Sean's Journey: Sponsorship, Service, and Spiritual Awakening
S25:E18

Sean's Journey: Sponsorship, Service, and Spiritual Awakening

Episode description

Sean, sober since 2015, shares how sponsoring others and staying committed to AA have deepened his spiritual awakening. He reflects on the impact of old‑timers, the power of step work, and the gratitude that fuels his service inside and outside the room.

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I'm kind of slow cuz I overdid it at the gym. So thinking I'm 20 years old, okay

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My name is Sean and I am an alcoholic definitely and my sobriety dates April 9th 2015. Hey Monty, what's up? Um, first I want to

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I want to share about

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First I'm going to tell you what I do today

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To stay here and what I do today and how bad it got what I have to do today

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So I don't have to go back to what got me here. You know what I mean? Um, I sponsor guys

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I have a sponsor who has a sponsor

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I've

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Did I say my sobriety date? Yeah, I've been through the steps quite a few times and

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I'm kind of sensing I go to another program too. So I'll probably going through that program

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I've done the angles and all the all the

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Different points of view with AA steps. I'm like, well, maybe it's time for me to do those steps over there

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But that's that that's that that program. I sponsor guys Thursday

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I just took took a gentleman through the fifth step and it was amazing to see to see people when they come in and then

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You see what they evolve into you just and you're just watching it from up just from here

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You're just like wow. Wow, and the feeling you get

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like when he finished his

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His fifth step and I told about the part of the big book where you when you go home

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Just you have to spend the rest of the night with with your higher power with your God

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I believe that's page 74 talks about you know, knowing what you just did go home and be with yourself for Eagles

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all right, so it's beautiful and that feeling that you get to know that

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You were instrumental in this no money could buy that feeling. Um, I sponsor guys, you know

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I have I have seven sponsors three are in the work for I hear crickets. So the percentages are about right, right?

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They say I'm their sponsor, but that's about it. Um, I'm third generation a a my grandpa my dad and now me and I

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I'm a service as much as I possibly can be

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Service could be many things

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Service can be for me not only in the rooms, but out there in the world

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Step 12 having had past tense a spiritual awakening as a result of these steps. We try to carry this message

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Alcoholics and practices principles all our affairs all our affairs to me means out there to not just writing them on the steps on paper

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but you learn to live them and when your feet meet the street, that's

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You I can work the steps in the room and still be the biggest a-hole out there cussing people out and stuff

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But when you stay when I've stayed I've learned staying around

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And having ten years and then my first meeting was in 1992. Ah, I identified that I had a problem

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But I didn't stay but I have a joke and this place has jokes

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My first meeting in 1992 was at the improv and the joke was on me

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for years until 2015 took that long I

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Don't have any commitments right now

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I need to get busy and get some because I've heard a couple meetings where you don't it's like wow

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But we're working work will work get in the way and this like Sean you wouldn't have a job if you weren't sober

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So, um about my sponsor says Sean you've been around a long enough. You'll get a commitment

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You know what to do and he goes, how about this stay committed to your commitment to be committed to alcoholics anonymous?

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He says that's a commitment in itself. He was overthinking things. I'm like, he says you'll get one. I'm like, oh

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Just stay committed to this program that saved your life. Oh, you know what? It's the old-timers. I love it

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I'm standing here because old-timers prayed like hell for me

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My dad my grandpa and and even even in the meetings the old-timers when when they share, um, I'm a sponge

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I soak it up and in the beginning they

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Were tell me what I needed to hear when I didn't want to hear it

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My first go-to used to be custom out half Spanish half

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Half in English, but my mom left. Oh, yeah and all that and stuff, but I I can't today

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I I just keep my fingers in my pockets. In fact, I don't even have my fingers out anymore. I've learned Sean

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They're telling you because they love you and they're showing you some tough love you baby. Um, you bury them

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I learned that from that come from them. I'm like, oh that hit deep when I first heard that

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I'm not here to coddle you this thing is saves our lives and we can't baby people here because they end up in a casket

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Um, oh, um, so that's what I do and then you know

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especially especially being out there and I've learned from old-timers and stuff and and being of service out there in the world and

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It gets me emotional sometimes where you I call it. Sometimes I'm like pinch me like pinch me moments to

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To be standing here and then I often say, you know, I am today. I am proof

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I am the proof and evidence that

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Actually, no, I am the proof and evidence of the grace of God that saved me and I'm also living breathing proof that people can

