Theresa's Journey: From Early Alcohol Use to Lasting Sobriety
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Theresa's Journey: From Early Alcohol Use to Lasting Sobriety

Episode description

Theresa shares her path from a teenage binge drinker and chronic relapser to a sober adult with a 2002 sobriety date. She reflects on family pressures, early drug use, the relief alcohol offered, and how the AA steps and a supportive sponsor helped her build a lasting recovery.

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Like I like my age, so.

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(laughing)

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(speaking in foreign language)

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- Hi, my name is Theresa and I am an alcoholic.

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(speaking in foreign language)

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Hi, Abraham, thank you for inviting me to come and speak

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and I am definitely grateful to be able to be sober

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and speaking in front of a group of alcoholics.

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Maria, thank you so much for your share.

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Our stories are pretty similar.

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First of all, let me, I'm gonna apologize in advance

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if my cat gets in the way and distracts.

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Hopefully she'll stay asleep.

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I can't lock her in another room

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because there is no other room, this is it.

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So I apologize for that in advance

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and welcome to anybody who's new or coming back to AA.

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You know, I too was a chronic relapser

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and each time when I would come back to AA,

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I can't even really say I was a chronic relapse

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because I never acquired too much time sober,

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but when I would come back,

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I always felt so much guilt and shame

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and I came in with those feelings,

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but through working the steps,

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much of that has gotten better.

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So my sobriety date is September 11th, 2002.

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My home group is the Rose City Speakers Meeting

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on Thursday night in Pasadena at eight o'clock.

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I invite you guys to attend.

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It is an in-person meeting, but it is a really good meeting.

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My sober sister is here tonight.

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I saw her earlier, my sponsor joined.

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So I'm always good to have people that I know

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in, you know, where I can see them as well.

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So I have a home group, a sponsor, and a sobriety date,

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and I was told to have those things

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and keep them when I got sober

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and to stay in the middle of Alcoholics Anonymous.

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And I have tried to do that to the best of my ability.

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So let's see, I'll start with my family growing up.

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I am the youngest of eight kids.

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I grew up with feelings like a lot of us do,

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you know, those feelings that not feeling good enough

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or smart enough, pretty enough.

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And I often felt that I was in the way

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and because I'm the youngest of eight kids,

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I probably was in the way, you know,

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I was often told, you know, Teresa, get out of the way,

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Teresa, you're in the way.

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I mean, I'm the youngest of eight.

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I grew up with a good set of moral values.

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My parents were hard workers.

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There is a lot of alcoholism and drug addiction

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in my family.

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I am the only sober person in my family,

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but I want to tell you that my brothers and sisters

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are so happy that I am sober today.

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So what happened was like when I was about 15,

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and I want to tell you, I grew up with God in my life.

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I was raised Catholic.

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I'm not a recovering Catholic.

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So the God idea wasn't a big surprise

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or something to overcome growing, you know,

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when I came into AA.

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What happened with this is when I was about 15,

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I was hanging out with some friends.

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Some of them were my age,

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but some were like 10 to 15 years older.

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And somebody handed me a paper cup full of something red,

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and I knew it was alcohol, but I drank it anyways.

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It was probably like Boons Hill or Mad Dog 2020.

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It was something real classy.

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And I drank that one down,

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and I kept folding my cup out for more.

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And nobody said, you know, Teresa just had one or two.

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And I don't think I've ever had just one drink ever.

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So with that, you know, I didn't.

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And that's kind of how I have drank since that time.

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And, you know, I didn't have like,

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I didn't like pass out or throw up

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or make a spectacle of myself that day.

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But what did happen for me that day was my feelings.

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You know, for the first time that I can remember,

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I just, I was okay.

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Those feelings of feeling shy and insecure

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and not part of just weren't there.

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I didn't feel smarter, prettier or any of that,

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but those feelings of being self-conscious

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just weren't there.

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And that's what alcohol and drugs always did for me.

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They changed the way I felt.

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So I can say that the steps do the same thing.

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They just take a lot longer,

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but the result is more permanent as well.

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So I didn't set out to go out and drink like the next week

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or the next weekend.

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My thoughts were not like, I can't wait to do this again.

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But when I did drink throughout my teens

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and it wasn't real often, you know, for me, I say that,

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and it might be like once a month we did that.

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And for somebody who's 15, I think that's a lot,

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but that's how I drank.

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And I had no knowledge of alcoholism at the time.

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And anytime I drank, I drank to excess.

