James' Journey: From Chaos to Sobriety
S26:E18

James' Journey: From Chaos to Sobriety

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James shares his life story, from a tumultuous youth marked by alcohol, drugs, and family upheaval, to finding grounding through faith and the USR fellowship. He reflects on the challenges of relapse, mental health struggles, and the lasting support of his recovery community.

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- Hi, I'm James Francis, I'm an alcoholic.

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My celebrity date is May 20th, 2016,

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and my home group is the U.S.R. group,

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Men's Stag Fellowship.

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I'm coming up on a birthday, of course,

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in a couple weeks, and it's getting to be

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pressure, somehow, you know,

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these, I guess, difficult feelings of

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some disgruntledness have started to set in,

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where I feel like, if I didn't know better,

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that I could throw it all away,

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and I could say, it would be so easy

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to throw it all away, but I know better,

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I know that I got a God in my life,

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and my God has been my number one,

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and I've started to find that path

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where there's other God people on my path,

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other people that I pray with,

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other people that I listen to,

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and other people that are in family,

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that, you know, their life has evolved around God.

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So, I started out as a youngster,

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I was born into a family of,

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I have nine brothers and sisters ahead of me,

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and then I'm the youngest boy,

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and then I have four younger sisters below me,

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and there's 14 kids in the family,

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and I'm the youngest boy at 10,

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and my youngest sister was born when I was 15 years old,

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so she was born quite late,

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and she evened up the category of seven boys

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and seven girls for our family,

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and it was like, I had done some things

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when I was 15 that I thought I would be able

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to be following some kind of basic lifestyle

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of getting married and having children,

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but at 15, I started a life of acting influenced

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by the ways of sex, drugs, and rock and roll,

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and I was off and running to chase after

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this supposed girlfriend that I was supposed

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to get together with,

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and I had some ways of my experience

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family was Catholic, so we were brought up

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in a good unity of a Catholic faith

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with all the Catholic schooling,

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and all the family had some way of,

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there was a network of families that had kids in my class,

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kids in my brother's class, kids in my sister's class.

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They had four kids, and we had the same grades, kids,

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and then other classes had older relationships

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with my brothers that were older,

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my sisters that were older,

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and it was just this way of,

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that felt like one big, large togetherness

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until just about junior year of high school

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when things really started getting like,

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my dad got offered a job to go away

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after my junior year of high school,

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and I started doing drugs and drinking,

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and I would, for a while I would steal drinks

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from my employer, I would steal drinks from my employer

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and try to get away with it.

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Can justify that it didn't matter,

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the company was well on their feet

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and somehow it became some ways of,

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I got a friend and when I moved away to this job

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that my dad got away, we moved from Northridge, California

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to Edmonds, Washington, and I got this friend

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that lived in Everett, it was at the college,

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I mean at the high school that I was at,

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and we began working at the same mini market,

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and we would start working,

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and then we stocked the beer cooler,

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and we had his mother was the cashier,

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and she was also an alcoholic,

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and his father was an alcoholic.

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So they had this way, the owner didn't probably care,

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they thought we had this way that we would stack the bottle,

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six pack of Rainier Ale in boxes

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when we took the boxes out, put them out in the trash can.

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So we would get drunk,

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and drugs are not really a part of my story,

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but one night we got drunk and we used acid,

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and we ended up at the Motel 6,

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and I thought it was,

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had done some, I was gonna be in real big trouble,

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I thought something really bad happened to me,

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and I didn't wanna do that ever again,

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and I never really touched drugs 'cause,

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except marijuana is because it never occurred to me

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that it was any thing,

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and I saw that it would be just a dangerous thing,

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I didn't think it was very, really, really, really helpful.

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I was always in the health,

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I liked sporting TV and all the ball of sports,

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and I'd see that the ones that were healthy

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kept a certain dietary and a way of life,

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and I lived like some way safe for a while,

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but I always got on these extended periods

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where I cheated, I got a way that I cheat,

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and I start forgetting about my healthful needs,

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and my life goes into this justifying splurges.

