Brandy's Journey: From Foster Care to Sobriety and Relapse
S26:E04

Brandy's Journey: From Foster Care to Sobriety and Relapse

Episode description

Brandy shares her life story—from being adopted and feeling different, to early drug experimentation, a painful blackout, and a deepening love for alcohol. She recounts a recent relapse during the pandemic, the grip of craving, and how the fellowship of AA helped her find a path back to sobriety.

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- Hi, my name's Brandy and I'm an alcoholic.

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- Hi Brandy.

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- Welcome to Anyone That's New.

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And thank you so much for your lead before mine.

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It was really good to hear your story.

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My sobriety date is June 7th of 2020.

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It is not my first sobriety date.

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Before that I had two years and two weeks

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and then I relapsed during the pandemic.

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I drank for a day and by the grace of God

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came back into the rooms of Alcoholics Anonymous

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the next day.

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And just kind of like they say,

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it's like really hard to drink

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when you have a head full of AA.

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I remember sitting in my kitchen drunk

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literally like writing out the 12 steps like crying.

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Like I was like, how did I get here again, right?

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But like, that's the illness.

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Thinking that I could just take one

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and I proved to myself that I could not.

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But yeah, so, you know, like what makes me an alcoholic

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is very much so like what you talked about too, right?

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Like what's in the book, what's in the doctor's opinion

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is once I take one, it develops that phenomenon of craving

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and I cannot stop like on my own willpower, right?

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And so like during that relapse, I really learned that

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because I really thought I was just gonna have one beer

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and then it escalated to another beer and then another beer.

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And then I was like reaching for vodka

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and I just was like, how is this happening again, right?

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And so anyways, also like I think everything

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I'm about to share is just like my own personal experience.

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I don't think any of it is like

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what made me an alcoholic or not.

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I think what makes me an alcoholic too is just,

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I like the effects produced by alcohol period.

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But I will share kind of like what it was like

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and what it's like now.

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I was born in Santa Monica.

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I drug tested positive for opiates when I was born.

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I immediately got taken away from my biological mom

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and put into foster care.

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I got put into foster care in Santa Clarita.

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My foster parents ended up adopting me.

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Thank goodness, I didn't have to go from home to home

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like some of my other siblings had to.

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I grew up with an older sister and two brothers.

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I was the only person in my family that was adopted.

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I had everything I ever needed.

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I grew up in a four story house

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with a basketball court and a pool

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and we took family vacations

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and I was very much so loved by my family.

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But again, I always felt very different.

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My whole family is blonde hair and blue eyes.

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They're all white.

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I knew from a young age that something was kind of different

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and I noticed when I went to kindergarten,

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yeah, I came home and I asked my mom,

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I'm like, how come I don't look like you

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or anyone in this house?

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I was really confused.

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She always was honest with me.

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She told me you didn't come from my tummy.

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You were adopted.

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I didn't know what that meant.

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I later on learned what that meant

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and she sat me down and told me the reason

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why I was adopted much later in life.

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I think I was in high school when we had that conversation.

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And yeah, so I don't know.

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I grew up and had a really good childhood.

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I got into seventh grade,

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I think was the first time I smoked weed.

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Again, just like trying to fit in with everyone,

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didn't feel a part of, felt uncomfortable in my own skin.

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Smoked weed, I drank a little bit,

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but I didn't like the taste of alcohol.

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I didn't like the taste of beer.

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I thought it was gross.

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I didn't understand why people did it.

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Fast forward, I get to high school

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and again, just like trying to fit in with everyone.

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And I drank with some people

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and I got completely blacked out.

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I drank a whole bottle of Jaeger and red wine.

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It was the first time I was drunk.

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I blacked out and threw up all in this guy's car.

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It was terrible.

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My friends didn't know what to do with me.

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They just went and dropped me off at another friend's house.

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They had to carry me in and my friend's mom

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had to put me in the shower and hose me off.

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And it was just the most embarrassing thing.

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I got grounded right away.

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I got my cell phone and everything taken away.

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And I didn't touch alcohol after that for a couple of years.

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I didn't think it was fun.

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I didn't get it.

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I was like, obviously this is not for me.

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I didn't have that feeling that some people have

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where they're like, ah, I didn't have that right away.

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And yeah, so I didn't touch alcohol for a while,

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but I did start messing around with drugs.

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I started doing acid and smoking more weed and taking ecstasy

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and going to a bunch of raves.

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And that was back when EDC was still in LA.