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And I began to suffer consequences

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and I began to do those things,

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some things that a 15-year-old girl shouldn't be doing.

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And I compromised my moral values.

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And I had a lot of guilt and shame about that.

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And I felt really bad as a person for doing those things.

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And the big book talks about how alcoholics

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lets us act extemporaneously.

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And I believe that's what it did for me.

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So anytime I had a drink or smoked a joint,

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'cause my older brothers and sisters smoked a lot of pot,

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it was easy to get.

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And so I probably smoked more pot more frequently

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than I did drink.

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We had alcohol at home,

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but I never went into our liquor cabinet.

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It wasn't something I actually sought after like I did,

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like was pot.

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But anytime I did a drink or a drug,

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it changed the way it felt.

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And the things that I wasn't happy about doing

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suddenly didn't matter anymore.

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I was okay 'cause it changed the way it felt.

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When I was about 20, I went back to college

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and I discovered I couldn't remember what I was studying.

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It didn't matter if I smoked a joint before or after.

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So I just, and pot was making me paranoid.

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And I talk about drugs because at any time in my life,

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I have been able to stop the drugs when they stopped working

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and pot wasn't working for me anymore.

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So I just stopped it.

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At that point, I wasn't drinking a whole lot,

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but when I did drink, I always drank too much.

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And I ended up getting pregnant at about age 23

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and then we got married in that order.

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And then we had my husband and I had our second daughter

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two years later and we bought a house.

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Occasionally on Christmas,

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we might get a little bit of Coke and celebrate together,

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but it was just a little bit.

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And I've always wondered,

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whatever happened to the rest of it?

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I'm sure he must have done that on the side or something.

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But if we went out drinking for a special occasion,

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I always drink too much.

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I never thought that, oh, we're gonna go out and party

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and I'm gonna get drunk.

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Never thought of it that way.

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He'd say, you wanna drink?

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I'd say, sure, but it was always too many.

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And what happened was this.

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And then my kids are growing up

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and I have a full-time job.

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We have a house together, my husband and I.

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So I'm taking care of the house, the yard.

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I have full-time job and Girl Scout leader, Brownie leader

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and organizing bingo and school activities

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and taking care of my two aging parents.

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And then one day when my husband and I

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are cleaning out the garage

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and I guess my kids are about 10 and 12 maybe at that point,

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my neighbor comes over and he says, you want a bump?

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And we said, yes.

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So we did a little bump and that was meth.

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And then we got the garage done real quick.

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And then we went over to their house

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for some barbecue with margaritas.

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And that quickly became a weekend thing

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where we were doing the meth and the margaritas.

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But I found it harder to get up on Monday.

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So I started buying meth on the side.

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And then for the margaritas, who needs all that filler?

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I just started drinking straight tequila.

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And the big book also talks about how women

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are gone beyond recall in short amount of time.

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And that is my story.

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So as history likes to repeat itself,

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I ended up having an affair with my next door neighbor,

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drug dealer.

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And within I think less than a year of the day

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that my husband and I were cleaning out the garage that day,

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I was in my first treatment center.

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They had done an intervention on me, my family.

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And I heard things in this treatment center

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about the yes, how people talked about how they got DUIs.

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Well, that hadn't happened to me yet.

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Or they ended up in jail or a mental institution,

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lost families, crashed cars, lost jobs.

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None of that had happened to me yet.

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And they told me,

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you need to change your playground and your playmates.

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You need to change everything.

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And when I got out of that treatment center,

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I hadn't even had a parking ticket.

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So I really couldn't relate.

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And they told me that I could never have just one.

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And I heard it up here, but I didn't hear it here.

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I couldn't really grasp the concept

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of what that first drink does,

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that it causes the train wreck.

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And when I got out of treatment within a couple of days,

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I was back next door and doing meth

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and probably a day or two later, I was back drinking.

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And that kind of started the downward spiral

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of detoxes and treatment centers.

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The first thing of the yes to happen

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was I got fired from my job.

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I lost my job.

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They frowned upon me drinking at lunch.

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You know, can't imagine why.

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And it was a pretty good job.

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You know, I had for about eight years.

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That was the first thing to go.

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And then the next thing is I totaled my car.

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I drove drunk with my kids in the car.

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And thank God nobody was in the car that day

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and nobody was injured.

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I was on my way to pick up my daughter from school.

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And I totaled that car.

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And then I got a DUI and I ended up downtown

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in Twin Towers to serve just a couple of days.