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Change a person can change people can change as a whole in these rooms and individually and we see it every day

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That's in this room and it's it's on here we change and then I know we all have those moments where and I I get tears

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They're tears of gratitude

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I've just think of where I once was where I was there then and to see where I am here now

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And I'm not really worried about over here cuz I know God's gonna be there with me

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Anyway, he was there then my higher powers here now

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It's gonna be there with me tomorrow because me and my higher power we have and I'll get into my story

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But when I first got in here, I came in here with a lot of

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Religion for God. Yeah, I know God. Yeah, Sean. I found out through these steps. Yeah, you knew God you knew of him

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You didn't know him intimately and personally I had a relationship with him

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I came in here with a lot of religion for God you introduced me

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You can't you basically said come on inside do what we do do what you're told and taught and we're gonna introduce you to someone

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And that someone's gonna introduce you to someone else you introduced me to my god and my own personal relationship

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I found through the through the steps through the steps and God introduced me to me

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I never knew the me that I was always meant to be but I I'm the one that that

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Accumulated garbage clutter and debris set there by me using my my seven-step prayer

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My sponsor have the third step right it to where it caters to you my seven-step prayer write it to where it caters to you

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individually between you and your God because it's between you and I tell my sponsors - it's between between you and your God and

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As unique as you are as a person from me, that's the same unique relationship

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You're gonna have your higher power and no one can touch it and I can say that about my unique person that I am

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Has a unique personal relationship with my higher power that no one can touch no one in my family my sponsor

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But my best friend no one it's between me and God and it's like this and it's tight

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I didn't have that coming in here and I learned that in these rooms and and things that had to happen. So let me backtrack

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My name is Sean Connell O'Neill about as Irish as you can get right Sean Connell O'Neill. My dad was the big

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xboxer

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He was used to fight at the Olympic Auditorium in downtown. He was the big ruler a brought bruiser heavyweight boxer

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I used to I talked about my dad because that's why I believe that's one of the reasons I'm standing here because it pops

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Um and in the end before he passed away in 2015, I had four months

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We were going to meetings together and it was beautiful

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But my dad was a big surfer from he's like a big biker big old beard long hair tattoos surfer from Santa Monica

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He moved to Anaheim and made a chola Chicana my mom and then had a bunch of crazy kids

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I'm one of them there was eight of us and check this out

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There was eight of us two alcoholics addicts my sister Michelle and me and I say the the Irish and my mom's at Chicano

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So that makes me a leprechaun Oh, okay

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So, um, but what happened with me personally was is my dad was in his disease

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He had 35 years sober and he was clean as well when he passed away and especially in 2015. I had four months and

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and

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When he was in his disease, he almost he almost killed my mom

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um, and this is what what affected me into my using and stuff and drinking and stuff was is

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and he went to he went to jail for it and she left basically to save her life and

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Basically took four kids one was adopted out and three kids went with her and then for me my twin brother

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Who's who's a normie and my my two sisters were put in foster homes

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but before that when my dad went to jail my mom left to basically to save her life because she had a metal plate in her

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head from him beating her in his drunken rages and

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We were given the impression that she abandoned us and wanted nothing to do with us

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I found out later on from my mom's side of the family because they both were like my dad's side and my mom's side they

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Talked she's made what crap on each other, but we found out I found out later

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It was the opposite

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My mom was the most loving caring kind beautiful woman that you could ever meet and and when she used to call me Miho

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I would like this before she passed away two years ago

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She'd say I love you Miho and I'm like that little kid again

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Just that word just melts me and I'm getting goosebumps now

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That's basically her probably telling me I can hear you Miho. I can hear you talking

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Um, and so she left to save her life and my dad went to jail

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We were put in first and this was in the city of Orange. It's called Albert sitting home

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It was kind of like a little little orphanage for kids and it was like I felt like a like dog

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Like I later on I felt that we felt like dogs dogs in a kennel in a dog pound here

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We are in these little cubicles playing toys and these adults are going by. Oh, look at that one

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Oh, what about that little kid over there? Oh, he's so cute. He's adorable and you're just that little kid

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just looking at who's who are these people staring at us and pointing us feeling like a little dog in a pound because

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That's when I started to have no trust in adults my dad

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I thought my mom abandoned us and here we are these weird adults staring at us. So we go to foster homes

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I was in my own. My brother was down the street. My two sisters were in Fountain Valley in the same home

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I don't know what happened in there is all I know is what happened in mine and it was from age five to seven

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I have a mark on my my

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Eyebrow and I'll fast forward over here, but I have a mark on my eyebrow

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I got need to share on this part mark on my eyebrow where one of the foster fathers

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I was it we were in the foster homes from age five. I was age five to seven

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My foster father would say hey Sean go to go peepee before you go to bed and then call me in here so I can see

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You went cuz I don't want you going in the bed

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Okay

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One time I flushed it and he had been drinking and he comes in and he goes did you go peepee?

