From Street Survival to Sobriety: Garrett's Journey with AA
S25:E15

From Street Survival to Sobriety: Garrett's Journey with AA

Episode description

Garrett shares his tumultuous upbringing in a broken home, early immersion in drugs and crime, and the darkest moments in jail before a turning point at a treatment center on March 17, 2013. Embracing Alcoholics Anonymous, he found support through his sponsor Lance and a newfound sense of purpose, describing the relief of stepping onto the program’s podium.

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My name is Garrett, I'm an alcoholic.

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And my name is Garrett, I'm an alcoholic.

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And thank you for having me come out tonight

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and share the meeting.

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Thank you for opening it up for me.

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I absolutely just love Alcoholics Anonymous.

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I love being where there's a gavel,

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like I'm in a courtroom.

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And I like it that there's lights on this podium.

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I never had that before in the podium.

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So that's pretty new.

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But I'll share with you a couple of important names.

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My home group is the Raptors out there in Santa Clarita.

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That is my home group.

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My sponsor's name is Lance Rodriguez.

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And I should buy these 317, 2013.

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I'm forever grateful for that day.

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And I'm gonna share in a general way

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what it was like, what happened, and what it's like now.

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And I feel really tall 'cause I'm on a step.

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I'm already tall and like I'm on this.

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And I'm like, "Damn, I feel good."

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You know, like I'm up here today.

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And I absolutely, I didn't come in here

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with like no passion, no energy,

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no love for a program that I didn't know.

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I didn't come in here thinking that I wanted to see God,

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meet God, be with God, pray to God or anything like that.

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And I simply landed in the treatment center

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on March 17th of 2013.

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And all I wanted to do is I wanted to stop using

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and drinking the way I was.

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I wanted to stop going to prison.

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I wanted to stop, I wanted to stop.

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I wanted to be a dad to my daughter.

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I wanted to be able to talk to my dad.

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I wanted a driver's license, maybe some kind of a job.

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I wanted something other than what I was getting at this point

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was at this point on March 17th of 2013.

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Man, I had absolutely nothing in my life.

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Every time I take a drink, hit or fix,

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and I put it inside my system,

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I'm sure that I'll have a whole bunch more.

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And I came from a broken home, raised by my mom,

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parents divorced at five.

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My sister at the age of eight went to live with my dad.

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I stayed with my mom.

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I went through all these, I went through the typical,

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you know, my mom's an addict, my dad's an alcoholic.

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I used with my mom.

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I used with mostly all my family members.

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And I went from house to house.

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I moved, you know, sometimes, you know,

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like every other month or every two to three months,

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because my mom didn't know.

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My mom didn't know how to be responsible

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and pay rent on time.

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So we just stayed in until we get kicked out.

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I was one of those kids I can turn your gas on.

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I can get the power for you.

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I can talk into the neighbors, you know,

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inter-cable to hook up your TV.

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I knew how to do all those type of things

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at a very young age.

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And, you know, so it was no big deal

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when I go to people's houses

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and like their electricity's off and I do,

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I can turn this back on for you.

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You know, not a problem, man.

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They're like, man, we have no gas.

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I'm like, well, let's go turn it back.

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All we gotta do is break this lock off.

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You know, don't even worry about it.

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You know, and, you know, and by the time I was a ninth,

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you know, by the time I was a freshman in high school,

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I, you know, I started hanging out with some guys that,

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you know, that, that, that loved going to jail

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and loved selling drugs and loved running the streets.

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And by the time, you know, my freshman year in high school,

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and that was the path I went, man.

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I, I drank in smoking weed and, and, and methamphetamine.

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I have a light bulb in a laundry room

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on an apartment complex was just like my thing, man.

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Like you thought I lived in these apartments,

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but I just stayed in the laundry room, you know,

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and I just stayed in the laundry room.

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It was like, it was a cool spot.

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And I stole your light bulbs and I smoked meth, you know,

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and like, and I'd ride my bicycle around, you know,

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I hung out at Circle K.

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I played Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and, you know,

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and, and man, I thought it was a really good life.

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And a couple of years later down the road,

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like I'm losing my teeth and I'm losing like, you know,

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I don't know nothing about hygiene

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'cause I had no father figure in my life.

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I didn't really care about what I wore,

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what my shoes were and then like that.

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What I cared about is putting something in the system

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so I can be any place but right here and right now.

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And I continued to chase that

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and I continued to put stuff inside me.

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And I was like, you know what, man, I'll never,

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I'll never smoke crack, you know, and I smoked crack.

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Then even worse, I smoked crack when I was in jail.

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And if you guys want to know some stressful times, man,

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nice, have you ever been in a jail cell and smoked crack

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and had to play possum with your, with your,

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like, I was like, it was, it was driving me crazy

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'cause he kept on holding the crack pipe on my hit,

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you know, and that was the worst.

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I was like, damn, didn't I hit it?

