there, you know, and I've got to be

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honest with you, I never intended on quick drinking, but I had to get rid of that cocaine

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head, because I knew it was killing me, and what happened was, it was a 28-day program,

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I was in there on the second day talking to a conditioner who worked over in UCLA, and

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for the first time I was honest about my drug use and my drinking to somebody, and she told

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me that they had this research thing going on over at UCLA for chronic cocaine users,

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and that would I like to join the research, and I'm like, "Well sure, I'm thinking she's

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going to give me this magic answer to solve my drug addiction."

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What happened was, for the next seven days, they paid me $300 a day to smoke crack while

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they observed me, and had me answer questions, I mean, it was great, you know, and I'd go

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back to the rehab, I'd go back to the rehab that night, and of course at an interview,

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they had no idea what I was doing over there, you know, and somebody would bring an H9 to

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an ambulance, so I'm sitting in the back there, blah blah blah blah, thinking about, you know,

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what time is it, are we going back to UCLA yet?

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So after that seven days, I asked if they had any other research things going on, and

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they said, "Well we got this one for chronic marijuana smoking, well I haven't spoken pot

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for 30 years, so I joined on that one for, that one was 12 days, and that one only paid

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me $100 a day, unfortunately."

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So basically what I got out of that rehab was about $3200 in my pocket because I collected

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some disability, and I had this brand new plan, you know, this clinician told me, "David,

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you're not going to quit until you're tired of living the way you're living."

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And you know, I heard her, but I didn't hear her, so my new plan was, my problem is construction,

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I make too much money for my own good, you know, I had no bank account because I closed

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my bank account a long time ago, because I always had warrants after my arrest, you know,

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people were always looking for me, at least in my mind.

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And so my new plan was, I'm going to go to school, get a license to carry a gun, I'm

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going to move to Vegas and become an armed spirit, I love Vegas, you can create for free

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in Vegas, you know, that's a plan, you know, and I'll get away from the cocaine, you know,

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this plan sounded really good to me.

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So I did exactly that, I went out to Vegas, I still had like $3500, you know, in my pocket,

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I got a hotel room, I go to the room, I grab the six pack of beer, I'm sitting there sipping

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on the beer, smoking cigarette, watching the sun come down, the guy next door to me comes

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out of the room blowing out these big puffle whites, well, it's no great familiar.

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Long story short, three days later, I'm living underneath the bridge behind the Plaza Hotel

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with my duffel bag, wondering what the hell happened again.

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You know, I spent the next 10 years underneath that bridge, believe it or not, you know,

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I still worked every day, I would, you know, I'd go out and I'd get day labored, I hooked

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up with some guys, because I'm a hell of a worker, I could not work with two or three

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people and I'm very talented with what I do, you know, but the minute that money would

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hit my hand, it was like, it was a long day, I deserve a couple beers, I could have a couple

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beers.

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Yeah, and I'd go in and I'd have a couple beers and then I'd have a couple of shots

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a day, and actually I know I'm stepping out the door and talking to the next few behind

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the bar, picking up another quarter of your crap, and actually I know it's four o'clock

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in the morning, and this went on for 10 years, day in, day out, and I gotta tell you, you

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know, living on the streets and being around people that are on the streets, you see human

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beings do some horrible things to each other, I mean, I don't know, alcohol helped me survive

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that, because I don't think if I was drinking, I could have, I would have did what a friend

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of mine did one night, I was sitting up underneath the bridge and I used to drink with this guy

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by the railroad tracks, and I seen him walking down the tracks one night about one o'clock

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in the morning, drunk as a scoundrel, and I saw him laying down on the tracks and throwing

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his blanket over him, 10 minutes later, the Amtrak took him away, you know, and my thought

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was like, okay, we're gonna put that back here, if it ever gets that bad, you know,

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that'd look painless, but you know, what happened was how I got off the streets out there was

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my mom got sick with her diabetes, and apparently I'd given my sister a number of a guide that