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I said yes

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he goes don't lie to me you and he cussed me out picked me up by my ankles and slammed my head into the toilet bowl and

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There was just bloody and I passed out they take me out of that home

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but me in another home where an older male but trapped me in a tool shed and

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Sexually molest me and not let me leave until he finished and I kept that for years and years later

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When I was in a rehab, I told my dad and he didn't know and he got really quiet

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In fact, I kind of know what he was probably thinking had I not put those kids through that Sean never would have went

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I don't know why other brothers and sisters went through it could be good

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I know my two sisters had a good home and I don't know about my brothers

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But I know what mine were I was bounced from home to home in those two years. It was for two years and and

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I do believe this was hindsight. I do believe later on because my dad was old-school

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Xboxer he believed in violence

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He believed in effing people up he would come and hunt you down and he was gonna destroy you

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Physically with his hands or with a bat or whatever. That's how he rolled and I believe later on I believe

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God saved my dad cuz had my dad found out that his because he would do anything for his kids

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He was very protective had my dad found out that those two guys did that to his son

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He probably would have been serving two life terms for killing killing someone that did something to his kid because that's how he rolled

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You don't come near my kids. I'm gonna hunt you down. That's how he was. He changed when he came into a

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He a told my dad to man up handle your business and take care of what what you did

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You did this and a him showed him get yourself together

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So my dad got himself together was in the rooms

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And this was in that this was in the 70s that he got he got custody of four of us and raised us

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It was a crazy house because we would it was this big buffed out white dude with four little

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Little Latino kids following him around all the time in the store and always driving him crazy

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You guys are driving me crazy. We're running around causing trouble, but he was a good dad

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He was a good Danny and he did what he knew because his house was was a mess up was a mess, too

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And he did the best he could um, he was always working. So granted we grew up in the barrio

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So down by Santana and orange and and and you you we learned to do what people do in the barrio

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Survival his dad's not there

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We ever cook for ourselves. We had to do all that stuff and and my grandma helped a little but

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It was survival. So and and so my older brother, I mean my twin brother

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He was gang banging he became that he was a cholo and my two sisters were cholas

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They were out on the street doing all the crazy stuff and I was a timid little kid that just stayed home and I was scared

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Scared of everybody and just stayed home and and but I knew something was different about me

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So my brother went to prison for years. He was a normie, but he his addiction was stealing

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Violence like my dad. Um, mine was violence like we don't get into that, too

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And my sister got married and the other one she took off and went to the state of Washington

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And I was the last kid in the house. Um, then I started, you know, I played sports

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I also box I still do that's probably why I'm all rickety cuz I I go and hit the boxing gym and started

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The equipment and stuff and I think I'm I can still I'm gonna be 60 years old in September

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No, Sean, my head says go but my body says heck no. I mean right now. I'm like, oh my gosh

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but anyway

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they all left and my dad was

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Was at home and I played sports and stuff and I remember backtrack real quick and I'll fast forward real fast

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I remember I was about 13 and the kids were all still in the house

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my dad was taking us to alatine and he was taking us to alatine and one time after a meeting he went to a

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His meeting and he came and picked us up and he said Sean Sean. Come here young man

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I thought I was in trouble because when he talked like that, I'm like, he was serious. He goes I've been watching you Sean

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I watch how you roll. I saw I watch what you do your mannerisms your demeanor and stuff

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He goes this is what he said. You're gonna end up in a a one day and I wasn't even drinking or none of that stuff

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I'm getting goosebumps again

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That's part of my dad and he's in the big meeting in the sky and here I am pops was right

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I was 13 years old out of all the kids

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One he said you're gonna end up in the rooms and here I am and so they all left and then

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You know, I started partying on doing everything. I mean drinking everything

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I mean I was oh it was I just wanted to numb out because I didn't want to feel um

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I didn't want to feel how I was feeling different. I didn't want to feel

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What is a therapist is subconsciously in me all that trauma that my dad put my mom through that I still don't remember