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He'd be like, shh, I want to hit it, you know,

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I don't care if they're walking right now, you know,

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and, and, you know, and I thought, you know what,

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I thought, man, I also got, too, I thought, you know,

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I thought when I get inside the jail system,

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like, I don't want to carry on like how my life was outside.

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Like, I don't want to drink pruno.

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I don't want to, I don't want to get loaded

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while I'm inside jails and institutions

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and my life on the outside and my life on the inside

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was full of drugs and alcohol and every which way.

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And I sold it on the streets.

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I sold it inside the systems.

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Like, I have this like, no, I, you know, by that time,

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I was like, you know, 18 years old.

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I had 160 traffic tickets.

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I had a car that looked like it was just dying

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of the disease just like me and I bought this car

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when I was like 15 years old over a drug deal

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and somebody's backyard and like, I, and like,

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I just drove the crap out of this car

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and it is, it always started up, man.

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This car, oh, it didn't matter how bad it would,

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but this car always started up no matter what, man.

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And like one time I wouldn't start

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and it was just because I was out of gas, you know,

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like once again, I don't pay attention to gauges, man.

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You know, someone was like, did you put gas in here?

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I was like, man, maybe it can't, it can't be that,

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you know, it can't be that, you know,

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and it was just out of gas, you know,

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and I keep a picture in that car of that car

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inside my big book, you know,

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and 'cause I got a picture of that car after,

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I've been up for too many days

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and I had 160 traffic tickets in it

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and that one day someone gave me some tools

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and the only thing I had to take part with my own car.

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And so in my backyard was full of tumbleweeds

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and was full of me just taking apart this car

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and then for somehow, some odd reason,

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someone took a picture of me out there with that car

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and to this day I got that picture and it's in my big book

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and it reminds me 'cause I always say this, man,

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like I come out of my house,

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I'm usually never in my house but a trap house,

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I never really had a house,

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even my own home felt like a trap house

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and people standing in trailers in the backyard

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or tents on one side, trailers on the other,

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you know, we didn't have like a lot of stuff going on.

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I come to or wake up or whatever it is that day

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and I come outside and I see this car,

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it was a 1977 Toyota Celica and I look at it

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and I'm like, this fucking piece of junk, dude.

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I did not like it, man, I hated it.

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I hated everything about it

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'cause I know that every time I hop in this car,

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I'm gonna get in trouble and something's gonna happen

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and yet I hop inside of it, man,

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and I pull out a screwdriver to start it.

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I had to kick the door to open it.

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Everything in the car just vibrated and shook

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and sometimes if you take a corner,

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the door would fly open and it was like,

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people would be like, dude, this is a death trap.

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You're like, it's not that bad.

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Like, it's not a death trap, you know.

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The tires did, the tires were not the same,

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the wheels did not match, like the interior,

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it smelled like either like, you know,

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it just smelled weird, like gasoline on the inside,

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like you weren't sure, you know,

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but it always started and I go down,

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I take this car and eating given morning

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when I come to or anything like that, man,

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and I go down to the liquor store and I give me a bottle

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and I drive down to the connection's house

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and I park a couple blocks down

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'cause it was one of those cars that I drove

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and had so many tickets,

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like the cops would just follow that car around

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and be like, this house we're gonna hit.

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So I have to park way down the street

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and it goes through the desert

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and hop down this, you know, goalie

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and I pop up in your backyard and I get loaded

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and then I, you know, by sundown,

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I make my way back over to the car

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and it's like I turn a corner and I see that car.

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Man, it's like, it's like, damn, this car's like classic.

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And it seemed like the more I drank and it used,

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the more I see this car in a whole different form.

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It was like the sounds that I made, I did not hear.

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And it seemed like, and it just seemed like all the tires,

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even though they didn't match, like when I,

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like the more I drank, the more he's like hopping this car

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and it just seemed like it was go straight down the road,

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man, and that's the way it is for my life, man.

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It's like the more I drink and the more I use,

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more all that stuff out there just seems the same.

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It just, it just seemed normal to me, you know?

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And that car, man, I took it apart and I was like,

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I woke up and I was like, why did I do that?

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Why did I do that?

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You know, like, why did I, damn,

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can I put it back together, you know?

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And I'm 18 years old, 19 years old.

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I started doing prison time, started doing jail time,

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YA time, county time, prison time.

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By the time I'm 23, I'm getting out of, you know,

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I'm getting out of jail.

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I'm having a little girl and like, I cannot stay sober.

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I couldn't, I could not put a drink.

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I cannot stop putting a drink, hit or fix inside my system.

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And it didn't matter if I was having a baby,

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if my grandma was dying or anything like that.

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Like I did not show up for anything,

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any of my responsibilities, anything I needed to be done,

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I surely did not do.

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And I'm sitting there and my mom's calling me,

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telling me that I have a little girl in the hospital.

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And I, and it just did not interest.