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And I just like, that I loved.

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I definitely felt that ease and comfort

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from taking ecstasy and doing drugs and things like that.

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And yeah, I was off.

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I was doing it every single weekend, couldn't stop.

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And then I think by the time I was 19, I was smoking meth.

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It escalated very fast.

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And yeah, I got too high one time.

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And again, had this spiritual experience kind of.

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I had this outer body experience.

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I think I had been up for a couple of days.

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I thought I saw myself from above

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and my friends were shaking me to come to.

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And I thought I died and it was just this whole thing.

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And again, it scared me so bad that I was like,

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oh my God, not touching that again.

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I literally just thought I died.

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So there's all these signs too, right?

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God was trying to tell me, stop.

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But again, so I stopped for a little bit

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and then switched back to,

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okay, well, let me try drinking again

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because it's been some time and let me start doing that.

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Just all the things it talks about in the book,

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switching and justifying and trying to make sense

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of all of it, right?

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And yeah, so I started drinking again

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and completely fell in love with it.

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Fell in love with beer, fell in love with hard alcohol,

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you know, was just like out partying

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and just was off to the races.

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And during this time, my brother,

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who I watched my entire life go in and out of treatment,

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go to multiple rehabs, multiple seizures,

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you know, he in 2014 got into a car accident and died.

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And he, you know, was one of us,

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he was drinking and driving, he was leaving work.

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He had just like lost, you know,

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he lost like this job that he had for a really long time.

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He was a chef and, you know, he lost his job.

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So my parents were living in Palm Springs at the time

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and they thought it would be a good idea

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to move him closer to them so they could try to watch him,

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I guess, or help him or,

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they didn't know what to do with him at this point.

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And so he was leaving work

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and he had someone else in the car with him

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and he went over like the median

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and then tried to like correct himself.

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And another car came and hit him and teebowed him

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and he died on impact.

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And the other person in the car lived.

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Thank God, thank God the other person lived.

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And yeah, they said his body was unrecognizable.

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The only thing they could recognize him by

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and identify him by was a tattoo that he had on his back.

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And yeah, I was 24 when that happened

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and it was absolutely devastating.

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Like my family did not know how to handle that.

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And I didn't know how to handle that.

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And so if I wasn't already like an everyday drinker,

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I quickly, quickly became one

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and my disease just went even higher

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than I thought it could, right?

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And you would think that that situation would scare me,

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but I didn't even like put it together

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that like, oh, because of his drinking,

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because he was under the influence,

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like I didn't even think of that.

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Like, oh, maybe I should slow down my drinking.

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Oh, maybe I shouldn't drink and drive.

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Oh, maybe I shouldn't be driving around with a tall can

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and then having another tall can in my glove compartment.

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Like that thought never occurred to me.

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It absolutely never occurred to me.

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And my other brother,

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I remember right after my brother Trevor had passed,

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my brother Kyle came up to me and he goes,

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you're my brother now.

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And I said, okay.

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And we partied, like me and my other brother,

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like, and again, like not even the thought of like,

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maybe we should slow it down or, you know,

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we just like, we did not know how to handle this grief.

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Right?

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We did not know how to deal with life on life's terms.

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Like we had to watch my parents go through this, right?

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Like I lost a brother, but they lost a son.

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And it was like, it was so devastating.

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And me and my brother, you know,

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didn't know how to handle it.

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And we just, we were using together.

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We were drinking together.

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We were, you know,

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and it wasn't until the end of probably 2016

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that then I was again using drugs every day,

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drinking every day.

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I was, you know, getting kicked out of bars,

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not getting invited anymore.

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Just all these things, you know,

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no one wanted to hang out with me.

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And my brother sat me down.

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Him and this guy I was dating at the time,

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who the guy I was using with every single day,

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him and my brother sat me down and they were like,

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"Hey, if you don't get help, like we are so scared of you.

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"We don't know what to do with you.

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"If you don't get help," like my brother was like,

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"I'm gonna go to mom and dad.

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"Like, I don't know what to do."

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And I said, "Okay, all right."

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You know?

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And that was like one of my like first kind of rock bottoms

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was like hearing it from my brother, you know,

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it like kind of was like, all right,

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I think I need to do something about this, right?

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And so I was like, I'll go to therapy.

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I was like, I'll go to therapy and I'll figure out

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like why I'm like this or what's going on

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or why I can't stop.