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But I tell you, I had never even had a parking ticket

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and then I ended up in Twin Towers.

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And that was just awful there.

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I mean, it was just, I can't tell you how to provide.

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I was when I was in there.

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And the next thing I think to go after that was the oh.

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So, you know, I'm on this downward spiral

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of going in and out of treatment centers.

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And, you know, I have to tell you,

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I have these two little girls and by this time

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I'm probably like two years into my drinking.

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And I've kicked my husband out of the house

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because he's kind of in the way.

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And sometimes I would go to treatment centers

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and then come home and go to AA.

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And then I'd start drinking again.

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And I like to detox at home and take phenobarbital.

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And I really had the intention of not drinking,

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but given my own device left up to my own choice,

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if there's alcohol or I can get alcohol, I'm gonna drink.

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So I was doing phenobarb and drinking.

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And one day I called my doctor so I could detox at home.

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She wasn't there.

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And the doctor that was on call said,

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no, we're not gonna do that.

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You need to go to the hospital to detox.

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And I said, well, I can't do that.

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I might as well just kill myself.

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No, doctors don't take that lightly.

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So I hung up the phone and I told my kids

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I was gonna go to the store and get something

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to make them for dinner.

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And as I'm backing out of my driveway

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and I lived on a cul-de-sac,

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I see LAPD coming down my street.

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And I thought, oh, that's not good.

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I pull back in my driveway and I went into the house

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and I locked the front door and I went out the back door

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and I hid in the dog house.

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And I'm in the dog house and I'm thinking,

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oh, this is where they're gonna look.

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So I go back in the house and they're at the front door

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and I opened the door and you don't have to do that,

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by the way, if this ever, you don't have to do that.

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And I see my neighbor, my drug dealer,

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I'm having the affair with out front

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and he's kind of watching.

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And I want you to know, my kids are home at this time.

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And so I invite them in because I don't want my neighbor

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to hear what they're saying.

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And after a short amount of time,

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they decide that it would be better

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if they took me into custody.

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So they put me into handcuffs

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and my two kids are in the front yard

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and they walk me outside and they put me

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in the back of the patrol car.

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Originally, they were gonna call somebody

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to come and take my kids.

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But I asked them to please call my husband

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and he said he would come home and take care of them.

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So I ended up in a psych ward for three days.

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But you know, my kids saw all of this happen.

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And I would think that would be enough

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to have me like come to my senses, but it wasn't.

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As soon as I got out of that psych ward,

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I was back next door doing meth and continued to drink.

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What ended up happening is I kept going back

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to Alcoholics Anonymous.

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And I wanted to thank you guys all for that

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because you have never once told me,

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Teresa, you can't come here anymore if you're not sober

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because I came many times when I was drunk.

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And this one summer,

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I had been in treatment for about six months

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and I drank there and they kicked me out.

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And I had a little bit of money

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'cause my parents had passed away and left me some money.

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So I had this little apartment and I was living all alone.

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I was unemployable and I was drinking around the clock

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from the time I woke up until the time I went to bed.

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And every day I would say to myself,

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I'm just gonna have a half pint

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and then tomorrow I'm not gonna drink anymore.

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And I would drink that half pint down

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and then I would pass out and I'd get up

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and I would start all over.

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But I had every intention of this is gonna be

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my last one and I would tell myself that all day long.

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And I'd go through four and five pints of tequila

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and I would pass out and I would wake up.

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And then around seven or eight o'clock at night,

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I would take maybe four nights off and I would drink it,

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drink it down with some tequila

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and I'd say a little prayer like this.

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God, please don't let me wake up tomorrow.

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I was really okay with dying,

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but I didn't know how to do the living thing anymore.

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And that one day I was supposed to take my daughters

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somewhere and I had been trying to get sober that summer.

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It was the summer of 2002 and I kept going back

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to this book study, a women's book study.

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And they gave me the cake commitment,

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even though sometimes I'd show up

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and I had been drinking at nine o'clock in the morning.

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But they kept telling me, just keep coming back.

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And so I kept bringing the cake and I kept coming back.

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And this one time I was supposed

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to take my daughter somewhere.

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And I got three, four, five days sober maybe.

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And then I'd feel uncomfortable.

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This one day I just, I felt uncomfortable,

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that irritable, restless, discontent feeling.

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I thought, I'm just gonna have

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that one little $2 bottle and then I'll feel better

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and just get terrible, be okay.

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And so I had that little $2 bottle

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and of course it ended up in a step.