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I worked for in Vegas, and he came downtown to downtown Las Vegas and found me sitting

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in the clock on a del on Sunday, which is where I spent my Sundays, because I had champagne

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brunch for free, and told me I had to get home to see my mom's student dying, he bought

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me a plane ticket, because I didn't have anybody, and God bless his family, I had to go back

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and do an event with him, I'll get to that in a minute, because that's kind of funny,

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but I went back home, you know, I went to my, I went and saw my mom at the hospital,

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she died the next day, you know, when she saw me, and you know, my brother and sister,

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they basically, I have a little brother that's 11 years younger than me, and they helped

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clean out the house, and then they left, and so I stayed there with my stepdad, and we

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decided to buy a house over in Whittier, and at this time when I came back, I, you know,

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I got rid of the cocaine habit, I just quit cocaine, I just couldn't do it no more, but

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I went back, you know, I never stopped drinking, but I did get away from the anger, I just

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went to, you know, maintaining, I guess you would call controlling my, controlling and

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enjoying my drink, or I was controlling it, because I wasn't enjoying it, because when

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you drink like that, it just makes it worse, as far as I'm concerned.

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My problem when I don't drink the way I want to drink, is I'm left with every reason why

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I did, and I'm left with all the things that I did in my past that I can't live with, because

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I was a liar, a cheat, and a thief, and I hurt a lot of people along the way, a lot

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of them, there were strangers, no, you would think hurting a stranger wouldn't bother you,

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but when you wake up with that on your mind in the morning, I get a drink, I've got to

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make that stuff go down, and I thought I'd drowned all that crap, but all of a sudden

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this stuff starts floating through the top every morning, and that's how I'm waking up,

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you know.

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I used to call waking up pissed off, my sponsor called me restless, irritable, and discontent,

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you know, I'm like, that's it, I've been waking up that way for years, you guys have words

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for this, what happened here?

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And so over the next six years, I was living there one year with my stepfather, my mom

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had died, my stepfather worked 37 years for his school district, and when he retired,

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basically, he was drunk, basically, he'd wake up in the morning, have a cup of coffee, and

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then he'd drink beer all day long, scratch in the evening, and then pass out, and you

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know, and I'm watching him, his health go to hell, and I'm watching him, you know, drink

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himself to death, mind you, I'm in the garage doing my thing, and by this time, after about

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the second year, in Whittier, like I said, my drink was somewhat controllable for about

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six months, and then I thought, yeah, you might stream back into the picture, because

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I love that stuff, it gets me there, I could time, I could take two shots, and I could

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time it, it's like, after about two minutes, it's like, oh, here we are, the problem is

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that you just gotta maintain that throughout the day, oh, and my sister moved to, moved

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to Kansas, so basically, I felt like I was stuck with my stepdad, and I'm watching him

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drink himself to death, basically, I'm looking at my future, and I got on December 1st of

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2006, I woke up very irritable, very discontent, my stepfather just got out of the hospital

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with pneumonia, he's smoking two packs a day, and he's still drinking throughout the day,

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you know, throughout the day, and I went to the garage, I called my sister, cussed her

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out, knocked my sister about nine o'clock at night, I found myself inside that house,

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cussing my stepfather out, telling him how he ruined my life, how he caused my mother's

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death, and if he didn't straighten his shit out, I was gonna dig a hole and throw his

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ass in, which probably wasn't very smart, I was holding on to handheld crossbow, which

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I modified to shoot 60 and couldn't get under the stucco wall, and I wasn't gonna shoot

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him with it, you know, I think he took it all wrong, but long story short, an hour later

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I was arrested for assault with a deadly weapon, a felony assault on an elder, and a felony

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terrorist stretch, I woke up from one year in jail, asking the judge, what the hell,

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it was just a drunken army, you know, in my mind, I mean, I could picture the whole thing,

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I didn't see what the problem was, but now I'm looking at six years in prison, you know,