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And so I went to therapy and after my first therapy session,

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she gave me a homework assignment and she said,

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"You need to go to an alcoholic synonymous meeting."

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And she said, "And then when we meet next week,

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"we can talk about it."

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And I said, "Oh, okay."

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And so I did, I went to my first AA meeting.

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It was in Hollywood on Sunset.

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It was at the Rainbow Room, which is a bar,

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which I thought was very interesting.

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And I walked upstairs and I was like,

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I don't know if I'm in the right place.

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And they were like, "You are."

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I sat in that meeting and I don't remember too much.

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I do remember this person shared

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and it was so sad what they had shared.

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And I remember sitting there and being like,

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"Why am I here?

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"This is sad.

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"People are talking about sad things.

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"I'm already sad and depressed.

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"I don't wanna come here about other people's problems."

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And I remember walking out

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and I don't know if someone came up to me or what,

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but someone handed me the big book.

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And it's the same big book that I have today.

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And I didn't read it then at all.

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It sat on my shelf for another year.

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But yeah, I left there crying.

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And I was like, "I'm never going back there again."

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So again, I tried to do the whole therapy thing.

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And I was trying to wean myself off of cocaine.

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And so I was doing Adderall,

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but then I was still drinking.

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But I was like, "Oh, I'm 30 days off cocaine."

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I was just the insanity of all of it.

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And so me and the guy I was using with,

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we broke up, it didn't work out, shocker.

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And I immediately got into another relationship

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like a few weeks later.

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And same thing happened, right?

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This guy sat me down and he said,

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"Hey, you have a serious drinking problem

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"and you need to stop and you need help."

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But he also said, "I think I have one too."

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And he's like, "I'm gonna stop."

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And I was like, "Oh, okay."

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And so at this point too, right?

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I needed to have a little bit more experience

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'cause I did end up dating this guy

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and I ended up in the hospital.

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I had to like, I was riding one of those bird scooters

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and I ran into a pole and bashed my whole face open.

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And I tried to fight the paramedics.

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They were trying to put a neck brace on me

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and I ripped it off and threw it at them

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and was screaming with blood dripping down my face.

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And I don't know how I didn't get arrested.

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But like things like that were like happening.

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And again, that's when he sat me down.

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And so I said, "Okay," I said, "Fine."

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And his dad had passed away from cirrhosis of the liver.

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And so he had seen where this illness can take us.

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And so that's why he was wanting to stop

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'cause he knew he had taken it too far as well.

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And so, you know, we tried to do it.

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Like I cut like cold turkey and I got really sick

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and it was really, really hard.

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And again, still was not gonna go to AA,

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but I got a gym membership

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and I was reading all these spiritual books

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and we were going to the gym like every single day.

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It was all we were doing.

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And it worked for a little bit.

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It did, it worked for about 10 months.

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And I was miserable.

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I was so miserable.

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And I could not remember why I stopped.

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I was like, "Why are we doing this again?"

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And, you know, but I was gonna prove to him

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that I could not drink for a year, right?

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That was like my whole goal was like,

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"I can do this," you know, just...

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And so thank goodness his mom was a member of Alcoholics

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Anonymous and had 13 years sober.

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And I remember sitting in her kitchen,

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he was from the East Coast from Boston.

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And I remember sitting in the kitchen and talking to her

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and just being like, "Yeah, like, you know,

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I have like 10 months and, you know,

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I think we're doing good, but like,

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I don't remember why like I'm even doing this."

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And she was like, "You need to go to Alcoholics Anonymous."

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She was like, "You have no solution."

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She's like, "That's why you feel this way," you know?

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And I think she got out her book

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and was like reading some stuff to me.

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And I just said, "Okay, yeah, you know what?

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I'll go."

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And so I was living in Santa Monica at the time.

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And I went to another meeting.

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It was like a Monday night meeting at the Marina Center.

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And I walked in and there were like people my age there.

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And there were like all these girls there.

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And they were like all, you know, had tattoos

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and they all worked in recovery.

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And they all had like three years of sobriety.

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And I thought they were lying

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and I couldn't even believe it, you know?

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Like I was like, "What?"

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Like, "You guys just look cool."

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Like I was like, just like, I was like, "I don't know."

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And so, yeah, they just kind of like

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took me under their wing and I sat in the meeting

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and I feel like I actually listened

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and like heard what people were saying.

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And I was like, "Wow, this whole time, you know,

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I just thought I was like crazy

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or like I was acting this way because I was adopted."