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What interested me was me when I dropped her off

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at the hospital and I told her,

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I'm gonna go outside and smoke a cigarette.

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I went outside, I smoked a cigarette.

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I ended up over at Bobby's house down around the corner.

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And I was in his garage for the next three days.

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And I was just, I was just getting loaded.

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That little girl came out, beautiful little thing

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and drove her home, couldn't stay home.

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For the next nine years, that little girl's life,

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man, I was in and out of prison.

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And I, you know, this is what I do is I get out of jail,

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get out of prison, I parole, my mom would have her.

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The first time I get out, you know, I'd be like,

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oh, I'm not gonna go back.

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And I build all this trust up

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and I build all this relationship up.

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And she, you know, I have some time with her

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and then while she sleeps,

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I'll be out running the streets and I get busted.

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I wanna come back to three to four or five more years.

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Then I do that same cycle again.

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And I do that same cycle again.

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And she no longer called me, she no longer called me dad,

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she called me Garrett.

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She no longer even wanted me around to sit by her,

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eat with her, be in the same house as her.

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Like she, if I came in the house just to sit there

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'cause I'm wanting to build this,

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like it's like the only thing I wanted

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until I got loaded and then I didn't want it no more.

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One day I told her, man, I built it all back up.

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She's over, she's like six, seven years old.

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And I just told her, I was like, you know,

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dad will be right back to watch this movie with you.

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I'm just gonna run down the street real quick.

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I didn't come back for a couple of years.

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My disease, man, is that I tried multiple institutions

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and multiple rehabs and multiple places like that.

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And I couldn't stay.

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Like I really like, I wanted it.

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Like I read these steps, I hear people's stories.

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Like I, all this stuff, like it intrigued me.

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Everything about the program of Alcoholics Anonymous

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or our NA or CA, anything like that.

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Like all that unity within all the programs, man.

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Like it really, really, really,

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really captured me on the outside.

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I go to a treatment center.

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I wanna wear like, you know, we all share clothes.

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We all would share everything.

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We all go to meetings and we all would just, you know,

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come to a meeting and we all just, you know,

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be in this sort of group and we, you know,

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like in everything and it felt good.

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And it's, and my guys are just, you know, just like, man,

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and none of us would stay, no matter how bad we wanted it.

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2012, I get out, man, by this time,

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I stopped talking to my dad and my little sister.

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My, everyone I talked to was my mom.

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Everyone I talked to was my mom

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'cause she gets loaded like me.

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And I get out, I get loaded with my mom

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and I get loaded with my mom.

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I get drunk on the bus back to my hometown.

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I get loaded as soon as I saw my mom.

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And once I got loaded from seeing my mom,

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I'd be running with the homeboys

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and it was just a matter of time before I'm busted again.

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I go back into prison and I was like, man,

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I'm never gonna put a needle in my arm,

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but here I am selling drugs in prison.

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I'm doing these drops, I'm doing all these things.

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And all of a sudden, man, the one thing comes in,

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I'm sitting there in my cell.

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I just did a drop and this guy breaks the pipe

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and I look up my buddy, man, and I get a syringe

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and I stab myself in the needle.

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And I thought, this is only gonna stay

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inside the prison system.

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I'm not gonna do this when I get out.

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When I got out, man, I couldn't keep a syringe out.

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That means that I had track marks all over my body.

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And that means that the level of I don't care about anything

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other than getting loaded was just like that.

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The only thing I cared about was getting loaded.

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I didn't care, I didn't wanna see my daughter.

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I didn't wanna see my family.

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I don't wanna work.

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I didn't want no responsibilities.

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All I wanted to do was I just wanted to,

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I had that disease the more.

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In 2012, I ended up in a treatment center.

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It wasn't because I wanted to go

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or they issued me to go, it was that I went to jail

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and they said, you know, all your old cases expire,

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whatever like that.

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So we're gonna send you to this drug treatment program.

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And I went to this place and I absolutely loved it.

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It was just like, it was a hotel.

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It was co-ed, it was a whole lot better than jail.

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And I was just able to go in there and co-medial

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and do all this stuff.

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And I really got, man, like I got me a sponsor.

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I worked some steps.

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I got involved in some fellowship.

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I did some service commitments.

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I did all this stuff.

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I did everything they told me to do there.

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Moment I left there, I got local.

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And it was like, I was on this train ride

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from Pomona to Antelope Valley.

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And I felt like I wasn't sick.

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I wasn't hungry.

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I wasn't thirsty.

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I just have this thing inside my stomach.

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I couldn't recall it.

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Like I knew it, even though I wanted to die.

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Like something was inside of me and I felt it, man.

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And as soon as somebody gave me the offer, man,

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I had no defense against that first drink hit or fix, man.

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The first thing I did is I grabbed it.

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I drank it and I was like, damn, I just messed up.

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I got out of jail on December 28th of 2012.

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My life is in shreds.

