Eddie's Journey: From Bronx Streets to Seven Years Sober
S26:E19

Eddie's Journey: From Bronx Streets to Seven Years Sober

Episode description

Eddie shares his path from teenage drinking in the Bronx to a spiritual awakening that led him to AA, his struggles with relapse, and the support of his sponsors Arthur B. and Jim C. He talks about building a career as a special‑ed teacher, his marriage to a partner involved in Al‑Anon, and his new role leading a Spanish‑language AA meeting.

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- Oh, I'm sorry.

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- No, you're okay.

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Yeah, you're fine.

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Well, my name is Eddie B, and I am an alcoholic.

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I'm a very grateful recovering alcoholic,

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and I always have to say that there before the grace of God,

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I have a life I love today.

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I really love my life.

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I'm a member of the Pacoima group.

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I've been there since the very, very beginning

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of my sobriety.

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My sobriety date is November 5th, 2012.

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I have a sponsor.

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His name is Arthur Burke.

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He has 40 years.

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My grand sponsor who passed away this past year

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was James Cross, Jim Cross.

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He had 55 years before he passed,

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and I'm so glad for those two men in my life

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because it was them who showed me in human form

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the unconditional love of God.

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We hear about it.

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We read about it.

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We read it.

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Those of you who've gone to church like I have

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as I was younger, we hear about it,

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and but we never really experienced that,

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but I was able to do so and transfer that in my life.

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Anyway, as I said, my name is Eddie,

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and I'm just gonna go quickly on my,

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like a drunk-a-log, started drinking, 12 years old.

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I grew up in New York City in the Bronx

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when it was burning down.

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I was able to go into the bodega.

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I had a choice.

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If I had a dollar, I could buy a joint, right?

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Or I could go to the bodega

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and get a pint of Old English 800

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and five loose cigarettes and have a quarter left over

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to go to the numbers hole, right?

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If anybody knows the numbers,

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it's the illegal lotto of that time in New York City.

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Anyway, what I usually like to say is that

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how many of us here, just kind of like a show of hands,

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you know, you drank every day for at least six months,

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you know, right?

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Or every day for a year, you know?

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Yep, you know, we do those things.

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And it wasn't until I came to AA

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that I found out about the allergy of the body.

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Now I'll kind of fast forward a little bit.

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My drinking took off even in my teen years,

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and there was a part where I said to myself,

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I said, "If God does not intervene, I'm gonna die."

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This is about like at 19 years old.

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You know, I was drinking heavily, I was doing drugs,

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and God intervened.

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I had this spiritual experience

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on a street corner in the Bronx.

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You know, I was cornered by some Jesus people.

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But there was something about what they said

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that just clicked in me 'cause I grew up as a Catholic.

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And man, I had a psychic change.

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That psychic change kept me from not drinking

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for seven years.

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I quit smoking cigarettes, I did all these.

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I was actually at one point studying to be a minister.

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And then after I had gotten my associate's degree

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in biblical studies, I had this divine kind of like,

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you know, idea, and I know it was from God,

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to go to secular school.

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So I went back to school.

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I was working full-time, I was working full-time,

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and I got my double major in psychology and sociology

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with a minor in communications

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and working in Puerto Rican studies.

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I am Puerto Rican, I speak Spanish.

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Oh, a quick plug.

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So I'm just gonna say, the Pacoima Group,

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this past couple of weeks at the business meeting,

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we are going to have a Spanish meeting

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for Spanish speakers.

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So if you know anyone out there who is interested

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in going to a Spanish meeting,

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let them know Friday nights at 7.30,

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we will be having meetings,

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and I will be doing that meeting.

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So back again to my drinking, this is what,

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so here I am seven years sober,

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and I got my sponsor there, his name is Jimmy, right?

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I'm not sure if anybody else decided to show up,

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but it was very simple.

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We were having finals, and one of my friends

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that I was taking a course with, she said,

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"Hey Eddie, we're going out for drinks after finals.

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"Do you wanna come with us?"

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And I said, "Sure, no problem."

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Seven years, what's the harm?

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I did not know about the allergy of the body.

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I really did not.

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And so I had that first drink,

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and then I had another drink, and another drink,

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but I stopped, and I didn't even really drink

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every day after that.

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But after a while, yeah,

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I was back into every day drinking,

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and going to work drunk, and you know,

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here I am, now I graduated college.

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I'm working as a special ed resource room teacher,

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right, in the Bronx, and remember going to the bar,

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and just going back, going to work,

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and teaching these kids hungover, you know?

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So let's kind of fast forward a little bit from there.

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I get married to this,

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to my wife now.