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I would give in, like, I'm trying to save for a car,

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or I'm trying to save for somewhere to go on a pilgrimage,

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and I'd say, oh, I could just spend money as,

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that's what I did on my last drunk.

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I first got sober in the road of 1988,

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and then I had a while there where I saw

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how life was fun again.

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I felt like the fellowship was perfect for me.

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I felt like the fellowship was perfect for me.

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1988, like '92, I felt like the fellowship was perfect.

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This is the way it's made my life really happy,

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and I got some time of, but it was always like,

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I get back somehow, and those ideas of stopping drinking

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was not that important, so I would not have kept sobriety.

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I would be, like, sober for a while, then just get drunk,

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and then not 'til '92, when I was free from this all of you,

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and in aborting care, did I get together

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with this home group, USR group, back in 1992,

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and I'd start going to meetings regular,

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and I'd see all the old-timers, Bob Fisher, Bill Waller,

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Dave Richardson, Jack Lynch, Raymond Gutierrez,

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and they would all have time with sobriety,

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and I would figure, oh, I'm gonna maybe be able

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to get time with sobriety.

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I'm gonna get that length of time with sobriety,

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and then when they share their length of time,

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I'm gonna share my length, and feel like I still

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got my length, I'm never gonna lose my length,

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but then came the day when I thought things were going good.

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Well, I'll be back in the mental hospital I was at.

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I got in this mental hospital situation,

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and I got a friend in the mental hospital,

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and when I got out and got in those boarding cares,

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and my life started getting better, she didn't get out,

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but I always would tread the road back on the bus,

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and still try to keep her friendship.

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I'd try to be like what they call that corporal

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or spiritual work of mercy for her,

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and this kind of concept of being someone

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that would come to her aid, and then what happened was

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that worked, it was keeping me sober for a while,

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and then I had this manager from the hospital

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used to take me out, and we'd go together

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in the movies and stuff, and I thought that was,

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I was having the time of my life in sobriety,

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'cause I was like going to the movies,

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and I saw all the different movies as it was,

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that was a real movie goer, and I come home,

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just a lot of bus riding, a lot of going,

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and then I have my basic meetings to go to,

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and then there was this path of somehow,

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I met this guy, Ray, would take me to meetings,

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and every time when I started getting the message,

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I'd say her something really good, and Ray would go,

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and he would give me a real thumbs up,

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but I feel like, yeah, I was doing good,

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but something finally got the better of me,

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and I started getting resentments

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towards these men at the men's seg,

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and started feeling like they're all getting something,

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and I'm not getting anything,

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like there was just this thing

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that was just outside of my reach

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that I couldn't get with the way I was living,

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and so eventually, I was going to school,

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and then I graduated at Pierce College in 2005,

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and then I transferred to CSUN,

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and I passed some classes at CSUN,

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but then I started not doing good at CSUN

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'cause the study got harder,

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and I didn't do the study.

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I just started doing the things

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that were playing around in the fellowship,

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and then this all leads up to finally,

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I had thought this girlfriend wasn't gonna work out.

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This friend in the hospital was starting to push me away

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as well as the fact that I didn't think

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it was gonna work out anyways

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because having a visitor on the bus,

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and the bus rides got harder to take

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with the crowd that was on the bus

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was kind of looking at me like,

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hey, you stranger, where are you from?

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And I didn't feel nothing but nervous,

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and the way that finally happened

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was that I started saying in college

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that I could get a younger girl

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that I remember from before it all started being

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a patient at a hospital.

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There was a girl in a young adult group club

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that I had at church.

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I started thinking I was hearing her voices in my mind.