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I have nothing going on on the outside world.

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And on Valentine's Day of 2013,

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I got track marks from my ankles up to my neck

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all the way down my arms.

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I got bandanas wrapped around my arms.

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I turned the bathrooms at chevrons and AM/PMs.

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I turned them into my prison cell

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and I go in there for one or two hours.

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And it's just like a big old scene inside the bathroom

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and fearing the disease and you know what I'm talking about.

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And on that morning on Valentine's Day,

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a person shooting at me on the streets,

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a person shooting at me and I run after him.

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I tried to catch him.

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I tried to throw him this brick at him.

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I threw my arm out and my clothes are too big.

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It's just like everything's not making sense.

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And I call that person on those gangsters call

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when we get in trouble.

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I call my mom and it's loaded with my mom.

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My mom draws me off at this liquor store

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on I and 15th Street West in Lancaster.

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And I go inside, I get me a bottle and I go to my hideout.

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And an off-duty officer saw me coming from that house

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to the, from that liquor store to that house.

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And they just knocked down every window,

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every door that came in deep

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and they arrested me one more time.

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I go in jail, I'm drinking hand sanitizer

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with top ramen packs on it.

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And I'm eating happy cards

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and I'm running the circles around the jail system.

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And from March 17th to 2013, I arrived at a treatment.

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I don't know, like for people who were in and out

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of treatments and in and like that,

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like we can't, nobody could have told me

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that was gonna be the day.

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It's something like that, that utterly,

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that defeat that they talk about, man,

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that that's something deep down inside yourself

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that you really, really, really want something different, man.

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And I got, I really, really deep down inside me

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wanted something different.

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And I'm sitting there beside this treatment center lobby

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off this bus and I got my see-through blue jumpsuit,

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bright green maxes on, and I'm in a position

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I've been in too many times.

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And that's with my hands on my head

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and my elbows on my knees.

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I'm like, how'd I get here again?

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I had no way out.

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I had no, no left, no left turns, no right turns.

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I'm just, I have to be, I'm just accepted.

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And I'm in that position where I have to accept

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right where I'm at.

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And that person came through the lobby door that I knew

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and his name was Levi.

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And Levi said, "Hey, Garrett, man."

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He said, "Hey, big bro, man."

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He's like, "Hey, so good to see you."

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And he came up to me and gave me this big,

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old, warm, welcoming hug.

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And I'm not talking about one of those hugs that you get,

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like, you know, from some person you have.

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And like, he came up and he put his arms around me

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and he hugged me and it's like, I felt his heartbeat.

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And he hugged me for like 30 seconds to a minute, man.

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And then the next thing he says is this is,

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"I really hope you stay."

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And there was something about that hug that I got

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from this other guy, man, that had nine months,

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that I knew from the streets that I didn't time with,

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I got loaded with, like we did everything.

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I mean, we did a lot of stuff together, man.

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And there was something about that hug, man,

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when I walked into that,

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to that intake of this treatment facility

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and they asked me that question

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that so many times I just lied to.

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They said, "Man," they said, "If you want to stay,

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you can stay.

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If you want to go, you want to go,

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we'll give you 24 hours before you call your parole officer."

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Deep down inside of me,

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I made a decision to do something different, believe it or not.

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And I spent the next 16, 17 months

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inside of a treatment center,

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doing all your rules, doing all your work,

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doing everything that was named to me, I did it, man.

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And as long as I got a job,

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I had to work on all those traffic tickets.

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I started working on the relationships with my family.

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I started making amends.

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What happened is I went to a meeting of NA

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and I met this guy and he became my sponsor

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and he gave me an introduction into the program.

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And he didn't do it by telling me what to do.

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He did it by example of what to do.

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And he kept on, and he just kept on showing up

16:15

and being an example and showing up and he'd be an example.

16:18

And he'd show up, I'd get in his car

16:20

and I'd be like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

16:22

And he'd be like, "Yes, yep, yep, yep, yep."

16:24

And he'd take me to a meeting

16:25

and he'd plug me into a commitment

16:27

and he'd plug me into people.

16:28

These other people would pick me up

16:30

and they'd do the same thing.

16:31

They'd take me over to a panel

16:32

and then they'd take me back, they'd pick me up,

16:34

they'd take me to a convention, they'd take me over,

16:36

they'd take me to some dumb stuff, they'd take me to bingo,

16:39

they'd take me to karaoke,

16:41

they'd take me to all this stuff.

16:42

And I'd be like, "I don't, it's a whole lot better

16:44

"than sitting in treatment."

16:45

So I just went, you know, and I did all this stuff, man,

16:48

and I'm meeting people and meeting people and doing that.

16:51

And we had this big old group of guys

16:53

and we sat in the back and they always called on him

16:56

and every single meeting they call on him

16:57

and every time after he got done, he'd call me.

17:00

And you know, it'd be popcorn, he'd be like,

17:01

"All right, Garrett, go ahead."