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But a therapist said she's gonna work on getting that out for the childhood trauma because I blocked it out

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I don't remember it but Sean it's there with my brothers and sisters

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They remember and they refused to tell me because they know they know my my alcoholism and addiction. They're protecting me

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They said if Sean found out he may go off beeping at home. We're not gonna tell them but little glimpses of it

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They would grab my older brother would grab us and put us under the bed those old-fashioned beds in the room when my dad's

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F'ing up my mom in the kitchen just beating her senselessly and they would hear that I said I said I don't remember any of that

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But my twin brother my sister they go we remember my therapist says Sean you do but it's in there you blocked it

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You blocked it. So, um, so I was drinking a lot of just everything and then hey, I was hanging out with

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You know the stoner kids long hair just going through the phase and just just trying to numb out cuz I just didn't want to

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Feel cuz I didn't like me. I hated me

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I just it's and I would I was an introvert and it was very quiet and

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Then I then I started hanging out with and I'll get into it

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This was what probably my teens early 20s. I played sports and I hung out with a lot of my straight friends

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Then I started cruising Garden Grove. There used to be a strip where it was all gay bars gay bookstores gay clubs

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It was just and one time I walked by it was called the frat house

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I was walked by it like four or five times and like let me just go in there. So I went in there and

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in a way, I

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Felt comfortable with the people that were in there, but I started drinking. No, I can't no. No, this is faggot

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This is faggot stuff. No, I'm not going in there

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but then I went in anyway and I started drinking more and then the drinking and then all the other substances came in even more and

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More and more till one time my dad I was after work

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My dad says what's with all those Mickey's big mouth 40s empty 40 bottles you got under your bed and there was tons of them

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I would I would drink them before work. I'm home for lunch and drink them and at night come home and drink them

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Um, cuz I was dealing with me and then do you guys remember? Does anybody remember the party lights?

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We said the party lines

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I was on those with guys and my dad worked long hours and I'm gonna fast forward real quick

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And the reason why I share this is because the love that my dad showed me that he learned and Alcoholics Anonymous

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It's the same love that he gave me and it's the same love

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I've learned to extend to other people and I never thought it would be

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but I bet all that was going on and I was on the party lines one night and I came down to our town how

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they came I was in a good mood on a Saturday my dad jumps off jumps off the couch and he cussed me out and he

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Goes who the F in hell is these faggoty little friends? You got dudes you got calling in the middle and I hey Sean

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What's up, girl? Hey, I'm like, oh, oh my gosh

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So my dad used to tell me boy when you're man enough who can go in the front yard

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We're gonna have rounds. Let's see how tough you are

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Thought this was today cuz when he said that who are these faggoty little guys you have calling in the middle of night waking me

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Up, he's cussing me out and I just lost it

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I pick a flower vase off the coffee table and he was in this dining room and I threw it at him

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I said don't call my friends faggots, by the way

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I'm a faggot and he stopped and he looked at me and he had these blue eyes that would pierce you and he said what?

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Did you just say I'm like my head I was going I'm going to the front yard right now. Today's the day

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I'm gonna die. He's gonna go beat me silly in the front yard. He says what did you just say?

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I said dad, I think I'm gay and this is the love he learned enough. He he had good

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What was it?

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10 or 15 years. He became a softy. I'm a hardcore a softy

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he says commercial and I was crying and I was

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Weeping and I could still remember and he gets me emotional today to think what my dad he looked at me

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He says come here and he held me and I was weeping in his arms and he says Sean and looked at me the face

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He was Sean. I don't care that you're gay says you're my boy. I just want to know you're gonna be okay

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He says you're good in my book and till the day he died. My dad was my number one

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Support of who I am what I am and how I am in my corner

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He's supported but he used to talk to my ex-boyfriends and he used to tell hey keep Sean in line because you know

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He parties a lot and all my relationships. I was and I destroyed him because of my addiction

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I was able with the nine steps to mend some of them some want nothing to do with me

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I have a there's some of them that are 100% in my corner and they're and they're just fully

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Supportive of me cuz I too would like she shared or he shared I to him do a diagnosed

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So for years, I also self-medicated and when my ex-boyfriends found out like there's the puzzle piece to the puzzle my god Sean

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We didn't know you were dealing with that. Oh my gosh, and they had some compassion and a love for that

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like a wow and but I love my dad showed me that day is the love that I saw man of them all violence show the

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Love that I never felt before never knew and he gave it to me and for years

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I didn't accept me for who I was how I was and what because I left the house and moved out after that and then I

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Moved to Hollywood and I used to fast. I wasn't all big but I was a lot thinner

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I used to fashion model in late 80s early 90s and I was really good at it and was making really good money. Um

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and

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Then I had this well-known gay porn producer come up to me. Hey, you want to make some money you had this look

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They're gonna love you. That's what I wanted to hear. They're gonna love you. Everyone's gonna like you everyone's gonna

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I'm like, oh this false sense of attention all this and how was I gonna have them?