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We had a previous,

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I was married, she was not,

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then I got divorced, but then she got married.

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And so then we found ourselves at this point

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where we were both single at the same time,

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and it was like, you know, "Harry Met Sally,"

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kind of one of those stories.

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And so we got married,

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and she knew about, she knew I drank,

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but it's funny, she has three master's degrees, right?

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And so no matter how smart you are,

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it's like, you know, it's like,

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they're always drawn to that bad boy, right?

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And so now, you know, I'm so glad,

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'cause my wife has her black belt in Al-Anon, right?

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So she, you know, she just knows,

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oh, I'm just gonna let him do his thing,

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and let him find his way.

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And you know, it's funny,

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there was one point in our marriage after I got sober,

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where it was kind of hard, it really was.

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And I would pray, I said, "God, if you don't do something,

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I'm going to, you know, I think I'm gonna get a divorce."

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And then something happened, something snapped.

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About five years into her Al-Anon and five years into mine,

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she just, everything just,

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there was just a sense of peace in our home, you know?

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And that was beautiful.

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But let me go backtrack.

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So now, now I'm drinking again after college,

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I get married, I'm drinking every day,

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or if I'm not drinking every day, maybe weekends,

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but I am hitting it hard when I do.

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If I go to a party, I'm just like banging a whole mess.

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And the crazy thing is that, you know,

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I could stand here and tell you

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that I had this crazy life, but I didn't.

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I never got a DUI.

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I never lost my job over drinking.

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My wife didn't leave me.

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I didn't, you know, lose my home or anything.

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I didn't have any of that bad stuff happen to me.

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You know, I even remember there was one time with my son.

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He might've been two or three years old.

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I hadn't been drinking.

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I'm in the car.

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I'm getting off at Balboa and off the 118.

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And I don't know what it was, but I wasn't aware.

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And then I hit the guy in front of me,

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but it wasn't that bad.

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And he gets out and he was like, "Oh, you know."

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And then he sees my son in the back seat

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who's only like two or three.

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And he was like, "Oh, okay, hey, no problem."

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Let it go, you know.

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I had a lot of those close calls.

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And I think God knew.

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I carried a very heavy sense of shame in my life.

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And if I would have ever gotten arrested for a DUI,

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I probably would have lost it.

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You know, I probably would have put a gun to my head

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just thinking it's the worst thing in the world.

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As you know, we always think something is the worst thing

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in the world until it happens.

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And after a while, it's like, eh, you know, no big deal.

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You know, so anyway, so here I am.

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Now I'm married, my wife is pregnant,

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and we're living in Alhambra.

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Oh, I moved from New York to California

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'cause my wife was already here,

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or my fiance at the time, but I came over here

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'cause it made more sense for me to come over here

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than it was for her to go over to where I was at.

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So yeah, we're married, she's pregnant.

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And I remember that the night that, you know,

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she gave birth to my son, and we were at this club,

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we went to see her sister sing at this club in,

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I wanna say studio city around that area,

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and her water broke.

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At least, you know, so we said, okay, let's go back home.

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So we went back home, and the doula,

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the woman who was training my wife during her pregnancy,

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said, oh, you know, if you want, you know,

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you can have some wine to relax, right?

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So my wife had a glass of wine and knocked out,

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and I polished off the rest of that wine.

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I already had drank at the club.

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Now I'm at the house and I'm drinking again.

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My son was born, you know, I remember him being born,

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but there was that part of me that was like,

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God, you know, I don't wanna do,

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I don't wanna be this kind of a dad.

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I don't wanna be a drunk dad.

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Unfortunately, you know, I continued to drink,

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and I terrorized that boy, 'cause in my mind it was like,

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well, you're not gonna be like me,

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and I was just so hard on him, I really was.

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Anyway, somewhere along the line, I stopped,

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you know, I was teaching here, and then I stopped teaching.

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There was a point, I think, where I went into real estate,

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and then I started, I'm sorry, I went into life insurance,

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and then I started selling real estate,

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and I wasn't that great at it, you know?

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I had some pretty good sales.

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Once a year was like, it was like a big windfall, you know?

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Commercial property or something like that,

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but there was just, you know, I wasn't that good at it,

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and then this guy came to our real estate office,

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and he was from the Tony Robbins thing,

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and he was like, oh, you know, Tony Robbins and my,

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I remember my broker says, well, you know,

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you guys need to get motivated,

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so here I am at this Tony Robbins thing,

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and of course, you know, they make you walk on fire, right?

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So I remember it was funny, 'cause when he said

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we were gonna walk on fire, I was like,

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what, I was like, heck, but then I,

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there was something in my brain that said,

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okay, I need to change, I need something.