17:03

And I'd be like, "All right."

17:03

And I'd start sharing and then I'd start sharing

17:06

and I'd be like, "Oh, and that guy."

17:07

I just fell in love, like I just kept on showing up.

17:10

I just kept on doing it, I did not complain.

17:12

I didn't, see, I didn't come in here

17:13

to the rooms of Alcoholics Anonymous

17:15

to tell you people how I'm gonna do my program.

17:17

I came in here so you guys can show me

17:19

or teach me a way to live life

17:21

'cause I don't know how to live life.

17:22

I still to this day, man, like I don't know how to live life.

17:25

I have to be taught, I still have to be sponsored

17:27

because the life that I live

17:29

is a life that I never lived before in my life.

17:31

Everything to this point in my life is new, man,

17:33

and I still gotta have a sponsor.

17:35

I still gotta run my ideas to somebody else.

17:37

I still gotta, I still gotta check the ego, the pride.

17:40

I gotta, I still gotta, like it's scary, man,

17:43

and I go through this program, man,

17:45

and I need all this stuff, and the big day comes,

17:47

and that big day comes when I have to leave that place.

17:49

And now I have to go out from underneath this umbrella, man,

17:51

and I've been watching, I've been sitting there

17:52

in this treatment center for so long.

17:54

I've been watching people go like in a,

17:55

utterly like a, just in a rotation,

17:57

in a rotation, in a rotation,

17:59

and I'm talking about one of those places

18:00

the cops be coming, they be raiding the treatment facility,

18:03

there's drugs inside, there's drugs outside,

18:05

it's just like, it's all this crazy stuff is happening, man,

18:08

and I was just one of those ones, man.

18:11

Like I just wanted to make it, man.

18:13

I just, I go to these groups,

18:15

and they talk about these percentages, man, man,

18:16

like nine out of 10 people, you know,

18:18

nine out of, like 1% of people in treatment make it, man,

18:21

and I just wanted to be that 1%.

18:23

They're talking about it's one out of five people making

18:26

when they get out of prison.

18:27

Like I just wanted to be that one.

18:28

I said, what can separate me from that?

18:30

How can I be that stuff one, man?

18:32

Like I went on this journey, man,

18:34

and I'm gonna tell you, man, like I envy Levi, man.

18:37

Levi had more time than me.

18:39

I met him in there.

18:40

I know him, and I'm watching his life just grow, man.

18:42

Like I'm watching him.

18:43

I'm watching him like his family's giving him visits,

18:45

and they're bringing gifts,

18:46

and like he has all the coolest clothes on,

18:49

and he smells the best.

18:50

He has like all this good stuff, man,

18:52

and like me and Levi, man,

18:54

like we did that buddy system around here.

18:55

Like we started getting up, man.

18:58

Like we started going to meetings together.

19:00

We started getting commitments together.

19:02

We started like tag teaming the program, man.

19:06

Like if I go on this panel, I want you to go with me,

19:09

and then he'd drive us to this panel,

19:11

and we'd do this panels,

19:12

and like on Wednesdays at Shepherd's at the Hill,

19:14

we had this commitment, man,

19:15

and like, you know, the next thing I know,

19:17

like Levi has a year,

19:18

and like he's graduating this program,

19:20

and like our first like steak and lobster dinner.

19:23

We're having it, man.

19:24

Like I never had a steak and lobster dinner.

19:26

First of all, because I can't eat steak,

19:28

'cause I got no teeth, you know what I'm saying?

19:29

So like I'm not eating steak and lobster.

19:31

I'm not eating stuff like that, you know?

19:33

I mean, mashed potatoes and macaroni and cheese,

19:35

and like top ramen soup,

19:37

and like, you know,

19:37

and we do this nice beautiful lobster steak dinner,

19:41

you know, I get my teeth fixed, you know?

19:43

All this stuff, man, and I'm watching as Levi,

19:45

man, I'm like living in his shadows.

19:48

He gets all these achievements here in the recovery, man,

19:50

and I envied him, and I envied him,

19:52

'cause you know what?

19:52

He gets his car, and he gets this nice job.

19:54

He gets this beautiful girl.

19:56

He gets, man, he moves out.

19:57

He gets a small little apartment, man,

19:58

and I'm on this V cruiser, at least like Deebo's bike,

20:03

and I'm riding with a backpack.

20:05

I'm riding with a backpack full of a coffee commitment, man,

20:09

and I'm riding like a three miles, you know?

20:11

It doesn't matter, rain, wind.

20:13

So I don't care the weather.

20:14

I'm riding to my commitment to get there early

20:17

to make this coffee,

20:18

and I want this coffee to be the best coffee,

20:20

so I make sure that I do my homework,

20:22

and I'm stewing up,

20:23

and I finally got my first cell phone,

20:26

and I'm calling Levi, and I'm like Levi, man.