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Love me when I didn't love me. Oh, I hated me but anything would would anything would would work for me

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So I got into that industry and it blasted off

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but so did the alcohol use and the other stuff and then I started to

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Go to levels where ice I settled for a gutter standard of living. I wasn't raised that way true

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We grew up in the body when we did what we had to do

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But my dad was ex-military came from an Irish home where they're disciplinarians and we knew and we were polite little kids

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In fact, they used to compliment my dad your kids are so polite. Yes, sir. No, man. May I leave the table?

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Can I leave the table to go to the restroom close everything? Um, but I sunk so low

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I thought so low of myself to a gutter standard of living and I was okay with it

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But the fact that I was okay with it when I knew the morals my dad gave us

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Depleted me even more to the point where I was on Santa Monica Boulevard hustling to get a bottle of booze and other things, too

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and I was let you do anything to me and I'll do anything to you as long as you can

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support my habit and I would woo you and screw you in more ways than one and I'd let you do the same thing as

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Long as you would support my habit and I would do it with a smile

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You know that saying betrayal with a kiss that was me. I was gonna I was gonna demoralize you I was gonna deplete you

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I was gonna rob you of your dignity or self-respect. I was gonna steal from you

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I was gonna lie to you demoralize you and smile about it. It's your fault cuz I hated me. I hated me

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So then I'm gonna fast forward then I then I'm like, well, I can make more money. I started there's a label escorting

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Oh, that's a fancy name making three to four to five hundred an hour

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And the guys will travel you to where they're at and still letting them do anything to me and I'll do anything to them

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As long as they supported me and kept me numb from me. Um, so the guy then

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Skye's says okay. I'm paying for your apartment in Hollywood. You're coming to live with me in Malibu an old Malibu Road

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He bought me a Jeep

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Mercedes all this stuff and he was an alcoholic too and and he gave me everything the world says

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Makes you happy all the trinkets and toys all this just dying inside

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I was worse and worse and worse and then I remember twice he laid hands on me and

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It's I may have been flashbacks from what my dad did to my mom or I don't know

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But he went flying through the bedrooms of the house in Malibu and he went flying through the wall and his head stuck in the dry

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Wall, um, I thought I said I custom out don't ever put your hands on me

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The last person who hit me was my dad. So then we move up to San Francisco

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We were living Pacific Heights really nice area

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And I was managing somebody had these contractor schools up that I was managing those

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He trained me in this management course and then he proceeds to

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Hit me again, so I threw him down the stairs on top of the grand piano

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His face was all cut up. And then the reason why I say that

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about him putting his hands on me backtrack a little is growing up in the body with my brothers cholo friends because when I was

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Younger, I kind of had like a little girl's voice

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It took a while for my voice to get deep and they used to say I need a shot

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Then a little little hoto little you know

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The little faggot in Spanish and they would make fun of me and stuff and they bullied me and tell one time

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My dad was all about handling a business

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So I stood up and I started fighting and I'm not a tough guy, but I've learned it's still to this day

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I don't take crap from people. No, I'm not gonna take that and and

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And I'm still that way today because the bullying when I see people are bullied it hits me here because it's still cuz I believe

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We have soul sores that haven't been healed

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We have soul scabs that are healing and then we have we have soul scars that are healed

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But they're still they still show right the bullying is still a scab and when the bullying happens to me

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They rip it off and I just go from from white to red

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It's happened in the rooms

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People talking about me being gay at the Valley Club one time and I was gonna go full flight on a guy and old timers

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Knew me. That's why I love our unity. They heard it

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They knew it and they said go get Sean if I was headed to the door and I was gonna beat this dude and sky said

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No, no, no come over here. We're going in the clubhouse. He talked me through it and another old timer

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So I'm like, okay, I went through it. That's why I love why I'm sharing this

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That's why I love what we do for each other in these rooms is there was an old timer named Scotty along by old biker

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Vietnam vet so I went home and I'm like playing him