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It was like I was gonna connect with her somehow,

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and I started chasing after the idea,

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and then I would try to say,

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'cause still gonna finally have this one dream come true,

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this relief from this broken relationship

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that I had in high school that ended up,

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and since I was a drunk and I had been doing nothing

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and I wasn't working and I wasn't responsible,

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we had got this girl pregnant,

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and she had off the child and abortion,

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and I went to the humiliation of that was something

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that I always wanted to be like my dad, having kids,

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and so I thought when I got to AA,

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I was trying to find this girl that would change it all

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and reform what I've been able to do,

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and then when this girl from young adult church group

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was in my mind, singing,

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"Yeah, that's probably the final path to AA thing

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"that's gonna happen for me,"

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so I started bringing it up with the guys in the home group

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saying, "Yeah, the story is,"

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and then they would tell me,

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"Just take your meds and go to bed.

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"Go to sleep at night and just don't chase after that trail

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"'cause it leads to wine country or something," so they say,

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"So I got a real resentment," I started singing,

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"They don't know me, they don't know how it was for me,"

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so I finally drank again thinking,

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"I'll show them how I could do this thing,"

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so I drank and then it was like, "What am I gonna do?"

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I had no idea where this girl

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from a young adult group was like,

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and so the only idea was then I could go to bars

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where I used to be with this girl from high school,

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and live that lifestyle again,

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so I tried to go to bars and live this lifestyle

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with a girl from high school,

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and then I found out, oh man,

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that really cost me a lot of money,

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and I don't have a lot of money.

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I'm not a rich dude.

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I'm not even working a career job,

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so I find out if that doesn't work, I better go back to AA,

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so I went bouncing back and forth to AA for a while

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trying to get my sobriety back,

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trying to get my life back together,

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and still trying to think,

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"Well, I don't have this.

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I didn't win at this girlfriend thing,"

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so the fact is I find that finally one guy saw

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that I was reading the book at least.

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I was going to this point of I got my books still,

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and I would get to read the book somewhere at home,

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or I would just do it at the park somewhere,

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and I would read all these, the doctor's opinion,

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the part from chapter one to chapter three to chapter five,

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and all the italics parts in between there.

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I read all the italics parts,

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and then I would read chapter, chapter, the parts,

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chapter three, chapter five, and the 12 traditions,

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and then there was especially like page 25, 26,

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or page 19 and 20 or something,

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and page 83 to 88, something like those pages

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that I was told to read,

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and so I saw this time of the fact

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that I was reading the book,

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and this guy saw that I was reading the book,

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so he says, "How about I offer to be a resource sponsor

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for you, and I'll read the book with you."

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I'll read the book.

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We could go through the book page by page

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every Wednesday at Reseda Park,

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and so it's during right after COVID

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when I had come back to the meetings,

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and there was some sense of I had got

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a little bit of sobriety,

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and that was, I guess, after this time,

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2026, 2016, about 2018,

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right after, so it was maybe right before COVID struck,

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17 or something, it was like 2017.

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So the feeling was I started reading the book.

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I started talking about some of my inventory.

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I started talking about some of my goal plans,

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some of the things that I was like resentful about

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that didn't happen for me,

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and I realized with all the different things

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that it said in the book

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that I might really have a problem.

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These people have discussed what we do as alcoholics

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and how we react according to that behavior

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that I had when I thought I could drink again

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when I had that idea,

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that it was like going against the better judgment

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of being in the group,

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so it was like, and then the younger days of my life,

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I saw the idea of what started me from the beginning of,

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I saw in the book some of the methods

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of what started me in the beginning

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when I was a younger kid,

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that the influence from my brothers

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and the influence from my older sisters,

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of how that played a part

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in the doctor's opinions, talks about,

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and the things that why I was actually in the group,

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an alcoholic, why it was that if I came to the conclusion

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that this thing could be for me as well,

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I maybe have to decide to jump in with both feet

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and stay away from those things

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that they talk about in the italics.

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And I guess the first line on page nine

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in the book of the italics says,

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when the one guy came to the bill

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and the book's bill story,

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it says, "The first italics words are, he was sober."

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That was the first thing.

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And that's one thing I see about my men's stat group

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and that I saw before that when I was younger,

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when I saw the guys that had long-term sobriety

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and I thought, I wanna have long-term sobriety one day.

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I thought they were sober.

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I thought there really is something about being sober

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that these guys had sobriety.