20:28

It's Wednesday night.

20:30

Are you gonna be there tonight?

20:31

And he'd be like, Garret, man, he's like, I love,

20:33

he's like, you know, I love AA, and I love recovery,

20:37

but tonight, man, is, you know, like I worked a double.

20:39

I'd be like, damn, you worked a double, man.

20:41

How much money did you make?

20:42

He'd be like, oh, man, I got that double pay, you know,

20:45

and I'm a little tired of that, so I can't make it, man.

20:47

Yeah, you know, tell everybody how much I love him

20:49

and miss him, and I'd be like, all right, not a problem.

20:51

And I'd go in there, and I'd be like,

20:52

yeah, Levi's doing so good, man.

20:54

Got this job, he's making the big bust.

20:56

We got this truck, man, that's like, and it's so good.

20:59

I hope I got a truck like that.

21:01

I really hope I get a job like him, you know,

21:03

and I'd call him, you know, the next week,

21:04

and I'd be like, hey, Levi, you coming this week?

21:06

And he'd be like, man, you know, I told a lady, man,

21:09

that I'd take her out tonight, man,

21:10

'cause I've been working all these doubles, man,

21:12

and, you know, and so we're gonna go on a date.

21:15

I'd be like, man, Levi's girl's so gorgeous, man.

21:17

How'd he get this, you know?

21:19

Then I stopped calling Levi 'cause he never shows up,

21:21

and a couple guys asked me, and they're like,

21:22

man, whatever happened to that guy you used to hang out with?

21:24

And I was like, damn, man, it's like I'm so busy

21:26

in the program that I forget, 'cause I really don't

21:29

pay attention to the people who are not around here.

21:31

I pay attention to the people who are around here,

21:33

and I called Levi up, man, I get no answers,

21:36

and I'll get no answers, man, and he calls me up one day,

21:39

and he's like, man, it's like, Garrett, man,

21:40

I'm sorry I haven't got back to you, man,

21:42

but like I got a promotion at work,

21:44

and I, you know, I'm buying this house now, you know?

21:46

Got this truck, and I'm playing baseball on the weekends,

21:49

going to the gym, everything's fine, man.

21:51

Tell the guys I'll be at the meeting next week,

21:52

and I don't see 'em, you know?

21:54

And I'm doing my classes out there,

21:56

and I had four DWIs, and they thought

22:01

I was mentally retarded at DMV, so.

22:03

They said that, they said like, they said like,

22:07

how are you, why are you even here trying to get a license?

22:09

I said like, I really thought I could get my license.

22:12

It said that you, that you, there's not, you can't,

22:14

instead of red flags in the DMV, and I thought like,

22:18

what, that's weird, because how did that happen, you know?

22:21

And they said, well, first thing you have to do

22:23

is you have to go down and get a physical done,

22:25

and you have to do all this stuff

22:26

to get your driver's license, and by the time you do that,

22:29

you're gonna have to do all this community service,

22:31

and then you gotta do some Caltrans,

22:33

and then you gotta do these DWI classes.

22:35

I'm like, a DUI, how do I get that, you know?

22:37

Like, you know, and they're like, and then,

22:39

and then you have to, you know, go to this doctor,

22:41

and it was a list, man, it was a full plate of stuff,

22:43

and I thought for sure, I was like, you know what?

22:45

There is no way that I'm gonna be able to do all this stuff,

22:48

'cause for once, 'cause every time I look at something,

22:50

I look at everything, instead of looking at one thing,

22:53

and then I went through, man,

22:54

and I started doing all this stuff, man,

22:56

and I'm sitting there at the Starbucks

22:58

that I rode my bike to, and I was so embarrassed

23:00

and ashamed of how I was living my life

23:02

that I rode the bike a couple blocks up,

23:05

and I locked it up to this bike rack

23:07

and inside their building, and I go to Starbucks,

23:09

and I started trying to learn how to order coffee

23:12

like normal people, 'cause normal people go to Starbucks,

23:14

and I don't know nothing about that.

23:16

I go in there, and I'm like, uh, coffee, you know?

23:18

And the menu's overwhelming, you know?

23:21

They're like vanilla chocolate, I'm just like,

23:23

just, uh, they're like venti or grande?

23:25

I'm like, uh, the lard, which one's the lard?

23:28

You know, and I'm sitting out there on the Starbucks,

23:31

enjoying my night, going to my classes,

23:33

doing what I need to be doing,

23:34

'cause that's what I have to do,

23:35

and out of the air, man, what do I hear?

23:38

I hear Levi's voice, and he's like,

23:40

hey, Derek, big bro, so good to see you.

23:42

And I turn around to see my buddy, man,

23:44

and the guy I see is not the guy that I saw last.

23:46

What I do is I see Levi full fledged in his disease,

23:49

and he has these pants on,

23:49

just like he has for a while, and they just don't fit him.