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And by the time she got there in the afternoon,

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I couldn't take her where she needed to go.

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And I told her she needed to take the bus home.

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And she said to me, mom,

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the bottle has always been more important to you

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than we were.

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And I said to her, and I believed this

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with all my heart at the time.

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I said to her, Jess, if that's not true,

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I love you very much.

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As she walked out my front door,

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she slammed the door so hard that it broke the door jamb.

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And when I woke up the next morning,

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what I heard in my head was this,

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that alcohol is my master

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and I will never be able to have just one.

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And that was September 11th of 2002.

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And I haven't had a drink or a drug.

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Now I had quit the meth a couple of years before

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just because the only person who I knew to get it from

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was my neighbor, my drug dealer neighbor.

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And he wouldn't have anything to do with me anymore

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'cause I was really, really crazy.

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I mean, I'd be up on my rooftop

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peeking in his windows at night.

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Pretty crazy.

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So I went back to that women's meeting that night

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or to the women's book study.

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And I said to my sponsor, I said, I think I'm done.

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And she said, okay, here's what you're gonna do.

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Now she would tell me, when she would previously tell me,

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here's what you're gonna do,

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I would say, I know, I know, I know.

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And she told me, Teresa, you don't know shit.

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That's why you can't stay sober.

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And she said, you're gonna be of service

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to the women here in Alcoholics Anonymous.

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And I said, okay.

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And she said, you're gonna go to the meetings

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I tell you to, and you're gonna have a commitment

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at each of those meetings.

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You're gonna do three a day during the week

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and four on the weekends.

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She said, you are unemployable, so you need to keep busy.

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So I said, okay.

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And we began to work the steps in earnest

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to the best of my ability at the time.

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And the book, it talks about how the steps,

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how this program is designed for living.

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And that is absolutely true.

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And it was slow, it was so slow going.

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That part about it in step one where we had to accept

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we were alcoholic in our innermost self.

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I finally got that, that I could never have just one

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because when I had one, it set off the craving

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and the craving set off a compulsion

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that I was sure to have more.

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So we're reading a lot about that daily reflections

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right now that I love this part of the daily reflection.

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So we started to go through the steps,

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but my sponsor was very active.

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And so we had a lot of fellowship going on

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and the women in this program really pulled me up

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by my bootstraps and held me close 'cause they kept me close.

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You know, we went to, we had birthday parties,

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we went camping, we did so much fun stuff.

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We were busy, just busy, busy.

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And, you know, in the days when it was hard,

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'cause it was hard not to pick up a drink,

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I just could not not drink for about five years.

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I just couldn't not drink.

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And man, I'm glad I don't have to go down that path,

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you know, today, what a dark, dark place that was.

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So we started to do the steps.

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Like, sorry, I lost my train of thought,

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but then I was talking about the women in the program

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and the fun stuff that we did

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because we still do fun stuff here in AA.

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If it wasn't good, I wouldn't still be here.

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When I think about having 23 years of sobriety,

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I think, how the heck did that happen?

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You know, and I know how it happened.

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It's because of Alcoholics Anonymous and God.

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You know, I have a God of my understanding today.

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That's not the Santa Claus God I believed in,

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but I kind of grew up with when I was a little kid.

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I have a God of my understanding that I have a relationship

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with and that I really try to develop that relationship

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on a daily basis.

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I don't do this program perfectly, far from it.

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I make a lot of mistakes.

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The God thing and turning my life and my will over

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to the care of God in step three.

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You know, that was a hard concept for me.

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I didn't quite get it.

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And then somebody said, "It's like getting out of bed

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in the morning and you know the floor is there."

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She says, "You don't question it."

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It's the same thing with step three.

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God is always there.

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You're a higher power.

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If you don't believe in God and you're struggling

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with that concept, it's okay.

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You know, just believe that there's something

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more powerful out there than yourself.

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And in four, when I did my inventory with my sponsor,

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she, you know, she helped me see what my part and stuff was

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'cause a lot of things I could not see.

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I just didn't get it.

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And she showed me what those things were.

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And she said, "You never have to do this again."

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And then she showed me my character defects.

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Now my character defects are far from being gone.

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You know, as much as I would like them to be gone,

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they just pop up, but they look different.

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You know, a different situation, a different year,

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a different time.

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Somebody shared in a meeting that went to this morning.

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And she said, "You know, one of my character defects

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is this, this, this, and because of that."

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And I went, "Oh, I never thought of that,

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but it made perfect sense."