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Or like all these things that I like made up in my head

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of like, "I have trauma.

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This is why I can act this way or be this way

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or do whatever," you know?

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And no, they explained it to me and, you know,

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they told me like, "You need to get a sponsor like right away

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and you need to work these steps."

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And they invited me to go to In-N-Out with them afterwards.

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And I was like, "Wow, I feel a part of something," you know?

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And so I did, I got a sponsor like the next day.

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My first sponsor, Haley, she's absolutely amazing.

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She's not my sponsor anymore.

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She moved to Tennessee.

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I still call her for things.

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We still talk pretty much daily.

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She's amazing.

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She's the first woman to take me through all 12 steps.

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And she gave me direction, you know?

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And I think my first time around,

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what happened was I still thought

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I was very much so in control.

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You know, if you ever asked me to share at a meeting,

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I always said no.

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If you asked me to read chapter five or anything, I said no.

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You know, I was not taking direction really.

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I was in the work and in the steps,

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but I just like was still only like picking

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and choosing what I wanted to do.

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And I really was only going to like one meeting a week

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and didn't have a commitment, you know?

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And all these things were suggested to me.

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Like you should raise your hand and share.

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You should get a commitment.

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You should probably go to like a women's meeting too.

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Like all these things were, you know, suggested.

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And I was like, no, I'm okay, I'm good, I'm all right.

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You know, I got this, I'm good, you know?

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Like, and then COVID happened and everything shut down.

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And like my one meeting that I went to got taken away.

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And that was like where I got to hang out

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with all my friends, you know?

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And I refused to do Zoom meetings.

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And I was still a little bit in the work,

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but I just don't think I was like fully ready.

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And I think it was also because somebody else

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was telling me I needed to.

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And so I was still trying to prove a point,

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I think, to other people.

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And that like frothiness of other people's like emotions

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of them telling me, you know, it didn't work.

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'Cause I wasn't really fully ready to stop.

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And I still had reservations.

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I still kept being like,

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oh, but once I hit this amount of time,

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or, oh, well, once I get married,

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or, oh, well, once I'm retired, you know?

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Like I still thought that I could manage and control it

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maybe one day.

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And I think I was probably at like step six or seven

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when I relapsed.

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And yeah, again, like I remembered it was when

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like all those riots and everything were going on

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in Santa Monica and I was like super scared.

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And I remember I had gotten into a big fight

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with my boyfriend and I was like, you know,

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drove back out to Santa Clarita because I knew

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that there was alcohol at my parents' place.

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And so I drove all the way from Santa Monica

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to my parents' house in Santa Clarita

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because I knew there was alcohol there

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and I knew I could hide it 'cause nobody was there.

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And I, instead of calling my sponsor,

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I called my one friend who she might be one of us.

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And I called another friend who he might be one of us too.

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And I told them, "I think I'm gonna drink."

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And they both 100% validated and said,

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"Yeah, I think you could just have one."

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And I said, "Yep, that's the answer I'm looking for."

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And so again, that's what I did and I drank, yeah.

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And guess what?

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I couldn't, I couldn't just have one.

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And like I said, you know, in the beginning,

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I was reaching for the bottle of vodka

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when then my boyfriend I was dating at the time

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then walked in on me.

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And that's the only reason I didn't touch it

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was because he grabbed it out of my hand and set it down.

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But I was going for it, you know?

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And I knew like if I drank that,

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I probably then was gonna pick up, you know?

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And like fentanyl wasn't as big of a thing as it is now,

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you know, back when I was using.

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So who knew what could have happened, right?

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And so I called my sponsor the next day

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and you know, told her that I had relapsed

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and she was like, "Yeah, I get it."

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You know, she's like, "Well, you missed something.

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So let's go back."

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I said, "Okay."

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I was so embarrassed.

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And she was like, "Girl, I've been to rehab 13 times.

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You're good."

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Like, that's like, she literally was like,

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"This is like your experience."

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Like this is, you know?

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And I was like, "All right."

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And so we got right back into the steps.

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We got into the work and I really did absolutely everything

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that she suggested this time.

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I sat in all these new meetings.

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I messaged people for their numbers.

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I called people.

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I did all of the stuff, right?

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I worked these steps.

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And I would say it was when I got to about step nine

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and I made my first amends and I was like,

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"I think this is what everyone is talking about."

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I was like, "I think this is like the spiritual experience."

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And I think like this awakening is like starting

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to happen to me.

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And it really opened my eyes, right?