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I remember I took my pack of cigarettes

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that was in my pocket, and I threw it up in the fridge,

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I said, you know, yeah, I'm no profanity,

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but you know, guys, I was like, the hell with it,

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you know, I'm gonna do this, and then,

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after that whole week, you know, at Tony Robbins,

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I became the poster child for this is the methods

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we have tried, I did stay sober after that for three years,

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I started reading inspirational books,

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I started going to health farms, you know,

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just getting my body healthy, I trained for a marathon,

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and you know, I remember it was like,

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I was sober for about three years,

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I was training for this marathon,

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and then I remember after the marathon,

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it was kind of, it was a little bit spiritual,

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you know, I would pray a lot when I would run,

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and I remember I crossed the finish line, I said to myself,

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is that it, but then I kind of heard God talk to me,

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and he was like, it's not about the goal, the destination,

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it's about the journey, and I remember that very vividly,

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so here's the irony, a week later, I'm in Hawthorne,

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and I was near this old watering hole that I used to go to,

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and this is how it came into my brain,

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it said, you just finished running a marathon,

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you deserve a drink, and I proceeded to go into that bar

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and polish off three pitchers of beer,

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and then drive back home, and it was off to the races again.

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So now, another three or four years go by,

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I'm still terrorizing my son,

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I'm not doing that well in real estate,

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I'm just, a lot of things are just not working out for me,

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I hadn't done my taxes in like three or four years, right?

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And then I, and here's the thing that really got to me,

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I am somewhat religious, right?

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And so, I'm not religious, but you know,

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there's a spiritual part of me, but I was still drinking,

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and that kind of kept me from going to another level,

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that I know that we all deserve, that sense of progress,

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whether it's spiritually, financially, whatever.

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And so, but I couldn't get it,

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I would go to church with my family, and then,

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this was like every Sunday, and then I would say to my wife,

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I go, I'm gonna walk the dog, and I would get the dog,

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and I'd go straight to the liquor store, right?

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Get a few bottles of wine, and a pack of cigarettes,

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and just drink that while I'm walking my dog,

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or I'll sit on the grassy knoll there.

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And it just came to a point

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where I couldn't do it any longer.

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The two other sobrieties that I had showed me

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that when I don't drink, I'm pretty productive.

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Stuff happens, good things happen, you know,

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but drinking is like the paralyzer of my life,

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and it takes up my time.

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And you know, I remember even working at a youth home,

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at a group home, but I had the night shift,

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so I would get off work, and then I'd walk from,

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this is not Tampa, Corbin.

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I would walk from Corbin and around Devonshire,

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all the way to Granada Hills.

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And in the meantime, stopping off at liquor stores, right?

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Getting a drink, going to my house, and then knocking out,

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or maybe not knocking out, you know?

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The thing that I know that made me an alcoholic

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is it didn't make a difference what I drank,

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whether I drank Top Shelf, Blend Fittich, or Cisco.

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And when I was working at that place, it was like,

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okay, I'm making my stops, and I'm going, you know,

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to liquor stores and getting some wine or whatever,

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but finally it was just like, and I didn't even dress up.

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I mean, I like dressing up now, but it was just like,

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okay, I'm trying to get some sleep,

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but drinking is more important.

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So I would be in like my bathrobe or whatever,

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jump in the car, go to the liquor store, right?

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Get my, you know, get my drink, bring it back to the house,

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you know, pile it down, and just try to get some sleep

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before I went to my next shift, you know,

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at about like 10 o'clock at night.

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And it stayed like that for a while.

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Anyway, that job stopped, and like I said,

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so I would go to church, and then just one Sunday,

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I just said, God, I can't do this anymore.

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This sense of who I wanna be, this sense of, you know,

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hypocrisy, you know, I'm trying to be, you know, a good dad.

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And I just felt so bad 'cause I really, really did

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terrorize my son, you know, up until he was 12 years old.

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Now he's, I stopped drinking just in time

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because he started going to Al-Anon.

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And I remember I took him to the convention.

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I took him to the convention.

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I was only like three months sober

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when I went to the convention.

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And no, not even that, I was like maybe two months.

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But I remember telling him, you know, I'm sorry,

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the reason why I do what I do is because I'm an alcoholic.

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Anyway, let me kind of go back.

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Let me go back to when the day started.

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Again, I prayed and I said, God, I can't do this any longer.

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It was one Sunday morning after church.

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And then the following week,

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I get a call from my brother-in-law.

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And me and him were running buddies.

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I mean, we ran.

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And then he stopped running.

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He found a, hey, I didn't know this, you know.