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And I thought, "I do that."

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You know, and that's another thing I love

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about this program is that, you know,

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I never stopped learning ever.

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I never, I will never graduate from Alcoholics Anonymous.

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It's a life journey and what a gift that is.

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One of the things I heard when I first came in

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was about my, "It's not so much about the drinking."

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Well, when I, the first couple of years,

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it was about the drinking for me.

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My first year was very, it was hard for me not to drink.

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As much as I wanted not to, I prayed real hard not to.

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And so when people would say, "It's not about the drinking,

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it's about my thinking," I just didn't get that.

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And I thought, "Well, take a drink

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and then tell me it's not about the drinking."

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But today I get it.

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It's the part in the book that says

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we had to get down to causes and conditions.

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It is definitely my thinking and how I react to situations.

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And, you know, I want to talk about step nine and the amends.

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So a couple of years ago, I've made my amends,

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but a couple of years ago,

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one of my brothers came down from Wyoming

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and I hadn't seen him for about 20 years.

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And I hadn't talked to him probably about that.

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Maybe 15 to 20, because he had said something

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probably in a drunken stupor, but it frightened me.

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And I just stayed away from him,

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as did most of my family after that.

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But he was coming down to stay with my brother

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up on the Central Coast, and I was invited to go up,

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and I really didn't want to go.

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So I called my sponsor and I said,

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"You know, I think I owe him an amends,

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'cause I've never made an amends to him."

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And we talked about it and I decided to go,

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because that's what I was taught here.

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You know, you make direct amends when you can.

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And I went up there and my nieces and,

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some of my nieces and nephews were there.

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My brothers and sisters were there,

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'cause we hadn't seen this one brother, Mike,

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I would say his name, for quite some time.

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And, you know, the opportunity to make an amends just,

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it wasn't the appropriate time.

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And, but I was willing to do it.

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And just in that willingness to do it came

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a lot of forgiveness and a lot of healing.

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And I think there was healing on both of our parts.

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And we hosted this at my brother Gerald's place.

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And he, you know, this year has been a little difficult.

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We, my brother Gerald passed away this year,

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and it was very hard on my family.

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He passed away from treatment, the treatment of cancer,

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not the cancer, but the treatment.

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But thank goodness for that treatment,

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because it gave him 20 more years of a really good life.

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And I had a chance to make, you know,

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to bond with him and to be closer to him.

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And after he passed away, you know, I called my sponsor

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and I said, you know, I can't remember

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if I made amends to him.

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But that was the first thing I thought about is,

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oh my gosh, did, am I good?

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Did we leave on good terms?

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And I got to be there close with him

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when he was unconscious.

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And I called, a couple of my sisters couldn't be there.

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So I called them from his hospital bed and he's unconscious.

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And I said, hey, you want to talk to Gerald?

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And they were so grateful for that little opportunity

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to be able to talk to him.

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And whether he heard them or not is not the point,

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but they got to say goodbye, you know,

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because I had gone up there,

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made the day trip up there to be with him.

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And, you know, all of that

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is because of Alcoholics Anonymous.

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Yeah, and the end result of that conversation

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was my sponsor came to the conclusion,

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yes, I made amends.

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You know, I thought, oh yeah, no, I did.

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We were good.

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You know, this program, like I said,

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I don't do it perfectly.

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I make so many of the same mistakes over and over.

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I feel like that little Duracell battery guy

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that runs into the wall and just,

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I'm like, when am I gonna learn, you know?

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But I don't do it intentionally,

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but it just seems like a good idea at the time.

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And there I go again.

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But thank goodness for Alcoholics Anonymous

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that it doesn't say I have to do the same perfectly.

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Otherwise I couldn't be here anymore.

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It just says it's progress, you know,

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progress, not perfection.

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And so I get up and I try again to do it better.

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Maria, you said it perfectly.

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You know, we get up and we do it, keep it simple.

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We just try to do it good today.

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You know, try to do the next right good thing today.

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So Abraham, thank you for letting me share.

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I wanna thank all of you for being here

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and for being present in Alcoholics Anonymous.

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You guys have saved my life.

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You know, I, and I have gotten,

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I wouldn't like to say beyond my wildest dreams,

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but a life I didn't know I wanted or needed.

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And I've gotten that through AA, so thank you.

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(muffled speaking)

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- Oh look, I'm right there.

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Welcome to the Quality of Life,

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Saturday speaker meeting of Alcoholics Anonymous.