23:52

He has a jacket that don't fit, shirt that doesn't fit.

23:55

He has some beat-up old shoes,

23:56

and he's out there on the streets, man.

23:58

He's like, man, these guys took my truck,

24:00

and this and that.

24:01

He starts telling me about all this stuff

24:03

that's happening out there, and I'm overwhelming,

24:05

and I want to stay and talk when I can.

24:07

The next question I have is mouth.

24:08

He says, Derek, man, can I get five bucks

24:10

so I can get me a drink right now?

24:11

And I give him five bucks so he can get a drink,

24:13

and I said, man, please, Levi,

24:14

meet me at the Wieners neutral, man.

24:15

I got a two-hour DUI class.

24:17

I'll be over there at nine o'clock, man,

24:18

just right after class, man, and I get out,

24:22

and I go over to that Wieners neutral,

24:23

and Levi's not there, man, and it was at that point

24:26

I never really envied Levi's life anymore.

24:28

It was that thing that they talk about here in recovery,

24:31

man, and talk about, I mean, I sat there in treatment.

24:34

I sat there in meetings with Levi,

24:36

and he would just, like, he'd be able to recite

24:39

this big book of Alcoholics Anonymous.

24:41

Like, he knew all the prayers, all the chapters,

24:43

all of our readings and stuff like that,

24:45

and I used to think I was dumb,

24:46

because I was like, I can't remember to say

24:49

what to say when the meeting closes,

24:51

and they call on me to say, what's the prayer,

24:53

and I stutter to this day, you know?

24:55

And Levi, man, he was one of those ones, man,

24:57

that just says, really, I haven't seen a person fail

25:00

who has thoroughly followed his path.

25:02

Levi left to get to recovery,

25:03

get in the way, gets to recovery,

25:05

and I say that no matter how big my life gets here

25:07

in the rooms of Alcoholics Anonymous

25:09

or outside Alcoholics Anonymous,

25:11

I remember my primary purpose is to be here,

25:14

to reach my hand out to newcomers,

25:16

to be of service the best way I can,

25:18

and I'll tell you what my life happened in my life,

25:20

is that everything that I thought

25:22

could not happen in my life has happened to me in my life,

25:25

because I stayed here just one more day,

25:27

because I decided to work this program before, you know,

25:30

and to put all this stuff forth, and what it talks about,

25:34

I just, I did it the way that it talks about here

25:36

in the first 164 pages of the big book

25:38

of Alcoholics Anonymous.

25:39

It's a spiritual program, you know,

25:41

and I found the God of my understanding,

25:44

and it talked about like, you know, do you want experience,

25:47

or, you know, do you want that experience,

25:50

or do you want self-knowledge, you know,

25:51

and I used to be like, man,

25:53

'cause Levi had all this self-knowledge, you know,

25:55

and but he didn't have that much experience,

25:57

and I said, well, what's the difference?

25:58

So I was like, imagine there's two guys,

26:01

and they're brothers, man, and they're talking about sex,

26:05

you know, we all like sex, you know,

26:07

and they're talking about like, you know,

26:09

they're both virgins, and they're young,

26:11

and they're like, you know, is it experience,

26:14

or is it practical knowledge?

26:16

And the one guy says, you know what, man,

26:18

I wanna know about orgasms,

26:20

and he's like, you know what, I'ma go,

26:22

and I'ma get self-knowledge.

26:23

I'ma go to the libraries, I'ma go ask everybody,

26:26

I'ma do all these surveys,

26:27

and I'ma get some self-knowledge about this.

26:29

You know, and the other brother, he's like,

26:30

you go and get the experience,

26:32

and we'll meet back here, and we'll tell you what happens.

26:34

You know, and they go back, and they meet, man,

26:36

and the guy with self-knowledge, man,

26:39

he goes into a whole physical theory

26:41

about all the stuff, about what he thinks,

26:43

and what he knows, and what should happen

26:46

if you do it like this,

26:47

and then his brother talks about the experience

26:49

of what you just went through,

26:51

and I sure do like the people

26:54

that do have the experience around here

26:56

in the rooms of Alcoholics Anonymous,

26:57

and not the self-knowledge.

26:58

Like they say that the people who are left here

27:01

are the people who are, like my friends

27:03

in the rooms of Alcoholics Anonymous

27:04

are the people who just stay,

27:05

'cause a lot of us come in here,

27:06

being our desperate need, but not too many of us stay.

27:09

And I'll tell you what my life today

27:10

is beyond my wildest dreams.

27:11

I've walked through the biggest,

27:12

I've walked through some of the biggest things

27:14

that I've ever walked through in my life

27:15

in the rooms of Alcoholics Anonymous,

27:17

and I did not walk through, and I did not walk alone.

27:19

I did not walk scared.

27:21

I mean, whether I was scared, afraid, alone, hired,

27:24

or didn't think I can get through,

27:26

I'm gonna let you guys know now that I 100%, man,

27:28

walked here openly and freely,

27:31

and just opened with the rooms of Alcoholics Anonymous.