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and they had me up at Wayside for, they gave me six months, six years of felony probation,

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with a six year suspended sentence hanging over my head, and they let me out of jail

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on January 1st of 2006, they should have released me earlier, but I had a restraining order

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hearing on the 29th, so they wanted to make sure I was locked up, that I didn't make it

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to the restraining order hearing, so when I got out of there, I basically had to close

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on my back, because in that 30 day period, my stepfather got rid of all my tools, got

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rid of my truck, all my clothes, and had a three year restraining order in Michigan,

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the only other person that would actually talk to me was my natal father in San Bernardino,

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I spent the next 26 days across the street, and this guy that I smoked crystal meth, he

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was living in their garage, trying to come up with another plan, because this was not

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the first time that I've burnt my life to the ground, I had done it several times over

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the years, but something was different this time, I couldn't come up with another excuse,

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you know, or drink myself up into, drink myself into another plan, and what happened was,

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you know, on the 27th, I was tired and I was desperate, and this girl that was living in

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the house, I saw her, she stashed a bunch of sleeping pills, and I got a hold of them,

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drank those things down, I wrote in the back of this bible that I brought back from jail,

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and, you know, God, I have no family to speak of, contact the VA, they'll get rid of the

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bottom, but I washed those pills down with the cordia in my suit.

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What happened with that was about three hours later, apparently after I tore that garage

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apart, took the shelves down, I, yeah, Irene come into the garage and said, "David, you

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gotta go," and I walked out of that garage cold stone, so we went up, I need to get to

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San Bernardino, talk to my dad, and I need to get myself some help, because I knew there

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was a VA out there in San Bernardino level, which is actually where I was born, and, you

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know, I wanted to get some help.

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When I got to my dad's, my step-mom, of course, I called my half-brother and half-sister,

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and that Sunday morning, they had a little pow-wow at church about what are they going

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to do with David because I showed up.

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They knew my dad wouldn't ask me to leave, for a lot of reasons, a lot of it was his

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own guilt for not being in my life for a lot of it, and I, you know, I played on that.

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What happened was this friend of his family that I knew when we were kids, a guy named

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Raymond P., showed up at church that day, and got into a conversation, and he asked

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him, "Wait a minute, before you guys go attack him, let me talk to him."

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You know, Raymond came to the help house, and as far as last time I saw Raymond, he

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was living on the streets of San Bernardino, the help was harrowing that.

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I honestly thought he'd be dead.

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When he told me, "David, if you want some help, I went to this program called New Directions

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at Westside VA, it's a year-long program.

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They've got a lawyer that will help you out with your legal issues.

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Do you want to go?"

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Yeah, I mean, Raymond looked great, and so I said yes.

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Now alcohol can play there, too, because they were going to get me right up to that Sunday

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morning, and before we got in the car, I had to stop at the liquor store and get me a half-pinty

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a divisor and get me a 24-ounce Budweiser, and I'd drive taffeta drinks to Aberdeen

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and Brentwood to get me through that front door, because what you didn't see, a little

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disclaimer, this is not what I looked like when I walked into that program.

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I had hair all the way down my back, I had a mustache down to here, I had four teeth

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up in my head, and what you couldn't see is I had a hole in my soul that you could drive

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the truck through, and I was desperate, you know, desperate enough to ask for help, probably

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for the first time in my life, you know, and out of that desperation, I found the ability

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to hear somebody else.

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I went up to detox that night, a six-foot-four black man sat across the table from me, and

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he looked me straight in the eye and said, "David, your problem's not drugs and alcohol,

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your problem's you."

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And I slid back in my chair, and I'm like, "How the hell can you say that?

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You don't even know me."

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And for the next 10 minutes, this man went on to tell me about how he lived on the streets

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of Compton, pushing a cart, drinking and smoking every day when he didn't want to.

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You know, he had a big book, an old big book sitting in front of him, and he slid across

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to me and said, "I found myself in that book, I think you're playing yourself."