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But then he tells, you know, he calls me up.

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He says, hey, I'm gonna, I'm gonna be a speaker.

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You know, I'm gonna speak at this meeting

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and I want you to come support me.

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Not that I didn't wanna go 'cause he was my boy, right?

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But it was just like, you know, he says,

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I want you to come support me.

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I have to get back, okay, I'll go.

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You know, for you, anything.

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And he's gonna tell the story.

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And my sponsor, Jimmy, knows this.

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And there was that one point when he said,

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he said, who here is an alcoholic?

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And I didn't raise my hand.

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My son is next to me.

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My wife is there.

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You know, her sister's there.

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We're all here to support my brother-in-law.

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And I didn't raise my hand.

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And then he says, Eddie, you an alcoholic, man.

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Raise your hand, right?

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And so I said, okay, I raised my hand.

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And my son kind of looks at me like, what?

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And I always felt that, you know,

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if this guy can get sober, I can get sober.

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And after the meeting, I asked him, I says,

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what did you do?

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How did you do it?

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And he said, he said, he said, I did a 90 and 90.

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He said, I got a sponsor right away.

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Take the steps and be of service.

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And so that's what I did.

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And I don't know, I don't remember how I found Pacoima.

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I was going to a few meetings,

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but there was this hardcore sense at Pacoima

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that said, I need to make this my home.

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And there was good sobriety there.

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And I remember a girl took a chip there for three months.

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When I got there and I was like, three months?

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I couldn't even fathom that, you know?

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Anyway, I got sober just in time.

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My son eventually got into Berkeley and graduated Berkeley.

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And he's extremely productive.

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He graduated his last semester during COVID.

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But let me say what sobriety does also.

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I got my sponsor, I know he was the match for me.

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I was willing to do anything.

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And I went through this slight depression

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after my second year,

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because when I started to do my amends,

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I started to feel the weight of the hurt

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that I did to people.

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And I went into a depression,

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but I was still dragged myself to meetings.

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And I remember calling everybody up and I'm like,

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I can't, it was just so hard.

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And they were like, Eddie,

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you are exactly where you're supposed to be.

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You know, just keep pressing.

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And I did that.

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It was like a six month depression.

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And I suffered from clinical depression as well.

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And of course, what's the saying about alcoholics?

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You know, we're the only depressed people

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who drink a depressant to forget about our depression.

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So that's what I did for the longest.

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And so, you know, I go on my journey

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and everything starts getting better.

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But initially it was hard.

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My sobriety was hard

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because everything started like breaking down.

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You know, the garage door, my sewer line,

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crap was coming up, my shower.

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It was just, it was just bad.

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And I kept praying and I just said,

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God, I can't focus on this stuff.

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Will you please put a bandaid on it

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until I get this thing called sobriety?

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And I would have guys from U.S.R.

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or whatever that would come up to me and say,

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hey Eddie, can I go check out your garage or whatever?

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He says, I'm not sure if I could do that.

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But then one guy gave me a number

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and then somebody came to my house,

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turns out he was in the program.

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And he was like, look, I'll fix your door

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and I'll let you make payments.

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And then another guy who wanted to help me out

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with my sewer line, he was like, I can't help you.

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But the fact that he even came out meant so much to me.

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You know, I started to feel that the sense of, you know,

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people really cared about my alcoholism.

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And so, you know, I'm going through this process.

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I remember even being at a U.S.R. meeting

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and I think maybe I'm three years sober.

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And I go, and I owed the IRS $60,000, right?

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And I hadn't done my taxes in like six years.

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And so, yeah, don't worry about it.

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I'm just waving this guy off.

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You know, so I hadn't done my taxes like six years.

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And I remember I go to this men's meeting and I go,

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hey fellas, look, man, you know,

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I'm getting this stuff together and everything,

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but you know, I haven't done my taxes in six years.

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The whole room went.

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And I remember one guy says, Eddie,

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you're gonna get in contact with Lloyd.

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He's a tax attorney.

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And you're gonna start doing your taxes

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and get that stuff done.

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And so I proceeded to do, you know,

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every month I would do one year of taxes until I,

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and several months later I finished seven years of taxes.

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Handed that to my tax guy.

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He submits the stuff and lo and behold,

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I don't owe the IRS anything.

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They owed me.

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And they even came after me again later on

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because you know, I had a corporation

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and I hadn't done certain things with that.

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And I owed them the fines and penalties

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was like $7,000 per year, right, on the corporate side.

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So what happens?

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You know, I'm trying to get these letters done.

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And I remember one guy in the Burbank men's group,

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he says, Eddie, there's no problem that you can't solve.