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He had I'm a punk ass, you know what I mean for letting him say that I said no

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No, no, I know what meetings it goes to I'm gonna find him

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No, I'm an endless and all of a sudden something's told me Scotty's little Vietnam vet and he's

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Operated in violence too. So we've had long talks and he's an old-timer. I come feel Scotty used to be a parole officer

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so he likes me to call him that and I said Scotty I left a long message on his voice about what happened and I

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Love the old timers. He calls me up. He's laughing at me. Okay, Sean. What the hell he starts cracking it up at me

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So I I told him what happened and he goes, okay, let me explain something to you

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Okay, five minutes and then I'll wind it down. He says let me this was a couple few months ago

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He says let me explain this to you

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He says I know who the guy is Scotty was in that meeting

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He says that he goes and I was there and it was very important of inappropriate

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That's what he does to demean people and he gets a thrill out of it. And I said, well, he needs his ass beat

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Excuse my language, but he's he was yeah, he does someone needs to pop on them and then light him up and Scotty goes

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Okay, Sean. All right, you can do that

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you'll get some some some righteous anger taking care of it and you you will and

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You'll get some joy out of it is some temporary relief because he he hit a wound that hasn't been healed and Scotty

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He didn't even know that I was bullied when I was younger

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But he knew he says he he tore scab off a wound that you haven't healed from yet

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He knew he goes and and and he ripped it off and it got you and he says and you want to beat him silly

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He goes, you know what?

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Maybe he does need that because he shouldn't be doing that to people because he goes you could do that. You'll get a little a little

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Relief out of that but let me give you another list

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First of all, you'll lose respect and the love and and and how people like you at the Valley Club because they love you there

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You'll be you'll be 86 from here. He won't be able to go there anymore

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You will be arrested because I know this guy

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He's the type of guy that won't say what he said and he'll just press charges. You'll go to jail

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You'll lose your job court costs legal costs all that stuff and he goes now what list do you want to choose?

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He gave me enough enough room to hang myself on like I'm getting goosebumps about him like oh I said Scotty and he goes

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Okay

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Why because someone did the same thing for him because he went to because I still have I have a lot of the rage and anger

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And stuff like my dad had cuz remember that old song my boy was just like me cats in the cradle

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That was me me and my dad, but that's what we do in these rooms. And I love it is is is is

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we talk people through things and stuff and I have one sponsors call up and and

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what this program their their pinch me moments and and the pinch me moments are

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Like when I was in my disease the things I prayed for once you get him in

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Sobriety not not even knowing and then you realize why I want to trade for this and then a lot of things once I get

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It I'm complaining about it. God's like Sean. Where's your gratitude?

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I'm like, so I do a gratitude list every morning and sometimes I keep it so simple

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Your your lungs are breathing your heart is beating your blood's flowing. Your mind is thinking it may be crazy

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But it's still thinking you didn't blow your brains out because I almost went that that way too

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I ended up in all of you sober

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I was losing it and and it was it was the program that took me up there and made me a guy in the sober

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Guys in the program and and the blessings that this program has given me is is and what you guys have told and taught me

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I told you about my dad after his funeral. Where did I go?

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I went to a meeting and shared about it because you told me to two years ago when my mom died up in Aberdeen

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Washington because she was up there. Um, I was able to do her eulogy my brothers and sisters

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They didn't want used to want me. I was the crazy black sheep. I say black sheep with pink stripes

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I'm gay. I used to tell them next time you're crazy. I'm the one they didn't want around

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he's the crazy cycle running around the country doing crazy cuz I went from Orange County to Hollywood to

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San Francisco to New York to South Florida to Atlanta and then in Montgomery, Alabama on a nine-month blackout

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So and here I'm back home

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but my brothers and sisters and my mom's funeral got together and said we want Sean to do the eulogy that's the program and and

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We're gonna go after her funeral

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I went to an AA meeting at the Aberdeen Alana Club and shared about it

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Why because you told me to what we've been told and taught in here a little bit a little bit after

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COVID

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It still pinches me. I have a little ministry on social media

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I got ordained as it as a as a minister and pastor a gay ministry pastor. I tell people yes

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There are gay pastors. Okay, I tell people and they're like, wow a shine and people come up to me. Sometimes that means hey reverend

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They call me reverend. I'm like, I'm uncomfortable with it. I said, no. No, this is none of my doing

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That's who did it all and that's why I'm standing here is is my god hundred percent gets the credit and that's it

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My name is Sean. Thanks