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And I tried to give it back to him, he said, "No, I want you to keep this."

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And he said, "I want you to pass that on to me as you help other people."

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You know, and I'm grateful for that program.

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It was a year-long program, a lot of it's structured, to say the least.

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We weren't allowed to go anywhere for 30 days, and anywhere we went for the next six months,

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we had to have somebody else with us, nothing alone.

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But what that program did for me is it gave me time to work this program like it's designed

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in the big book.

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After about 30 days, I went to a meeting over in Brentwood.

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It was a three-person panel, and I see it as gratitude now, but at the time, this was

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like my second AA meeting.

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These people were emotional and crying in the beginning, the middle, and the end of

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the story.

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And I'm like, "Oh, God, shoot me now.

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If I'm going to do this the rest of my life, I'm going to drink."

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And then the next week, one of the guys in the house talked about going to this meeting

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on the other end of campus, which was Sunday night, Ohio.

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You know, and I walked into that room.

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I got greeted at the front door with this long greeting line, you know, with smiles,

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very welcoming.

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I go out to the parking lot, people are laughing and joking.

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I'm like, "I don't know what the hell they're doing here, but I could do this."

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You know, and I've been part of that meeting for the last 19 years, and that became my

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home group, Pacific Room became my home group.

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I got a sponsor over on that wall, you know, and I didn't know it at the time, but he

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only had like two months to ride.

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But what he did have was 15 years in and out of AA, and so he walked me through the book

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as his design.

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But what he also did is he shared his mistakes with me, you know, and he helped me build

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a solid foundation.

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I stayed in that program for a year, not because I wanted to, because at six months, I was

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well.

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I was ready to go and start going to work, put my life back together, and he's like,

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"David, why don't you finish what you started?

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Have you ever finished what you started?"

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You know, and that hit home.

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He'd ask those questions again that I didn't have answers for.

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I couldn't deny what he was saying.

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And Mark and I walked this path.

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He taught me how to be a service dentist, you know.

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We had some old-timers in our group that got sick, and he had me, by the minute I got a

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truck, he had me go picking them up, bringing them to meetings.

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And those old-timers saved my life, because they not only shared the blessing to alcoholics

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anonymous, but they also shared, you know, the mistakes that they made in hopes that

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I wouldn't cause more damage.

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Just my friend Gary used to tell me, "You're going to make the same mistakes."

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But hopefully, if I can give you a heads up, you won't, you know, won't have to make

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as many events as I did.

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And being a service, it saved my butt, you know, in more ways than one.

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I got involved with the SoCal convention.

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I went to my first SoCal in 2007, and I made the mistake of telling my sponsor how much

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I enjoyed it, and he's totally made this investment.

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Well, in January, they have planning meetings the second Sunday of every month, why don't

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you go there and see how they put a convention together.

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And I've been doing that since then.

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In 2023, they voted me as chairman, if you want to call it that.

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Basically, I guess it was my turn.

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They nominated me, and then they closed nominations.

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It didn't sound like much of a, didn't sound like I had much of a choice, but I love that

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because it really opened up my fellowship beyond my whole group.

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I mean, I go on to the Pacific group, which is a huge group, but I can go anywhere and

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feel the part of like, you know, I was looking for this place.

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Just before I got to the driveway, I see one of the guys in the suit and another guy standing

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there, so I said, "Okay, here's where I'm going."

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You know, it's during COVID.

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I couldn't stay in the Zoom meeting, so I, you know, I was, I go to the beach every morning

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and watch the sun come up because I live in Santa Monica, number one.

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Oh, but that's where I talk to God every morning.

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You know, I share my plan with God, and I say, "Okay, what do you got?"

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You know, but, you know, my life is, well, my point as far as the convention goes, in

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2023, I was chairman of SoCal Convention.

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If you don't think God has a sense of humor.

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The real funny thing about that is on the property where we had the convention at, which

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was city of industry, was, oh, probably a block, block and a half more I grew up on.