27:33

Like I came in here, and I was just like,

27:35

I didn't matter if I was, it talks about it in her book,

27:38

on page 450 and 451, it says,

27:40

"The tides of life flow instantly up and down.

27:42

"Life is life, but my recovery must stay the same."

27:45

What I got here is the same thing I learned in treatment

27:47

is I got me a program of recovery

27:49

that works for the ups and downs of life.

27:51

It does not matter how good my life is

27:53

or how bad my life is, this program 100%,

27:55

every single time, works for me,

27:57

as long as I allow it to work.

27:59

And I come in here, and I'll tell you

28:00

a quick little story, man, and that relationship

28:03

with my daughter is 100%, everything with my family,

28:06

I have amended all those relationships with my dad,

28:09

I've walked through my dad's death,

28:11

the relationships with my mom, and everything,

28:13

I've amended all that stuff,

28:15

and I've walked through that death,

28:16

and I had a couple of the children,

28:19

and they never have seen me drink or use anything like that,

28:23

and that little girl is one of my best friends, man,

28:25

she is just like, she is 21 years old to this day,

28:28

and she loves her dad, she calls me on a regular basis,

28:31

and I'm gonna tell you this, man,

28:32

is like I, this is, and this I'm gonna sum up

28:34

the program of Alcoholics Anonymous Cheat, man, right now,

28:37

is that I, to this day, am involved in this way of life,

28:41

and I was at this retreat with my sponsor,

28:43

and my sponsor was, you know, watching me shave my head,

28:46

and he was like, he was like, what are you doing, you know,

28:49

'cause I learned how to shave my head inside a jail

28:52

with orange grenade razor blades, man,

28:54

and PIA soap, you know, and I'd lather it all up,

28:58

and I'd shave it, and shave it, and cut it,

28:59

and bleed everywhere, I'd just start bleeding out everywhere,

29:02

and I used to think it was funny,

29:03

I'd go up to the window and scare the guards, you know,

29:05

and be like, oh, maybe, you know, and I'm just kidding, man,

29:08

I just need to tell him, you know, and I was sitting there,

29:12

I'm in this bathroom at this retreat with my sponsor,

29:15

and a whole bunch of those guys are in this house,

29:17

and I was shaving, and blood's running down my face,

29:20

and he sees me, and he's like, man, what are you doing,

29:23

and I was like, I'm shaving, and it doesn't look

29:26

like you're shaving, you know, and what he did

29:28

is this man showed me a new way to do something

29:31

that I already knew, and the main thing is

29:34

that I was willing to learn something that I already knew,

29:37

and here in the rooms of Alcoholics Anonymous,

29:39

what it is is a constant reminder of I have

29:41

to keep on learning stuff that I already have,

29:43

that I already think I know, and that's when it talks

29:45

about the ego, and the pride, and stepping to the side,

29:48

and letting it be, to where like, man, I come here

29:51

to the rooms of Alcoholics Anonymous, and like,

29:54

and you know, and I get a little bit of time,

29:56

and I work with lots of guys, and I do all these commitments,

30:00

and I start living this AA way of life,

30:03

like my number one primary purpose is Alcoholics Anonymous,

30:06

because without it, I wouldn't have nothing else below it,

30:09

man, and that's 'cause my family, my relationships,

30:11

like the kids that, my whole life is because of,

30:16

I just started putting this way of life

30:19

into a way of living, man, and like my,

30:22

this way of life is sometimes the hardest thing to do

30:25

because I fight it, and I go from step three, man,

30:28

and I, like, people always ask me, like,

30:30

how can you always be having the guy?

30:32

I'm just so grateful today, man,

30:34

that my head is where my feet are at.

30:36

When people ask me, like, why you always have a good day?

30:38

Why are you always smiling?

30:40

Why are you always so happy?

30:41

And I'm like, man, 'cause in the 12 steps,

30:43

there's this chapter, and it's chapter three,

30:45

and it says I turn my will and my life over

30:47

to the care of God on a daily basis,

30:50

and I find that if I, on a daily basis, or at a moment,

30:54

turn my will and my life over to the care of God,

30:57

and then, well, what is the problem?

30:58

The only problem is that me, I keep on going back in there,

31:01

and I keep on taking my will back,

31:03

and I keep on grabbing hold of stuff

31:05

that I shouldn't be holding on in the first place,

31:07

and once I try to get my control back,

31:09

instead of flowing with the ebb and flow of life, man,

31:11

like, it's just the ebb and flow.

31:13

Like, I gotta go and do this flow of life, man,

31:16

and I just gotta let what's gonna happen,

31:17

what's gonna happen, and I gotta say that, man,

31:20

today, I'm just so grateful to be able to be

31:23

just a member of Alcoholics Anonymous today

31:25

for the image here.