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And then, you know, things started opening back up.

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I moved back out to Santa Clarita.

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And again, I just got super, super involved.

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I joined, you know, young people's committees.

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I secretaried meetings.

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And again, like in this past like five and a half years,

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I've did everything opposite.

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I did those first two years, you know,

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like my life depends on it because it does.

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It absolutely does.

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Like this is a very serious thing.

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And, you know, I continued to work with others,

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like throughout this entire sobriety, you know,

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and I always say yes to helping others,

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to speaking at meetings, you know.

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I've constantly had a commitment in this sobriety.

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I've had multiple commitments, you know, at a time.

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And again, I'm like not trying to say all this

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to be like on this like spiritual high top

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or anything like that, you know,

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where it's just like, this is just again,

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what has been suggested to me.

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And so it's just like, I've done all of it, you know.

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And I don't know like which part's working more

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or which part's working less or, you know.

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So I'm just going to continue to do all of it

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because I'm too scared to like stop one over here,

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do this or pull back, you know.

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And again, I don't do this perfectly at all.

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Like there's been times where I've been a little bit dry,

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you know, where I've been like,

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I don't need to go to the meeting

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or I don't need to pick up the phone

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or I don't need to drive all the way to Malibu

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to meet a newcomer to read, you know,

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like there's times where I'm like, do I still have to do this

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you know, but I do.

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I absolutely need to because I am selfish

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and I am self-centered to my core.

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Like those are my default settings

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and what's been suggested to me

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and the best way to get out of self is to help others, right.

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And, you know, I got this new sponsor

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that I've been working with

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and I heard her speak at a meeting this past summer

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and she just carried this message of like depth and weight

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and she talked about doing the steps very quickly,

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very quickly, immediately putting someone on a third step

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and immediately putting them the second week on a fourth step

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and she's very big into pages 60 to 63

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and had me reading those every single morning

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and she really like has been going through this book with me

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line by line, multiple third step book studies, you know,

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has me call her every day.

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How are you helpful towards others, right?

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Did you read your pages?

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And if I'm like, oh no, I haven't read the pages yet

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but she hangs up on me.

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I'm like, oh, she's like, call me when you read them.

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Like, okay, I read them every day, I just didn't yet.

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And she's like, cool, don't care.

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Call me once you've read them, you know, like,

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and she's hard on me and she's like nothing personal, right?

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Like she's just like, this is life or death.

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And it is, it's a very serious thing, you know,

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and I needed that, like I needed that.

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Like, you know, I've had a couple of sponsors

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throughout this sobriety and she's just kind of like

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what I need right now.

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And it's been like a really good experience, you know,

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and again, like I think what has helped again,

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like this whole time is always just reading

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with someone like that is the best way to get out of self.

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And it's just such like a spiritual experience, right?

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Like sitting down and reading the book with someone

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and you're like, I don't understand

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how this is gonna help me, right?

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But then you're like in the first three chapters

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and you're explaining this illness to them

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and how it centers in our mind

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and you're having them like go through the steps

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and do the readings and sharing your experience.

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And like, you know, it's like the whole point

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of this thing, right?

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The whole goal is like I want to have that obsession removed

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'cause why else would I do this

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if I didn't want that, right?

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I don't wanna be like sitting in a meeting, you know,

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still thinking about drinking and using with time.

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That's crazy.

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And so, you know, like I've had that obsession be removed.

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I can go places that normal people can go, right?

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And I don't even ever think about it, you know?

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And again, it's because I'm constantly in the book,

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constantly being of service, like,

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and just like always relying on my higher power,

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like always like knowing that there's God in everything,

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you know, like even coming to speak here tonight,

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like my sponsor was like, you go.

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And I'm like, yeah, of course, whatever, you know,

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like whatever you need.

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And so, yeah, I don't know.

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I'm just like super grateful for, you know,

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everything I've gotten in sobriety.

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Like again, my life isn't perfect, but you know,

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I left my nine to five job to follow my passion

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as a hairdresser.

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I am running the LA marathon with BitShuva

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and get to fundraise money for them

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and they're, you know, amazing recovery group

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on the west side.

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And, you know, I just got my Pilates certification

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and like, I just like things I would have never

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dreamt about, right?

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Like things I didn't even know I wanted to be goals,

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like are things that I'm doing now.

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And it's just, yes, it's just, it's a blessing.

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And I'm just so grateful for my sobriety

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and my life today.

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So thanks, that's how I got it.