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And when I have a way of any behavior,

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I'm gonna be one that won't have sobriety.

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So I always try to feelings of having sobriety.

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I've always longed for a little bit of value

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without having sobriety.

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I don't know how things are these days.

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It's like coming up on the milestone of 10 years

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where I had that time that I drank was 11 years that I had,

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but I drank again and went out to those bars

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and started chasing after that girl.

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I had 11 years.

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So I'm coming up on 10 years.

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And right now I just learned that

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since I've been doing all this stuff with my friends

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and all these people that are in my path,

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it's like I have this dome

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of the banner of God's love is over me

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with some way that there's a protection and a safety

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of some kind of thing that daily.

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I used to count my days on the calendar.

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I used to count my days.

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And now I count how many days I see

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and how many per day I see of the rosary.

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I count on the calendar.

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Like I said, it's part of the remembrance

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of the back in the Catholic school, the Fatima movement.

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The Fatima was pray daily,

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pray the rosary daily kind of movement.

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So I count all that on my calendar now.

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And it's part of a, we came to scoff,

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but we remained to pray.

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I think it says in the book.

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'Cause I came with that idea that a part of it was like,

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"Ah, the scoff of these guys.

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They're not even believers in God."

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And then it was scuffed.

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And now it's just like, I just come to pray.

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I just pray, just pray that just somehow,

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even if they're not believers in God,

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I could have a friend.

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And somehow the people that are part of that fellowship

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of just at least finding a friend

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and the guy that maybe has less belief in God to me

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is what keeps me kind of like lighted up,

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feeling in life about the program.

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Also, it goes on with everything.

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There's a certain possibility

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that at times turn around,

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that somehow things become,

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going towards the direction

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that I want to achieve my goals.

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Like back when I achieved college,

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that was a time when it was going my way.

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But for a while now,

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it's like I've been suffering

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with trying to get my dental work done

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and they're gonna finally approve.

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And I gotta possibly have all the teeth pulled.

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It's like one guy shared a meeting in Pacific group.

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He had one tooth in his mouth

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and the leader guy of the Pacific group

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would offer him a piece of gum.

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So I saw that I had like,

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what can I do about getting teeth

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and then I got one tooth in my mouth

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that's able to be able to attach a bridge

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or some kind of brace to put the teeth in.

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So they just finally said that

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even though you have those teeth in the body of your mouth,

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they're all rotten, they're not gonna survive.

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They have to pull them.

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So I'm gonna do that and then hope they're the best.

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And I think it will be just a brand new start for me

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after the end of the month comes along

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and times are always better

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'cause at five years of sobriety,

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I got this motor scooter and it helped me get to meetings.

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I was able to start getting to different

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outside of my zone meetings

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and gave me a little freedom

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of getting outside of my zone meetings.

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I got this little motor scooter

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and then I just recently got a second one.

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And it's like four years and nine months of my sobriety,

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I'm getting a new motor scooter.

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So I got the second one now just like two months ago

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and it's really helping out

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'cause I could go to those outside meetings

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and then just meet people.

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And that brings me back to somehow

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I get that feeling when I'm at those new found meetings

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that it's back to that love of the music of AA.

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I hear it at the meeting and I hear it all.

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It's like try to find a friend,

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try to find someone to work the we care,

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we care part of the program with

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is that they have that network of family again in my life.

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So I think that's just about all they have that's there.

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I'm happy to be here and happy to be having

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this resource sponsor and my two other sponsors

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have stuck with me since '94.

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My sponsor is both from the USR,

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all three from the USR group.

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And as is seeming to be sort of place

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where it has worked out for me.

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Seem to be, it's from my hometown.

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That's another thing about the USR group.

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It's right there in my hometown, right across the street

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where I went to grammar school when I was a little kid.

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So it's like really works out the USR group

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for the place that it is 'cause I find it's,

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you don't have to go very far.

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This is to find recovery.

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Okay, thanks for letting me share.

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- How are you doing James?

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- Pretty good, how are you doing Scott?

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- Better.