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It was on that property when I was 12 years old when I picked my first drink, and 55 years

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later, I'm leading a meeting with 2,000 people, and it was all synonymous.

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Yeah, I mean, it's like going full circle, but it was, you know, for me, it was really

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amazing to wake up in the morning, I'm looking out at the balcony on the 11th floor, and

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I'm looking at my junior high school where I used to drink beer at lunchtime when I was

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in seventh grade, you know, and now I'm sitting up there leading an AA convention.

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And it's just by showing up, I'm nothing special, you know.

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My first sponsor of mine died at four and a half years, he took another drink, you know,

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and within a year, he was dead.

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And when he got me, when I got him as a sponsor, he gave me his phone number.

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He gave me this gentleman named David, David Alman, and so on, and he gave me this guy

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named Tom B, his phone number.

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I'm like, okay, I've got yours.

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Well, who are these two guys?

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He said, that's my sponsor, that's his sponsor.

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Anything happens to me, you go to him.

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Anything happens to him, you go to him.

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Tom B is my sponsor now, because two years ago, my sponsor of 14 years, he gave it out

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and he passed away from health complications.

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But what that man did for me, not only, not from what he said, but through his actions,

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Tom would have lived, you know, in gratitude every day, no matter what's going on.

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My father got sick and I went to the hospital and go see him, you know, he's laying in this

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bed and it didn't look like my father.

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He was old, he was emancipated, and I got scared.

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That was probably the closest I've ever had to taking a drink.

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And I went outside and called my sponsor up now, and of course he answered the phone and

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he went on to share with me almost the exact same thing that happened with his father.

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And what he told me was, he said, David, there's nothing you can do for him.

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He says, your job is to make your family feel better, but also the most important thing

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is to let your father know that you're going to be okay if he leaves, you know, to give

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him the peace of mind to be able to leave this earth without worrying about you.

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Because what I didn't understand when I got, when I was out there drinking is the harm

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I did to my family.

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My family didn't know where I was at 99% of the damn time.

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And when I did show up, I had a bunch, I was either in jail, going to jail, broke, you

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know, I needed something.

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And when my life was going good, there was nowhere, I was nowhere to be found, you know?

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And that's, that's the selfish and self-segregation that I didn't think I had, you know, but I

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did and Alcoholics Anonymous has helped me to make all that right.

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You know, my little brother got married in Kansas, I think I was about six years sober.

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My niece came up to me and she had a couple glasses of wine and she looked at me and she

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gave me a hug.

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She said, Uncle David, I used to hate you.

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I'm like, what, what did I ever do to you?

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She said, David, growing up, my mom used to cry herself to sleep every night not knowing

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where you were at.

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My sister and I were very close and I didn't, you know, I didn't know I affected her up

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bringing to that extent, you know, this woman don't drink because of what she saw, you know,

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myself and her mother.

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You know, a couple of years ago, my sister got sick.

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She had cancer, she beat it.

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And, and then it came back.

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And when I got the news, I jumped on a plane.

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I actually bought two plane tickets, called my niece up and we flew to Kansas and she

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was in hospice for a while.

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Then she got better, you know, cancer had spread everywhere and she didn't want any

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more treatment.

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And so my niece, I asked my niece, I said, what do you want to do?

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And she said, I want to bring her home.

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But I said, okay, let's go.

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Where are we going to put her?

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I'm like in my apartment.

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I said, I got a two bedroom apartment.

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My sister spent her last two months in my house.

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The first month was alright because we used to be able to go to the beach and be conscious

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most of the time.

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But the second month, you know, she basically figured the way.

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But the day she died, I get up that morning just before I got to the beach, I go in the

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bedroom and I brush her hair and ask her how she was doing.

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And her last words to me was, David, thank you.

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I'm at peace.

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You know, and that's, that's, that's all synonymous.

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I couldn't have done that without what I was taught this year.

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So if you're new, please stay around.

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You've got to get a life in front of you.

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Thank you.