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And hey, if you just throw a little bit of money at it.

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Right?

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So I find a couple of AA tax lawyers, right?

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Who they said one lady was really nice.

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She was out in Beverly Hills.

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She goes, I've been doing this for years.

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Don't worry about it.

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I says, look, can I just check out one more?

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She goes, you can do whatever you want, sweetie.

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Right?

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And so I went with this other person

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and he continued to write the letters

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that I needed to have done

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so that I could get this thing resolved.

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And the first year was,

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'cause the IRS will allow you, right,

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a pass if you have some kind of infirmity

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and alcoholism is an infirmity.

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And so my tax guy, that tax lawyer,

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wrote the letters to say for all of these years,

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he was an alcoholic or something to that extent.

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But you know, then they came back and said,

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okay, you don't owe us anything.

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They wiped out all seven years.

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You know, I get, you know,

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but the thing is I was also willing to pay them.

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I wanna say that because in the big book

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and when we do our steps, it's our willingness.

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And I remember Jesse Loy,

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I'm not sure if you know the famous Loy brothers,

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he was like, ah, Eddie, you know what?

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Just get on that payment plan.

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Just give $50 a month for the rest of your life

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and you'll be good, you know?

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And I was willing to do that.

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But then, like I said, when I took the action to do it,

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it turned out that they owed me.

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And so I never would have done that

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had I not been, had the support of AA.

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Anyway, I'm gonna try to do this real quick.

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When my son went to Berkeley,

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I made up my mind that I wanted to help him out.

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And so I was trying to get a job at Lockheed.

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And 'cause a friend of mine who wasn't alcoholic said,

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Eddie, they're hiring.

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If you got a pulse and a heart,

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you know, a pulse and a decent skill,

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they'll take you 'cause we really need guys.

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So I decided to go to North Valley Occupational Center

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to take a class as to become a machinist.

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So, but then the instructor there,

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we get to the class.

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He says, you know what?

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Don't take this bad, but you could do this work,

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but you're not a machinist.

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He, I go, yeah.

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He goes, you're more like an aircraft maintenance tech.

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I've always wanted, since I was 14 years old,

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to become an aircraft mechanic.

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And I just got terminated from my job

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as an aircraft mechanic yesterday.

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And, but that's another story.

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But I went to school for aircraft maintenance engineer.

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And I remember I had a windfall on my taxes

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that was so big that I was able to pay my son's Berkeley

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bill for the next couple of years.

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And my wife said, you know what?

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You go to school, I got the rest.

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So I went full time to school and I eventually,

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during COVID was when I finally took my last exam

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for, to become an airframe and power plant,

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FAA certified aircraft mechanic.

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And I worked up in Portland for a little while.

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And then I wound up in LAX with Qantas.

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And the reason why God wanted me there was so that I could,

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I started a union.

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I started the union, union representation

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for the workers at my job.

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And 'cause I saw how they were being treated.

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And these guys went out of their way to take care of me.

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And I don't know what it was that God just said,

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you know what?

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You need to take care of them.

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And I did.

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And even though I had this big target on my back

24:11

that culminated, I'm still in union negotiations

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with the company, but you know,

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they finally came up with some little nonsense

24:18

to try and release me.

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And after like two years that we'd been working

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on this contract that I've been working with the company

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for four and a half, you know, it was funny.

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They handed me that termination letter yesterday

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and they said, we're terminating you.

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And I just had this sense of calm that came over me.

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I was worried.

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I was off from work for almost a month.

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They paid me for a month without, you know,

24:37

while they investigated or made up their story.

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And, but I don't have any hard feelings.

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And I, you know, I'm at this place where now I'm,

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now everything is opening up in terms of the next chapter.

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And I can't do this.

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You know, God is definitely doing for me

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what I could not do for myself.

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That's, I know that, you know.

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And even though I was a little worried

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when this whole investigation came,

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by the time it came to that place where, you know,

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they told me here's the termination letter,

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I said, you know what, I'm good.

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The next chapter is about to begin.

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And that's where I'm at.

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I could talk about it.

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And you know, it's funny.

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You know, my sponsor said, you know, this morning

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I went to see him.

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He was like, are you okay?

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I was like, you know, I didn't sleep last night.

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And I didn't, but also when I got up this morning,

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everything felt like it's gonna be okay.

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The plan is there.

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This is what you're gonna do.

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This is what you're gonna do.

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This is what you're gonna do.

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And now you have the time off to do it.

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And I said, yes, let's go God.

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Next chapter.

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Thank you very much for letting me share.

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I appreciate it.

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I know I got one minute nap.

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I'm good.